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>mfw liberals swear by politifact
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>>59822651
>black male teen unemployment at 51%
>implying this is due to whitey and not because they are getting all their gibsmedats and dont need to work
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hehhehehe
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>>59822531
Well legally they are not...
>>59822806
I don't understand.. How is politifact wrong here?
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>>59822806
>There's a thing called free will

But Black people commit crime because of economic factors and desperation, not free will
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>>59823591
Well played
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Politicuck has a liberal bias, who could've guessed.
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>>59822531
>politi""fact""
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>>59823033
Why are niggers so entitled America? How is the black unemployment issue the white man's fault?
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Some liberals really hate politifact. Look up some of Rachel Maddow's rants about how incompetent they are.
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>>59823591
Gg no re
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>>59823588
>Well legally they are not...
That's circular logic. Ted is arguing from a realistic stance. Boys aren't girls just because they say they are. The law is wrong.
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>>59823802
But that was an objective fact.
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>>59823588
In the 60s the Cubans put all there murders and rapist on a boat and sent them to America. England did the same thing in the 1500s and Mexico is doing it now
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>>59823730

nice flag
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Would they have been as generous as if this was Trump?
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>>59823588

>legally they are not

about as NOT as you can legislate the value of PI
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>>59822531
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>>59823912
We sent to Australia.
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>>59823883
Well as soon as the law is changed then he will be correct.
>>59823912
I don't believe you
>>59824001
I don't understand why it should be rated lower. I personally would have put it at mostly true, since the only thing under question is what he implied by all time
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>He’s accurate if we look at the number of votes missed this year out of the five current senators running for president. Rubio has missed about a third of all votes.

>If we look at career truancy records, Rubio is a close second to Ted Cruz among the current field.

>trump mentions his voting records
>they give him a mostly true statement because of his attendance was second
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>>59822651
Trump's number is almost 10x higher, Sanders is off by like 7%
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>>59824507
Well second worst =/= worst. That cannot be "true" by definition
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>>59824626
Context is important, Trump is referring to the number of people not employed, which is different from unemployment which only counts people who are actively seeking jobs. It should be marked as mostly true, but they conveniently ignored context.
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>>59824744
But Trump mentioned voting record, not whether he showed up or not. That is irrelevant,
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>>59824744
Exactly how retarded are you?
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>no data
>half true
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Overall, experts say and the data shows that the United States has taken two steps forward and one step back, but hasn’t quite reverted to pre-Civil Rights levels of segregation.

>just plain wrong
>give her a mostly true rating
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>>59823777
Typically I've noticed those kinds of criticism come about when fact check sites aren't "fair enough" to the lying Democrat.
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>>59824472
>Well as soon as the law is changed then he will be correct.
No, no. Again, that's circular logic. You're thinking like a retard. Perhaps all of this is going over your head?

Ted is arguing against the law. Saying that the law thinks boys are girls just because they say they are and that is wrong.

There is no basis in using the law as defense when somebody is saying that the law is wrong.
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>>59822531
I just finished Cruz's book and he spends four pages railing on Politifact and talking about how they make their opinions "fact" and anyone who disagrees with them liars.
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>>59824472
>Well as soon as the law is changed then he will be correct.

>objective truth is as defined by law
Disgusting.

>I don't understand why it should be rated lower. I personally would have put it at mostly true, since the only thing under question is what he implied by all time

>well, if we simply redefine the context Sanders attempted to frame his wrong statement by, then what he said was technically accurate
Absolutely disgusting. Dead Kulaks in your future.
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>>59825894
*****

Many upvotes.
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According to politifact, Hillary is the most truthful politician.
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>>59826198
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>>59822531

Holy shit thank you for exposing politifact. I thought they were good. Are there any other alternatives to politifact? You're doing God's work anon.
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>>59823890
And they have to ease that fact to their users by reminding them that he's not a "gun nut." It doesn't even attempt to hide bias.
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>>59826603
there are no good fact-checking sites since everyone has a dog in the fight
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>>59824472
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariel_boatlift

It was a real thing. The precedent exists.
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>>59824626
lmao
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>>59823730
That's the real question senpai. It is in no way the average white man's fault that a young black men can't get jobs
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>>59822531
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>>59823588
>How is politifact wrong here
the cartel is responsible for a large number of smuggled people going to the US, the government can't and won't stop them so basically we're playing minesweeper with the illegals coming in
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>>59826198
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>>59828272

Youre arguing with a marxist, his argument was "I dont believe you" that should have been your tipoff that hes not interested in the truth, only furthering his political agenda while avoiding real discussion of facts.
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>>59824748
>Trump is referring to the number of people not employed, which is different from unemployment which only counts people who are actively seeking jobs
desu i dont know why unemployment isn't referred to as the number of adults with a job because with the latter you can manipulate it how you liike
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>>59828849
Omfg I hate my country

>pic related
>females
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>>59828849
Pffftftft
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>>59828849
goddamn does this piss me off. The fucking UN statistics clearly state that 75% of fugees are young able-bodied men. 12.5% female, 12.5% kids.

Do they even cite anything? Someone should set up a politifact-fact-checker
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>>59822531
>LaPierre said "(Obama) endorsed a total ban on the manufacture, sale and possession of all handguns." Obama’s 1996 campaign for state Senate did endorse a state-level ban, on a questionnaire from which he has since distanced himself.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/feb/13/wayne-lapierre/nra-leader-says-barack-obama-endorsed-total-ban-ha/
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>>59828952
>pants on fiya ma niggaz
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>all these nonexistent sources
is this site a joke?
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>>59828849
lol
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>>59822651

lol what a shit fucking site. Propaganda is legal in Amerilard "freedom" land.

At least here we have an excuse.
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>>59828849
This is false though. The majority of refugees were young, able-bodied men looking for gibsmedats.

>>59826198
Hillary's learned the art of the technical truth from Bill. She's knows how to slither out of hard questions by technicalities.
>It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is.
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>>59824626
You actually think that unemployment is under 10%?
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>>59829212
They do their own research to get the statistics.
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>>59823588
>I don't understand.. How is politifact wrong here?

>the Guide For The Mexican Migrant

nice hitler dubs
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>>59828849
Don't know about other things but this one is seriously rage inducing. What are they really trying to achieve?
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>>59829439

I mean, it was. You can say it was about state rights, but it was specifically about the states' right to practice slavery.

Obviously that doesn't mean that everyone involved was pro or anti slavery on their respective sides, but that was the major contributing factor to the conflict.
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>>59829439

That guy is the co-founder of Vice btw, he isnt our ally.
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>>59828849
>media reports refugees are 70% male
>NOPENOPENOPENOPEUHUHNOPENOTGONNACREDITITNOOOOO
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>>59829576
Most refugees destined to the US are female/children apparently. Different for Europe
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>>59829635
>Most refugees destined to the US are female/children apparently. Different for Europe

Well obviously, there's a fucking ocean in the way. The only refugees reaching the US are ones the state brings there.
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>>59829593
>but it was specifically about the states' right to practice slavery.
No it wasn't
Slavery was still legal in the union
The South wasnt fighting for the right to keep slaves in the Union
It was about preserving the Union
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And the best part of the whole fucking shitshow is how they openly admitted to only listing statements 'that they thought were important' or whatever. So they list all the lies for people they don't like and none of the lies for the people they do like.

Fucking faggots
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>>59823802
>>59822651
>>59822806
>>59822531
>>59824001
>>59824990
>>59825204
don't believe any of these are real

>>59828849
FAAAAAAAAAAAKE
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What would the issue be for little boys and little girls to shower together? it's not like they're fucking and who cares if their genitals are different.

If they can handle communal showers with boys, why not with girls?
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>>59825204
How in the living fuck is this mostly true?
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>>59829362

She's just a straight up flip flopping liar.

I believe marriage has and will be between a man and a woman
>EVERYBODY SHOULD GET GAY MARRIED

I'm for single payer healthcare
>OBAMACARE, I'M PAID OFF BY EVERY LARGE MEDICAL BUSINESS IN THE COUNTRY

We should deport illegals and make them get back in line , Bill Clinton deported 12 Million, that's 1 Million less than what Donald Trump wants to deport
>Amnesty for all
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>>59829697
Also if they dont like you they will start checking hyperbole as fact
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>>59829723
Go to the site you stupid fuck
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>>59829697

That doesn't actually mean anything though..

It doesn't make this article any less true. What you're saying is ridiculous, it is literally 'yeah, can't argue, he's lying but why do you have to point it out!?!?"

kek
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>>59823802
>they're calling their own statements "mostly true" just for the sake of Colonel Sanders
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>>59829097
They're citing this page to show that majority of the refugees are female although it doesn't take into account any of the refugees in Europe.
http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php
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>>59829807
what the fuck are you talking about?
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I've thought about starting something similar to politifact, but with pure objectivity with sources for each claim. But there's so much shit to fact check because of 24-hour news cycles, and Twitter, and all that shit, so I don't think I could man it myself.
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>>59829771
no, feed me links
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>>59829067
> ignoring the women
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>>59829593
No it wasn't about slavery. The South had no right to secede from the Union because it is illegal for any states to secede at all. Jefferson Davis tried to take their claim of secession to court so he could be tried as a traitor so long as he got to argue his case for why the South should be able to secede. They denied him that and then kept their soldiers at Fort Sumter which was in South Carolina which had seceded. They tried to resupply the Fort and that's when it escalated to conflict.
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>>59830005
all 3 of them
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>>59829593
That must have been why there were fist fights amongst Congressmen while in session over the tariffs levied on the South and secessionist movements going back to the 1820s and 30s before abolitionism was even on the table.
That must be why the south refused to ratify the corwin amendment which would have made it illegal for the Federal government to interfere with state level slavery.
That must be why lead started flying only AFTER Lincoln placed a naval blockade agaisnt his own nation to enforce tariffs all but one Southern Congressman voted against but still passed due to the massive population difference in favor of the north.
Documentary related
http://www.ancreport.com/documentary/tariffs-the-road-to-civil-war/
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Anyone have any links showing politic act as false? I want to piss of leftards
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>>59829609
he got eich'd before eich did. they ran him out of his own company.
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>>59830005
There aren't exactly a lot.
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>>59830029
> The South had no right to secede from the Union because it is illegal for any states to secede at all.

This is wrong though. Nowhere in the constitution does it say that states cannot secede, and as per the 10th amendment, states therefore have the right to secede.
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SANDERS ON SUICICE WATCH BY POLIBIAS


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/dec/22/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-says-bernie-sanders-voted-get-rid-/
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>>59823730
black men dont get government money like welfare idk where this meme came from

single men dont get welfare,
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>>59824389

In the 1500's?
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>>59828849
The writers can't even into grammar
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>>59828849
just nuke my shit up
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>>59830193
Article 1 Section 10

>No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul of the Congress.

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

Article IV Section 3

>New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

10th Amendment

>The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

That doesn't sound like it gives the states the right to secede at all.
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>>59829439
>>59829593
>>59830052
>>59830029

The Civil War was completely about slavery.

However, and this is most crucial and most misunderstood part, THE NORTH APPOSED SLAVERY BECAUSE THEY DID NOT WANT BLACK PEOPLE IN THEIR SOCIETY.

The idea that Northerners were progressive and color-blind and basically modern day liberals is the worst myth to have ever disgraced our republic. The North wished to end slavery not out of some "compassionate" view that the slaves were poor oppressed people, but that they would never integrate into society and that they would bring strafe and disorder into their homogeneous, all white society. Northern states such as Ohio and Michigan had constitutions that in one sentence banned slavery, and in the next banned all Negros from permanent residency.

Basically, the Civil War was white people fighting other white people over the future of white people in America.

And It is the greatest irony that the much vilified South was a beacon of multiculturalism (abert with the whites at the top of the hierarchy) while the "virtuous" North was literally a solid ethno-state of mostly Northern Europeans.

Also, here are some quotes from "liberal" icon, Abe Lincoln:

>I have no purpose directly or indirectly to interfere with the institution of slavery in the states where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.
>Our republican system was meant for a homogeneous people. As long as blacks continue to live with the whites they constitute a threat to the national life. Family life may also collapse and the increase of mixed breed bastards may some day challenge the supremacy of the white man.
>In the language of Mr. Jefferson, uttered many years ago, "It is still in our power to direct the process of emancipation, and deportation, peaceably, and in such slow degrees, as that the evil will wear off insensibly; and in their places be, pari passu [on an equal basis], filled up by free white laborers."
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>>59830649
not him but I'll take a crack at explaining. nowhere in the constitution is it ever mentioned that a sate CAN'T leave the union, and nowhere is it mentioned that the federal government has authority or a state leaving. therefore the state and or people are the ones with authority over the decision to leave the union
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>>59829919
It's really very simple. Take a statement in the news and do basic research, cite a few sources, voilà
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>>59829609
You're fucking retarded.
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>>59830924
Yes but it mentions that states cannot do all those things listed in the articles, by becoming their own country they broke those listed powers in the articles which are not protected by the 10th amendment because the 10th amendment is for powers that are not listed. Although secession is not listed all those other things are which are broken when it comes to secession.

You guys do realize that it was a whole big deal about the US becoming a country in the first place with the states because the states were so worried about giving up so many rights you know? And like I said, Jefferson Davis was going to go argue for being able to secede like you twats are trying to do but it never got that far because the North didn't let him.

>>59830891
>The Civil War was completely about slavery.
>now let me list off reasons that aren't completely slavery and quotes from Lincoln about how it isn't about slavery

lol wut
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>>59824748
Except many of those aren't working by choice. Trump is just pulling numbers out of his hat
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>>59830891
>source: my ass
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>>59829525
Calais isn't the same as Syria, anon.
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>>59830891
Multiculturalism =/= slavery
How retarded are you exactly?
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>load up politifact page
>start editing the HTML to make some OC including Chris Christie "I've lost weight" Mostly True "Said aboard International Space Station."
>delete the wrong HTML element and all my work vanishes instantly
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Politifact is run by my local newspaper, the Tampa Bay Times

It's extremely liberal biased, plenty of articles about how guns are bad and niggers need more help in school
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>>59829593
The civil war was about secession.

The south seceded because of slavery.
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>>59831236
>now let me list off reasons that aren't completely slavery and quotes from Lincoln about how it isn't about slavery

Did you even read my post?

Northerners did not like niggers. Thus they did like slavery since it would have brought niggers to their states.

The quotes from Lincoln show that he wanted, like most Northerners, to deport their asses back to Africa before they, quote-on-quote: "constitute a threat to the national life... Family life may also collapse and the increase of mixed breed bastards may some day challenge the supremacy of the white man."

If you have ever been to Baltimore or Philadelphia lately you would see that Lincoln was right.

>>59831551
>Multiculturalism =/= slavery

Southern society was a complex hierarchy of many different races and cultures that were lived along side one another: Rich Whites (mainly brits), Poor Whites (mainly Irish, Scots), Mulattoes, Free Blacks, Enslaved Blacks, and some Hispanics and Indians, mostly concentrated in Texas and Oklahoma (yes there were Indians in the confederacy that owned slaves).

Just because there is clearly one racial group on top, does not mean that a society is not multicultural in the sense that different races and cultures exist in the same area under the same government.
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>>59831705
It's run by the tbt? Yea, they're closet libs, try their hardest to be impartial, and completely oblivious to how hard they fail on that.
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>>59832235
>I have no purpose directly or indirectly to interfere with the institution of slavery in the states where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so

Literally saying he has no right to outlaw slavery in the Southern states. Lincoln wanting to ship blacks back to Africa =/= it being about slavery. Are you even reading your own shit?
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>>59832603
>In the language of Mr. Jefferson, uttered many years ago, "It is still in our power to direct the process of emancipation, and deportation, peaceably, and in such slow degrees, as that the evil will wear off insensibly; and in their places be, pari passu [on an equal basis], filled up by free white laborers.

Lincoln wanted to free slaves so he could ship them back to Africa and put real white americans back to work To Make America Great Again.

>Literally saying he has no right to outlaw slavery in the Southern states

It's called realpolitik you fucking double nigger.
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>>59823710
My ultra liberal brother swears by
> Snopes ( married googling couple) funded by Soros
> Can liberals be any more biased?
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>>59823730
It's just another form of white burden.
We need to invent bullshit like "white privilege" to distract from Black Failure because to even name the problem requires admitting some inconvenient truths.
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>>59832893

You're a fucking retard if you think the Civil War started because of slavery. You're a delusional piece of shit so I'm done wasting time on you when you won't even read. The South seceded because they wanted slavery. The War started because the North wouldn't allow them to secede. If you think Lincoln had all the power of starting the war just to ship slaves back you're a fucking dumbass that cannot be helped.
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>>59822651
>implying Trump is wrong

Participation rates have been steadily declining.
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>>59829212
Stupid people believe it because it has the word FACT in it.

>But it's a fact! We wuz kings n queens!
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>>59829609

Vice was good for its first year or two(when he was there).
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>>59829067

It's like those fucking puzzle books you used to be able to order in the mail
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>>59831705

RIP Tampa Tribune. The counter to the(then) St. Pete times.
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>>59833245
Oh my fucking god.

You dumb motherfucker.

IF THE SOUTH SECEDING OVER SLAVERY CAUSED THE NORTH TO GO TO WAR THEN THE FUCKING WAR STARTED OVER SLAVERY!

I only said that LINCOLN wished to follow the advice of Jefferson, who advocated freeing the slaves and sending them back to Africa IF it could be done. That was not a casus belli for war with the south, and I never claimed it as such. Your reading comprehension skills are fucking terrible.
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>>59828849
hooooooooly shit
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>IF THE SOUTH SECEDING OVER SLAVERY CAUSED THE NORTH TO GO TO WAR THEN THE FUCKING WAR STARTED OVER SLAVERY

Jesus fucking Christ. SECESSION WAS ABOUT SLAVERY THE WAR WAS ABOUT SECESSION THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT WAS ABOUT SLAVERY YOU FUCKING NIGGER LOVER!

The war could have possibly never happened if Jefferson was allowed to argue for secession and if the North would have just given up Fort Sumter (which was in the Confederacy). You are so fucking stupid it is unbelievable.
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>>59822651
Bernie and Don are both right. Unemployment is high and growing, just masked by the way it's measured. We have the same problem in Australia. People are rejected enough times and they give up looking for work, which then means the government counts them as "not in the labour force" rather than "unemployed" - even though they would almost certainly accept a job if offered one today.

I suspect the website is just being harsher on Trump because he's a racist sexist shitlord etc. He's not my preferred candidate but he's more or less correct here and that should be acknowledged.
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>>59822651
there no way that 20% of america does not have a job, trump is high as fuck
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>>59834416
>children
>elderly
>stay at home parents
>those who choose not to work
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>>59834416

11% are looking for work and don't have it

Unemployment doesn't include those who have stopped looking, such as stay at home mothers and hopeless workers or whatever the BLS calls them now

20% is completely reasonable and probably low
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>>59834416
If you decide to just count whoever you like I'm sure it would be well over that. Like students in school who don't work, stay at home moms, niggers on welfare, people with disabilities, fat lazy people, retards, and all those then I'm sure its easily over 20% but that is a lot of shit because those people aren't trying to work.
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>>59834525
>children count toward unemployment
>retirees count towards unemployment

>>59834579
11% is more reasonable but if thats true then youse have a serious problem
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>>59834416
At least 20% of people of working age (18-65) don't have a job, probably even more.
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>>59834038
The South would never have seceded if they thought that the current system wasn't hostile to slavery. Lincoln ran on a platform that, rhetoric aside, was very much anti-slavery. It's not a consequence that the first state seceded six weeks after he won the election by a wide margin.

>The war could have possibly never happened if Jefferson was allowed to argue for secession and if the North would have just given up Fort Sumter

You are a dense motherfucker if you believe that one of the most powerful countries in the world at the time would simple allow half of it's territory and the source of largest industry (textile production) to disappear. As soon as secession happened there was going to be war, no matter if Jefferson said it perfectly legal and had secession listed in the Constitution. Nation-states as a whole simply WILL NOT tolerant such loss of prestige, taxes, soft power, and power projection, especially when the Confederacy was so hopelessly outnumbered, outgunned, and outproduced by the North.

And Fort Sumner is meaningless. If the North had given up Fort Sumner, then it would have been another fort or another piece of land or a straight up invasion. To argue that giving up Fort Sumner would have avoided the Civil War is the same as saying that Poland giving up Danzig in 1938 would have avoided WW2.
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>>59835208
Oh wow look at you now, arguing for reasons that aren't actually slavery again while claiming that the actual war started because of it. You definitely won that argument :^)
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>>59829593
No it wasn't you stupid fucks. It was more about federalism. The slavery may have been the issue that pushed it over the top but the south was more worried that the founding father's idea of federalism was being overthrown. Please learn your history.
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>>59834934
>this_number% is more reasonable
Was about to engage, but then I glanced at the flag.
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>>59835375
>>59835455

I'm so fucking done. Fuck Revisionists.

The war was simple:
North elects anti-slavery party. South secedes because of election. North fights South because of secession. North wins, North frees slaves. North & South still hates niggers though, keeps them segregated for next hundred years.

That's it. Literally guys, stop coming up with bullshit to glorify either the Confederacy or the Union. It's a complete disservice to history.

(Oh and btw The Confederate Constitution made no mention of legalizing secession and when a amendment was proposed to allow confederate states to secede legally it was defeated in the legislature with a general consensus of being a quote-on-quote: "dangerous idea".)
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