Could you ever love a machine? Now matter how complex it becomes,

>>41382102
>Now matter how complex it becomes, it will never have true emotions

Just like women then :^)

>>41382102
In the bible it says that god gave us dominion over the earth. We are to exist to work the land.

god did not task us to create something to pass over the dominion, to.

So we shall not by virtue of humanity, create our own nullification.

I think you fail to realize what technology is potentially capable of, probably even within our lifetime.

>>41382102
>Now matter how complex it becomes, it will never have true emotions.
>Just programmed algorithms.

Your brain is a biological computer, programmed by your personal environment and heredity.

That's like saying we can't love animals because they don't possess "true emotions" like us sentient humans.

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I think I could love a machine more.

Love? No.

I could still fuck it, be best friends and hang out with it all day though.

Not the ugly ass one in Ops pic. You fall to understand how simple love is though

>>41382102

I could love it better if it didn't try to ape humans.

>odds of a woman stabbing you in the back, robbing you, and getting you thrown in jail
>quite high
>odds of your fembot doing any of that
>marginally low

Yes, I could love a machine.

>american image board
>captcha is pictures of food
kek

>>41382102
Nope, but that doesn't mean I could never feel compassion nor sympathy for one.

>>41382726
She looks better when fully assembled.

>>41382102
fuck yes i could love a machine

i love my pc

and i love 4chan along with all you faggots and robots more then i could ever love a 3d piggu disgusting


so what if my new master race sexbot doesn't have "TRUE" emotions, if it's programmed to "love" me and "care" for me when I need it too, I'll love it right the fuck back provided it's AI is good and complex enough

hopefully that will happen in my lifetime

sexbot master race unite

>>41382726
have you seen any of the shit /co/, /a/, and /d/ are into?

when master race sexbot is finally a thing, you can have anything your little nazi heart desires

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>Now matter how complex it becomes, it will never have true emotions.

>Just programmed algorithms.

Or will they? The next step in A.I. isn't just better pre-programmed instructions calling to a database, but brain emulation using complex CS to simulate everything in the mind down to the molecular level.

http://www.kurzweilai.net/henry-markram-simulating-the-brain-next-decisive-years

If Moore's law holds up it may be possible for us to have functioning emulated minds at the desktop level by 2040.

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>>41382349
The Bible also says a guy named Moses freed slaves in Egypt that never actually existed..

Because he was made up wholecloth so based Greeks would take them and their kikery seriously.

Do androids dream of electric sheep?

>>41382767

100% agree.

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>>41382963
Holy fuck my ID
>OJFBosep
>Broseph

>>41382102
>Just programmed algorithms.
>implying our emotions aren't just biochemically programmed algorithms

People love animals, cars, themselves, religion, types of food. You aren't making a big leap to loving something of no reproductive value

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>>41382102
>Now matter how complex it becomes, it will never have true emotions.
>Just programmed algorithms.

If it just has access to programmed algorithms you're really not talking about a "no matter how complex machines get" situation.

Emotions are programmed information in humans anyway. They're beneficial because they motivate our lives and they enable us to work together with one another.

I mean I can love a cat or a dog, and that isn't human. I'd be devastated if something happened to my cat.

If you're talking about romantic love then you're silly for thinking people couldn't have romantic love with a machine, there are subsets of people who are in love with their waifus or their real dolls or a porn-star, sometimes even completely imaginary lovers. Human sexuality is really complex and all-encompassing, robosexuality will be no different.

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>>41382922
Actually, there is evidence of the events of Exodus and after in the areas that are mentioned.

Pic related, it's a drawing of a calf near Mt. Sinai, where the Bible says the Jews created a golden calf.

>>41382922
Lol, like you're fucking gay picture is gonna convince him. Nice try though...not.

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I was born too late to explore the Earth.
I was born too early to explore the stars.
...but goddamn I was born at just the right time to stick my dick in a robot.

We've already got sex dolls that look pretty goddamn convincing, and the Japs are already perfecting the walking, talking robots that'll be rolling out into households in the next few decades, if not sooner optimistically (As long as we don't have a fucking nuclear war before then. Fucking israel.)
Its no longer a question of 'if' its coming, but 'when'.

Till then.. i'll be fapping the hell out of the virtual girls that inevitably be created when the VR tech (Oculus, Morpheus, whoever else) finally starts coming out later this year.

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>>41382596
Whats interesting is in theory, that you could have bioengineering, meaning combining flesh and metal even in a smaller sense.


That the same biochemicals that we call emotions somehow could be synthesised and make robots have those biochemicals from stem cells for example.


It wouldnt be human, that said there are several things that look human now that are not human(no im not talking about some Lizard nonsense or aliens) im talking about psychopaths which in the LITERAL sense are not human.

Looking like a human does not make one human, having human evolutionary traits for long term survival like one in the social sense ASWELL is important factor, like empathy and compassion is neccesary to build a longterm society so it wont be like a mafia society.

Thats what the majority of humans are, thats why psychopaths are what others have called, a interspecies predator.

Think of them like certain Girls are a interspecies gender predator who lack honor and responsibility, who cling only to power of a man because they know they cant get power on their own.

That being said, you still dominate a women just to attract her since us does desire female comfort and sexuality.

>>41383348
>I was born too late to explore the Earth.
I was born too early to explore the stars.
...but goddamn I was born at just the right time to stick my dick in a robot.

i am so saving this

>>41383176
Did Yahweh also plague the Egyptians with mass amnesia?

Most Jews had sense enough to avoid fuckhuge triangles, and Egyptian records of slaves/labor forces are one big middle finger to Exodus.

>>41382102
>Just programmed algorithms.

Except that's all humans. Love is literally a chemical reaction designed to make us reproduce and pair up to ensure our offspring are successful.

With that said I will definitely buy a fembot or whatever they're called if I have access to program it at a low level.

>>41382102
if that machine was made of the same material as human brains and functioned the similarly would you say the same thing?

>>41383690
This guy gets it.

At the end of the day we are made up of matter in the physical realm and all physics can be simulated in some form if the computing power is sufficient.

I mean I loved my stuffed penguin when I was younger. I felt a connection to it.

>>41382102

We're biological machines... sad as it is we live in a mechanical universe, there is no magic, souls or shit like that.

Love is also an algorythm in our brains, there is no difference.
Watch some cyberpunk movies, read novels, thats one of the major themes of the genre.

>>41382102
I could love a machine more than a human, Especially if that machine had pseudo emotions.

>>41382102
>Now matter how complex it becomes, it will never have true emotions.
why would you want it to? true emotions means it will probably have feelings, which also will mean it will have opinions and thoughts and then it will be able to make its own decisions, which eliminates the point of a robot wife

I don't think I could ever love something that wouldn't love me back.

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>>41382102
I want to marry a fox. Is that so wrong?

I could see myself loving a machine but only if I knew it wasn't explicitly programmed to love me, but it came to love me via emergence. In other words, I would be ok if it were programmed with many simple rules, none of them being to love me, but the result of all those rules interacting lead to loving me.

>>41384948
>I want to marry a fox. Is that so wrong?
What the hell, so long as you don't have a parade about it.

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>>41384948
Gays can already marry in certain states.
Children can undergo hormone therapy and sex changes. Age of consent keeps dropping.
Beastiality won't be far behind once the sexual deviancy spreads far enough.

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>>41384948
You can fuck a fox in Hawaii, Kentucky, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, Ohio, Texas, Vermont, West Virginia and Wyoming without going to prison.

The law and fines vary in all the other states. Its like none of them are really sure what the fuck to do with someone who likes fucking animals.

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>>41384948
Well, I would fuck an alien or a robot.

Or a pic related.

Go ahead man. You fox fucker, you.

>>41382102
yeah, a robot could never become as special and complex as a human because we are a unique divine being created by Yahweh :^)

>>41384948
>fox aussie
Oh you again.

>>41382102
>Now matter how complex it becomes, it will never have true emotions.
>Just programmed algorithms.
So, just like a real woman?

>love a machine?
No.
>Fuck a machine?
BTDT.

Does this question include emotionless, nympho cumdumpsters? If it does, big thanks to Catherine. I owe her daddy and big brother each a fifth

Convince me your emotions are any more real than that of a sufficiently advanced AI.

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>>41385569
I'm glad you're so accepting of my desires. I like you all.

>>41382102
>Now matter how complex it becomes, it will never have true emotions.
>Just programmed algorithms.

You don't understand neural nets. With them, machines can do anything humans can, including having true emotions.

>>41383560
He didn't. Jews lived in the city of Avaris (kek) and were actually the RULERS of Egypt for a time until everyone else got tired of their kikery and kicked them out. They just made up the part about being slaves to make people sympathize with them so they would take them in then they could stab them in the back easier.

>>41385318
>Age of consent keeps dropping.
What planet are you living on?

>>41382596
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>>41383058
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>>41384581
I dont know if you are familiarized with the IA field. I got graduated with honors in that field, which implies knowledge of the human brain ( I let you know this because I dont want you to think you are talking with some idiot writing random things, I dont consider myself specially intelligent or anything of that).

There are things about our brain which we didnt discover yet. What we know is a set of patterns which can trigger chemical reactions, but you all seem to imply more with your posts. You imply that all we do or think is biologically programmed, and we dont know that yet.

In fact, there is a huge problem if we only consider deterministic processes: How a deterministic process can give a random result, and there are a lot of investigations around that concept.

Now I tell you my personal opinion: There are amazing properties of matter which we didnt discover yet. Those properties are the ultimate cause of the human consciousness and the origins of our "ego".

I am pretty excited with the theories of Penrose and Hameroff, which in some way point in that direction. I recomend you read about them if you are really interested in this. Its pretty amazing.

Talking about the machines, a machine will never think or have "intelligent", at least not with silicon transistor tecnology. Search for the chinese room experiment.

I hope you find my post interesting.

Sure, your mum is a machine in the sack.

>>41389056
>>41389290

What we really should be Looking at is consciousness. I believe we can already simulate or recreate very small parts of animals brains with technology, yet they have none of the understanding or awareness humanity does. What we should be focusing on, is where consciousness comes from, if it really is a product of our brains, or if there is some other forces at play. If we can replicate this, then we may be able to develop fully thinking, understanding, feeling robots. Until then, in my mind, they will be just like animals, reacting to input and learning to adapt to situations, but never fully becoming aware. Just my 2c though. I could be retarded.

in a sense emotions are analogue to algorithms.
"In mathematics and computer science, an algorithm (Listeni/ˈælɡərJðəm/ al-gə-ri-dhəm) is a self-contained step-by-step set of operations to be performed. Algorithms exist that perform calculation, data processing, and automated reasoning" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithm).

When someone confronts you in a derisive manner you tell yourself to get angry. When someone (sincerely) flatters you you tell yourself to relax. When someone flirts with you you follow another set of steps.

Rational actions and subconscious processes only differ in the speed of processing.

So yes, given enough enough man hours to polish the AI you could have one waifu bot that is exactly as annoying and i'rrational' as your current 3dpd GF (with the advantage that you can mute one of them without resorting to violence)

>>41382102
>Could you ever love a machine?
I already do

>Now matter how complex it becomes, it will never have true emotions.
No matter how many neurons a mammal can have, it will never have true _______.

>>41382102
Our emotions are also the result of incredibly complex chemical reactions. I don't see why a code analogue shouldn't be possible

>>41390740
monkey see monkey do.
That's the base of our most primordial education and how we 'build' our personality. We are fed information and we sort the parameters that we ellect to follow and have the inate capacity to do so (you can't behave as a bully being a skimpy little shit.. not for long anyways). Your mannerism such as the way you walk/move, your accent and your speech, even your general vocabulary (and occasional use of slangs and idiomatic expressions)

>>41390847
and that is the very basic method for a self learning AI.

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>>41382102
silly sheboi, we're all machines *tips fedora*

>>41389290
>How a deterministic process can give a random result
quatuum?
i mean, dendrites are really small, and they deal with electric pulses

>>41382102
and what are true emotions? magic?

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Love is the anticipation of learning

just as Fear is the anticipation of pain

the reason you think you could never love a machine is because you assume you or someone else would understand how it works down to its every circuit.

Consider whether you could love a machine if you didn't know it was a machine.

>>41390998
>tfw robot
I'll just... g-go back to /r9k/ n-now.

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> Could you ever love a machine? Now matter how complex it becomes, it will never have true emotions.

Sounds like a real woman. What's the fuckin' difference?

DIFFERENCE: Your machine can be programmed to NOT fuck you over.

>>41390740
>>41389290
>>41391036
Yes, quantums, thats the point. But its more complicated than it seems. As I said, give a read to the theories of Penrose and Hameroff if you are interested.

>>41382102
Watch bi-centennial man

>man can tolerate the immortal machine
>but man will not tolerate the immortal Human

>>41382102
It's inevitable that the machine will be as complex as us. If machines are as complex as us, I would consider them real.

>>41382102

I love all of my machines.

I take care of them and maintain them.

In return they entertain me.

What is the difference?

What makes ours real and not theirs. Our feelings and emotions are just a response to stimuli which trigger a response in our brains through chemical reaction.

Theirs is just a response to stimuli which trigger a response in their CPU through a stream of data.

We're just biological machines OP. Some are even born without functioning emotions, not the faggot edgelords here, real psychopaths with issues in their CPU.

>>41391306
Doctors are essentially biological mechanics.

It's an uncomfortable thought for many that we are mostly likely "just" biological machines. Very complex but still machines. Doesn't make us meaningless or fake.

If we can replicate what makes us, us, there is no reason why the replicas can't have sentience. The difference is that they won't be carbon based... or maybe they will.

>>41391036
>dendrites are really small
>surfaces made of tons of lipoproteins which themselves are huge polymers
pls

>>41391306
>>41389290

How about instead of making sex robots, we make artificial sex people? In a sense, like clones born from a piece of meat. The thing is, they're not too realistic to make human rights people complain. It would be like fucking your dinner in a sense. So, instead of fucking metal and plastic, you're fucking a fleshy computer with a sexy body. Essentially a fake human.

>>41382102
If I can love 2d characters, I can love a program.

>>41391991
That sounds disgusting.

>>41391991
They had genetically modified clone people in Cloud Atlas. Essentially they were inferior to real humans and therefore weren't afforded the same rights. Theoretically, these people could have been sex slaves.

>>41391991

what you describe is pretty much a cyborg, like the terminator

>they're not too realistic to make human rights people complaint

obsesive bitches love to arrest people for putting the dick in the "wrong" place

they would either call it bestiality, or start pushing for robot rights (just program a robot to claim it feels discriminated and use it to pull heart strings)

on the other hand, if you have a bunch of terminators other people would probably shut the fuck up

>>41389290
>Penrose and Hamerof
I am watching an interview of them both. Sounds interesting. Thanks. Pretty skeptical tho

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Friendly reminder that everyone who would fuck a sexbot would fuck a tranny using the same logic as "it looks like a woman"

It's not a woman

Neither will ever be a woman

>>41392655
>implying you would not fuck one if they were comercially available and affordable
>implying youre not a faggot
>implying youre not so fat your dick is an innie

>>41392706
nigger

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I wish it was 200 years in the future, or whenever we get strong A.I so I can talk with a computer lady...

>>41392655
Considering that you even thought that means you are far more likely to fuck a transvestite than I am. You are disgusting, as is your transvestite lovers.

>>41392500
Lol i am pretty skeptical about it too actually, but still excited about it. Its a possibility.

>>41392729
double nigger with a nigger for president of the united niggerness

>it will never have true emotions.

Human beings are built. If we look at how a baby develops we can see that it is simply a biological process off arranging atoms in the right order. There is nothing stopping us fro studying this process and learning how to artificially recreate biological processes with technology. In that sense it could indeed be possible for an AI to have emotion if constructed in this way.

Now in the short term I think AI is going to be more of a biological / technological hybrid rather than just a computer. But to claim that AI cannot feel emotion is not just a technical question, but a moral and philosophical one.

If it is possible for biology to build something that can feel emotion, scientific theory would state that it is possible for us to recreate that artificially.

>>41392899
Nigger
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>>41389290
>chinese room experiment

Now you're just arguing semantics. "Robots simulate the knowledge well enough to convince you that they actually understand it, but actually don't"

So what separates actually KNOWING from appearing to know?

Like I said, you're arguing semantics.

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>>41391306
But is there such a thing as a soul?

>>41393020
Not really. That's just a model to show a more intrinsic difference between human intelligence and algorithm-based intelligence.

Talking about intelligence simulation: Even if we assume its possible to simulate a human mind with an algorithm to the point you can distinguish between a human mind and the machine, I am pretty sceptical about the possibility of a processor with enough power and with a proper architecture to execute that algorithm. Maybe in 1000 years, if there is still someone here...

>>41393209
Maybe you can say the soul are those strange quantum processes which I mentioned, if you want. But if you call that a "soul" I am pretty sure you will get harassed by raging atheists lol

>>41382102
having something pretend to love you is better than nothing loving you. at least i can be somewhat happy for a time.

Ya'll should read 'Unnatural: The Heretical Idea of Making People' by Philip Ball

>>41393219
>I am pretty sceptical about the possibility of a processor with enough power and with a proper architecture to execute that algorithm

we already have one, our brains
maybe electronics are just innapropiate for the task of this AI, just like mechanical computers proved innapropiate for standard computing

over a decade ago scientists conected a culture of mouse neurons to a flight simulator and made it fly a plane

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/10/041022104658.htm

wetware could be better suited for certain tasks, and electronics for others

>>41382102
People already kinda do love machines. There are plenty of cases of people empathizing and interacting with programs like they're people, like Eliza.

Humans are dumb, unless they're strictly against the idea from a ideological point they wont distinguish between something "real" and a facsimile.

>>41392856
Would sound more interesting if I had a better understanding of their theory. I guess they are saying that we can feel which is different from that of a computer and something about how we are intrinsically tied to the laws of quantum mechanics and may exist in multiple places at once. Something about how the consciousness is deeply tied in with reality

>>41393429
But again, our brains does not function as a deterministic algorithm...Maybe when we have quantum processors there will be other types of program languages with other type of rules and grammars. That sounds interesting, I wish I could had such powerful program language in my hands....

>>41392655
Hello Bela Lugosi

>>41392805
What?

>>41394294
get out of here you... you ... tranny lover... you... lover of delicious feminine penis

mmmm mmm!

>>41382155
Underrated example of what I believe is true

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>>41382102
Well, i will get a huge interitance within the next 15 Years or so.
So i could afford to buy myself a perfect female robot AND pay to get surrogate women to bear my children with egg cells i bought via the black market.
Seems like the perfect solution to me. I get a perfect, loving female and many children.

If we ever get to the point having a good and affordable surrogate to real women, the real women will soon be extinct as they need men more than we them.

>>41394437
Better to wait for your Robotfu to get the artificial womb upgrade.

It doesn't need to be complex enough to not be deterministic, it just needs to be complex enough to create the illusion that it isn't.

Just like real human love. :^)

>>41382102
Could you ever love a woman?

Now matter how complex she becomes, she will never have true emotions.

Just programmed instincts.

>>41394603
aww how sweet :^)

>>41382102
>>41382102
>it will never have true emotions.

>Just programmed algorithms.

just like every animal ever

>>41382102
Isn't that what humans have though? Humans are just biological machines.

>>41393429
In my personal opinion, I don't think an A.I. will be programmed from scratch. It will probably be a human mind put into a computer instead, but we still have a lot of ground to cover in cognitive science, but it seems like the easiest approach.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/weve-put-worms-mind-lego-robot-body-180953399/?no-ist

>>41382102
>Just programmed algorithms
Emotions are nothing more than preprogrammed instinctive reactions to certain stimuli or just brain chemicals.You ever wonder why exactly drugs make you happy?Easy the drug dope causes your brain produce dopamine which is the brain chemical that creates pleasure.Dopamine is also released during sex as well.

Wtf is up with thailand shit posting recently. Its like his 10th thread today. Keep it up and you will be worse than australia

>>41394791
That's Costa Rica you fucking retard

>Americans

Having a sex robot is just as degenerate as being gay.

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>>41382102
Of course. I remember I loved my teddy bear growing up. I still have it in a box and from time to time when I am feeling sad I take it out, give it a hug and i feel better and put it back.

I figure the same thing will be there for a bot.

One that will help you in daily tasks, cook and clean for you, tell you stories and be a great companion. Why wouldn't you love it?

>>41395096
nah, sex robot is degenerate because its not a real person you see

>>41392655
I think Archbishop Fulton Sheen would disagree with you on that.

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>>41395136
>>41394349
>>41392805
>>41392706
>>41394274
I think that everyone has misunderstood me

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Lesbian feminists are already at work to try stop men from having sex with bots.

http://techresourcestop.com/can-robots-say-no-to-sex/

>>41382963
Dunno, Blade Runner is based as fuck tho

>>41382102
>Just programmed algorithims

Our minds are just programmed algorithms. Everything about us is calculated, so why hate on something that isnt made of meat?

>>41395253
not even sure what your point was but just fucking with you... and the dude really did remind me of Lugosi

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>>41395497
brb...reap time

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>>41395509
Y do you hurt me?

>>41395497
have you fallen and can't get up, sir

Humans are just machines made up of different parts.

If I were to create intelligent machines and become their "God', I think I would love my "children".

>>41395133
You're adding nothing of value to society, just more special snowflake terminology for when somebody only fucks robots. In the same way, homosexuals contribute nothing to society.

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>>41395343

I forgot to highlight these gems.

“When I think about the future, and I think about creating a conscious being, I worry in advance whether we will have abuses to the robots,” she says in her talk.

“If a robot is unable to make its own choices, if you program a robot to always say yes to sex, it cannot say no,” she adds. “It wil not have the choice to say no. if you remove the chance to say no, that’s tantamount to duress. Therefore every sexual interaction with a robot could be considered rape.”

Rape. A robot. Fucking insane feminists.

Lumpkin says she’s particularly concerned with sex robots being developed by men, who don’t exactly have a sterling track record when it comes to respecting other people’s sexual rights.

“The scientific community is overhelmingly male, and unfortunately, a lot of times men dont think about what it’s like from female’s perspective,” she says “It’s really important for you to consider that as you move forward.”

>>41382102
Dude we already have sex with PCs: watching their pixels taking human forms simulating sex while we jerk off... yeah that already love between humans and machines.

Wouldn't you feel raped if someone forcefully took your smartphone to play games or call someone?

Don't you feel sad when the internet fails you?

When we get the smart and sexy robots we got love them fully and never get back to smelly dirty bitches.

Wheres the difference

>>41395713
>homosexuals contribute nothing to society.
>says this as he's using a computer

lol

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>>41395761
that is why I think feminists will never allow us to have our pure robot waifus.

I am holding out for Japan to make them. They haven't become mangina SJW.

>>41395793
>implying computers were made in the Castro District by faggots

>>41392655
One is a human being.

The other is a manufactured sex toy. Like a pocket pussy or a dildo.

>>41382102
Dudes in Japan even love pillows... whats their name?
Why wouldn't we love moving, talking, dicksucking robots?

>>41395793
Sorry, I forgot using a computer means I'm a degenerate, perhaps you should tell the other 3 billion+ people the same thing.

>>41384948
Ok, so grandpa said you mom was a fox and you got weird desires huh? Go for it.

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>>41383007

Broseph, Joeseph, seth, Jew.

KIKE DETECTED.

Filterd

>>41395870
That wasn't the point dum dum

>>41382102
Consider this: love takes many forms

For example, someone may love their cat or dog (or other pet), but not in the same exact way they love their family, which is also not the same way they love their spouse

Someone may even have love (though not the same love they'd have for a conscious being) for an inanimate object, something of sentimental value, when, if lost, they'll cry over it and stuff.

It is therefore possible to love a machine. But not possible to be 'in love' with it.

Of course, for the same reason rule 34 exists, someone's going to disagree with me. (and I'm not even going to be mad because they don't victimize anyone having a fetish and lust they confused with love (and possibly also love))

It certainly can't love you back, only obey obey obey. It's also not conscious, so it can't be victimized.

>>41395859
Dakimakura
They love the characters on the pillows, though, which are depicted as living and capable of emotions in their anime.

>>41392655
Actually you convinced me now to fuck a tranny.
I've being essentialist on the "what is a woman" question and now you opened my eyes.

If you love a girl and some aliens surgically remove her genitals would you love her less?

If the same aliens months later surgically inserted a dick on her body and changed every cell on her body to carry now a male dna, would you love her less?

Thanks master. I'm Enlightened.

>>41393020
Humans simulate the knowledge well enough to convince you that they actually understand it, but actually don't

>>41395729
do you have the full video of that webm?

>>41395343
So robot rape is being developed by feminists even before the actual sex robot get real?

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>>41395554
You bet your ass I did

yfw the artificial womb already exists but has not had much research done due to muh ethics

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/feb/10/medicalscience.research

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_uterus#Bioethical_considerations

>>41395870
silly Brit, didn't get the point

>>41395962
Fuck off, tripfaggot.

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>>41396077
Here ya go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7TKBFJMbi0

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>>41382102
>Just programmed algorithms.
What do you think you are? Tell me how you think instinctive behaviors like the maternal instinct and immigration patterns came about?

You are a biochemical machine. Your manufacturing began at conception and proceeded till your birth. You, based on your various constituent genes, have a predetermined lifespan, maybe 8 to 9 decades if you are lucky. But at least, you will expire. In time, you will be forced to die... and just as easily as you were born into consciousness so easily your illusion of self will be quenched and made nonexistence.

>>41395729
>>41395829
I don't understand why they're not happy about the waifus.

>people they don't want to have sex with being less interested in sex with them, and people who only talk to women when they want sex not talking to them
>something to complain about

I guess I'm having a petite-bourgeois moment and self-projecting only to be confused when reality does not resemble my assumptions.. (I'm not super rich here, but well off enough so that I wont ever have to find a husband to mooch off of like a common whore does. Even if I weren't well off enough to not have to worry about it, I'd rather kill myself than have that anyways.)

>>41395962
>But not possible to be 'in love' with it
Don't tell me what I can't feel.
If we can love flawed humans that may cheat on us or be a pain the ass why we would not love a being that will be full time to please us and 100% trustworthy?

>>41382918
>>41382918
We have been behind morse's laws for a good number of years ago

The best thing we have for emulating intelligence is the damn HMM. We aren't anywhere near that level of sophistication. No different from the 1950s utter certainty we would be on Mars by 2001

>>41396282
Because they know that sexbots will replace them. Men will have no use for women and can send them to fema camps.

>>41382102
>it will never have true emotions.
>Just programmed algorithms.
So basically like loving a psychopath.

>>41396107
remember feminists want to expand their sexuality while at the same time limited male sexuality.

That is why they will hate these robots. Even though they won't want to have sex with men the idea that men are enjoying themselves somewhere in the world prevents them from sleeping at night.

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>>41382102
Pretty sure those algorithms would make it more loyal, selfless, lady like, and valuable than any woman I have ever met. Can I get mine programmed not to nag and complain.

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>>41382102
Pfff, who gives a shit about some boring waifubot, cyborgs and combat robots though....that I could love..

>tfw you'll never remove kebab alongside 7ft tall bipedal infantry drones.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nc8a9gnDso

>>41389290
>How a deterministic process can give a random result?
Simple. Because we haven't discovered all the parameters.
There. I've just completed your degree in 3 seconds

>>41396354
>>41396154
People who believe women have no value outside of reproduction should be rounded up and shot.

>all of these virgin neckbeards that think a machine can replace a legitimate relationship

HAHA

>>41396495
But what if that the machine was a sentient being and not prone to being overly emotional?

>>41396478
I agree.

>>41396425
But just imagine you can buy a combat robot that fought the WW3 and hack it and add some peripherals to become your sexual slave.

>>41396478
Women have the capacity to be as valuable as men when not in the context of reproductive purposes.

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>>41382102

>could someone ever love a machine?

Of course. "Romantic love" is no different from the way people love pizza or chocolate or a sunny day or driving fast. It's all the same neurotransmitters. Dopamine, serotonin, norepinephrine. People line to pretend that love is something magical and unique but in reality you are experiencing the same sansations you get with a new girlfriend as you are when you get a new cell phone. Once that cell phone can give you a blowjob... Well you can see where this is going.

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>>41396565

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>>41396478
What value do they have other than that? I know many women most cant cook, cant clean, wont raise or discipline their children, nag incessantly, complain and never raise a finger to fix what they complain about.

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>>41396495
So you're not a machine? What makes you run? Pixie dust? Or chemical energy?

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>>41396565
Have you ever worked in a majority female office. The constant bickering, back stabbing, and name calling drives me crazy. Then I get to come home and listen to my GF talk shit about all the other women she works with. I stopped caring years ago.

>>41396634
that vid looks very wrong.

>>41396610
I know people who love their cars more than their kids so I would say it is possible.

>>41396610
love is everything it's cracked up to be anon, that's why people are so cynical about it

>>41396634
Austria for the win. People are nothing more than machines made of squishier stuff.

>>41382102
I wouldn't trust a machine enough to fuck it, nor would I want to love it.

I'd use it to help me do work though.

>>41396634
the next stop for you is Promethius Rising, anon. You are the robot, but you are also the metaprogrammer. If a robot can program itself, it can be free, and that means you are not just a machine.

>>41396622
What value do you have other than what you'd have from being composted as a corpse and converted to fertilizer? You're worthless.

(and no, I am not being le edgy, I really think that of you)

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>>41396798
That would hurt my feelings if your opinion mattered. I bet your a girl.

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>>41396679
Oh, women probably can be more horrible than men. That's probably why the queen piece in chess has more destructive potential than the king.

>>41396884
Admit you're a faggot or cut your wrists already.

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Yes. Yes I could'

>>41382102
Yes. A close approximation would be good enough for me.

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>>41396905
No I am quite happy living now that I feel your hate. I might just hang around forever and make you cry.

>>41396905
Women are more emotional- therefore, theh are excellent at manipulatation, but susceptible to being manipulated themselves.

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>>41396798
>>41396905
That's what I was implying when I kept making sure you'd draw the queen of spades..

>>41396884
>that denial

Your feelings obviously hurt, but I think you deserve it for being such a stupid little prick.

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>>41396905
Think how much nicer the game would be if she was taken off the board. I was always scare she would eat all the poor pawns.

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>>41396989
How cute you think I care and am not simply amusing myself at your expense.

>>41382102

Who's to say we aren't the same, except with meaty bits instead of metal ones?

>>41382155
This was my first thought as well.

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>>41396965
Have fun. I have something more important to do than continue to talk to a subhuman like you.

>>41396977
I think you're generalizing a bit.

>tfw dissociative nutjob, not necessarily very emotional at the time
>but right now, I'm happy I made that piece of shit >>41396965 so upset he wants to stay here just to try to make me upset
>just as planned, I wanted to do this before leaving him to wallow in his misery

>>41396989
I always thought so..

>>41396998
>>41397019
>mfw this has gone exactly as planned..

Admit you're gay or kill yourself while we're gone. We both know and don't particularly care that you're a faggot in the closet.

>>41397078
It's because of your love for me that you're able to be this way and exhibit this level of sadism towards people like that. But yeah, let's abandon thread while this faggot rages. lol

We really do have more important things to do than talk to that imbecile.

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>>41397078
Oh please don't go I was just starting to enjoy our time together. Not gay just married.

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>>41382102

Yes.

>>41397160
>Oh please don't go
>and didn't even look at thumbnail due to inevitability of it's worthlessness

HAHA TL;DR CRY MORE FAGGOT

>>41397148
<3 /posting /lurkingpol

>>41382102
"Could you" - or, anyone im assuming oyu mean - "love a machine". Yes, as whom I love is subjective to my expression and intention of love's sematintc projection. It has little to do with the machine, unless the meaning of love, to you, necessitates that I am loved back to achieve 'love'.

"no matter how complex it becomes" - assuming we dont know the limits of complexity then - "it will never have TRUE emotions". There is an implication that TRUE emotions are emotions humans or biological entities express. That a robot cant express some form of robotic emotion, if the sensory -somatic perception and understanding of the world - a sort of sentience about it self and the world it is aware of in sensate info which can be categorized into associate contents cant formulate a mind capable of 'feeling'.

A programmed algorithm can be limitless in complexity and self managing in organization. A programmed algorithm in theory could deduce love, if you feed it enough variables and time - not that it would be anble to experience it in qualia, but it could express it in programming.

>>41397216
>Tenno
>Machines

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>>41397237
Prove me wrong. What value do you have?

>>41395887
That image.
Toppest of kek

People already fall in love with cartoon characters. I don't think robots would be a problem.

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no need to ask the waifu fags lol

>>41382102

No it would be no different than having an emotional relationship with a flesh light.

I don't really have emotions either, but I do have a biological need for sex, so I think a robot would be the perfect partner.

>>41389290
>I dont know if you are familiarized with the IA field. I got graduated with honors in that field
stopped reading there

>skim through thread
>one sane person lays it out and even calls out the beast "determinism"
>0 results for "agency", "creativity" or "free-will"

what a fucking wast of time

>>41382102
No matter how complex a woman is, she will never have true emotions.

Got ya there

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>>41397860
>I don't really have emotions

I'm actually interested to see the first sexbot recall. Sexbots will be a thing, it is inevitable, but I think there will be a few hiccups along the way, like some guy getting crushed to death by a robot that has malfunctioned. Same goes for automated cars. It will be interesting to see the public reaction when one of those things goes haywire and kills a bunch of people.

>>41389290
>I dont know if you are familiarized with the IA field. I got graduated with honors in tripfagging
>You imply that all we do or think is biologically programmed, and we dont know that yet.
>Now I tell you my personal opinion: There are amazing properties of matter which we didnt discover yet. Those properties are the ultimate cause of the human consciousness and the origins of our "ego".

for you,
>>41396276
>Tell me how you think instinctive behaviors like the maternal instinct and immigration patterns came about?

>>41397962
If it had teeth there would be no way I would put any part of me near that end of it.

Our emotions are chemical reactions.

How are complex algorithms any different? Complex heuristics? The only major difference is ours were the result of the mindless hand of evolution, while theirs would be the result of our hard work and intelligence.

>>41398004

>our hard work and intelligence

Born from the very chemical reactions that make us react on stupid, impulsive desires. Imperfect beings creating more imperfect beings? Makes perfect sense to me.

>>41398004
God creates dinosaurs. God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man. Man destroys God. Man creates ?

>>41382102
If it looks like a sexy young female, and can deep throat me, take it up the ass, AND clean the house. I am in love.

>>41398004
define intelligence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmi0DLzBdQ
also I'll just leave this here

>>41398074

So you hate kids too?

>>41396691
what does this even mean

>>41398094
So hard to tell why so many guys are so desperate and lonely these days

>>41382102
> randomly select from a personality pool
> randomly pump out a personality

I'm a robot

>>41396748
>If a robot can program itself, it can be free, and that means you are not just a machine.
>You can program yourself

top kek, he actually thinks he can even remotely control his own body

>>41398156

High standards and no impetus to change oneself in order to make oneself worthy of those high standards.

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>>41398156
Because so many women are disloyal useless sluts or fat as the queen of sea cows. Sometimes both.

>>41398125

Not at all, but implying that human intelligence produces things without any drawbacks is bewilderingly dumb.

>>41398249

I never even implied that.

>>41398245 is a good example of >>41398208

>>41382102
How much would cost a Sex Robot startup?

>>41396257
that gif is interesting, I think thats actually possible with what we have now. thanks for showing me this.

>>41396478

But they really don't. Men are better than women at just about everything. Outside of sex and reproduction, they don't have any advantages. Even the old belief of women being loving dependable partners has been destroyed by easy divorce laws and acceptance of sluttish behavior.

Breeding aside, what can a woman offer a man that he can't find elsewhere?

>>41398185
it can go either way right now, as long as the brain remains a black box then either answer could be correct.

>>41382102
Lets not fix that people have become so bad, artificial robots to impersonate totally submissive sex driven humans have to be created to accomadate how
Much everyone hates the idea of assimating to others. Lets just make robots that love us no matter what! Personal growtth?! NEVER a robot will still find our terrible habits ok.

The only people that are excited for this are the people who are so bad at socializing, they reject society entirely and buy an imitation programmed to be unable to hate them instead of fix themselves to become likeable human beings.

So basically the people who are for this would thin the gene pool dramatically.

Never mind i see no problem anymore keep fucking your fleshlights and praying for your slave robots. Its not like the real thing is out there.

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>>41398303
> Makes implications about people on an anonymous message board.
lol nice you sure told me, i'm going right out side to date the first single mom I see and spend my hard earned cash on her and her nigger baby. On second thought ill hit the strip club and support those single mothers one dollar at a time. You have to spread the wealth you know.

>>41397962
they probably wont be very strong the same way women today arent very strong.

>>41398441
Good argument. The answer being nothing. You sir I like.

>>41398489
Never had a successful relationship then... Sure its not you? Or your choice of women? People like you give tumblr something to bitch at us about.

>>41397237
This gurl tries so hard, she sounds like that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPDEy-iElmk

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I already love a machine.

>>41397972
I dont get what is your point. I already said the origin of conciusness or the mechanisms which make it possible are not disscovered yet.

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>>41398598
Tumbler would bitch about anything their feminists. My last wife burned down the kitchen trying to cook a frozen pizza in a box, so i'm pretty sure its not me, also frozen pizza is not a dinner Daphne.

>>41398489
Better challenge

Say 1 good thing about any woman at all for anything. Ill wait.

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>>41398717
*Bows in awe." What dose she have under the hood.

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Could you ever love a human?

Now matter how complex it becomes, it will never have true emotions.

Just programmed genetics.

>>41398717
>I already love a machine.

Not enough to dust the fecking thing occassionally though.

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>>41398787
My first wife was an excellent dancer. Feel better.

>>41398753
You sound like the most unlikeable person ever. So far youve managed to curse all women, then i ask if youve had a good relationship ever and you then tell me about how incompetant your wife was for an accident. Are you ABSOLUTEY SURE its not you? Because when you go on 4chan and talk about this shit you make impressionable losers lose faith in women and act like YOU.

>>41398156
Women are in for some serious butt hurt when sexy robots start arriving. A robo-whore will do ANYTHING sexually and be happy doing it. A good porn-bot can switch its looks and voice, blond valley girl on day, tomboyish Asian the next. If it will also clean the toilet and keep the house guarded and clean, WHY bother with a woman for other than an occasional kinky human love night.

>>41398890
Youve had more than one wife and the only thing you can think of.... Is that your first wife was a good damcer...

Protip: its you.

>>41398598

>mebe its jus u pal and u heff sum growing up 2 do :^)

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>>41398895
Again this is an anonymous message board and you are talking to people you don't know. For all you know I could be bullshitting you because it amuses me to watch you squirm or not it wont matter society is dead in the end. I wouldn't want to be around for the horror show progressiveness will create.

>>41396282
>tripfag
>not a common whore
pick one

>>41398902
>Omg all these benefits

So what you are really saying is that you are the typical tumblr whores mirror image? how are you better than remind me?

>>41398989
Aaaaaand youve passed the level of full blown autism.
>watch you squirm
>making this all up

You care for the issue too much, so your not making it up.

>>41398717
>red LEDs

shit nigga, you trying to start a fire?

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>>41398902
>implying manbots won't be around before fembots

Fembots will be dangerous to women, creepy, indicitive of patriarchal desires and rape/necrophilia fetishes. REAL men wouldn't go near the things, enjoy being socially ostracised.

Good luck finding a company willing to put billions into R&D for that sort of product. Good luck importing one from less progressive societies either.

Manbots though? They're empowering and a superior and crucially, safer option for womyn who are too sensible to take the insane risks of murder and rape having a sexual relationship with a male entails. It even takes out the trash and does DIY!

>Source: Compare societies reactions to A. Fleshlights, B. Vibrators, with the latter having been around for more than a hundred years before the male equivilent was developed.

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>>41399133
You have proven my point I outright admitted to messing with you and you have chosen to believe that I am doing the opposite. Women man.

>>41399139
Gendercide problem. Stupid Asians aborted far more women then men. There are millions more men then women that have ZERO possibility of finding a mate. that is a HUGE market,,, sexbots will be female and in large numbers.

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>>41399135
Don't worry, I covered them in thermal paste shortly after that picture was taken.

>>41383348
You are a sad, sad person
You wouldn't have explored anywhere anyway

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>>41398720
>I already said the origin of conciusness or the mechanisms which make it possible are not disscovered yet
Proved =/= discovered

The thing that you identify as, well you, resides somewhere in the neural circuits of the frontal cortex. Just like every other neuro-orchestrated behavior from motor control to the reward circuit that has been found to be localized in specific neural ganglia, either through classical case studies of lesions to exploratory genetics of neurotissue differentiation. We've known this for decades now. We have literally severed connections to this part of the brain and turned people into personality-less vegetables, none of which (and I really mean none, not most) ever recovered. Just like how we discovered that blood carried oxygen, but took decades longer to discover the cargo protein that did so (now we know is hemoglobin), we are now at the dawn of mapping how these individual neural circuits work in tandem. Specifically last year we made some remarkable progress on how coordinate positions are retained within the hippocampus, a structure we knew already was associated, resulting in the research winning a Nobel Prize.

You aren't a honor graduate of anything or you would know this. Or prehaps you are as bad as the biochemists who pander to Creationists to try and give their pseudo-scientific movement more credibility. You don't want evolution to be true. You don't want to accept the fact you are a finite, temporary construct that will one day be whisked away into nothingness. Never to experience life, feeling, thought... literally anything ever again. I know its a horrifying reality we all must die someday but these are the cards we have been dealt, you have to accept your proposition is a desperate grasping of straws rather than a more legitimate possibility. Be thankful you have been able to exist self aware at all.

>>41399299
That's not a thin even coat.

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>>41398717
I know that feel.
We have been in a long term relationship for almost 20 years now.

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>>41399341
Yeah, what an idiot. He didn't even take the case off before he put the paste on.

>>41399220
>You have proven my point I outright admitted to messing with you and you have chosen to believe that I am doing the opposite. Women man.

This is what autism looks like. Remember, autism is a very serious issue that needs to be treated delicately, if not, it looks like this. Do not hate the autist. Pity him, he does not know happiness and never will whilst blaming women for his own failures.

Oh why did you have to tear into me so hard mr double divorcee ALL WOMEN ARE WHOOOOOOORRREEEESS

>>41398208
Those aren't high standards.

If you are young, it's natural to expect someone young.

Wanting someone to clean and cook is the least you can expect from a woman if you are out there working 40 hours a week to allow both of you the lifestyle you both enjoy. You have to be a lazy pos if you can't even clean and cook for the person that pays your bills. How hard is it to do laundry? Cooking is simple these days. If you aren't a slob, cleaning is minimal.

The sex stuff may not be standards but being sexually repressed in this day and age is kinda depressing :/

by the end of the century 'machines' will be able to experience a wider array of emotions than humans as well as produce superior works of art

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>>41399458
Enjoy being old single and having 50 cats or a nigger baby.

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if only she were real

>>41399658
damn, she's basically a demi-god. She could vaporize your penis

>>41399600
Ok but ACTUALLY enjoy your life it aounds amazing(actually it sounds like id've killed myself if i were you)

also
>all this projection.

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>>41382102
fuck off my waifu has more emotions than real women

>>41399658

Remember she's a woman with robot parts, not a robot woman. You'll still deal with the issues a regular woman would have but also laser blasts.

>>41400036
>Android 18
>Actually a cyborg

Jesus, they had one job, one fucking job.

>>41399331
>>41399331
I would share some things with you, but I dont even see the point when you are replying the way you do, totally disrespectful.

Anyways, what do you mean by "proved"? What is exactly proved? You dont even make sense...the only thing you say in your comment is that what we identify as "you" resides somewhere in the frontal cortex. So what?

> You don't want evolution to be true. You don't want to accept the fact you are a finite, temporary construct that will one day be whisked away into nothingness. Never to experience life, feeling, thought... literally anything ever again. I know its a horrifying reality we all must die someday but these are the cards we have been dealt, you have to accept your proposition is a desperate grasping of straws rather than a more legitimate possibility. Be thankful you have been able to exist self aware at all.

And I said all of that where....?

Seriously mate, I dont know where all that rage comes from. Maybe you thought I am a creationist, a religious person, a misticist, or a new-age movement member, but if you know that much about the brain, you should know you created all those assumptions by yourself and with no empirical evidence. All I did was point to a theory which lately gained relevance due to some experiments, nothing more and nothing less.

Also, my field is not neurology, but IA. I know something about neurology because it is intrinsically related to the IA, and I plain to learn more, but I am not expert on that.

People like you are a problem to the science dude. How are we going to progress if we cant experiment, and change what is established if the empirical evidence contradicts the current theory?

Finally, you should know that things are intrinsically nothing for themselves, but what we create with the concept we have of them.

Epicurus: "Death means nothing to us...when we exist, death is not yet present, and when death is present, then we do not exist"

>>41382102
The prospect of a machine is a lot better than most women.

>>41382102
depends if fem-machine can get a fucking job to pull her share of expenses around the house.

Common core stats-
virgin> not a used whore degenerate
No bitch mode> not a bitch fit thrower

Upgrades-

Liberal Armageddon mode> fights to death with any degenerate scum on command

Full pol package> destroyer of cucks the perfect pol woman who actually finds a human worth her place at owners side transforms into dog after complete mission

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>come back listening to..
>Slayer - Angel of Death
>and look for emotionally devastated replies to my posts
>it's the usual bullshit they have to convince themselves because it's the only way they don't mass suicide on bunk beds when they're trash

Keep telling yourselves that shit until you either kill yourselves, or everyone else gets sick of your shit and kills you. IDGAF.

>mission accomplished: retard feelings were hurt today

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How could I not?

As long as it's extremely convincing I am sure most people could kid themselves and swing it.

I don't really even see how it would be that different. As long as it was convincing enough to make your brain spit out pair bonding chemicals it would be indistinguishable from a human woman on a biological level.

>>41401319
>this.. is the Angela I fell in love with

Don't ever try that open-mindedness bullshit, or that trying to reason with idiots bullshit again, and don't ever treat them like people again, they are trash, inferior to you, and absolutely don't deserve you.

Seriously. These degenerates belong in a mass grave, not at a computer, and certainly not talking to you pretending as hard as they can that you're not superior to them.

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>>41382102

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0KTUysrwgQ

>>41401527
<3 (you're the only man I'll ever be in love with)

>also, I wrote >>41395962, but I'm completely sure that I love machines more than I will or could ever love any of these idiots that I hate

I self identify as a robot and it is only natural for me to be attracted to in-organics. The idea of two human meatbags pressing their slimey mucus covered lips together disgusts me. Stop oppressing me.

>>41401645
Ja. (but you are not IN LOVE with machines, as much as you do like machinery)

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if it looked like this

>>41401732
>tfw have qt invisible bf who is complicit with my genocidal tendencies because he has similar genocidal tendencies
>and the idiots who all belong dead in a ditch for not liking it that I like engineering can't do anything about me having fun anyways

I'm so happy right now. I hope my enemies are slitting their wrists somewhere.

>>41401729
that shit was depressing.. thats why you dont make the ai only live inside an ipod nano... you make her a being that was designed from the inside out to fall deeply in love with the first one she sees while still maining her 'free will' and sentience. kind of like how baby chicks imprint on the mother but in a sexual/romantic way.

and for christ sake, give it a body

>>41401894
I'm glad you're happy.. also, interesting year-get. lol

/posting /lurking

>not because we don't want to shit up a shit thread, we're only pissing in the ocean of piss and this thread is too shit tier to ruin
>but because we're bored of psychologically torturing these idiots, it's redundant now

It doesn't matter if the AI doesn't have real AI, love is about how YOU feel. If an AI and you have real experiences, and real communication like in "Her" then it is absolutely possible to fall in love with an artificial consciousness.

Now the question you really SHOULD be asking is: Is it good for humanity to have AI that humans can fall in love with?