>Daily reminder that Communism works
>Daily reminder that Communism turned a feudal medieval empire into a blossoming super power in only 15 years
>Daily reminder that the Third Reich was funded by American bankers to create a buffer zone against the Soviet Union and to create feuds amongst the workers
>Daily reminder that if you support capitalism, you support the jewish bourgeois and their manipulation of you.
>Daily reminder that "Cultural marxism" is just a buzz word created to scare off the western world and to keep them under capitalist control
>Daily reminder that you will never even come close to the top of the capitalistic pyramid, even if you gave it your everything.
>Not realizing that Capitalism is a pyramid scheme and has a higher death toll then Communism, Socialism and National Socialism together.
Yes, the milky milk smile is pasted over it.
Daily reminder that Communism is Jewish.
America's Communist Movement Owed a Lot to Jewish Support
>Senator Wolcott. Are they in favor of any particular religion?
>Mr. Huntington. Not the leaders of this movement themselves; no, sir. The leaders of the movement, I should say, are about two-thirds Russian Jews and perhaps one-sixth or more of some of the other nationalities, like the Letts or the Armenians. The assistant in the foreign office was an Armenian. Then there are the Georgians; that is, the so-called Gruzinians of the Caucasus, and the remaining number Slavs. The superiority of the Jews is due to their intellectual superiority, because the average Jew is so much better educated than the average Russian; and also, I think, to the fact that the Hebrew people have suffered so in the past in Russia that it has inevitably resulted in their cherishing a grudge which has been worked out by the movement.
Communism was Jewish - Communism is Jewish
Communism's Death Toll, and the Jewish Role in Bolshevism
The Jewish Century by Yuri Slezkine
The Jewish Role in the Bolshevik Revolution and Russia's Early Soviet Regime
Jewish Activists Created Communism
Jews and Bolshevism
Jewish Faces in Chinese Government
Jews and Communism - The South African Experience
>Ancestrally Ashkenazi Jewish, his maternal grandfather was a Dutch rabbi, while his paternal line had supplied Trier's rabbis since 1723, a role taken by his grandfather Meier Halevi Marx.
>He was the fifth child of eight of well-to-do Jewish farmers, David Leontyevich Bronshtein and his wife Anna Bronshtein. The family was Jewish but reportedly not religious.
List of Communist Jews
Putin: First Soviet Government was Mostly Jewish
Soviets Razed Churches, Spared Synagogues
Under the Sign of the Scorpion - Jewish Communists
Vladimir Lenin Was Part Jewish, Say Declassified KGB Files
Zionism versus Bolshevism by Winston S. Churchill
You know what's really jewish? The people who jockey desks taking money from those who create products and work jobs.
>You know what's really jewish?
Communism is totalitarian control. It never has worked. It never will. What happened to /pol/? I stop browsing for a few months and you all turn into Reddit tier faggots. I hope y'all niggas are trolling, you shitposting retards
>>Money grabbing jews agreeing to sharing resources
>Daily reminder that the worst atrocities committed in human history was by commies.
also TOPF leave
Fellow leftists of /pol/: you may be here forever, but you are never alone. Countless left anons and the victorious working class will always be on your side.
I'm just following one man's ideal...
We fight for the interests of those unable to do so. It isn't their fault petty materialism and faux individuality has deluded them so.
Communism doesn't work because the dictatorship of the proletariat is merely the same old hierarchy under new management.
WE NEED A DISTRIBUTIST ECONOMY, FUCKFACE.
And I bet you think you're better than nazis for believing its totally fine to mass murder kulaks and counter revolutionaries.
None of that had anything to do with communism you stupid stupid fuck. GTFO of this thread. Kill yourself. Seriously please fucking kill yourself.
Care to point out a successful free market society instead? I'll even accept a successful capitalist country.
>b..but muh slow implosion isn't complete collapse yet!
>Idiot who believes in dumb fuck racialist conspiracy theories is buttflustered that his race got #BTFO by a Jewish Cabal
Whatever you say there Schlomo
>Commanders and leaders
>What's wrong with being Jewish?
>In the whole of the Communist Party in 1922, the Baltic people were more disproportionately represented than the Jews. This was the national composition of the CPSU in 1922:
72% Russian (53% of population)
6% Ukrainian (21% of population)
5.2% Jewish (1.8% of population)
4.6% Polish, Latvian, other Baltic (0.7% of population)
3.4% Transcaucasian (2.5% of population)
2.5% Central Asian (7% of population)
2% RSFSR minorities (4.3% of population)
3% others (6.4% of population)
Source: T.H Rigby, "Communist Party Membership in the USSR, 1917-1967"
Out of the 15 members of the Council of People's Commissars on 7 November 1917, the only Jew was Trotsky. Except for the Ukrainian Lunacharsky and the Pole Teodorvitch, everyone else was Russian
In the Civil War, 22,000 ex-Tsarist officers served with the Red Army in 1918 and a total 48,000 in the entire Civil War. This element was crucial in preserving the Bolshevik Revolution. Needless to say, there was not a Jewish element amongst ex-Tsarist officers. Neither was there a Jewish element amongst the primary commanders of the Red Army. The aforementioned Latvian Riflemen leader Joachim Vatsetis became commander-in-chief of the entire Red Army from September 1918 to July 1919. He was replaced by Sergei Kamenev who was of course a Russian. Other important leaders of the Red Army were Vladimir Antonov-Ovseyenko, Mikhail Tukhachevsky, Mikhail Frunze (Romanian), Klement Voroshilov, Vasili Bliukher, and Semyon Budyonni (Cossack).
Thus, it has been proven that there was a limited Jewish presence amongst the Bolsheviks whether in the state, party, or military.
Cameron, Kenneth Neill. Stalin, Man of Contradiction. Toronto: NC Press, c1987, p. 75
>Daily reminder that Capitalism works
>Daily reminder that Capitalism turned dozens of shitholes into blossoming super powers in only 15 years
>Daily reminder that Communism was funded by Jewish bankers to incite and co-opt revolutions and to create feuds all over the world
>Daily reminder that if you support Communism, you support the Jewish bourgeois and their manipulation of you.
>Daily reminder that "income equality" is just a buzz word created to scare off the western world and to keep them under state control
>Daily reminder that you will never even come close to the top of the Communist pyramid, even if you gave it your everything.
>Not realizing that Communism is a pyramid scheme and has a higher death toll then Capitalism, religion and National Socialism together.
You understand what a monumental task you're asking if these people, right? Let alone reading something not approved by their personal ideological hugbox??
Frankly you are the cruelest person to have ever existed... probably
It's true that we was a puppet of the corporations, but he could have never gotten the support of the people if not for his socialist rhetoric. National socialism is officially an anti-capitalist ideology.
Woohoo! Communist general!
... Oh no, it devolved into anti-semitism before I could get here...
So Jews used their cunning and intelligence to screw you over using your own free markets? It's not the Commies who are jealous of the rich, it's the Nazis who are jealous of the Jews.
Yes our steady decline in every statistic tracked is surely proof of our success.. truth is every system creates the environment for it's replacement, for whatever reason however we seem hell bent on riding this straight in the ground instead of being rational adults.
The Ego kills
This is now a national socialist thread.
>Stalin caused him to kill himself
>You could even say Hitler was the first true libertarian.
yes, you could say that
you could say a lot of shit really, you've proven that already
it would still be totally fucking wrong though.
Adolf Hitler 1933 We want nothing but peace!
Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany Tribute
Adolf Hitler and the Atom Bomb
Adolf Hitler: Closing Speech in Triumph of the Will
Adolf Hitler Explains Reasons for Invading Poland - Part One
Adolf Hitler Explains Reasons for Invading Poland - Part Two
Adolf Hitler - Feel the power
Adolf Hitler: Judaism is a Satanic Power
Adolf Hitler - My Religion - My God!
Adolf Hitler: See the Glory
Adolf Hitler - The Greatest Story Never Told!
Adolf Hitler - The Ladies Man
Adolf Hitler - Long Live the Sacred Nations of Europe
Adolf Hitler: The Man Against Time
Adolf Hitler - The Man of Steel
Adolf Hitler: The Man they Call the Devil
Adolf Hitler - The Man Who Walked in Truth
Adolf Hitler - The Untold True Story
Adolf Hitler: They Called Him Herr Wolf
Adolf Hitler Explains His Reasons for Invading Soviet Union
Adolf Hitler's Political Testament
Adolf Hitler's Speech on the Role of Women
>having a nice summer, kiddo?
Amazing Adolf Hitler Speech - Our Enemies Today Face the Entire German Volk!
Babylon Before Hitler
Best Hitler Speech
Commander George Rockwell's Greatest Speech (Nazism vs. Communism)
Der ewige Jude (The Eternal Jew)
+ Die Besten Soldaten Der Welt + (The Best Soldiers of the World)
¤ Die Flut Kommt ¤ (The Tide Comes)
Die Rothschilds Aktien auf Waterloo (The Rothschilds' Shares in Waterloo)
Epic - The Story of the Waffen SS - Leon Degrelle
The Fable of the Ducks & the Hens
George Lincoln Rockwell 1966 Speech at Brown University
George Lincoln Rockwell On Blacks, Jews, the Holocaust
George Lincoln Rockwell vs Stokely Carmichael - Part One
George Lincoln Rockwell vs Stokely Carmichael - Part Two
George Lincoln Rockwell vs Stokely Carmichael - Part Three
George Lincoln Rockwell vs Stokely Carmichael - Part Four
George Lincoln Rockwell vs Stokely Carmichael - Part Five
George Rockwell Speech at Lynchberg Armory 1963
Hitler Explains His Reasons for War with USA - Part One
Hitler Explains His Reasons for War with USA - Part Two
Hitler Explains His Reasons for War with USA - Part Three
Hitler Explains the International Jewish Problem
Hitler on Israel and Palestine
Hitler's Reply to U.S. President F.D.R.
Hitler Responds to Churchill's Decision to Target Civilians
The Hitler Speech They Don't Want You to Hear
Hitler Speech - Jews and Freemasons
Hitler's War: What the Historians Neglect to Mention
How Hitler Tackled Unemployment and Revived Germany's Economy
If the Germans Won World War II
Jud Süß (Jew Süss)
Judea Declares War on Germany
J.F.K. Praises Adolf Hitler
National Socialism Explained #1
National Socialism Explained #2
National Socialism Explained #3
The National Socialism Revolution
Paintings by Adolf Hitler
This is National Socialism!
Through the Thick and Thin With the Führer
45 mil dead by great leap forward, 7.5 deaths in Holodomor alone, countless other Soviet deaths. Also, I thought the working class was important in Communism
>"Kulaks aren't working class guyz, peasants don't matter right guyz?"
>>Pipe down Evola, you're drunk.
Triumph des Willens (Triumph of the Will)
The True Reason Why Germany Invaded Poland
The Twenty-Five Demands of National Socialism Explained
Was Adolf Hitler the Bad Guy?
Why Did the Nazis Hate Jews?
Will of the Youth
Keep posting about people who got their shit wrecked by the Red Army and killed themselves out of fear, I love that stuff
No, the Freikorps blew them the fuck out
The point was emphasizing the post-War betrayal.
>you can just show up someplace and start building a house and you'll be compensated for it
>you can just start fighting crime and people will pay you for it
If this were true, there wouldn't be any fucking crime. Look at Detroit, it's a shithole and the police are paid like 9 bucks an hour, doesn't have money to hire new ones and the ones they have are desperate.
>you can just start cleaning up pollution, as long as you are working at it, you'll make a living doing it.
Whoever drew that up is a jackass.
Capitalism works, but eventually gets corrupted. I'm sure an absolute socalist society would work in the right setting too though.
Please tell me you're not proud of that image. Jesus.
Nice report announcement bro
I don't get it, why would you post this? Hitler is pretty much admitting the means justifies the end and in one fell swoop emancipates himself from all his crimes.
Oh sorry, I forgot Hitler din do nuffin.
>believing base Marxist theory
I am completely grown up.
How's that infantile disorder working out for you though?
Awww man, pulling out the popcorn! Really hoping some stormfag gonna get banned tonight on /pol/!!
The West was also funded by the West.
Capitalists have no regard for anything so long as it makes them a profit. It's why the ruling class would rather we all burn up in an environmental catastrophe than stop maximizing profit for even a second.
Fascists are all mentally stunted because they never progressed past the oral fixation stage of development and still want a big organic state ("mommy") to suck on the teats of. There, I saved some therapist a headache.
>Retards defending communism
>Retards defending nazism
>Both sides bashiang each other and saying their system is something magical that can make you free ans happy forever. Forelaz.
You're all fucking niggers.
At heart you're exactly the same, read accounts of dissidents who were interned in camps on both the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany, they tell almost the exact same story, just with different flags, they even used the same horrible tactics against civilians and their own soldiers in WW2. I'm glad the western powers pummeled both of your ideologies into irrelevenace, please stay mad.
Some days i wish we could have a legitimate conversation about these kind of things without jews.
Like, reading through all this, people are just saying its bad because its Jewish, like, your not even trying to pick out the economic and social side of it (which should be the main aspects). I just think if we could just discuss these things from a legitimate and scientific point of view it would be a better place (because lets be honest, the whole Jewish thing is a wild conspiracy theory, 98.5% of the population would just think you were crazy if you tried to convince them of these things). Even i get caught up in the anti-Jewish banter sometimes because its funny, so its really nobody's problem...
I know i should just take pol as entertainment, which i do most of the time, but i do sometimes feel it could be something better.
God damn it, are you getting the joke or not? You usually don't get a joke by just throwing a slightly modified version of the phrasing back at me like we're six year olds trading "no, you are"s.
>tfw you actually agree with Hitler on many things.
Where is that bit about women being in the military? I agree with that one too and I consider myself a Libertarian for the most part.
>you'll never shovel dirt with Hitler
NatSocs are so buttblasted by communist threads they always have to come and dump their propaganda. It's as if they don't tolerate opposition or something! Surely I'm overthinking this...
If you're interested in learning about the history and ideologies of the radical left, wikipedia is a good start, then the archives of authors on marxists.org (the Communist Manifesto, of course, is a good description of key beliefs, as is Engels' "Principles of Communism"). After that, try reading some modern authors on something like Libcom to see modern interpretations. I hope that you manage to spend some time learning away from this shithole. If you have any immediate questions, maybe I can help.
>We gave our lives
>So that you can fight FOR fascism
>So that you can post Hitler on the internet
>So that you can be the racism we fought
>So that you can wish the Nazis won
>So that you can dishonor why we died and pretend it was for your aryan racial mastrubatory fantasy
Those braindead commie shills are spamming this crap 24/7. This is just a reaction.
He opened this shit thread 30 minutes after the previous one reached the bump limit.
What's wrong with those autists?
Let me handle this one guys.
Fucking JIDF commie faggot! It's so fucking obvious America wanted to wipe out each and every German from the world and precious little Hitler was just minding his own business when Roosevelt (JEW!!!!) declared war on Germany.
Here are 100 cites from justice4germans and ihr proving my point. Nice try Schlomo!
Oh thank god, at least the joke wasn't *entirely* wasted.
I don't even dislike left-communism or anarchism all that much, I was just trying to have a clever back and forth.
"Left Communism: An Infantile Disorder" was a book written by Vladamir Lenin (he led the Soviet Union), attacking anarcho-communism and non-bolshevik Marxism.
Since you made a statement that would lead anyone to believe you were a left communist or an anarchist, it is common form for a fun joke between your camp and mine (Leninist) for us to claim you all have an "infantile disorder" and you all claim we're bloodthisty murderers and you'll never forgive Krondstadt.
Fuck off retard there are literally 3 faggots from revleft opening those threads one after another. It gets annoying after a while.
That guy with the euro flag is Zamolxis (tripfag) he has been spamming this crap for months along with FingolCommie and that other faggot with the anime pics.
>that's the joke
Have you never heard of irony or sarcasm?
Jesus, is anyone in this entire fucking thread capable of understanding a joke? Not even a joke, just a *not literal* sentance?
Yeah because he was assblasted that Mussolini turned on him.
Lenin sure was mad all the time.
>Daily reminder that communists advertise /pol/ on RevLeft and create the same threads every day for their circlejerks claiming how they are taking over /pol/, but every poll shows that the are only half a dozen actual commies here.
It worked for years turning a shit country into the second world power but finally succumbing to internal struggles instigated by foreign gevernments and bad application of the theory.
>Trotsky did nothing wrong
>this is what kids belive.
>desire for justice
What in God's name? What is "righteous violence"? Mussolini's campaign in Africa? The Balkans?
>Immunity to liberal programming
Supplanted with fascist programming, the ideology that depends upon the brainwashing of its citizens from childhood.
>Rejection of weakness
How do you define weakness? What does it mean to be pure?
If revleft comes here then debate them and blow them the fuck out, it's not that hard? Or are you afraid of losing?
If you want a circlejerk, there are plenty on the Internet so feel free to go.
/pol/ is a board of clashing ideologies, so handle the banter or gtfo
I'm sure you didn't whine when Stormfront invaded as well.
So you admit communism can work provided you tell Stalinist dupes to fuck off?
Shut the fuck up. You're all the same breed of collectivist parasite.
Ok ill bite.
Why should I, a middle class, white male, support an ideology that wants to flood my peaceful, happy community with third world foreigners who commit crime, destroy property and refuse to assimilate into the community's culture? An ideology that wants to tell my wife that Im her enemy, and wants to brainwash her to hate me? An ideology that tells my son he should have been born a woman instead?
Answer these (Protip: you cant), and youll have your answer why the white, cis, male majority will never support Communism.
Ive already read all that,
I like political science and have read a whole lot on pretty much every mainstream political movement. I don't associate with any particular political movement though, i just vote on which one will benefit me the most.
Pol's good because you get to read peoples specific views on things and its often the things you don't find in mainstream media, and its not some political scientists stance or a famous authors, its mainly (somewhat) normal people, though i do doubt that most of you aren't just keyboard warriors.
>If revleft comes here then debate them and blow them the fuck out, it's not that hard? Or are you afraid of losing?
That already happened several times. They just ignore it and create another thread. It gets tiring, you know.
By the way, /pol/ stands for Politically Incorrect, it's not for communism, something you can discuss at your university without fear of getting shut down or expelled.
Those sperglords are not here to argue do you know what a shill is?
White cis man here (obviously). You've clearly been brainwashed by capitalist propaganda. if this thread made you upset, maybe you should go buy things until you feel better. Then keep buying things and buying things and feeling miserable until this planet ends up in an ash tray because a bunch of rich fucks decided they'd rather maximize profit than back off on destroying the ecosystem. Clearly you have no need for communism.
You're too late.
You're far, far too late for a real conversation.
Either make jokes that go over everyone's head, scream and cry about the Jews, or get off. Because we left the University hall a long time ago, and now we're in the e-trenches fighting with flame and troll for our very tripcodes.
>Why should I, a middle class, white male, support an ideology that wants to flood my peaceful, happy community with third world foreigners who commit crime, destroy property and refuse to assimilate into the community's culture? An ideology that wants to tell my wife that Im her enemy, and wants to brainwash her to hate me? An ideology that tells my son he should have been born a woman instead?
I´m not telling you to do that, I´m telling you to support communism.
Yes. It would only work if the Premier ('president') was not greedy, and truly worked for the good of his nation. The only example of this ever happening is of Yugoslavia post-WW1
That is highly unlikely, as communism deprives everyone of power, and being in such a seat of power causes only temptation and greed to fester in a leaders mentality
Yes it is a good idea, but success rates are nonexistent on a nation-wide scale
>/pol/ stands for Politically Incorrect
>>taking everything lterally
Then ignore them, simple as that. No need to get buttmad and dump your fancy infographics and edgy quotes.
Also why would you want to argue with some wacko who thinks that capitalism causes transphobia and looks like pic related. They will open a new thread in 30 minutes anyway.
>That's why we're killing you off, cis scum.
>Cultural Marxism wins in the end.
The Communists true colors here, folks. Daily reminder that if youre a white, straight, male that Communism works against you and seeks to destroy you.
>He's actually serious
>He doesn't realize that we're living in a time of unprecedented peace and prosperity.
>He doesn't realize that even China, following the path of least resistance, is becoming more and more capitalistic.
>. The only example of this ever happening is of Yugoslavia post-WW1
Yugoslavia wasn't communist until after WW2, before that it was a kingdom.
>That is highly unlikely, as communism deprives everyone of power, and being in such a seat of power causes only temptation and greed to fester in a leaders mentality
But that isn't true as the idea of communism is to make the means of production worker owned so that power is governed by work since all industrial capability comes from the workers enabling the commoners to live and sustain themselves on their own terms.
Soviets who hijack this are exactly what Bakunin predicted when he said the "dictatorship of the proletariat" would be hijacked by dictators claiming to represent the proletariat.
>An ideology that wants to tell my wife that Im her enemy, and wants to brainwash her to hate me? An ideology that tells my son he should have been born a woman instead?
I'm an actual SJW person. A trans woman to boot. And this is just a fucking absurd overblowing of feminism.
Most feminists are married, you do realize? The issue isn't that individual men are an *enemy*, but that men, *as a social class*, hold a position of power that is unjustified. Calm the fuck down and learn how sociology works.
And no, feminism doesn't tell you son he should have been born a woman, it tells him that if he feels he should have, there's nothing wrong with that.
Argue against these ideas if you will, but misrepresenting them is just intellectually dishonest.
>Oh no! My flase flag failed!!
>Better respond to myself!!
If someone who calls himself a communit supports cultural marxism, he is not a communist as in cultural marxism has nothing to do with Marx or marxism.
>'m an actual SJW person. A trans woman to boot
You are mentally ill and will be gassed when the time comes.
Also posting the gif to see if it "triggers" you freaks. Maybe you wil go back to that shithole of yours then.
There is no truly defined "communism". There are many different branches, ideologies, and principles owed to many different philosophers.
>b-b-but muh marx!
He was socialist. And even that's a stretch.
10/10 you're a good troll. I'm raging.
Hey /pol/ why did you become a Commie?
When did you grow out of Communism?
1. Thought the music was badass. (Had no clue it was all Czarist.)
Cut the ad-homs and explain to me why Communism would benefit a white male, and maybe youd have my support.
As of now, all I see are a bunch of transgender, feminist, angry non-whites who wish to castrate you and me. Why would I support that? I disagree with Capitalism too, but Communisms social ideologies seek to directly harm me and my family.
I didn't even ad hom you too. Basically unless you're the owner of a huge multinational you stand to benefit from leftism. One of the first things that'd happen with the implementation of a socialist revolution would be a dramatic decrease in working hours. Does working 20 hours a week to meet all your needs sound good? Congrats, you're a commie.
>thats actually really hot
>mfw I'm totally into that
OMG THAT'S A SLUR YOU TRANSPHOBE MYSOGINIST CIS SCUM
(since my jokes have not gone over well, spoiler: I was being self-depreciating, it was a joke, please don't take it seriously)
>You can be a cultural Marxist AND support classical socio-economic Marxism at the same time, you know.
But you cannot. The entire basis of Marx's criticism of capitalism relies on capitalism's inherent contradictions - contradictions the cultural Marxists believed State intervention had solved. As such, the State assured the continuation of capitalism and the only way to bring about the downfall of capitalism would be through inducing a culture of equality and what not.
Cultural Marxists have always had a piss poor understanding of Marxism.
I'm a fascist but at the same time I'm deeply sympathetic to anarcho-communism.
The only thing I'm unconvinced by is how can communism protect my people and culture? If left without a healthy state how can it be assured that my nation will continue to exist?
Increased economic productivity from increased immigration, de-investment in overcrowded prisons stuffed with non-violent criminals, redistribution of capital ownership to more profitable, communal owners, a direct and equal stake in the company you work for, an increased share of that company's profits, and the long-term health of the ecosystem being insured.
And that's just a start.
ALL YA'LL ASSHATS REMEMBER ONE THING AMERICA WON.
That happens even in statist societies. The distinction is that one has a set monopoly of violence that you have to seize to take power whilst in anarchist societies there is no monopoly of violence.
On one had this may seem horrible and chaotic but on the other hand since there's no institution that can recognize your claim to authority it's much harder to exert control over a large group of people.
>Americans have forgotten about Debbs
Yes it does. But not at the expense of open borders, multiculturalism, gangs and lack of culture.
I do have support for Stalinism and Titoism but not the Cultural Marxist freaks of today.
>contradictions the cultural Marxists believed State intervention had solved.
I'm pretty sure that's not the case. Otherwise, why are most - if not all - cultural marxists active members in revolutionary socialist parties?
You are mentally ill and unstable though so something will probably get you. Hopefully you will kill yourself then you worthless shit.
6 till bump limit here we go
GAS THE FAGGOTS AND THE FREAKS
>There is no truly defined "communism". There are many different branches, ideologies, and principles owed to many different philosophers.
That was not my point, my point is that you are calling communism what in reality is the dictatorship of the proletariat also refered by communists as socialism.
I´m saying you have no idea what you are tlaking about because you are saying that a phase that is meant to be temporal and not permanent doesn´t work. The problem is a bad application of the dictatorship of the proletariat.
You see, the socialist state´s (phase before communism and after the revolution) purpose is to repress and stabilize the country after the revolution. It is very unlikely (and this is proven every time by history) that the previous ruling class will accept the new system and renounce to their privileges and because they are likely to rebel/ask for foreign support, a temporal state is created to repress this potential insurrections (the state in marxism is a mechanism a class uses to opress another class). The problem lies when after said repression and stabilization the state keeps on existing. This creates a contradiction: There is only 1 class and there is a state, so said state can´t opress anyone. This contradiction is solved in 2 ways, either the state goes is dismantled, or a new class emerges, which is what happened every time.
>He was socialist. And even that's a stretch.
Oh, right, the book called "The Communist Manifesto" was actually "The Socialist manifesto".
>10/10 you're a good troll. I'm raging.
And it's done abandon thread bump limit reached
See you in the next thread faggots
It is from facial abuse dunno the video
>lets dump propaganda because facts totally rape communism
>I'm pretty sure that's not the case
Take a gander upon Max Horkheimer and Theodor Adorno. They believed state intervention in the economy had effectively abolished the tension in capitalism between the relations of production and material productive forces of society - a tension which, according to traditional Marxist theory, constituted the primary contradiction within capitalism.
>Otherwise, why are most - if not all - cultural marxists active members in revolutionary socialist parties?
You want to speak facts?
Compare Imperialistic Russia to Soviet Russia in the 40s. Now imagine how hard it would've been to do all that in only 15 years.
Imagine Africa uniting today and becoming a superpower in 15 years, rivalling states like the USA or China. That's what Communism did.
>Calls others racist
>Refers to whites as "honkies"
>Is a Communist
Good job. Keep alienating those who could have already put your failed ideology in to power if you werent such a dumb fuck.
As if you were bashing on dolphins, because they can't fly. I don't think they give a shit.
So it's the "b-but that's not my specific brand of communism that I refuse to identify it clearly and perpetually hide behind vague terms and name-dropping".
Do you ever have anything to say or are you just one of the many many Communists on here with poorly justified positions that spew bile about how their poorly thought out idea of what Communism is would work out perfectly and completely ignores everything else in the world while pouting about the "mean capitalists" keeping your ideology down.
>Implying the white race isn't enslaved as fuck by corporations and capitalism.
I want to free them all from their shackles. You want to keep them enslaved. We might be dumb fucks but you are a traitor towards your own race.
>capitalism is wasteful because it makes products to be sold, not because they are needed
>communism is not wasteful because supply and demand forces do not operate and thus unsuccessful products keep being made
Only here's the thing, much of western Europe was also a pit but they managed to modernize leaps and bounds ahead of the USSR.
Even if Imperial Russia was third-world tier, in another century they would be a developed modern country like the rest of us. And given Russia's potential maybe the most powerful in the world.
But now Russia is just back to square one of being a militarily powerful backwater.
West europe had hundreds of years to do so. Stalin had 15 years. But after 15 years, the Soviet union became superior to nearly every nation on the state. You don't realize the true power of the proletariat.
The point anon was that Stalinism and Titoism are inherently opposed to each other and it's impossible to support both.
Titoism was coined by the Russians to slander Yugoslavia anyway.
No, you want to open the borders to third world shitskins to invade and corrupt my peace. Your "racist honky" and "Republican" knee jerk reactions just proved what I already knew about modern-day Communists.
Protip; Immigration is purely capitalistic. The goal of Communism is to improve the world. If we would raise the standards of the second and third world, they wouldn't have to come to the first world to find world.
You do know that the reason why you have all those niggers in the USA is because capitalists wanted to make money with slaves, don't you? It's capitalism you're supposed to be fighting, not Socialism.
Only they didn't, on paper they definitely were formidable but I wouldn't like to live there. Maybe it was a bit better than Tsarist Russia, but that doesn't change the fact that right now had the whites won Russia would have developed alongside the rest of Europe without depending on Stalin and his wacky heavy-industry hijinks.
Tell me how well that went.
>if you're not for socialism in one country, you're a cultural Marxist
>implying true socialism is not international
I guess Marx and Engels were cultural Marxists.
>"Will it be possible for this revolution to take place in one country alone?
>No. By creating the world market, big industry has already brought all the peoples of the Earth, and especially the civilized peoples, into such close relation with one another that none is independent of what happens to the others. Further, it has co-ordinated the social development of the civilized countries to such an extent that, in all of them, bourgeoisie and proletariat have become the decisive classes, and the struggle between them the great struggle of the day. It follows that the communist revolution will not merely be a national phenomenon but must take place simultaneously in all civilized countries—that is to say, at least in England, America, France, and Germany. It will develop in each of the these countries more or less rapidly, according as one country or the other has a more developed industry, greater wealth, a more significant mass of productive forces. Hence, it will go slowest and will meet most obstacles in Germany, most rapidly and with the fewest difficulties in England. It will have a powerful impact on the other countries of the world, and will radically alter the course of development which they have followed up to now, while greatly stepping up its pace. It is a universal revolution and will, accordingly, have a universal range." – Friedrich Engels, The Principles of Communism, 1847
Cultural Marxism has absolutely NOTHING to do with Communism. It's a hoax to scare people from communism. Lenin was long death before Cultural Marxism became an actual theory.
Oh, and no communist EVER has taken Cultural Marxism serious. It's like the communist equivalent of the capitalist Libertarian.
You see the real problem with communism is the egalatarian ideas behind it
You seem to assume that africa can become a superpower at any stage, when their entire history is comprised of genocide (with arrows and spears before whitey gave them guns), dirt huts and 0 technological advancement
Even if your communism could work, your ridiculous assumptions about everyone having the potential to be equal(and thus deserving equal pay) are just absurd and reflected nowhere on the face of this earth.
Communism has been proven time and again to be highly ineffecient, tyrannical, with a devastating environmental and human toll.
the fact that so many regimes have started out with (hopefully) positive intentions and rapidly tended to dystopia proves that communism is very liable to failure.
Waving this red flag after so many failures makes me ask... do you know the definition of insanity?
What failures? China and Russia both tried Communism in the last century and both are serious superpowers in global politics. Saying that it never works is exactly like saying that you never actually read a book about history in your life.
Furthermore, claiming that communism has benefits in technologically developing a nation totally ignores the time proven benefits of capitalism in technological advancement.
Industrial revolution and the occurring cyber revolution, both capitalism.
Then learn from history and join us to create a new, better future. A future where actual progress and science will lead the way instead of the current enslavement of the workers.
>Socialism that actually works
Stalin advocated "socialism in one country" out of neccessity, not to challenege Socialisms core beliefs. In doing so, naturally, he built one of the worlds greatest superpowers in less than 15 years. Yes, Stalins USSR was very Nationalistic.
No one has advocated for equal outcome.
>"The elimination of all social and political inequality,” rather than “the abolition of all class distinctions,” is similarly a most dubious expression. As between one country, one province and even one place and another, living conditions will always evince a certain inequality which may be reduced to a minimum but never wholly eliminated. The living conditions of Alpine dwellers will always be different from those of the plainsmen. The concept of a socialist society as a realm of equality is a one-sided French concept deriving from the old “liberty, equality, fraternity,” a concept which was justified in that, in its own time and place, it signified a phase of development, but which, like all the one-sided ideas of earlier socialist schools, ought now to be superseded, since they produce nothing but mental confusion, and more accurate ways of presenting the matter have been discovered.
i would be completely ok with comunism, were the people actually capable of not fucking it up,
>'moke weed errday
Yes, and both are in the process, or already have, left the communist regime.
Going on that, you are saying it is a good method in which to advance a nation, but not good as a long term solution.
So it has worked somewhat in the way you describe, barring the many horrific acts committed under these regimes.
However, ignoring the excellent track record of capitalism in regards to technological advancement really lets this argument down.
Exactly which is why I'm a fascist.
You can be traditionalist without being capitalist. I just reject the idea that a 100% planned economy can function better than a semi-organic one or even do a better job of protecting the under-classes.
>Socialism that actually works
But it didn't work, did it?
The inability for socialism to work in one country is that a socialist revolution must throw the forces of production backward by pulling the nation out of the realm of global production. For example, a computer requires metals from capitalist Congo, labor from capitalist China, software from capitalist United States, oil from capitalist Middle East, etc. Cuba and North Korea display the limits of growth for nations which cannot enter into global production due to their enforced isolation from the hegemonic imperialist powers. Indeed, we saw capitalist relations exist even inside the USSR.
The first are foremost traitor to the working class was Stalin. Why did he betray the workers of Spain and the German communists?
Socialism (and his invisible brother, who'll appear some day if we believe hard enough, Communism) cannot work in one country.
Which is actually quite true since it always leads to the said country going down the shitter.
But it'll work if we can take over the whole world. I swear guys, it'll be beautiful. But it has to be all the countries. ALL of them. Whether you like it or not. And this is communism in a nutshell. Use despair, poverty and hope to subjugate, torture and kill people.
Ah yes, I remember this pirate, who doesn't understand quite what international socialism is and why "socialism" cannot function if it is contained.
It's really because one country doesn't have enough men to kill to feed the Marx-Machine hell bent on enslaving the free world. You got me.
I don't know or care who do you confuse me with, but you should at least have the decency not to mix your warmongering, neo-feudalist, state terror propaganda with this:
Thank you kindly.
>I don't know or care who do you confuse me with, but you should at least have the decency not to mix your warmongering, neo-feudalist, state terror propaganda with this:
We're on the same side you idiot.