Hey /pol/, I'm texting my self-hating friend right now and he just told me "White people are the cause of everything evil that has happened in society. Prove me wrong."
How should I rebuttal, for starters?
tell him the concept of 'society' was invented by white people and the ability to critique international ethics is also created by white people
basically to criticize white people you have to use their philosophy and languages....
> King Gezo said in the 1840's he would do anything the British wanted him to do apart from giving up slave trade:
>"The slave trade is the ruling principle of my people. It is the source and the glory of their
wealth…the mother lulls the child to sleep with notes of triumph over an enemy reduced to slavery…"
Slavery is purely African.
I thought race was a social construct? how could a race that dosn't exist be responsible for something?
you won't hear from him again but that will cause his mental gymnastics to flip.
Just tell him about islam and many of its great contributions to the world
tell him that egyptians werent white and they had plenty of slaves and cruelty to go around
link him to the wiki article about the japanese(or was it chinese) unit that did brutally unethical testing to POWs and their own civilians
We're all equal, even in cruelty
Your friend is an ape enabler
DAMN DIRTY APES
THEY BLEW IT UP ! ??!?? .....
DAMN YOU ALL TO HELLLLLL!!!
Ask him about the wonderful mud hut architecture in Africa
How many "white" neighborhoods do you see this
pic very related
>get robbed enough to bullet/shatter proof a fucking subway sandwiches franchise ...
If white people are so terrible, why is it that when someone makes an app to avoid high-crime areas, people assume that means they'll be avoiding people of color rather than whites?
See also, pic related, a black man walking into a McDonald's in a "sketchy" neighborhood with a knife in his back. It would be racist to avoid such an area!
Decided to go with this: >>33719955 so as to not make it a matter of black vs. white right off the bat.
His reply was "Alright but that's all before America became the world power. That's the timeframe I'm talking about. White people came to America, killed everyone, enslaved people, and took control of the land. Everything evil that has happened in society after that has just been an effect in one way or another."
Just as an example off the top of my head, I referenced the genocide in Africa between Hutus and Tutsis during the 90's. He responded with "White people have caused a mass-hatred of black people, therefore black people hate each other and that's how those conflicts occur."
It's called the right to conquer ever race has done it and natives were savages who followed by the right to conquer as well. Secondly we never enslaved black people we bought them from africans and as i recall the first person in america to own a black slave was a black man
Respond with this.
Problem is he might be too stupid to know what white man's burden is, it's amazing how it has been brick for brick rebuilt by liberals today.
>It's white man's responsibility to lift these people up
I have no patience for this, OP.
There would be no modern society without whites.
Is your friend using a computer, OP? It was invented by whites. How about his smart phone? Does he use electricity generated by power plants? Does he drive a car or watch television? Has he ever flown in an airplane? Does he have indoor plumbing? Is his home heated by something other than burning wood? Yes, all of these things were invented by whites. Modern medicine? Modern agriculture? The use of petroleum and petrochemicals? Modern industry and production methods?
Let's just look at the last 5 examples. It is because of these white innovations that we have a global population of 7 billion...these are people of all races.
Everyone, around the globe has white people to thank for this. Our medical technology, our agricultural innovation, our industry, our chemical engineering, and our transportation has allowed, for better or worse, for the global population to surge.
From unlocking the energy and versatility of petroleum to the atom, from something as simple as penicillin, anti-septics,sanitation, and sewage treatment or refrigeration to something as complex as surgery, vaccines, internal combustion engines, turbines, or nuclear power...whites are the reason why everyone on this planet is living longer and why the global population is the largest that it has ever been.
I will not apologize for white ingenuity, intelligence, or creativity.
You can look at our sins, but even on just a purely utilitarian metric, we have allowed more people to exist at one time than ever in human history. Our virtues far outweigh our vices.
I will take your friend seriously when he stops using all of these inventions and innovations.
His life would be an absolutely miserable subsistence existence without Caucasians.
tl;dr your friend can fuck off.
I used to commute from there all the time, too. It is definitely not the worst neighborhood I've seen, but it's somewhat sketchy, especially when you're heading home in the middle of the night.
The Truth About Slavery: Past, Present and Future
/pol/'s favourite cult leader made a dynamite vid' to explain how white people have done more to end the ancient institution of slavery than anyone else.
I think Thomas Sowell also did a thing on this as well.
Come, bring your kids.
Here's a picture outside of the McDonald's in question. I can assure you there will be people arguing here on any given morning.
You honkeys wouldn't wants ta be living longer if you wasn't living tha high life off tha backs of us brothas. And y'all just making us live longer so we can do mo o yo work for ya. Medicine is racist as hell, sheeit.
OP here again.
Basically just condensed this: >>33720732
into an explanation that most of the great things which have occurred as a result of modern society, including the society itself, have been created by white people. I listed some of the examples given by anon (thank you by the way) and he responded with "It doesn't matter. The benefits that we receive today as the white population come from slave labor and the manipulation of the lower class/minorities. Regardless of the good that has come from them, they are still evil acts committed by white people. You've just described how the evil acts of our ancestors shape the society we live in today, which is exactly my point. White people have created this society and all the evil within it."
>white nations invent egalitarianism
>white nations invent suffrage
>white nations invent gay marriage
>white nations abolish slavery before everyone else
>white nations invent secularism
>white nations invent the Geneva convention
>white nations invent 80% of math, science, and technology from the enlightenment onwards
White people are the problem.
More people of all races currently exist and live longer than at any other time in human history because of white industrial, medical, technological and agricultural innovation...and this does not matter to him?
I picked a year at random from the following table:
In the year 1400 there was an estimated global population of 389,000,000.
Now there is a global population of 7 billion.
The combined current approximate population of Western Europe, the US, and Canada combined is 1billion and not all of the people who reside there are white).
This means that 6 billion people now exist of all other races that would not otherwise exist without white innovation.
Your friend is saying that the lives of 6 billion people do not matter? Really.
Whites are the reason why there are about 6 billion more people of other races on this planet than there were in 1400.
Is your friend dense? Would it be better to your friend if these 6 billion people of other races did not currently exist?
White people didn't invent labor and slavery. They just participated in ongoing methods for production, and were the first to move away from this following emerging debate from European intellectuals as noted by >>33721571
Yes, the economic conditions in which some great inventions came about are questionable (as remains true today), but it was still whites who harnessed that system to build those great things which help out billions around the globe today (look at human rights rhetoric and demands for global development - people all of the world want white inventions). Meanwhile, blacks were enslaving blacks in Africa, and what do they have to show for it? Nothing, they had their slaves work toward short-term sustainability and entertainment. Whites had their slaves living in cramped sheds while Africans were lucky to have huts.
And as >>33721505 says, your friend recognizes that whites were responsible for our present society, but just takes as a given that our current society is evil. While there certainly remain to be evils in the world, you have to question how bad things are ultimately. Don't let him fall into utopian fantasies. There's been a ton written on utopia in recent years in academia.
You just texted me that in English on an iPhone, faggot.
Those types are dumb as shit.
If religion was the dominate social force they'd be fiercely religious, if National Socialism was the dominate social force they would be Nazis and so on.
Have to realize there is a large part of the population that just can't think independently and will just parrot what the media, education system and peers tell them. It sucks but you can't move a mountain.
You could show him this. It puts things in perspective.
Tell him he's a euro-centric ignoramus.
If he was greek he'd be moaning about the Ottomans If he was Taiwanese he'd be moaning about the Chinese.
Probably half true. But then, we're responsible for much of the greatest literature, philosophy, art, cinema,scientific advances etc etc also. Some of the greatest evil people have been white, and they have also been defeated by other white people. Some of the greatest evil and greatest good has come for white people. We get shit done.