Why have you developed proper mouth posture yet, /int/? Do you want vertical growth in your face rather than horizontal? Do you not want to be handsome?
its important to make the effort, watch the video to find out why
keeping your mouth open quite literally melts your face and makes you look like a jew (big nose, weak chin and jaw, overly sloping forehead)
idk why I watched it but its really life changing
I posted this on three boards just because I felt like i had the moral duty to do so, its a shame more people don't know about this
its the ultimate redpill on aesthetics
you'd be so surprised at how natural it is, it feels unnatural because your western diet of soft high calorie foods has messed you up
once you do it for a while you get used to it and don't have to think about it
no problem, man
its not shit genes, its shit diet and environment, he talks about how virtually all humans hundreds of years ago had perfect jaws and teeth because of their diets
luckily, even if you fucked up as a kid you can fix it as an adult even since your bones are always changing
copy and paste from my /int/ post
I want to spread the word and save as many people from ugliness as possible
so all modern humans up until about 300 years ago had it wrong?
This is one of those little things that bothers the everliving fuck out of me.
When I see people who's mouths are hanging open, I immediately think
So anyone walking about with their mouths open, fix that asap.
It makes you look like a mentally challenged person.
no, if you listen till the end he says how his face drastically changed when he started doing this ten years ago, and the younger you are the faster you'll see the changes
even if you're and adult
post a profile pic of your face
>tfw I realized this intuitively years ago with only a basic college education in human anatomy and have been doing it consistently ever since.
My only regret is not taking a photo journal of the change it's made.
I grew up in a nigger infested shithole so I always made sure I had an extremely pissed off look on my face while walking around.
Teeth clenched, jaw forward, tongue pushed on the roof of the mouth.
This turned into habit and now in my twenties I have a rather masculine jawline.
Thanks niggers! It feels nice to have your girlfriend constantly comment on how handsome you are.
>Teeth together, lips together, tongue on the roof of your mouth
This is actually really terrible for your jaw because it will lead to clenching. I have TMJ and I will tell you, it is hell.
Also this is not /pol/ related in any way shape or form. You saying the word 'Jew' does not make it /pol/ related.
your bottom row should be a bit behind the top, if you feel its too much see an orthodontist and get it checked out
no retard, its not bad for you its the way your natural supposed to be, your teeth are supposed to be touching
Find a really good cranio-sacral therapist anon. It can do wonders for TMJ. Just make sure the person has actually had serious training in it and didn't just go to a workshop over a weekend and then is claiming to know it.
I always wondered why are black people's gums black.
Like i'm half black and my gums are pink but all my black friends have black and pink gums while my white friends have just pink gums.
Is nature racist?
>no retard, its not bad for you its the way your natural supposed to be, your teeth are supposed to be touching
Like I said, you're full of shit.
Yeah I've seen one before but it was just a consultation and even in Commanada it cost something like $500. I don't want to shell out that kind of dosh unless I know I'm getting the surgery, he just gave me a bunch of faggy exercises that only made the problem worse.
I don't think it's made my nose smaller, but then again I don't have the photo compilation to back this up. I started at a time when I was still growing and my nose was definitely smaller than it is now.
I don't really force it into an uncomfortable position just keep my teeth aligned and after a while it felt normal. Actually started doing this not because I thought it give long term results, but I've always had an oral fixation and noticed my face looked much better when I held my jaw in a certain way. It just became like a way to self sooth/concentrate before it started feeling normal.
Strange to see it talked about here since I've never seen it discussed anywhere.
>have perfect teeth save for slight overbite cause by me grinding my teeth forward when angry
>never need braces
>never have cavity
>keep mouth closed when i breath
fuck yeah. now if only i wasnt ugly
>tfw teeth don't interlock properly
Makes it pretty uncomfortable to keep them together for a long time. I still do this though naturally because my jaw used to be smaller. It just hurts sometimes. I wonder if a dentist can fix me.
whites are the only race with pointy chins, dumb ass nigga
My jaw problems prevent me from keeping my teeth together, I at least make the effort to close my mouth though.
>too poor to get my jaw fixed
>in pain every day
>want to end my life
Pic related. Someone got surgery to have his jaw angle lowered. The higher it is, the less white you are.
That's not a pointy chin. That's just a protrusion. I'm talking vertical, not lateral.
1, Can you possibly ad hominum harder, I feel as though there are some anons here who might not get what you're going for.
2, You're arguing with a drunk shitposter, re-evaluate your life.
so if you're in your early 20's, you can still improve your chin aesthetics?
>have a slightly weak chin, it's not bad but it's very slightly on the weaker side
>grow beard out to cover it up, which does look better
hows my angle then
summary for those too lazy to watch
I still highly recommend you all watch it if you get the time:
Daily reminder that your face is ruined because of your environment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY3bIMRKil8 [Embed] [Embed]
-Humans very recently have been eating a soft low volume diet, which means less use of jaw muscles and weaker jaw muscles
-Humans very recently have been weaned off breastfeeding early, so have developed improper swallowing patterns and tongue positions
-Humans very recently have had a rise in allergies, which has led to mouth-breathing and lowered tongue position
-Human bones are very malleable, force from facial muscles and the tongue alter the shape of the bones
-All of these factors combined have led to poor form and function of the face:
-- ugly, downward growth
-- a lack of horizontal growth
-- short, receding chins
-- narrow palates
-- crowded, poorly aligned teeth
-- recessed, elongated midfaces with poor cheekbones
-- less room for the tongue, leading to snoring, sleep apnoea, general breathing problems
The best way to try to fix these problems if you are already affected is to ensure that the teeth are together, the lips are together and the tongue is on the roof of the mouth, as well as chewing a lot of tough foods.
Happy halloween /pol/!
Daddy bought anon a new toy because your faces got beat in with an ugly stick! Enjoy!
probably not, but definitely see an orthodontist (a functional one, make sure its a functional orthodontist)
Pic related. This is to enhance the chin, but a similar procedure done in reverse order would be done on the inner part of your jaw.
For the most part, yes.
Although ever since I had braces, I don't shut my teeth all the way. I keep them about 1mm apart most of the time, I guess. It just feels so weird and unnatural to shut my teeth and makes me uncomfortable.
But I didn't get braces until I was 17 or 18, so I had already developed good aesthetics.
That's normal. Braces were never meant for everybody, and lots of orthodontists really don't know what's best, and usually are just in it for the money. You probably had a weak chin, and they thought braces would fix it, only to give you a receding underbite like a monster barracuda fish. Essentially, the orthodontist did not let you finish development, and you should have gotten your nose fixed for breathing.
Why is being human so complicated?
Where was this knowledge decades ago when it could have been useful?
>You are breathing wrong
>You are resting wrong
>You are using your body entirely wrong
>no wonder you are so fucked up.png
>done all those things all my life
>still not handsome
Remember that while most of this shit is unproven, it IS proven that physical activity during one's puberty years will increase your facial aesthetics tenfold. Make sure to force your kids to play sports when they are 10-14 years old, otherwise they will look like a tub of shit later in life.
The bad thing about being human is that there are so many facets to just doing it right, that it's easy to screw up and become weak/stupid/useless or near useless.
The thing, however, is that if you properly master all there is to being a man, you become, by far, the greatest kind of earthly creature you could imagine. Nothing beats humanity at it's peak.
>physical activity during one's puberty years will increase your facial aesthetics tenfold
FUCK YOU GODDAMNED KIKE BITCH MOM!!!
Also squatting to poop. I used to have terrible constipation and problems growing up, years ago people were talking about shitting like a gargoyle and literally overnight the problem was fixed.
We're also shitting wrong. You're not supposed to sit on a toilet, it's better to crouch down to shit, like a baseball catcher (imagine shitting in the woods and that's basically it).
Not to divert all the blame from the people, but when pregnant mothers have bad diets, it affects the child's facial and dental development. Look up Human Nutrition and Degeneration, or I forget the title. It's this old old book from the 1930s where this guy studies the teeth and faces of primitive tribes untouched by modern food, then looks at people who have been eating unhealthy modern food, which at that time was just white bread, canned vegetables, and marmalade.
The thing is, you probably are/were a mouth-breather, and no I'm not looking down on you for that, as there are lots of people who are. The thing is, nobody really knew about trying to make their kids use their nose, and if not that, even less know about what a deviated septum is.
What is a deviated septum? It's where a nostril seems always swollen, but not from allergies, but from an ill-formed nose from the interior. (meaning the outsides look fine but not the insides)
If you're willing to live with a deviated septum, but want a fixed chin, get a chin or jaw augmentation. Assuming you're an adult, you're old enough to get this fixed.
I'd suggest looking into "lower jaw surgery."
Believe it or not, the prices aren't outrageous. Expensive, but not outrageous.
>everyone in this thread sitting at their computer like a faggot slapping their tongue and mouth around trying to "position it perfectly"
Only someone who is already ugly is worried about this.
This. Such small little complications can really fuck up how we develop in a chain reaction. Like if one person is physically a failure, it can be from one little setback, such as improper breathing, which lead to sleepiness, laziness, ugliness, diet problems, thought impairment, brain development problems, etc. All because of one thing.
But master all of these, and you could have, or someone who's still young, has the chance to be a part of the master race, so to speak.
You're not doing anything wrong. There is no wrong way to breathe. In, then out, then in again. Your body does it whether or not you participate.
The only way to rest wrong is, I dunno, face down on a bed of porcupines?
Stop listening to these idiots and shills trying to make you buy a book/watch a video.
Humans - ALL humans - get sore, get tired, feel bad sometimes, get sick, age, die. You cannot prevent any of it.
>worked out as kid
>10 pack forming
>big assed beard developing to ward unwanted sluts off and to warn women that I'm a cunt destroying alpha who would slay the shit out them with my cock unless they be proper
I think you're right anon. All that DBZ as a kid made me work out and hate myself until the moment when I've given it my all.
That's because he probably got a shitty doctor. Surgery for a deviated septum isn't to merely fix the aesthetics of the nose, it's to allow you to breathe through BOTH nostrils.
That extra bit of oxygen goes a LONG way. As something a simple as breathing, can change your life drastically, and I don't mean that in a spokes person sense. Just oxygen alone sets off a chain reaction of positive or negative effects on your body's development.
Tie a rope around it, than jump off a bridge.
well no duh I'm not a mouthbreather
>tongue on roof of mouth
never thought of it but I do it naturally, so ok
ha, enjoy not having any enamel by the time you're 40 among other things that are not a health positive.
seriously teeth together is a bad idea
Chin is fine. I can't tell about jaw width. Your structure appears to be all from your ethnicity. If you want to appear more white, I guess, or more squared-rectangular like a model, get a jaw angle implant, which increases the vertical posture of your jaw, rather than adding more width.
I guess I lucked out, I always did all 3 of those without even having to think about it.
In fact, how the fuck does one not do those things if it's proper? Why the fuck does mouth posture need to be taught?
It fucks up your facial development. Essentially, causes pic related. You don't want to look non-white do you? Only black people should be getting facial structures like this.
good shit m8. let the face workouts begin
Because I had my jaw dislocated when young and it rather hurts to try and keep my mouth in certain positions.
Ontop of which I developed lung issues and only have use of one lung really, so breathing is harder, thus mouth open.
Im a mouth breather due to this and well, my jaw or mouth stays slightly open often due to the jaw.
>no you can't join the school's weightlifting program, you're 11 and it will stunt your growth!
I get horrendous chronic migraines.
Doctors have no idea why.
I think this might be why. My facial posture isn't terrible (never needed orthodontia but my wisdom teeth were impacted), but it can be improved. I wonder if improved posture lessens headache.
Holy shit the implications of this are enormous to those who aren't able to understand the effect their behavior has upon their quality of life.
When your parents and grandparents demanded that you to have good posture (if your family isn't total pleb-tier), they meant it!
Since malocclusion is more of a recent evolutionary trait, is it possible the human genome has been affected due to the thousands of years of potential inbreeding? There are states today that are still plowing their second cousins, and collecting welfare for their slower kids.
I noticed a while ago that I've been mouth breathing without realizing it for a long time (I get a lot of mucus in my nose). Luckily though, I don't think the shape of my face has been affected by it.
It did teach me that you can dramatically improve how attractive you are just by changing your default facial expression. I've probably looked like a mouth-breathing retard my entire life whenever I've interacted with anyone.
I am a mouth breather, and my face is long as fuck.
Made me look ugly as fuck too, i would have been an 8/10 if i breathed through my fucking nose.
>What a life of mouthbreathing does to you.
Com'on now, he's obvious also very ugly. Just breathing through your mouth alone isn't enough to make you hideous as fuck.
I never noticed it before..... Oh god.... I think I have a jew nose....
you can still dramatically improve, not 100% to your potential if you hadn't mouth breathed, but still very much so
lips together, teeth together, tongue on the roof of your mouth!
Check out Kurt Cobain's chin and jaw compared to piss weak Dave Grohl's.
So I have a shark fin nose. Also I never knew you were supposed to keep your teeth closed. I always kept my lips closed but let my jaw just hang. Will try to keep this in mind now though
>that feel when I forget all of this in 30 minutes and go back to being an ugly mouth breather
I wasn't going to get laid by doing this anyways.
>lips together, teeth together, tongue on the roof of your mouth!
I have tried this before, but i have one nostril that I can't really breath out of so it's really hard
>that Krist Novoselic/Robin Williams hug at the end of World's Greatest Dad
That's already how my face naturally rests but it does not come without issues
Because my teeth are constantly closed together it exerts a lot of pressure on my teeth and has slowly over time cracked 3 fillings (I'm 26)
k, I'll see a doctor
pic related is my face, what do you think, is my jaw that bad?
I am 20 btw
>but i leave my tounge at the bottom of my mouth
dotn do that, the most important part is the tongue placement, it supports your maxilla which is the most important bone in determining attractiveness, it controls everything
>infact clenching my teeth actually makes my face looks very strange in a bad way
no one is saying to do this, just keep the teeth together, don't clench
Yeah but my upper jaw naturally exerts a lot of pressure on my bottom one
I don't have to try to keep my teeth together I have to try to keep them apart to prevent cracked fillings and gum recession
also, r8 my nose guys
jew or no jew
I wonder what other subtle bodily postures have ruined our lives.
Maybe I lost an inch of growth because slept wrong, maybe I put stress on my knees and back running and lifting wrong until recently. I saw a report that most people do not have straightened hips, this adds up to pain and pelvis damage in time, but luckily there are special exercises to straighten your hips.
A lot of white and asian males experience sup bar growth considering the similar hermit life styles a lot of us exhibit
also more about that special exercise to straighten your hips please?
This is the definition of pseudoscience
His claims are backed up by nothing other than personal anecdotes and his claims are also not accepted by the orthodontistry and dentistry communities as a whole
Don't waste your time with this dumb shit and instead focus on actual improvement
Read, physically train, and do a thorough introspection everyday
Don't listen to pseudoscience
OP confirmed for quack dentist in the linked video
>His claims are backed up by nothing other than personal anecdotes
but he actually treats people with this, and he's shown before and after pics of his own work in the past
>not accepted by the orthodontistry and dentistry communities as a whole
because it threatens how much money they can make
Galileo views weren't accepted at one point either you know
Does it really matter if it doesn't work or not?
>instead of having people sit around with their mouths open they will not sit around with them closed
Truly horrible, what an evil, evil man. He's a master of trickery, a nation wrecker. This is clearly the end times, a plague of demons, sent forth to lie, and ruin our facial features pseudoscience.
okay then, you tell us why so many people have chins stuck inside their necks all of a sudden
even my grandfather notices it, he blames chemicals in the water but the point is this shit wasn't around when he was a kid
Of course not
It's more broscience being touted as gospel by a pituitary retard who blames his terrible aesthetics on being a lazy sack of shit when the fact is he just has shit genetics
No it just makes you look significantly less retarded. Seriously, next time you are out in a public area with lots of people, notice how many people (guys especially) have their mouths slightly open.
>traditional orthos will fuck you up
not that guy, but I'm 24 and have terrible teeth. i haven't really seen many people with worse teeth than me. i never had braces as a kid, had bad breathing and eating/drinking habits. my problems are mainly in the front. i have two protruding canines, one up top, and another on bottom. my lateral incisors on the sides where the protrusions are are also messed up as a consequence. and i have a small gap between my two front teeth. my chin and jaw aren't too terrible. my dad and sister have great jaws and there are shades of a good jaw in mine.
i am terribly insecure about my dental problems and don't even want to smile in front of people. when i do, i always struggle to keep my lips closed. w-what should i do
i also have terrible TMJ
Shit genetics and people being fat fucks who would have well defined jawlines if it weren't for the fat they carry around
I have a god tier chin and jawline which are merely part of my godlike genetics
There is something of note to be said about the change in male tone of voice, volume of voice, and facial structure over the past 100 years.
Perhaps these things are partially a result of improper breathing, improper posture of mouth and chest/back, etc.
google functional orthodontists in your area
a functional orthodontist will work in a way that requires no extractions (or very few if absolutely necessary only) and tries to make you look more attractive rather than only fixing your teeth
I'm 5'11" so yes I am king of manlets but I do have a godlike jawline and chin
Orthodontist ty and dentistry are based upon peer reviewed science
What the guy in the OP is selling is essentially jelqing but for your face
You raise a good point
>he has one of the most terribly annoying voices in history.
What are you a faggot?
>And has admittedly hit women.
How does this factor into the discussion?
exercises take a back seat to proper posture, make sure your maintaining it!
remember: lips together, teeth together, tongue on the roof of your mouth
also, chew the hardest/toughest gum you can find
this kind of shit pisses me off so badly.. they have known this stuff since the 1930s and yet here we are having to figure this shit out on our own on a fucking philipeno image board... fucking Donar!
Anyway.. jus a reminder that if we lived in a national socialist nation this stuff would be taught to everyone.
anyway link here
> diet and exercise have a very small impact
you're wrong as fuck
Anyone else here ever read that book about how shoes halt development of the foot and make walking/running more strenuous? The point of the book seemed to be walk barefoot and on your toes and itll correct the muscle structure in your legs and feet.
I think it was called Born to Run.
As informational as this was, did anyone else get a slight chuckle with his examples in the presentation?
>Okay so you see this here problem with so and so, lets go to this example and
>LOOK AT THIS DROOPY FACED FUCKER HERE. SEE THAT SHIT. SEE HOW UNATTRACTIVE THAT SHIT LOOKS? NOW LOOK AT STEPHEN HAWKING NOW WITH THIS SUNKED IN JAW SHIT...
>OK so now the reason for this is...
I watched the entire thing. Thank you OP.
this is that guys only face for life. He will not get a do over, he will most likely never have the money for the level of plastic surgery he requires. The fact that people like this are able to actually not kill themselves is pretty amazing.