ITT ask a former shill anything.
>shilled /pol/ for Cassidy & Associates until they recently quit paying us. "standard of proof" was ridiculous, so you could spend an entire day getting a thread nice and juicy and get nothing for it.
>used to shill twitter for McDermott, Will & Emery. Shilling twitter has gotten less lucrative, and you'll get dropped lickity split if you're not consistently being retweeted.
So, I quit shilling and focus on my day job.
no, there's a very strict narrative / counter-narrative you have to stick to. Pieces of it changes frequently. Cassidy is big on the SJ narrative, and uses places like /pol/ to push the counter-narrative.
Hours a day is pretty variable. With MWE, if one of your tweets got momentum, you'd get paid, so it was more about luck than investing time.
Money isn't great. On a good month, maybe $1000, on a bad month, maybe $200.
Day job = legal clerk for a lobbying firm I won't name.
Did you ever collude with colleagues to focus efforts or did you just do your own thing.
not at all. We are not left to our own devices whatsoever. Most firms have a small group of full time "messaging" reps, and they come up with a comprehensive plan, and assign narratives in a very strategic way. Its a well thought out process, and usually you're not privvy to the bigger picture.
Float around DC working shit-jobs for firms long enough and you'll end up shilling for extra cash. Its a good way to augment your income. As long as you're literate enough to understand how the narratives work, and have a good grasp of the nuances of social media, its pretty easy to find opportunities.
You have to be careful, because lobbying firms tend to not like each other, so if your "day job" finds out that you're shilling with another firm, you could get in trouble.
Eh, I used to shill too. But it was mostly viral marketing bullshit for video game companies on forums like IGN or 4chan's /v/.
I wonder how the israeli shills are doing...
ctrl+f "shill" or "hasbara"
Its not really something that you apply for. If you work in the front office of a legislative affairs office, or a lobbying firm, or a think tank, its a popular thing to get into.
The firm I used to work at had me shill part time, and then friends from other firms who also shill for extra cash will let you know if their messaging department needs people. Its almost always very temporary.
"standard of proof" = proving that you've shilled to a large audience. Twitter is easy. /pol/ is hard, because you have to forward a thread to be archived before it 404's. You don't get paid unless you prove you've gotten the narrative to the right crowd, in the right abundance, sometimes with the right reaction.
absolutely, but not the "false flag" stuff that floats around here. Usually when tragedies happen, there are tons of shilling opportunities. This whole Elliot Rodgers thing could have made me a lot of money this month but oh well. Every firm with a messaging department jumps on these things.
>Cassidy is big on the SJ narrative, and uses places like /pol/ to push the counter-narrative.
yeah right, faggot. got a pay stub?
ya, it felt kind of stupid sometimes, but /pol/ is all about the counter-narrative. The people who come up with the "comprehensive plan" dictate that stuff. So the idea is that you push a counter-narrative on /pol/, and you guys go out and do that narrative an injustice by pushing it in an abrasiveness manner, thus devalidating it among the "normal folk."
You know those propaganda .jpgs that you see with pretty good production value? we originate those on places like /pol/ and then see them pop up on twitter.
ya I read everything. I have to keep the thread alive, so its an involved process. Then I have to archive it, and in some instances cross my fingers that it pops up later on major social media so I can get a bonus.
We also tag our jpegs with a tiny pixel array in the corner that blends in, so you know who originated it if you open it in a certain program.
this entire series was originated at Cassidy & Associates.
If you brainwash the general populace into slaves of le conspiring gentlemen, you can frame your competitors as racist sexist bigots and eliminate them.
Look at how Eich from Mozilla was hit. pretty convenient how he was the only one opposing implementation of adobe DRM, and as soon as he was lynched they implemented it.
this is pretty general, but for something like "racism," you push the counter-narrative to try and prove that "racism is still a problem in 2014." Then you push the narrative to confront the straw-man counter-narrative that your organisation created.
its not as direct as that. Like I said, I wasn't privvy to the comprehensive plan, so the details as to how each effort connect in arriving at a desired end state was pretty vague to me.
Sorry, I know that makes me sound like a shill pretending to shill, but I don't have a good answer.
>Sorry, I know that makes me sound like a shill pretending to shill, but I don't have a good answer.
Can you describe any specific effort in any detail? No offense but this sounds like horse shit.
well, you pay someone a couple hundred bucks a month to aggressively push this stuff on /pol/, and it will naturally find its way to twitter and other social media.
just like /b/ turns memes, /pol/ turns insane narratives.
Maybe I am dense, but I still don;t see how this can be that profitable for anyone. Seems like a grimy business. OP should be sad that he has such little respect for humanity and creativity. I think an heroing should be high on his list of considerations.
He gave an example of his kind of manipulation working. Look at >>30588909 . Wasn't it so strange that something he did years ago got him hit, but people have done much worse and stayed in public office? It's likely that gay marriage thing was all they had on him, so they had to make sure it blew up as big as it could.
That's pretty mean man. I don't do it anymore. The cost of living is high in D.C., so you do what you can do to make some extra cash. People here do much much worse in degrading humanity.
No plans to an hero. If I wasn't doing it, someone else was.
>tiny cost for a potentially large pay-off.
Why do this when they can just pay the Congress members directly? This is 2014, after all. Your statements imply people have any power in the decisions of legislators. Protip: we basically don't. No offense, but this reeks of paranoid schizophrenia.
No offense, but thinking that the manipulation process is that clean, easy, and efficient that they wouldn't need to manipulate public opinion is pretty schizophrenic. It's also vital that any group like this keeps a cover of plausible deniability -- "People WANT more surveillance, people WANT to block internet services that don't pay repressive fees to improve service" etc.
>Tell me that wasn't manufactured outrage so I can laugh at you.
Everything is manufactured outrage. My point is that have shills working for the likes of Salon and Slate to push this nonsense. Why use some "counter-narrative" convoluted system when you can just shill directly. This makes no sense. If shills are actually paid to push SJ shit on /pol/ then those are pretty bottom of the barrel shills. No offense.
>shillin for shekels
Never in the span of humanity could man have envisioned such a profession being a career option to put bread on the table
I thought /pol/ was just fucking around pretending to be paranoid, but you're telling me this shit is real?
You don't have to believe me, but I had some limited experience working with intelligence agencies overseas when I was in the Air Force and those guys were all very well aware that they could use accusations of paranoia or assumptions of good faith to help cover their activities.
There is also extensive evidence since reunification that the East German intelligence service went even further and actively cultivated paranoia both in groups and in targeted individuals as a form of psychological control (outside of an interrogation/detention environment), but I've never witnessed this personally.
read OP's posts about creating/managing the counter-narrative.
What this means, I'm guessing, is that they have a main narrative which they research and prepare talking points/sources to support, then they create an opposing narrative and purposefully poison that side with fallacious/exaggerated talking points and dubious sources, and release it into the wild.
This counter-narrative is a sort of seed that germinates in places like /pol/. The retarded members here absorb it and take it with them out into the mainstream media ecosystem (twitter, facebook, news discussion), not knowing that they are carrying purposely poisoned talking points, to which the creators of the main narrative have already prepared counter-arguments. Thus the proponents of the main narrative get to publicly wreck this manufactured opposition, which generates greater popularity and support.
Thought it was all programs, but why not.
Just did a reverse search on OPs jpeg and got a clean one.
Nothing visible in corners at pixel level.
Will run thru photoshop to check for digimark, unless one of u beat me to it.
Note will need cs3 or above.
I'm a shill too, I'm unpaid though and just do it to keep America free, FUCK THE MONEY.
mo shilling, fo free, by me..
I've shilled for freedom and common sense so hard, my FB has gone from reaching 250K a week to now reaching 100-200.. I have been SHUT DOWN. So I have extracted myself from FB pretty much and spread the message through other available means. Funny thing is I don't do it for money, popularity or anything, I do it because I want my kids to grow up in the America my grand dad grew up in.
Interact with the app. Send data that looks to the application completely legit, and which it will force it to expend computational resources creating a response. This overwhelms the server and complicates filtering efforts.
well you're doing a poor job, obviously, faggot.
Being a former shill for Microsoft sucks, anyone who wants to do it don't do it. The pay system is retarded but not as retarded as your supervisor and you have to post on trash like Gamespot or /g/ and Huffingtonpost or Fox News comments. Also fuck your NDA, Microsoft kikes and especially that dirty yid heeb Ballmer.
>what is the "right reaction"?
When it becomes a dominant meme on /pol/
All these concepts were pushed in an industrial manner.
What you are witnessing is the radicalization of the radicals, like applying cultural marxism to cultural marxism, the end result is leadership by crackpots, fracture of the group, and most importantly the demonization of anyone not radical enough.
What kind of drugs did u take to invent such colorful bullshit?
Also pretending you're for real, can you point out some conspiracies that must exist based on narratives your employers pushed for?