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Americans are permitted to boycott any state in the Union, but it is illegal to boycott Israel.

https://www.jta.org/2017/07/24/news-opinion/opinion/the-us-anti-bds-bill-may-be-bad-but-not-as-bad-as-some-critics-say

BERKELEY, Calif. (JTA) — A bill being weighed in Congress that would target boycotts of Israel and its settlements is sparking widespread outrage, especially after investigative journalist Glenn Greenwald claimed it “criminalizes free speech.” The post relied on a letter from the ACLU expressing First Amendment concerns over the Israel Anti-Boycott Act. By contrast, the co-sponsors of the bill insist that it in no way hampers free speech.

So who is right?

Statutory analysis is complex under the best of circumstances, and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict does not tend to bring out people’s sense of care and nuance. What has been largely missing from the discussion over the Israel Anti-Boycott Act is a close, careful reading of the bill’s text and relevant statutory law — a non-hyperbolic read, but also a non-apologetic one. In short: This law has issues. It poses genuine speech concerns, and it seems to respond to a nonexistent problem.

But the more extreme claims that it bans boycotts of Israel are untrue.

A bit of background can help set the stage. While Arab countries have boycotted Israel since before there was an Israel, in the 1970s they became far more aggressive in demanding that their trading partners join them in refusing to do business with Israel. They imposed a secondary boycott whereby companies had to prove they weren’t doing business with Israel in order to do business with the Arab countries.
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In response, America passed a law prohibiting several actions if they were taken “with intent to comply with, further, or support any boycott fostered or imposed by a foreign country against a country which is friendly to the United States.” These included:

* Discriminating against a person “on the basis of race, religion, sex, or national origin”;

* Providing information “with respect to the race, religion, sex, or national origin” of any American person or their employees;

* Providing information regarding whether one had any business dealings with the boycotted country; and of course,

* Boycotting the country.

This law has been upheld against First Amendment challenges. And the most anodyne way of describing the new bill is to say it merely extends the preexisting ban on boycotting an ally of the United States at the behest of a foreign country (e.g., Qatar) to include doing so at the behest of an International Governmental Organization, or IGO (e.g., the European Union or United Nations).

Importantly, neither the current law nor the proposed one bans boycotts of Israel generally. The existing anti-boycott law only prohibits actions taken “with intent to comply with, further, or support any boycott fostered or imposed by a foreign country.” Obviously, it is not generally unlawful to say whether one has business dealings with Israel. And likewise, even under this law, it is not illegal to boycott Israel — unless the reason you’re doing it is to comply with a foreign country’s demand that you do so.
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If one says “I boycott Israel because I think Israel is terrible,” that remains perfectly lawful (the ACLU is simply wrong when it suggests that the law targets those who boycott Israel “because of a political viewpoint opposed to Israeli policies”). In fact, if one says “I boycott Israel because the Palestinian Campaign for the Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel tells me to,” that’s entirely lawful, too (PACBI is neither a foreign government nor an IGO). Only boycotts done at the behest of the EU or the U.N. would be newly prohibited by the law.

The ACLU’s letter suggests that this represents unlawful viewpoint discrimination. But many laws are like this: They prohibit certain actions only when they are taken with a particular intent. For example, it is illegal to fire a Latino employee if one is motivated by racial prejudice against Latinos. Both the action and the intent are perfectly lawful on their own — it is not illegal to harbor racial prejudice, and it is not illegal to fire employees — but conjoined together they become illicit. One could characterize this as (to quote the ACLU’s letter) punishing persons “based solely on their point of view” — the same action, taken with a different (non-prejudiced) viewpoint, is lawful — but doing so would throw the entirety of American anti-discrimination law into question.
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>>134855010

Understanding the proposed anti-boycott measure requires grasping this distinction. Critics see provisions that target “support [for] any boycott fostered or imposed by any international governmental organization against Israel,” and assume that this motive alone is being criminalized. But a close parsing of the text — and in fairness, the paragraph in question is a convoluted nightmare — shows that this phrase does not prohibit supporting a boycott of Israel, it only prohibits those aforementioned actions (e.g., discrimination against an employee, certifying one does no business with Israelis) if one is doing so to support a boycott call from a foreign government or, now, IGO .

But just because the hyperbolic reactions are off base does not mean that the law is worth backing. There is a legitimate free speech objection in how the law treats “support” for an IGO’s announced boycott. Whereas in current law the term “support” for a boycott is modulated by terms like “comply with” or “further” — suggesting more than pure expressive sympathy — in the new bill the term “support” stands unadorned. This poses a significant risk of chilling speech because whether or not Israel boycotters are doing so because they personally find the nation terrible versus because they wish to “support” a U.N. declaration that Israel is terrible will often be quite blurry. In any event, it’s not clear why that should be legally dispositive.

Other new language regarding statutory penalties — I do not believe the bill carries the risk of imprisonment, but it would be simple for its writers to to make this clear — and how “requests” for a boycott are treated also are troublesome and at the very least need reworking.

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Why do the Balts of /pol/ love Germans and Germany in general?

I have noticed this love lately.
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I think Nazi's treated them better then Commies
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EU gibs.
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honestly Bulgarians only like Germans because we are retarded lazy cucks that go to work there and take the monay back because "ohhh noooo our country is soooo poor we can't find a job that pays well it's not us being lazy and not fixing our own country" faking hell

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Our cops (U.S.) feel like a waste of taxpayer dollars.

>be me
>born into low-achieving trash family
>live in a flyover state
>suck at school, have no career prospects
>apply at employer of last resort (the military)
>deployed to a bunch of deserts; guard the toilets in a coalition base
>see no action, just make sandnigger jokes all day
>discharge
>still walk around in my uniform in civilian settings like a fuckwit
>treated like a demigod by members of the public due to autistic national military industrial complex
>walk into a job as a cop in some backwater desert town
>born to do this job, watched 'Cops' as a kid (drugs & niggers = bad)
>walk around with a shiny badge, a gun and a god complex
>see black kid walking along the street holding an ice cream sandwich
>get anxious, forget my training, fumble for my pistol and shoot him through the forehead five times
>paid administrative leave while 'internal investigation' decides i was following appropriate procedure
>forgotten and tossed on the stats-heap / swept_under_the_rug.xml
>spend the next 40 yrs being a snarky asshole, bullying members of the public
>taze anyone that looks at me sideways
>die fat & bitter that I never made it to a 'Cops' episode
>still clueless as to why the community hated me, even from the afterlife

What are cops like in your country, /pol/?

Discuss.
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polite and helpful i'd go as far as saying they used to be the best in the world but due to excessive paperwork and funding cuts they have stopped being a part of the community and now only respond to problems with the exception of big cities and crime hotspots.
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>>134854865
Any idea if department funding is tied to 'performance' (i.e. higher funding if more petty crack busts, etc?)
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>>134855380
No the government has just gutted funding for most emergency services to help pay for other things.

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>red pill must watch videos

American senator tell the other side of the story: https://youtu.be/0FNtEWfay_8
>Ron Paul https://youtu.be/LULzvg1gA5U | https://youtu.be/fbEMlqrhlSg
Virginia senator on Aleppo: https://youtu.be/VfyDgDTu0Go
>UN Neutral report on "War Crimes" in Syria: https://youtu.be/Yc-RmAVK8Pg
Syria: Not a Revolution: https://youtu.be/8prwbWLa7f0

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"Chemical attacks" in Khan Shiekoun on April 4
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/04/67182.html
>Assad: Chemical Attack Fabrication https://youtu.be/_pGAcv-cvA4

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>THE TRUTH ABOUT White helmets:
https://youtu.be/8aAaReVn2I4
https://youtu.be/Es7oBV6b43Y
https://youtu.be/tseqwNIXhDQ
https://youtu.be/792ODrhwKkk
White helmets killing a child for UN https://youtu.be/9nj6fc69qjM

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>What's REALLY Happening in Syria (by SyrianGirlPartisan): https://youtu.be/OJZRvp6w4wc
Syria ambassador in USA: https://youtu.be/U3LTTbOYVfU
Women under Bashar https://youtu.be/_S_zmlDuGKU
>The Face of American Regime Change: https://youtu.be/T634A6AWR9c
Assad visits monastery for Christmas: https://youtu.be/aG_SutViEmQ
Soldier met family after 5 years: https://youtu.be/zHoeU9mZ1Xss
>Canadian Journalist Expose The Lies of Syria: https://youtu.be/tmNnZ-3JmSo
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NGO’s and hybrid warfare: https://youtu.be/ro1byfe5vUM
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WikiLeaks: Turkish oil minister links to Isis oil trade
- wikileaks.org/berats-box/article
Top aide to Hillary Clinton: :Al-Qaeda is on our side in Syria
- wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/23225
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>SJWs cuckmarch(riding in my Volkswagen van everyday) from Germany to Aleppo
https://youtu.be/L2A3KidIhe8
Progress: 20 left out of 3000+ at the start
6+ months have passed since the roadtrip started. From May 1st they are in Greece..
1 of them went back to berlin to visit kids.
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Thread reminder to watch Threads.
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>Mark
>Lars
>Sven
>Rod
What shitty goyim names.
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I can tell it's a nigger, so it's ok. He looks like Jay Z
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>Whites are hum-
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parasite
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Tastes like chicken.

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See link. Who is this guy?
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Link:
https://twitter.com/kmbiamnozie/status/889702656570163200
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Bump faggots this is not a joke
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Let's hope the July 27th happening puts a wrench in their plans.
Still, what can we do to prevent this if this is real.

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it's over
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So murder?
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Neville defeated Voldemort
Has she even read the books?

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Why do single fathers make a better parent than single mothers?
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do you think he lets her suck his dick if she does a good job with his tie?
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>Why do single fathers make a better parent than single mothers?
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>Why do single fathers make a better parent than single mothers?

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3613682/RIP-Britain-academic-objectivity-Oxford-Professor-DAVID-COLEMAN-one-country-s-population-experts-says-white-Britons-minority-late-2060s-sooner-current-immigration-trends-continue.html

Laugh with me at them
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>>134867911
Well, it was nice knowing you bongs.
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>>134867988
You are aware the same thing will happen to your countries and sooner right?
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lol, the Dutch army ware skirts and are outnumbered by Turks

And it's impossible for the republican's to win an election after 2034, we have more time than you guys

https://www.wthr.com/article/oj-simpson-drawing-world-attention-during-plea-for-freedom-0

http://www.krmg.com/news/local/stream-the-simpson-hearing-fox23/R15V7wnTbXWxZEzX1Co3qI/

http://wsav.com/2017/07/20/watch-live-we-will-live-stream-the-oj-simpson-parole-hearing-online-at-1-p-m/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCFqwctPjLU

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DENIED!
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DENIED!
DENIED!
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free oj he didnu nuthin wrong

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Guys , i had an argument with someone who told me that it's a known and verifiable fact that during ww2 , lamp shades were made with jewish skin and soap with fat from jews....

Told him i had my doubts , anyway i'm supposed to be meet this person again in a few hours...And i'd like you guys to red pill me on this issue. Real or fake ?

And if fake , any interesting sources i could show him ?
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You can't source a negative claim He has to give a source for jew soap and lamp shades (he won't)
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http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-soap-myth
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>>134867442
I can't give you source, maybe you can look it up, but as far as I know, the lampshades and the soaps were just a meme made by the Allies to "de-nazify" the Germans, showing them how "horrible" things they've done in the war. It was one of the first steps to plant the seed of guilt in the Germans. But if you want to be realistic, have you ever tried to wash yourself with any kind of fat? Your skin will look like a fucking 15 years old boy's face.

Post your expanded brains. Only the most enlightened welcome
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>enlightened brain
>national (((socialist)))
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I don't have a clue what you're talking about
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>there are people who think nazis are right wing
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god bless whoever made that png
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>>134853383
>National (((Socialist))) German Workers' Party
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I wonder if that treefag post from /int/ a while ago was from another anon or if it was you

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Pls i need some hate for being Indian i deserve it
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my buddy in aus sold his car to a guy from india name "Dick Shit" and he couldn't stop laughing.
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>>134853316
gaad me lele aur apni maa ko bhi gaand me lene ko bol, chutiye
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You better not be shitting in my streets, pajeet.

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This is general discussion for all things christian

1. How do we bring in more refugees in our countries?
2. How do we fight Islamopphobia and other forms of religious bigotry?
3. How can we stop young girls from aborting BEAUTIFUL black babies?
4. How do we stop idolatrous republicans from destroying the welfare state?
5. How do we stop slut shaming? Why don't atheists understand that when a woman goes to confession all her past sins are cleansed?

6. How can we tackle the racism on this board? God loves the entire world. There is no room for racism in any christian denomination.
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bump, good morning
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Bump
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Love is patient and kind; love is not jealous or boastful; it is not arrogant or rude. Love does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrong, but rejoices in the right. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never ends; as for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away.

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