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Let's settle this.
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>>33468412
what you Nords don't realize is that you NEED Elves to enrich our culture!
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>>33468412

If a united Empire couldn't defeat the Aldmeri Dominion what makes you think the Nords can alone?
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>>33468949
>dragonborn
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>>33468412

The Empire is the only way.

The Nords to have some pride in being a part of it.

Then everyone works together to fuck the Dominion before they figure a way to unmake the physical world.
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>>33469179

He only seems unstoppable in the game anon he cant beat them alone.

Also he was on the empires side I saw for myself.
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>>33468949
The idea being is that empire was holding back the individual provinces and actively enabling the aldmeri position
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Ulfric is a megalomaniac faggot and splitting the Empire up was The Dominion's plan all along.
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Remove Nordscum
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>>33468412
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Anyone who votes for the Nords is a fucking idiot. Anyone who controls a piece of land, rightfully owns it. If the Nords can rebel and takeover Skyrim, then it's rightfully their's -- that is, until the Empire strikes back and reclaims it.
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Considering Talos worship literally holds the universe together I'm gonna go with a solid Stormcloak.
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>>33468412

>In Arena you are an Imperial Champion
>In Daggerfall you are an Imperial Champion
>In Morrowind you are a Dunmer
>In Oblivion you are an Imperial
>In Skyrim you are a Nord

If you play the games as the stories they are meant to be played as (without achieving CHIM) then you already know the right choices.
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>>33472682
Top lmao
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>>33468412
The stormcloaks are false flag and paid by the elves.

The True High King was anti elf and was a good leader.

The emperor, the high king, the empire, all stood ready to take back the land the elves stole and restore balance and freedom.

Talos was never forgotten.
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>>33472974

This.

If you want to be a tool of chaos or a tool of destruction then by all means side with the empire or be nonaligned.

Talos' Apotheosis prevents the Altmer from achieving godhood and either ruling or destroying mankind. To achieve the death of amnkind the Altmer must destroy belief in Tiber Septim as being a god.
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>>33468412
>http://strawpoll.me/2267274
THIS IS WHY SKYRIM THREADS ARE SO INTENSE. WE ARE DIVIDED ALMOST RIGHT DOWN THE FUCKING MIDDLE
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>>33473114

Politics are the red herring.

Talos is the universal glue of humanity's future in Nirn. Simply the reverence of Talos is reason enough for everyone to side with the Stormcloaks.
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>>33468412
empire
ulfric was a thalmor shill playing directly into thier hands

the aldmeri dominion was preparing for another war the only thing that could stop them would be a unified humanity
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The empire, when given the chance, nearly beheaded me.

They didn't know how badass I was, or how I could've worked FOR them. They went right to beheading.

Empire = Islam
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>muh nordic nationalism

fuck off shitters, you are traitors to the emperor
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>>33473026
Actually, by saving, loading, pausing to open your inventory or favorites menu, modding, or using console commands, you have achieved CHIM.

All of these acts are explained in-game, as being CHIM. You are your character and you are in full control of everything that happens to your character in the game, thus your character is already CHIM.
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>>33473267
That's what you deserve for being a degenerate.
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>>33473340
You stormcloak plebs better learn your place. The Empire will strike its mighty fist upon you.
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What's CHIM? I've never heard of that before
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>>33473340

CHIM is for PC master race only.

And it's not just about realizing you can pause and mod. The NPC who achieved CHIM turned into a god. The secret (according to the 37 sermons) is that.. ah hell it's to late at night for CHIM discussions. Tomorrow anon.
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>>33473485

Tamriel is a simulation. No, really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bMrrYs0CG8
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>>33473485
good thing you're anonymous. you NEVER publicly expose your stupidity power level and/or the fact you can't use google
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5 seconds ago, I had this very same question.

Then I googled it. And now I know.

>be a little more resourceful
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>>33473485
PLEB/10
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>>33473619
>>33473625
But I use yahoo
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>>33473544
What I'm saying is that if you were a, say Nord, who lived in the TES universe, and you achieved CHIM, you would be able to in a sense, "open the console, target someone and type 'kill' to kill them". You would be able to, "pause", or "reload", or "save". You could open something akin to the creation kit, and mod yourself a waifu, or make yourself a dragon and fly around.

You, in this world, are playing a character, in the TES world, who can already do those things. When you're about to be murdered to death by a Dunmer mage in the game, you can just pause your game, open your inventory and pop a fire resist potion and a health potion. This is effectively your character turning into a "god" without actually becoming an Aedra or Daedra. You could even mod yourself into your version of the game as the 10th Divine if you wanted. This is what I mean.
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>>33473485
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>>33473835
THIS IS THE PLEBBIEST PLEB I HAVE EVER HAD THE PLEB TO PLEBIFY A PLEB AS SUCH.
PLEBOSITY LEVEL = SOMETHING YET UNREACHED 9000 MLP FLAVORED FEDORAS MADE OF TRANSEXUAL DICKS
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When I played I joined the Imperials because I felt more kinship to them, because they were basically Romans, and they were more civilized.

But now, i'd probably pick the Stormcloaks

>mfw you realize high elves are the Jews of TES
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>>33468412
SKYRIM BELONGS TO THE NORDS!
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>>33474182
Actually, that's the Dunmer.

>I felt more kinship to them

They were going to behead you just for being in the wrong place/time. They enforce the banning of Talos worship and permit the Thalmor to kidnap and murder their citizens.

Are you Italian?
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>>33473326
The emperor lost his divine right to rule the moment he signed the white gold concordat

Just because he admitted he was a piece of shit not worthy of rule doesn't mean all the provinces have to agree
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>>33473136

I can't vote for the thalmor.
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>>33474330
I am Hispanic. We were part of the Roman Empire.
This was before I knew that there was minimal italian admixture in Iberia. Even then though, We look very similar
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>>33473236
>>33473114

>I can't into reading comprehension
>what does uncooperative asset mean
>what is the establishment of perpetual conflict

>>33468949

Daggerfall (Redguards) resisted and drove back the Thalmor invasion of their lands alone and without the Empire. Skyrim can do the same, and so protect the Throat of the World.
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>>33473114
lol, now we gotta be redpilled about the politics of TES
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>>33474497
The Thalmor don't want the Stormcloaks or the Imperials to win.

The worst choice is not to choose a side. The best choice is to fight for the Stormcloaks and to remove the Imperials and their embedded Thalmor agents from Skyrim.
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>>33468412

Isn't there that Thalmor journal that reveals that Ulfric Stormcloak is one of their agents? I remember reading that fucker after I had kicked the empire out of Skyrim and freaking out because it was such a huge betrayal
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>>33473326
>>33474485
>fighting for the mede empire
Nothing but a warlord, no divine right there. The Septim empire was the last great empire.
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Redguard (in-game and in real life) here. I side with the Stormcloaks. There is nothing wrong with a people trying to save their home from foreign invasion.
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>>33474790
give him pointy ears
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>>33474771

On the Markarth incident.

When the Imperial Legion arrived to restore the rule of law, Ulfric refused them entry into the city until they also agreed free worship of Talos would be allowed. With chaos supposedly running through the streets of Markarth and the reports of deaths rising every day, the Empire had no choice but to grant Ulfric and his men their worship, thus jeopardizing the peace agreement with the Aldmeri Dominion.[6]

Eventually, The Empire rescinded upon the agreement due to pressure from the Aldmeri Dominion, and Ulfric and his militia were expelled from the city and imprisoned shortly after. This betrayal left Ulfric bitter towards the Empire and is considered to be the initial conception of the Stormcloak rebellion.[6]

They arrested and tortured him. He is listed as an uncooperative asset because he is fighting and weakening the Empire.
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>>33474582
Daggerfall is a city in High Rock moron. Hammerfell is still fighting. And for various reasons but not the least of which is the fact that most of their soldiers were Imperial legionnaires and use Imperial armaments
>The Concordat's terms also included the cession by the Empire of a large portion of southern Hammerfell to the Aldmeri Dominion. Hammerfell, however, was unwilling to accept the loss of so much territory and continued to fight, forcing Titus II to officially release Hammerfell from status as an Imperial province in order to maintain the treaty, but not before allowing most of the legionnaires stationed in Hammerfell to be declared 'invalid', thus allowing them to continue fighting.
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>>33474819
They are already an imperial province. The Empire was founded by Nords with the people of Cyrodil
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This was rigged, right?
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>>33473136
What's this meme called anyway?
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>>33474994
>Hammerfell

right.
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>>33473136
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>>33475221
But Orcs are Elves.
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>>33474656
if you can't analyze fantasy how can you analyze reality
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>>33468412
>tfw rigged bot poll

damnit dude i wanted this to be real
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>>33475357
>I don't like the results
RIGGED!
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>>33475415
It's been 50/50 the entire time.
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>>33475415
>430 voters
>50/50
>not rigged
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>>33468412
Empire. The Nords will need allies to beat the pointy-eared jews, and the stormcloaks alienate too many people.
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>>33475480
>>33475504
Did the Jews do it?
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>>33475561
No, the Thalmor did.
They want the war to go on for as long as possible, remember?
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>>33475525
The empire has already failed at beating the elves once, and has no prospects for getting any stronger whilst the elves have plenty.

At least reforming Tamriel into a bunch of free kingdoms would keep the elves away from the towers.
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>>33468412
While men are doomed if they fracture further, it is the ultimate right of a nation to self-determination. Solitude is an imperial city, Riften was destroyed by immigration, and other than that, most Jarls were for secession.
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>>33468949
The Thalmor end up winning in the end. They become successful in destroying Nirn altogether.

It doesn't matter who the Dragonborn sides with.
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>>33475525
>The Nords will need allies

What makes you say that they will need allies to defend the mountains? Do you assume the Greybeards will remain silent forever? A small force can hold down a much larger one in the mountain passes.
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>>33475298
Technically but they're usually not thought of as such. It's rarely referenced in game (pretty sure other mer don't greet you as "brother" if the player is an orc). They're more likely to get lumped together with Kahjit and Argonians as "beastfolk".
Where does it say they aren't in the pic?
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>>33475644
No it wouldn't. They would just take each kingdom one by one (excluding Blackmarch and Morrowwind).
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>>33475644
Are you fucking retarded? When have smaller things survived to larger ones? The Empire is your best chance, nigger.
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>>33475614
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>>33475700
Says who? Don't pretend c0da is canon.
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>>33468412
Stormcloaks is only right answer
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>>33468412
>siding with the merchants
>not the proud white men
I'm am disappoint /pol/
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>>33475720
No they wouldn't, there's such a thing as a coalition.

One united empire has already proved useless and now the elves run it from the inside with free reign to achieve their goals. With a disunited allied empire it would be much harder for them to covertly control kingdoms but they could still be fought by a coalition.
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>>33475770
Apparently everything is canon now.
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>>33475851
>Implying Ulfric isn't a puppet of the Thalmor.
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>>33475925
see

>>33474990

>he isn't
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>>33475703
>What makes you say that they will need allies to defend the mountains?

The fact that they already failed to do that once.

>Do you assume the Greybeards will remain silent forever?

The Goybeards don't give a shit about happenings outside their stronghold. As long as they're free to worship their hippie dragon on their mountain, they're happy.

The only reason they interfered in the war at all was because the Dragonborn needed a temporary truce to beat Alduin, if I recall correctly. Besides dragon-related happenings, they don't give a shit about the outside world.
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>>33475504
>>430 voters
>>50/50
>>not rigged
Maybe it's because the game was so amazingly written, where everyone who thinks logically will support the empire, but everyone emotionally supports the stormcloaks.
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>>33475726
>When have smaller things survived to larger ones?
All the time, look up the Napoleonic wars. A coalition of small states is often the best thing for combating larger states, especially when the enemy already has free reign to do what they've wanted to do all along from the inside of the empire.

>The Empire is your best chance, nigger.
So they can lose again? KEK.
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>>33475644
....you probably think the same about real countries too don't you? First round it was hardly the WHOLE empire. Once the Bosmer realize that the Altmer aren't their friends and rebel, the Empire will come to their aid. Then the eastern provinces will put their backs into this time (because by now everyone realizes the Thalmor are dicks)
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>>33475980
When the Thalmor come to destroy the Throat, they'll fight.
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>>33475925
>Implying the Thalmor isn't the puppet of the merchants to spread fear among the god loving races and forcibly convert ever race to their way of thinking.
Imperial=/=Thalmor
Nords are the only ones that need to assimilate to the merchant ways.
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>>33476019
>he Empire is your best chance, nigger.
No, because real countries don't house magical monuments that shadowy organizations wish to destroy in order to undo creation.

>Once the Bosmer realize that the Altmer aren't their friends and rebel
They are, the Thalmor aren't joking when they say they're the saviors of the elves. They pretty much gained power from winning at the Oblivion crisis and their whole goal is to return time to the dawn era when elves were immortal angel-like beings and men didn't exist. It's in the elves best interests that they win (except Orisimer and Dunmer who are theologically opposed to returning to the dawn era).

>Then the eastern provinces will put their backs into this time (because by now everyone realizes the Thalmor are dicks)
Nigger, when Argonians were marching all over Resdayn the empire did sweet fuck all and now have pretty much no military control in Morrowind because house Redoran run the show.

The empire can expect House Redoran to do exactly for them what they did when they pulled the imperial troops out of Morrowind during the Oblivion Crisis, fucking nothing.
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>implying the proud white Dwarfs wont come back and save the Nords and other noble races from the greedy hands of the Merchants and Thalmor
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>>33476018
The aldmeri dominion is a formidable enemy.
The only reason Tiber Septim was able to conquer the Summerset Isles was by utilizing mer technology left behind by the Dwemer, the Brass God. This is the whole reason they are setting out as conquerors now. They are angry that Talos defeated them, and now they want revenge.

A united Empire is the only thing that can stop their grasp at revenge. We have to beat them back to the source, or at least off the mainland.
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>>33476227
>Dwemer
>Not basically Thalmor on steroids
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>>33476019
Argonia (Black Marsh) is suspected of seceding shortly after the Oblivion Crisis and Morrowind is confirmed to have done it. The Empire doesn't have Eastern provinces.

It is currently composed Cyrodil, northern Elsweyr (they split between Thalmor and Empire), Highrock, and depending on next game's outcome, Skyrim too.
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The nords were a bunch of inbreds who'd charge into the vastly superior enemy forces and die instantly. The Empire had the tact to bide their time and wait for the perfect opportunity to strike.
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>>33476211
>>33476311
Morrowind is confirmed to have seceded during the Dragonborn DLC
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>>33476227
Isn't there only one living dwarf left? I don't think that nigga's gonna do much.

>>33476055
The Greybeards can't fight the Thalmor alone. They're powerful, but 5 old men against the entire Thalmor army? They're fucked. The Nords need armies on their side, not a few Greybeards. And besides,
>When the Thalmor come to destroy the Throat, they'll fight.

In order for them to even reach the Throat of the World, they would have to have already conquered half of Skyrim. It would be far too late by then.
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>>33476227
They Dwemer were mer you idiot. Plus they weren't even white, they were grey (the only naturally grey race to boot).

>>33476278
The Dwemer weren't religious. They wouldn't have cared what god you were following, as long as you didn't annoy them. Then they would enslave you to work in the aetherium mines.
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>>33476263
They don't want revenge at Tiber Septim for conquering them, they want revenge on Lorkhan for dooming elven kind to mortality.

>A united Empire is the only thing that can stop their grasp at revenge. We have to beat them back to the source, or at least off the mainland.
A united empire failed once, it will fail again especially since the Dominion have only gotten stronger and there's nothing that can save the empire now.

Hammerfell with aid from allies on Tamriel were able to resist Aldmeri conquest, literally the only people on the continent who were able to tell the Thalmor where to go and they were independent. There's no reason to believe an independent Skyrim couldn't do the same and there's plenty of reason to doubt that the empire are ever going to recover to their former strength.
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>>33476319
>implying it hasn't been thirty years and the Empire hasn't been twiddling their thumbs and sucking Thalmor dick the entire time
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>>33476211
Bosmer have a little man blood (just like Bretons have a little mer blood) Thalmor are the saviors of the Altmer. Remember when Delphine tells you Malborn can be trusted because "he's a Bosmer. Plenty of reason to hate the Thalmor" His family was wiped out in a Thalmor purge. A purge. You don't purge allies, you purge captive satellites
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>>33472179
>Nords not approving of the slaughter of elves

0/10 poor effort kike
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>>33476384
Neither do the Thalmor, if you want to worship fucking living god idols like Vivec they couldn't give two fucks. They don't want you to worship Talos not because they think it's heresy, but because Talos is a tower which they need to disable in order to undo creation.
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>>33476357
They would have to go through Orcs, Forsworn, Bretons, and Cave Bears to do so.
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Stormcloaks

>not picking the superior armor
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>>33476416
>Tiber Septim isn't Lorkhan's avatar
>Elves would exist if not for the procreation of the Aedra in response to the sapping of their divine essence

One comes before the other man.
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>>33476476
Also notice when Malborn is fleeing the Thalmor they send a Khajiit after him.

The Khajit (and probably many Bosmer) are very loyal to the dominion because they saved them from the Oblivion Crisis and are presumably down with their plan to make them all immortal.

Like all conquered nations there's plenty of ways to strongarm them to your cause, and thus far Valenwood seems to be solid dominion territory.
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>>33476499
Why would Orcs and Forsworn fight for the Stormcloaks?
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>>33476615
The Orcs might, but the Reachmen would rather die I would think.
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>>33476562
>Not wearing Imperial armor to infiltrate their camps before the ambush.

It's like you can't into asymmetric warfare or something.

Anybody else notice how many fucking Redguard there are in the Leigon? I swear, the majority of the Legionnaires I slaughtered were fucking Redguard.
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>>33476562
>Implying I didn't join the Imperial Legion and kill that Thalmor at the mouth of that dungeon for a free set
>Implying I have to pick sides for cool armor
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>>33476615
>implying the savages don't just attack anything sentient that crosses their path and isn't one of them
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Sorry stormfucks, looks like the empire wins against the nord subhumans as usual.

>implying skyrim has a military capable of vanquishing the thalmor
>implying nords can build anything other than tombs and ugly, filthy cities
>implying skyrim is even united
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>>33476573
>Implying being butthurt about Lorkhan aka Shor is the same as being butthurt about Lorkhan aka Talos.
>>Elves would exist if not for the procreation of the Aedra in response to the sapping of their divine essence
>Implying the Thalmor bothered thinking this through.
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>>33476700
>and kill that Thalmor at the mouth of that dungeon for a free set

What dungeon? It's been a while since I played, can't remember anything.
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>>33468412
Even though I agree Skyrim belongs to the Nords the Altmer are the most qualified to rule it. They are the master race physically and mentally.
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Is rape in Skyrim legal?
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>>33476765
>Implying there wasn't ever a High King

you're thinking of the Kingdoms of High Rock.
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>>33476790
Forelhost, it has a dragon preist inside

>not killing him and giving that armor to your follower so you match
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>>33476765
>Implying military strength matters.
It's all down to who Demigod McMessiah chooses to join and win the war for within two weeks.
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>>33476777
kek

>the Thalmor lack impulse control
>explode Nirn

At least the Psijic order will stop them.
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>>33476844
south of Riften in those mountains
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>>33476792
>Qualified to rule
>Want to annihilate the universe
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>>33476792
Why not a senate?
What is with all these kingdoms and empires? Have we learned nothing from Star Wars?
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>>33476792
>physically

I'm not gonna argue with the mental part, but those scrawny bastards die like rats to Bretons.

And that's saying something.
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>>33476685
>not just killing everyone that comes near you

do you even OP two-handed?
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>>33476606
>Make them all immortal
No, that would be just the Altmer. They are the only ones the Thalmor deem noble enough (and Khajit aren't elves at all. And you can't infer anything from the race of the assassin. He's an ASSASSIN. Fuck, I would have killed Malborn if someone was paying me to do it
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>>33468412
>voting for imperial elves cuckolds
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>>33471427
he can tame dragons lol

why should he ever go to war? just send dragons and let them attack from above

skyrim belongs to the nords!
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>>33476912
>implying those faggots will do anything
They haven't done jack shit for Nirn since Artaeum sank. The least they couldh've done was take Sotha Sil with them, but they didn't even do that.
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>>33476606
>Khajiit
>loyalty

they're gypsies m8, they have no loyalty
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>>33477064
No, I use destruction magic to kill things because I onve leveled the entire Imperial City with a speed mage at level 22.
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>>33476929
They want to rule, not destroy. At-least all the Altmer governed by the empire.

>>33477032
Stats wise and lore wise they are superior. You can't argue with numbers.

>>33476945
Sure a senate would be fine too.
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>>33477067
Nope, every single elf. Even Khajit

The whole point is to make it so that man was never created and Shor never tricked the other Aedra into making Mundus.
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>>33468412
>http://strawpoll.me/2267274
Anyone Who Votes Imperial Sucks Israeli Cock.
Anyone Who Votes Stormcloak Sucks Palestinian Cock.
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Empire

Stormcloaks are a bunch of racist twats
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>>33476792
>What's a Snow Elf? What's a Dwemer?
They were there first. But since the Nords drove them off, it was their. And now its the Empire's. And when the Empire wins, it will still be theirs
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>>33477146
They adhere to the Mane in Elsweyr, friend. Sorta.
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>>33477146
Well, they do accredit the Thalmor with the restoration of the Moons. Which essentially saved their race.

So yeah, the cats are loyal to the high elves.
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>>33477146
Nigga, the Khajit literally believe that the Thalmor saved their moon god. They can't get enough of them.
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>>33477211
Everybody is racist.

Both in TES and IRL.
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>>33476816
Under Imperial law no. But under Nord law you can rape your sister, horse, or cow. That is the real Stormcloak angle
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>>33477211
>Stormcloaks are a bunch of racist twats
>being on /pol/

kek
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>>33477146
They're loyal to the Altmer, because they think the elves did some magic shit with their moon or something. The Khajiit are all drug addicts anyway, they'd be useless no matter who's side they were on.
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>>33477328
The point is, if you play any race other than human, you should side with the empire, because the stormcloaks hate you and your people.
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>>33477231
>implying the Altmer didn't use a shit ton of Illusion mages to hide the moon, wait awhile, then stop and say they brought back the moon to gain the Khajiit's loyalty
I doubt they all believe that story. I'd wager the Khajiit don't like them as much as everyone else.
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>>33477180
No, they want to destroy.
It's a common misconception that their goal is to conquer Tamriel.

http://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/1jxvd6/what_exactly_are_the_thalmors_goals_and_how_could/
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Hammerfell was able to fight off the dominion without help of a hero of the caliber of the Dragonborn. Skyrim is almost the farthest province away from the Summerset Isles their supply lines will buckle. They couldn't even beat Hammerfell and its the closest province! The Nords will push the mer into the sea, just like last time and Skyrim will be free.
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>>33477368
Well it's not like they harbor a bunch of Dunmer refugees in their capitol city or anything.
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>>33477369
Khajit, literally claimed to the moon because they heard it was made of cocaine.

They will believe anything.
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>>33475644
They probably already destroyed the Green tower. The White tower may have been reactivated after the Oblivion crisis but then again, it may have been shut down again after the Great War. But the Thalmor already lost. Alduin WAS the end of the world that they were looking for. Dragonborn defeated him before the Snow Tower was destroyed. Elves missed their chance
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>>33477457
And hate them.

>tfw your Dunmer self walks into the New Gnisis cornerclub in full imperial regalia after killing Ulfric.
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>>33477438
You forget that the closest province was a massive desert with a people born and breed to kill anyone and everyone anywhere and everywhere. The Nord are not the Redguard.
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>>33477483
The Amulet of Kings is gone.

White Gold Tower is permanently inactive, because each tower's power is tied to a stone.
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>>33477531
>All these faggots not knowing the Dunmer hate the Empire worse due to being abandoned in the Oblivion Crisis and the Red Year
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>>33477483
Alduin eating the world would just reset the cycle (which happens all the time).

Now it's amaranth or bust.
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So, who are the TES niggers, the Khajiit or the Argonians?
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>dis tred
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>>33477603
I know.

I just love the uniform, lorewise Stormcloak is the right choice and RPGwise a Dunmer should just stay out of the questline but I didn't want to leave any quest unfinished.
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GLORY TO THE NORDS! UNITED AGAINST THE ENEMY!
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>>33477621
So the Dragonborn has only allowed the Thalmor the time they need to try and break the chains binding Akatosh and Lorkhan.
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>>33477636
>implying it isn't the Orcs

Big, burly, dumb, and violent. Khajiit are gypsies, not sure what the Argonians are. Perhaps natives?
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>>33477457
>enter windhelm
>literally first overheard conversation is stormcloaks bitching about dunmer refugees
>kill ulfric stormcloak, talk to dunmer
>glad he's dead
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>>33477483
Is ada-mantia deactivated?
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>>33477723
The Dunmer are being dicks. They're the ones who started shit with the argonians and made Ulfric kick them out of the city. He's lucky he didn't kick out the Dunmer and give the grey quarter to Argonians.
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>>33477636
Argonians.

/r/ing that picture of a Dres slaver with a pet cliffracer and an Argonian skin hanging on his belt.
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>>33477636

Cats are just Gypsies.

Argonians are Cajun lizardhistfolk.
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781 imperials winning by1
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holy fucking DEAD FUCKING SPLIT
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>>33477636
Orcs.
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>>33477636
They both live in squalor, have terrible homelands full of threats, with civilization bits few and far between, they are the ones who mainly rob and steal inside the Empire, so they are both the nigger races. I would still turn around any second and plow a femgonian like a fucking Nord tiger
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>>33477211
>summerset isles for high elves
>valenwood for wood elves
skyrim for every race
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>>33477803
>>33477794
rigged
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>>33477835
Fucking Imperials.
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>>33476446
That's a meaningless fact that's the result of the writers to put time between the Great War and the events of Skyrim. It's like saying the Thalmor waited a whole 200 years after the Oblivion Crisis to strike the Empire therefore they're pussies. Now that the Alduin is gone and the Snow tower stands, the score will be settled between the Empire and Thalmor
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>>33477719
>argonians are barely evolved pond scum, always thieves and addicts
>orcs are militaristic and brutal, but deeply divided and scattered
argonians = basketball americans
orcs = central african warbands
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>>33477636

srsly?
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>>33477723
This is the equivalent of an immigrant praising the death of a high ranking politician that opposed immigration.
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>>33477835
or perhaps the game splits people THAT evenly
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>>33477890
redguards are a respectable race in TES. khajit steal, breed like crazy, and are mostly addicted to moon sugar/skooma.
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>>33477636
you know how orcs were made?

when boethia ate the god trinimac and then shat him out and he became malacath, everyone who used to follow trinimac turned into an orc. orcs are literal shitskins. orcs are nigs
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>>33477883
>argonians
>addicts
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>>33477883
>basketball americans
>entral african warbands

They're both niggers. Also,

>argonians are thieves and addicts

Pretty sure that's the Khajitt, m80.
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>>33477890
Redguards are more like Muslims.
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>>33468412
Holy shit, this will be narrow
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>>33477883
>Implying Argonians don't have a rich culture
>Implying Argonians didn't single handily annihilate any Oblivion Gates in Black Marsh

The only Argonians you've ever met were the ones at the bottom. Every Argonian not forced to work some humiliating job is actually rather wise and great to talk to. Once Blackmarsh is made, Argonians will be proven master race.
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>>33477989
Argonians are more like cold blooded water breathing Navy Seal assassins.
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>>33473233
sauce? that outfit is the perfect girlfriend gift
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>>33477883
>implying Argonians are not master race because 100% xenophobe sexiness
>implying you wouldn't fuck a master race xenophobe Argonian
shiggy my diggy
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>>33477993
No, the Redguard are more like pirates. Except a nation of pirates.
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>>33478024
Knows his shit. Khajit are the definitive nigs.
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>>33477989
Argonians actually are addicts.

They're completely dependent on magic tree-sap to live.
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I think the Empire is a clever analogue to ZOG in real life.
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Just 400 Nords laid waste to an entire city of Snow elves. Then the rest of them showed up and broke the Mer that attacked them over their knee like a little bitch so badly that the few ones left had to beg for a place to hide in the Dwemer realms. The nords are just as capable, if not more so, than the redguards in the art of war. Remember the only people who have stopped Skyrim from conquering their lands was the Dunmer with the help of the full Tribunal and their Dwemer allies. Last I checked the Tribunal is much weaker and the Dwemer don't exist.
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>>33478059
No, it just makes them stronger. They aren't dependent.
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>>33477187
How are Khajit elves?
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>>33478038
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>>33478024
No, the hist have rich culture.

The fact that occasionally they enslave the entire Argonian race and use them as foot-soldiers doesn't make Argonians any better.
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>>33468412
Ulfric is a power hungry faggot and he was helping the Thalmor.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Thalmor_Dossier:_Ulfric_Stormcloak
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>>33478059
Regardless, they aren't as niggery as the Orcs. They remind me more of natives - savage and primitive, but really into nature.
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>>33478046
And seem to be based on barbary pirates, that is Muslim, north African pirates working for the Ottoman empire.
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>>33478038
sure, i'd fuck one. but that doesn't turn them into non-niggers
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>>33478080
History is written by the victors, and TES is notorious for the unreliable Narrator.
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>>33478087
Khajit used to be shape-shifting wood-elves until Azura got pissed at them and magiced them into being cat people.

If creation were to be undone they would return to being just like the other elves.
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>>33478108
>Status: Asset (uncooperative)

Dumbass.
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Empire pulls ahead 51%
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>>33478084
No, they're completely reliant on it.

Without hist-sap they don't become humanoid and they can't reproduce without it. Ingesting as much as they do makes them completely connected with the hist and can be turned into a robotic superhero with no free will at a moment's notice.

They're like a bunch of heroin addict sleeper agents.
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>>33478103
The Hist are creators of the Argonians. That'd be like saying, "No, the Aedra have rich culture. The fact that they occasionally send mortals on great deeds doesn't make mortals any better".
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>implying 75% of the empire doesn't still worship Talos anyway
>implying the empire isn't getting ready to renew an assault on the Thalmor

the empire just needs a bit of time to raise another generation of kids to become soldiers and fuck shit up again

The thalmor elves live for a long time, but they die just as easily in combat.

What gives the empire the advantage is that they breed a fuckload faster
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Talos was a scumbag when he was mortal, and that was BEFORE he mantled a god known for inflicting mortality, suffering, and disease on humanity through trickery and deceit

Worshiping Talos is like worshipping the devil.
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>>33478179
Isn't that all of the written history in the entire game?
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>>33478108
>A Stormcloak victory is also to be avoided, however, so even indirect aid to the Stormcloaks must be carefully managed.

So you don't into reading comprehension huh?
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We're the Chosen People!
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>>33478259
>What gives the empire the advantage is that they breed a fuckload faster

This. The empire and nords are capable of creating massive legions of illiterate teenagers that will charge to their death high on skooma while yelling bucknaked. The endless brown tide from cyrodiil will wash away the golden-skinned racist oppressor along with their evil magic and culture.
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>>33478272
Every bit, yes. I like the TES plot because there's a minimum of two sides to every story, and rarely do they give you the exact one.
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>>33478248
Hist didn't create the Argonians, Argonians are mutant lizards that became that way from ingesting copious amounts of hist sap.

>That'd be like saying, "No, the Aedra have rich culture. The fact that they occasionally send mortals on great deeds doesn't make mortals any better".
The difference is Mer actually achieve things of their own volition.
The only time Argonians get anything done is when the hist starts piloting them like machines.
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>>33478268
TIDF please.

The races wouldn't even exist without Lorkhan.
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>be the last Dragonborn, and the first Dragonborn in many years
>automatically gives you a fucking big claim to be Emporer
>you can't marry Elisif the Hawt

fuck you Todd
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>>33477723
I like the Empire and all that, but that is pretty niggardly anon.
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>>33478272
No, TES writers have a horrible habit of turning around a couple of years later and saying
>Actually, you know this thing that was canon since Daggerfall? Welp, not anymore.
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>>33478298
>We're the Chosen People!

The only people who think this are Nords and Dunmer. Thalmor upper-echelon dogma holds that creation is flawed and mortals are specifically cursed by the demiurge Lorkhan.
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>>33477890
>implying the Redguard aren't based as fuck
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>>33478268
elenwen pls go

no more of your mer lies
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>>33472179
Anyone have the original image of this for /pol/?
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>>33478352
>The races wouldn't even exist without Lorkhan.

What sounds better to you:

Wallow in shit and suffer and live a miserable existence before dying and doing it all over again

or

Live eternally as a pure spirit freed from the constraints of mortality and time.
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>Implying the Reach doesn't belong to the forsworn

These Stormcloaks, shiggydiggy
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>>33475138
back2reddit
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>>33478333
Argonia is documented time and time again to be too dangerous for non-Argonians to venture into.

There's literally no history (so far) from the inner Kingdom, and the Empire only hold posts on the coasts and Stormhold due to inability to get inside. There's a Kingdom there.
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>>33478108
this has already been discussed many times. theres room for the contrary to be true.
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Argonians are the best warriors and could fuck up every other race in a war.
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>elves

I see you haven't gotten over a Nord becoming a god yet, you poor assblasted bug-eyed fucks.
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>>33478369
It's foolish to believe the TES games will allow you an event where the hero can't be vaugely remembered. To Bethesda, every player's storyline is canon, and to have a noble marriage would definitely hold documentation.
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>>33478446
If you want to go into the merits of change versus stasis, I'm not sure I'm qualified to discuss that with you.
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>>33478446
The trick to existence is to adapt to the reality of existence.

Veloth and Malacath know what's up.
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Friendly reminder that the Stormcloaks are shit-tier (no badass bretons, no imperials, no dunmer (who are awesome unlike real life niggers) no redguards (who are awesome unlike real life niggers) and only Nords) and the only way they'd ever win would be with the player's help, while if the player never intervened, the Empire would win without a doubt

Also friendly reminder that the Hero of Kvatch/Champion of Cyrodiil is Sheogorath
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Fuck imperials with their false dichotomy of the Empire or the Dominion "wins"

A loose confederacy of independent provinces would be more then a match for the Dominion
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>>33478485
Only if the Hist wanted them to. The Hist only seems to care about BM.
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>>33468412
When I was a libertarian I would support the Stormshits, but as I grew to appropriate the Roman Empire more, and empires in general, I now support the Empire.
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>>33478523
>not molding reality to your existence

Lrn to into CHIM
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>>33478571
>Implying CHIM isn't just tuning your own existence to the ultimate reality of the godhead

Shiggy
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>there are people in this thread who actually support the failed Cyrodiilic state impersonating the glorious Septim Empire

It's like you all drink milk instead of mead. It's like you want to be slaves to the Thalmor, a gnostic omnicide cult who want to destroy the universe and erase mankind from the timeline in their attempt at becoming gods. It's like you don't realize that the lands of mankind have a better chance against the Thalmor without being controlled by the "Empire", given that the "Empire" is in massive debt and has been completely infiltrated by Thalmor agents.
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>>33478528
Then why was the war at a complete standstill?

Here's a hint, the Empire allows them free movement within Skyrim.
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>>33478568
Whoa, are you me? Are you a reactionary with nationalistic elements?
And what age did you grow out of libertarianism?
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>>33478562

The hist is only a way to channel the will of their entire race. The argonians work as a hivemind.
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Imperials = 'murricans
Nords = aryans
High elves = jews
Dunmer = nigger jews
Orcs = niggers
Redguard = sand niggers
Khajiit = gypsies
Argonians = reptilian master race
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>>33478619
>implying it isn't just a dream
>what is lucidity
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Nordic, Redguard and Dunmer forces pushed the Argonians out of most of Morrowind

Redguards pushed the Altmer out of Hammerfell

Nords pushed Imperials out of Skyrim

>b-b-but muh e-Empire
fuck off
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>>33478654
>Dunmer = nigger jews

DAS RITE NWAH
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What's with all these retards thinking the Empire and the Thalmor are allies?

They're not. They're in an unsteady as fuck ceasefire.

The Empire is poising to strike back at the Thalmor. The fucking emporer says so himself. Shit, he says the Empire would have still won if they kept the war going, but he didn't want to win a war if it meant more than half the population would be dead.

You think there are no high elves in the Thalmor secretly loyal to the empire? Hah, that's funny.

That's why when you go kill the Emporer, he doesn't really give that much of a shit. He's old as fuck and he knows he's got it coming, but he also knows he's got shit set up so that the Empire is going to live on long after his death.
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>>33478683
>Implying that isn't exactly what I'm implying
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>>33478654
>orcs
>niggers
Orcs are respectable people.
Argonians were enslaved and a bestrace shitskins.

>Capatcha: near ygnol
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>>33478654
i dont know man. i think khajit are like some crazy transylvanian nomad somethings. the mane and everything. or maybe i just think maiq is funny as shit.
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>>33478756

But the orcs are literally the shit of a god.
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>They're in an unsteady as fuck ceasefire.
>allows the Thalmor free movement within the empire
>allows the Thalmor to imprison and kill people with impunity
>not thinking the Empire is a puppet state of the Dominion
k
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>>33478741

>ceasefire

It's called a surrender, when the religion that keeps reality stable is outlawed as the terms of the "ceasefire", when the terms of the "ceasefire" were the original goals of the war's aggressor.
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>>33478749
implying chim isnt a retarded backwards something something that noone has a good handle on because its inventors wanted it to remain esoteric.
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>>33478798
pre malacath they were fine. post trinimac they were niggers.
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>>33478741
No, it's that the Empire allows the Thalmor to murder and suppress the worshipers of Talos.

They just sign the White-Gold Concordant (which were an agreement to the terms the Thalmor demanded that actually started the Great War), lie down and take High Elf dick up the ass.
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>>33478808
>He doesn't understand CHIM
>He hasn't achieved CHIM IRL

git gud
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>>33478806
>religion that keeps reality stable

Doesn't work like that. Reality existed before Talos was even born. No one is stopping the nords from worshipping Shor or whoever the fuck. The fact is that these are Nords following the bastardized imperial pantheon that are rebelling. There are plenty of pro-Imperial Nords who invoke Shor instead of Talos and they aren't getting rounded up or taken away by Thalmor.
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The Empire lost all legitimacy when they outlawed the worship of Talos and left their provinces to fend for themselves
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someone is using bots to add stormclock votes look now
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>>33478749
>implying chim doesn't imply chim implying chim doesn't imply chim
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>>33478654
Imperials = Romans
Nords = Scandinavians
Breton = Celts
Orcs = Mongols
Khajiit = Gypsies
Dunmer = Middle Eastern
Altmer = Jews
Bosmer = North Americans
Argonians = Mesoamericans
Redguard = North African

Asians aren't on this because they're the various races of Akavir. If you read the lore, you'll find that there are even more races, like the Sea Elves, which might be Polynesians.
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>Implying CHIM isn't a plot by Mephala to control the behavior and beliefs of powerful people
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Someone's botting up the stormcloak votes.
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>>33478921
What's Boris doing up so late?
I guess he missed rigging things.
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>>33478912
It actually does work like that.

Talos is the aspect of Lorkhan, the creator of Nirn.
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>Daily Reminder that the Reach belongs to the Forsworn
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Why did the Empire surrender when they were winning and had absolutely no reason to?
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Argonians are the Aryans of TES

>implying hitler wouldn't dump the germans for a race of hivemind tree lizards
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>>33478912

The reality where non-mer live is dependent on the worship of Talos
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>Stormcloaks were at 49% and Imperial was at 51%
>some butthurt stormcloak faggot starts botting up stormcloak votes

can't handle that you've picked the wrong side, faggot?
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>>33478946
>being this desperate
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>>33468412
Nords are the shit flinging niggers of Tamriel. The whole stormcloak rebellion is just a category 5 chimpout.
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>>33478946
>being a Empire sympathizer
fuck off
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>>33478912
Not how it works.

Talos is Shor.
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>>33478976
Because winning a war isn't very satisfying when 80% of your army has to die in the process

The emporer outright tells you
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>>33478912
Imperial propagandists and the Thalmor alike want you to think they want to "undo reality" or whatever, but the fact is that it's purely material. They want to get rid of Talos worship to get rid of the cornerstone of the empire. If they wanted to undo reality there are far more effective means than banning worship of a god that only diehard imperialists care about.
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>>33478932
If anything, the Sload are the only Jews.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Sload

Altmer I'd attribute more to the theoretical people of Atlantis.
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>>33478932

How about Dwemer?
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>>33478808

CHIM is esoteric but it's understandable, especially if you understand real-world esoteric ideas enough to compare and constrast.

It is closest to the Carlyle/Evola idea of the hero, knowing the true names of the forces of the universe and transcending them. Well, that's what mantling is, at least. CHIM is the knowledge that you can do this, and the knowledge of how it works in the Elder Scrolls Universe.

The Elder Scrolls cosmology is Gnostic, except the Demiurge(Lorkhan) is the good guy. It's also related to Hinduism and Buddhism because it describes everything as a dream. CHIM is understanding the possibility of Gnosis in the Elder Scrolls universe, and coupling that with the knowledge of the specific routes one must take to achieve that Gnosis.
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OH SHIT, EMPIRE GETTING BTFO
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>>33478946
It's obviously the Thalmor.
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>>33479029
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhic_victory

Empire confirmed for pussies.
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>>33479023
If that is the case, why don't the Nords just worship Shor to get around the prohibitions. Afterall, they are the same right?

Oh wait, that IS what they do. Your "WE NEED TALOS" bit is bullshit. Removing Talos won't remove humanity, it removes the empire.
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>>33473267
>Stupid foot solider cunt
>The entire Empire
Retard detected.
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Ayleid descendant high elf here.
I chose the storm cloaks
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>>33479029
>believing the emperor
The bloodiest battle was already over, all they had to do was followup and do one final push and i would have been done. You know.. like how Hammerfell did just that... by themselves
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>>33479054
>knowing the true names of the forces of the universe

Actually, this is Thu'um. Chim is more of a head thing.
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>>33479023
shor is lorkhan you fuckin cunt.
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>Siding with the Empire after they tried to kill you
How can someone be this beta.

So much for free movement lol
>cross into homeland
>get beheaded
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The Reman Empire fell to a Son of Skyrim. The Septim Empire can suffer the same fate.
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>>33479077
THE DRAGONBORN HAS ENTERED THE FRAY
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>>33478912

Except Talos is an upgrade to Shor. Talos was a man(and eventually multiple men) who transcended the human ancestor god Shor(aka Lorkhan, the demiurge).

Talos has an advantage over Shor in that living beings take up his mantle, and so he can act as a living being and become incarnate in more and more living beings. He is a god that literally holds the universe together through his link in blood and spirit to living humans.

Shor has always existed as an entity but his mortal form dies: he only is at full power in the aether. Talos is the fulfillment of Shor, because as long as Talos is a god, Shor's plan for a stable universe continues.

Shor created the world, and Talos transcended Shor while remaining human to become the glue that holds the universe together.
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doesn't even matter what shitty arguments you have for the stormcloaks, the empire losing skyrim means that the dominion can steamroll the empire and rule everything
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>>33479207
>septim

There is no septim empire. It was destroyed by a elf dragonborn named Mankar Camoran. The current empire is the mede empire.
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>>33479138

That is correct. Thu'um is where you know there true names. Mantling is more where you know the true names of the hero and his feats that you're trying to become through emulation, while CHIM is the intellectual aspect behind it all.
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>>33479160
Straight up.

And so is Talos.
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True Nords honor Talos by preserving his Empire.
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>>33468412
If you are not playing glorious Mujahadeen, prostrating in prayer toward Rihad 5 times daily, and slaughtering the infidels, then you're playing Skyrim wrong.
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we need /g/ to make us a numidium to drive out the thalmor kikes
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>Not following Talos that achieved Chm and created the Empire and became Top God
why are imperials such pussies

Cyrodiil would still be a rotting jungle if it wasnt for Talos and this is how the Imperials repay him
fuck
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>>33479104
Not how it works.

The Thalmor aren't stupid, they know full well that Talos is a god and that he's Shor. The reason they're going on a crusade on Talos worship is because Talos is a tower.
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>>33479231
It doesn't matter. If people worship Shor instead then he fulfills the same purpose. Shor existed countless eons before Talos, and yet reality didn't "end".

Stop falling for the lie that "Talos = Reality". The truth is that "Talos = The Empire".
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>>33468412
As much as I hate to admit it, the Imperials should control Skyrim. Talos himself founded the Empire. Just because the Empire is being a little bitch right now doesn't mean they have to stay that way. It's obvious that it is easiest t odestroy Thalmor scum via Imperial might than under direction of a pawn of the elves themselves. Besides, signs point to the Dragonborn being an incarnation or avatar of Talos, which would mean the Dragonborn should side with the Empire and lead them into a new age of glory, whilst also freeing everyone from Alduin's dumb ass cycle.
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>>33479290
im trying to wrap my head around this. is it chim? this is like the baptist christians when backed into a logical corner spouting 'well it came from god. god did it. mysterious ways'
fuck off
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>>33479301
>True Nords honor Talos by preserving his Empire.
>Empire banned the worship of Talos
welp, looks the the Empire killed itself. time for independence
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So much TIDF in this thread.
>No Talos worship means no Talos
>No Talos means no Dragonborn
>No Dragonbonr means no one to protect the Snow Tower from Alduin
>No Snow Tower means no Mundus
The elves think this will free them of their mortal bonds (just like Gnostics think the demiurge is evil because hurr durr physical existence= enslavement) This would destroy Nirn and everything in it because it had its own divinity (Heart of Lorkhan) and that is what kept the Aldmer alive. Their divinity is gone, that shit isn't coming back
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>>33479333
>The reason they're going on a crusade on Talos worship is because Talos is a tower.

>THEY ARE GOING AFTER THE TOWER
Not this bullshit again. It's already been shown that they aren't after the towers. The towers are a red herring.
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>>33478881
fuck off
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>>33473026
What is CHIM?
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>>33479307
>Scimitar
One of the shittiest weapons in the game.
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If talos isnt real then how come his blessing are?
check and mate mer scum
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>>33479041
>theoretical people

>>33479052
The Dwemer would be the Phoenician/Canaanite people who had a nice thing going before the Chimer (mudshit Hebrews) came in and beat them into submission. It works that way because the Dwemer went on to get assblasted by men (not mer) of some kind just like the Phoenicians went on to get genocided by the Romans.
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>>33479366
Pretty much.

Talos used a combination of CHIM and mantling in order to achieve godhood. Basically he became so like Shor that the universe glitched and couldn't distinguish them so they became the same person.
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Out of my way you primitive savages.
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>>33479375
Are you a moron? Do you know Anything about the Thalmor? Alduin is the EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT THEY WANT.

Alduin = Destruction and Reincarnation
Thalmor = Transcending the cycle

Alduin is the very embodiment of the system Lorkhan has set up.
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>>33479307
That screenshot looks like someone tried to play TES: Skyrim on a toaster.

>Reach = forsworn
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>>33479369
I suggest a Soviet-Union-like Skyrim with blackjack and horkers then.
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>betrays his best friend so that he can become a god
>proceeds to bone his best friend's widow(who helped him with the betrayal)
>writes his massive ego into everyone else's pantheon
>for Redguards specifically, makes a bunch of their kings suffer from male pregnancy
>can change his sex at will
>"marries" Molag Bal (and later Jubal al-Sul in c0dA) in the form of a woman
>fights by transforming his penis into a spear and thrusting it into his enemies

Is Vivec a degenerate?
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>>33479377
I'd like to see proof of this.
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>>33479377
>The anchors of reality are a red herring

no u
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>>33479375

This nigga knows his shit.
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>>33479429
The Scimitar is fucking hardcore.

It's as powerful as the ebony sword and you get it way earlier. Not even to mention those twin pirate scimitars that are in that DLC.
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>>33479441
And Ayleids would be the people of the Caucasus and the Khazars before they turned into the High Elves which are obviously Jews.
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>>33473987
Eww, /v/ posters.
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>>33479484
It's funny because most of what he did is no worse than what Tiber Septim did. Yet Vivec is a "degenerate" and Talos is a "pure righteous aryan warrior who didn't do nothin wrong other than delete his political opponents out of existence and betray all his comrades"
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REACHMEN STRONK! REMOVE NORD FROM PREMISES!
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>>33479325
Vehk achieved CHIM too.
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>>33479451

Get fucked, profligate.
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>>33479484
Probably.
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>>33479408

Read the thread.

>>33479459

Alduin isn't what Lorkhan wants. The aspect of the Time-Dragon(Aka-Tusk) that is closest to transcending the Demiurge(Lorkhan) is Akatosh.

Alduin wants the world to end, Thalmor want the world to end for humans and for themselves to ascend, Dunmer and Nords want the world to go on and everyone to have a chance to ascend.
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>>33479586
Vehk achieved Zero-Sum and tipped his fedora out of existence
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>>33479459
>hurr it was all that tricky Lorkhan
>implying the gods didn't agree with the plan for Mundus then go back on it when they realized the consequences
>implying the elves don't think the very existence of the towers is what is keeping them mortal
Sure, if you asked a Thalmor he'd tell you Alduin isn't what they want but that's because Thalmor don't actually understand shit and don't know that Alduin was their last shot
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>>33479441
>The Dwemer would be the Phoenician/Canaanite people who had a nice thing going before the Chimer (mudshit Hebrews) came in and beat them into submission. It works that way because the Dwemer went on to get assblasted by men (not mer) of some kind just like the Phoenicians went on to get genocided by the Romans.

Ugh. They're Babylonians, fuckwit. Remember that important book in morrowind "The Hanging Gardens"? Direct shout-out to the hanging gardens of Babylon.
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>>33479448
and then his penis turned inside out and a large otter made of easy cheese performed sexual things to his left ear and right elbow. following this it expired and crackers everywhere honked 4 times, while growing meatball sandwiches out their eyes. then a gigantic salamander rose out of vivecs forehead and began miming a desperate canoe riseing up and then sideways like a twinkie with a ballsack soup storm inside and twisted like a rope extending into shors asshole. then a lot of litigation went down. the thalmor became the thalless and began binging on skooma while the orcs grew tails. the tails became intertwined and forged a new playmate for optimus prime and his megazord family. the waxing of khajit was upon them and everyone was secreting grape flavored things.
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>>33479586
>You will never be ruled over by a tribunal of gods that want only to protect and help their people
>Instead you are stuck with an asshole who kills people for petty reasons using a super robot
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>>33479748
Beautiful, Michael Kirkbade.
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>>33475111

Fucking Vivec.
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>yfw you realize the most successful and professional thread on /pol/ is about a game
>yfw when fake politics are more complex and interesting than real ones
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>>33479660
>Thalmor want the world to end for humans and for themselves to ascend

Except that makes no sense because pre-creation there was no distinction between "elf" and "human". These distinctions didn't exist until creation.

The Thalmor cannot "ascend" without Humans also ascending.
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>>33479757
>the tribunal are gods
>the tribunal care about anyone other than themselves
kek of the day right there
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>>33479484
>>"marries" Molag Bal (and later Jubal al-Sul in c0dA) in the form of a woman

Coda isn't canon, but he doesn't marry Molag Bal, he just gets raped repeatedly for like 80 days.
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>>33479670
>don't know that Alduin was their last shot

Except no. Because Alduin starts the cycle over again. All the knowledge on how to escape is lost and everyone starts over from scratch. This is the worst possible result for the Thalmor or any being that lives longer than a fruit fly.

You are literally shilling for a god that created a massive repeating concentration camp/lab where lesser spirits are used as guinea pigs in his own attempt to escape.

>No no, goy, you can't do that! only the chosen one, Lorkhan, can escape. The rest of us have to play by the rules!"
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>>33479748
>>33479748
>>33479748
forgot gif
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Stormcloak, Imperial, doesn't fucking matter. All that matters is that Lorkhan/Talos/Dragonborn is able to stop the fucking Thalmor from fucking dismantling time itself.
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>>33479727
>Babylonians
>Canaanites
>not the same people
They didn't call Cyrus "Zyklon C" the Canaanite Conqueror for nothing, anon. He came in, said their hanging ziggurat gardens were a shit, and mowed them the fuck down with his cavalry. The Hebrews thought we was the Messiah, he removed Canaanite so well.

Do you even Assyrian Empire?
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>>33479850
>Our lady of mercy doesn't want to shower the world in love and mercy except when the Nerevarine is around
>Vivec didn't save the world . . . twice.
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>>33479818

I'm not talking about the reality that elves are the children of Auriel and humans are the children of Lorkhan and therefore they both are subgradients(emanations, in gnostic terms) of gods.

I'm talking about the actual Thalmor plan, which states "To kill Man is to reach Heaven." Thalmor want to erase mankind from existence so that nobody can mantle Lorkhan like Talos did. That way, they can undo the world. They become gods, while humans lose their individual identity and are absorbed into Lorkhan who no longer is the demiurge of any material universes.

That's the Thalmor theory, at least. How well it would actually work, however...
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>>33479850
They were gods. and gods don't die permanently. The Tribunal did great works for the people of morrowind. They helped immensely. They care more about the people of morrowind than Tiber Septim or Azura.
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>>33479901
Except that the towers cannot again be raised.
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>>33479956
If he was so great, how was the Nerevarine able to kill him? He just masturbated his ego inside his meteorite.
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I think the next game is probably going to be set on the summerset isles on a quest to destroy the thalmor inside-out.

In skyrim, all faction questlines will happen simultaneously a-la daggerfall, which means that Titus Mede will be dead and that the Psijic will be in the possesion of the eye of Magnus (and possibly intervene in the fight against the thalmor), but also the empire is going to be weak and politically divided, which could cause the Thalmor to break truce early and rush for a careless assault on the imperial city and several provinces.

Black arrows represent Dominion movement, Skyrim (blue) should come down on the imperial province through bruma and the colovian highlands after securing their borders, as to engage the weakened Thalmor in a surprise attack.

Red represent Imperial resistance against the thalmor, obviously most will rush to fortify the Imperial city itself, and the thalmor will be parked against the imperials there for a little while, if the nords are timely, they'll be joined by whatever's left of the the other cities and towns in the province in their push to pin the thalmor down against their own siege.

Darker blue/purple/whaterver represents the posibility of cooperation between High Rock, Skyrim and/or Hammerfel. Since High Rock will still be part of the empire, they will have to make a choise, Either they bolster the ranks/provide funds and resources to armies fighting the Thalmor or just shut themselves in and hope for the best. I can see some political turmoil between those who would want to help the empire and those who see their Imperial duty gone as they are cut off from it border-wise.

Hammerfell would likely move in force to the Isles and raid Thalmor docks, however I see them also going for both Kvatch and Anvil [cont.]
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>>33479950
Canaanites are from the Levant, Babylonians are from Babylon. Not even sure what to make of the rest or your post.
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>>33480022
Because CHIM
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>Ignoring that the true victims in all of this were the forsworn

Shiggydiggy
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>>33480022
>Vivec
>Dead
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>>33480089
see
>>33479748
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>>33479901
Have you ever seen Conan the Barbarian? The old one?

You know the scene with the grindstone, the wheel? Nirn is the Wheel, Conan is the one who escapes.
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>>33479983
Seht and Ayem both die permanently
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>>33479983

>gods don't die permanently

Exactly. The Tribunal became real gods because they became eternal. They made a lasting impact on the cosmology. Disabling the Heart of Lorkhan made them lose their powers, and makes their mortal form die out. Since their mortal form is the impetus of their divine form's actions, their divine form also loses its ability to make further acts as a god that have not already been set up by fate.

But even though their mortal form dies, they still have places reserved in the Aether that would have to be removed through a separate Event to kill them permanently.

Otherwise, someone with access to godhood and the proper level of CHIM could just mantle one of them back into the material world.
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While we're posting maps, here's a post-Great War political map. It's the most accurate one I could find.
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>>33479901
Where the fuck does it ever say restart? Is that some shit the Greybeards say? And what cycle are you talking about? Going all the way back to the void? Because unless that's what you mean (and the towers don't have that power) you'd only be resetting things to before the creation of Mundus. The gods would thus be unaffected and have no reason to make the same mistake twice
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>>33480208
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>>33480208
Morrowind is no longer part of the Empire. the Emperor said fuck off after Red Mountain exploded
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>>33480273
boethiah too.
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>>33480279
It's still a de jure part of the empire even though the empire has literally no military presence and almost no influence.
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>>33479321
>numidium
Blasphemy allowed only by Talos because he himself is an incarnation of Lorkhan
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>>33480208
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>>33480279
I don't think so. I read up on the post-Oblivion pre-Skyrim lore and I didn't read anything about the Empire getting rid of Morrowind after the Red Year. Source?
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>>33480208
Mournhold isn't in Black Marsh.
Elsweyr is in the Dominion.
About half of Skyrim is independent.
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>>33480211

Alduin can eat gods too. But gods are powerful enough emanations of the Godhead that they can retain their memories between kalpas.

Mortals, on the other hand, get wiped. In fact, mortal species are bizarrely different between kalpas, based on which gods are most involved in creating the mortal world that time around.

It IS possible for mortals to retain their forms between kalpas, but they have to do really weird stuff and have really weird life cycles to do it. Sloads and Argonians have survived Alduin. Dreughs did to some extent, but came back as animals whereas before they were a sapient race.
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>>33480080
>Not even sure what to make of the rest of your post.
And you called me fuckwit. Before the mudshits came up from the south, the people of the Levant, Palestine, and Mesopotamia were the same. They organized in city states and later empires under the same monolithic culture. That's what I was referring to with the Neo-Assyrian Empire thing.

The monotheistic nomad Hebrews of Sinai came up out of the desert and conquered the southern bunch of the Semitic people and absorbed and scattered the Canaanite Phoenicians, and they later became Carthaginians. But original Semitic peoples of the Levant, Palestine, and Mesopotamia are all of the same stock. Subjugated by almost every empire that has been on the planet, they are now almost indistinguishable from the mudshits.
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>>33480364
>It's still a de jure part of the empire
No its not as the Emperor by decree released his grasp of it like he did Hammerfell
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>>33480043
>>33480043
Hammerfell would want to annex both cities as they see the empire gone, If the nords and redguards become allies, the natural movement for hammerfell would be to cut Thalmor reinforcements to mainland completely by hitting them at home and cutting the fastest sea-route.

Im counting that the Redguards can actually cut off Altmer airships too, which Im sure they can.

Meanwhile we have turmoil in both Valenwood and Elsweyr, They're part of the dominion, but both provinces have important dissidence within and they'll strike at Dominion structure there and have their own mini-civil war, the thalmor will demand support from both and they'll likely just get small ammounts of soldiers but very little supplies.

This leaves us only with the Argonians and the Dunmer, anyone have any imput on those?
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>>33480470
Source?
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>>33479459
This is so wrong...
Alduin exists to create kalpas. Thalmor want to destroy time itself and essentially end all possibility for life cause they think it will let them be in heaven without those filthy men. It's literally like the Muslims who blow themselves up to go to heaven where there are no Jews
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>>33480419
Black Marsh didn't take all of Morrowind, just the southern part. Anequina and Pellitine are client states of the Aldmeri Dominion.
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>>33480390
Fuck numidium, let's build Akulakhan. Talos has a physical celestial form, so if he is an incarnation of Lorkhan it could be used to power Akulakhan. We just gotta find some dwarves, they could totally make it happen.

Or just seriously break the dragon and grab the Heart before it is destroyed.
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>>33480547
Jews can go to Muslim heaven.
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>>33480464
>But original Semitic peoples of the Levant, Palestine, and Mesopotamia are all of the same stock.

But that's wrong, fuckwit. They spoke different languages, had different pantheons, and had very different material cultures.
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The Dunmer were given Solsthiem by the High King of Skyrim. I'd say they would be willing to look the other way while the Dominion get thrashed. I honestly don't think the Argonians care.
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>>33480436
I know what the kalpas are but I thought it was a player theory. Are they actually canon?
Regardless, there is no way the Thalmor know (the only people who might would be Psijic Monks) so they wouldn't know that's what Alduin actually does
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>>33480572

>We just gotta find some dwarves

Their souls all merged to become Numidium. There's only one dwarf that we know of who didn't get absorbed into the Brass God, and he was tainted by the Divine Disease of Dagoth Ur.
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>>33480432
>Mournhold isn't in Black Marsh.
It is now.
>Elsweyr is in the Dominion.
It's 2 client states of the Dominion.
>About half of Skyrim is independent.
The map is pre-Skyrim Civil War
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>>33480677

Kalpas are canon. There is mention of Pelinal being able to remember something from a previous kalpa, I forget which lore text exactly. Also, Paarthurnax talks about them in Skyrim's main quest.
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>>33480693
If based Yagrum survived, there may be others, still wandering plains of oblivion. Maybe they had colonies or research stations on other Oblivion planes? Hell, maybe they found a derelict battlespire in oblivion and fixed that shit up.

Also, based Divayth Fyr did find a cure for corprus, so maybe he cured Yagrum? I don't know if thats canon though.
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>>33480664
The archaeological record disagrees with you. Maybe you're thinking of the Hittite invaders? All of the Mesopotamian peoples used the same writing, had the same architecture, and we absorbed and easily integrated in the various empires to come out of the various city-states of the region before they were steamrolled by Zyklon C himself.

Calling me fuckwit really backs up your point with the much needed emotional touch. Its almost as if you're taking a historical debate personally.
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>>33480474
Dunmer are keeping their heads down. They're weak and probably won't do a think until Morrowind is built up.

Black Marsh won't do anything.
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>>33480693
and he's probably dead by now.

>inb4 Divaith Fyr, Yagrum, Vistha-Kai,And Divayth's daughters are havinng inter-dimensional adventures and they haven't aged a day

It can happen, I can dream it.
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>>33480769
>Pelinal Whitestrake

HA

The construct of war, the daemon of butchery and the bane of the Ayleids. I'm not surprised he knew the time before time, as he was sent by the Aedra.
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>>33480436
>Sloads and Argonians have survived Alduin.

I think it was the Hist that survived, the Argonians are more like tools/agents to the Hist it seems.

>Dreughs did to some extent, but came back as animals whereas before they were a sapient race.

Fuck, is that what happened to them? How horrible. Where did one find this out?
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>>33477890
You must be one of those Liberals who thinks race is based on skin colour
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REMOVE N'WAH remove n'wah
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>>33480474
Dunmer are the most natural Allies of the Nords. The Nords gave them Solstheim after Red Mountain exploded, and let their refugees into Skyrim. The Nords along with the Redguards also helped to push most Argonian forces out of central Morrowind .

Hemmerfell along with Skyrim and Morrowind would be unstoppable.
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>>33480707
>It is now
It isn't, Mournhold was destroyed and the Kingdom of Morrowind is still trying to rebuild it. They couldn't do that had the Argonians taken it.
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>>33480879
>All of the Mesopotamian peoples used the same writing

Yes, but the Levant isn't in mesopotamia now is it?

>had the same architecture

Show me a single ziggurat in the Levant.

Again, you're just wrong fuckwit. If you knew anything about archaeology you would know that the spoken and written languages were different and the material culture, namely pottery styles (which is incredibly important in archaeology) are completely different. I'm calling you fuckwit because this is 4chan, sack up or gtfo if it triggers you.
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>>33480693
>he was tainted by the Divine Disease of Dagoth Ur.

He probably got the cure, though, what it would do for him in his state is questionable, but at least we know he's probably immortal.... assuming he survived Red Year and the Crysis.

Somehow I imagine him trapsing through the realms inside of a Hyperdimensional Puzzle Box like some sort of Dr. Where with a Tonal Spanner.
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>>33481076
Source? I thought the Argonians took it and the new capital of Morrowind is Blacklight.
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>>33480896
Divayth is like 6000 years old or some shit, and his "daughters" are really his clones so they've got some time ahead of them too. Divayth keeps portals to oblivion/battlespires handy for no particular reason, so I'm going to choose to believe they're out their still.
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>>33468412
Final score, Stormcloaks 924, Imperials 566

SKYRIM BELONGS TO THE NORDS
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>>33480960
The Dreughs were/are sentient beings. When Akaviri forces invaded Tamriel, Vivec made an alliance with Dreugh kingdoms.

I think it might be the same as giants though. They were told to be on roughly the same footing as the Nords when they came over from Atmora, but something happened, and they became tribal.
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>>33481195
buuuuulllllshit
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>>33481189
The Capital is whichever Great House is the strongest. House Inodril is based in Mournhold and thus was the Capital.

Now that House Redoran is the strongest, the Capital is Blacklight
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>>33481189
The capital is Blacklight but the former lands of Mournhold are still within Morrowind, they switched capitals because the Argonians sacked Mournhold but they didn't hold it.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mournhold

>Around a year later, Mournhold was sacked by the invading Argonians of Black Marsh and Morrowind's capital was moved to Blacklight.[3] Mournhold was still being rebuilt in 4E 201, a shadow of its former self. Mournhold Temple was renovated and the last traces of Almalexia were removed.[4] Plaza Brindisi Dorom now houses a large building House Indoril uses to accommodate the new priests and pilgrims who come to pay their respects at the temple.[4]
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>>33481195
>Rebel Alliance

u wot m8?
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>>33481189
>the Argonians took it and the new capital of Morrowind is Blacklight.
Yep, last paragraph:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Dragonborn:Adril_Arano
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>>33481189
>>33481253
Argonians raided the South, but only occupied some land pushing their border more North. Most of mainland Morrowind was affected, but only traditional Argonian lands were rclaimed
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>>33481253
I am still calling bullshit on red mountain destroying the telvanni isle. Fuck you Bethesda. 100% telvanni morrowind could fuck up the thalmor any fucking day.
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>>33480588
Only those prior to the prophet Isa. Similarly, Christians prior to Muhammed are allowed in.
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>>33481345
The Eruption didnt kill them but the slave uprising did kill all in House Telvanni
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>>33481307
It says it was sacked, not conquered.

>been that way ever since Mournhold was sacked by the Argonians.

This is the same thing said in the lore for Mournhold.
>>33481279
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>>33481047
>Dunmer are the most natural Allies of the Nords

I wouldn't put it like that, but you're right, if by some miracle, the Dunmer can be persuaded into helping they would make a pretty legendary Removal of the Altmer, which would drive them back to Summerset.

Once they fall back, they'll have to worry about defending themselves from a unified Dunmer-Redguard-Nord offense on Alinor.


Then it's a matter of wating for Ulfric to crown himself emperor over the "great victory of mankind against the Thalmor menace" He'll be hailed as a hero upon his return to the Imperial city.

The new Tamrielic empire would most likely just be Skryim+ downsized Cyrodiil for a while and then Ulfric will push for High Rock.
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>>33481378
Nope, if you are a Christian or a Jew living right now it's possible to go to Muslim heaven.

As well as this Muslims believe that up until shortly before Muhammad Christians and Jews were Muslms but the teachings gradually got corrupted,

>Verily, those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in Allaah and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.”
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>>33481279
Do we know were the new border is?
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>>33481383
House Telvanni are still around, bro.

You meet some of them in Skyrim.
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>>33481345
I highly doubt, and am almost positive, House Telvanni stand almost unphased. We saw that the College of Winterhold was left virtually untouched while Winterhold, once a mighty city, fell around it. The Telvanni islands are brimming with powerful mages and could easily have protected themselves.

This is further planted by Neloth being found on Solstheim and basically promising he'd induct you a member once he got back to Morrowind when he was finished. Neloth, a high ranking member, speaks nothing bad happening and only good things of the Telvanni's place.

I'm 100% House Telvanni is unphased. The only reason they're not the head of the Council is because most of their members don't give a shit.
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>>33481206
>The Dreughs were/are sentient beings. When Akaviri forces invaded Tamriel, Vivec made an alliance with Dreugh kingdoms.

Yeah I recall reading about this, but the dreughs had a kingdom under water or something?

>I think it might be the same as giants though
A complete and utter mystery?
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>>33481508
Probably somewhere north of Tear but a little south of Mournhold. Apart from vague details about which cities are currently held by Morrowind we don't actually know that much about it.
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>>33481383
Still calling bullshit, everyone knows you need to be able to levitate to enter a telvanni fortress, and argonians fucking suck at magic.
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>>33481477
As much as I would love a Redguard-Nord-Dunmar confederacy i realize that wont happen as long as Ulfric is HIgh King of Skyrim. Our only hope is for the Dragonborn to realize Ulfric a shit, kill him and become High King himself. Then we can pursue this most logical course of action.
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>>33481572
The Dreughs are an aquatic race, anon.

Not a mystery. Nords and Giants had a falling out, I don't remember what, but according to Nordic legend, Nords and Giants came to Skyrim together and fought side by side as equals.
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>>33481592
>everyone knows you need to be able to levitate to enter a telvanni fortress


Wasn't there some event which caused levitation spells to stop working and eventually they were forgotten?
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>>33481592
Hist though...

Motherfuckers had them riled up like an anrgy ninja ant swarm... if the Hist didn't shoot lasers or some shit at their shroom towers then they probably just piled body on body until the wizards were out of magicka.

Think those zombies from the World War Z, but sapient and tool using.
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>>33481684
Ulfric actually doesn't seem to give that much of a shit about the Dunmer, it's more folks like Galmar who are caught up in the racialist politics of Windhelm.
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>>33481684
Ulfric did not seize power when he had the chance and the right. He denied the throne in his very grasp at the storming of Solitude.

He deserves to be High King.
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>>33481723
Telvanni still have it figured out.
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>>33481688
I know the dreughs were an aquatic race, What I meant to ask was if they had actual castles and cities underwater.

also, where in lore did you read about giants and nords?
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>>33481769
During the oblivion crisis yeah because that was crucial to the hist's survival.

Aside from stuff that actually concerns them the hist couldn't care less about whatever warmongering bullshit the Argonians get caught up in, hence why they never helped them out when they were getting enslaved.
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>>33479614
>>33479614
>>33479451


>not being a libertarian living in Mr. House's paradise

Fucking lower life forms
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>>33481723
Actually it's just an imperial law/act.... but Morrowind gives zero shits about Imperial laws
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>>33481855
>supporting Mr. kike
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>>33481195
THANKS FAGGOTS YOU'VE DOOMED ALL MEN! GREAT JOB! YOU GET TO FUCK OFF IN YOUR LITTLE NORD CIRCLEJERK FOR A MONTH OR TWO BEFORE THE FUCKING THALMOR COME IN AND INCINERATE YOUR SHITHIVE BRAINS OBLIVION. AND THEN YOU KNOW WHAT COMES NEXT? WHAT FUCKING COMES NEXT IS THE END OF MANKIND THAT'S WHAT. THE THALMOR FUCKING SCREW OVER THE ENTIRE DREAM BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO AFRAID TO BE WITHOUT DADDY, EVEN THOUGH DADDY IS DEAD NOW CAUSE THEY GOT TO FUCKING EXIST IN THE FIRST PLACE THANKS TO LORKHAN (YOU'RE FUCKING WELCOME FAGGOTS). AND THEN AURBIS CAN FUCK OFF INTO NOTHINGNESS FOREVER. THE FUCKING DREAM? NOPE THAT'S BASICALLY DONE AND THE GODHEAD IS LEFT WITH AN ETERNITY OF ALDMERI SPOOGESTAIN ALL OVER AURBIS. HOW'S THAT FOR A REMEMBRANCE OF YOUR FUCKING WIFE, ANU? I BET THIS IS WHY YOU BECAME AMARANTH! FUCKING THALMOR CUNTS ARE SO FUCKING RETARDED IT'S NOT EVEN FUNNY. BUT AT LEAST THEY AREN'T AS RETARDED AS THE FUCKING STORMCLOAKS. SERIOUSLY. YOUR FUCKING GOD ESSENTIALLY COMES BACK TO DELIVER YOU INTO A NEW AGE BY KILLING THE ASSHOLE WHO DECIDED TO END THE CREATION OF MORE KALPAS BECAUSE ALDUIN DECIDED TO FUCK OFF AND QUIT HIS FUCKING JOB, AND YOU GUYS FUCKING FALL FOR THE MOST BASIC OF THALMOR SCHEMES AND SHITFUCK YOURSELF INTO OBLIVION. NICE JOB, FUCKHATS.
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>>33481855
>Libertarian
>Wants guy to run Las Vegas like a king with completely unhinged robo-police shooting people on sight for any old crime.
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>>33481873
Morrowind is so based. I just wish the Nerevarine actually fulfilled the prophecy and REMOVED N'WAH but I guess he sort of did indirectly anyway.
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>>33481954
technocracy and libertarianism go hand in hand
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>>33468412
pretty simple
Empire:
>tried to kill me
>tortures political dissidents
>allows thalmor to kill religious dissidents

Stormcloacks
>helped me escape false imprisonment and execution
>wants to stop torturing political dissidents
>will disallow thalmor to kill religious dissidents
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>>33481830
It was vague on the Dreugh, but there was a Kingdom.

I can't remember, honestly. I have these days I randomly get super interested in a subject and spend hours pursuing it. It might have been in an Emperor's Guide to the Empire or one of the books detailing Ysgrammor. It's probably obscure, so I wouldn't be surprised if it were retconned.

>tfw they retconned Snow Whales (whales that fly around the Throat of the World)
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>>33481975
Did did remove nwah... by removing everyone from morrowind
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