So, what does /p/ think of Lolympus Pen-F
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>and sleek rangefinder-style looks (reminiscent of Fujifilm’s X100 series cameras)
it looks exactly like the old Pen FT, NOT like le x100 memecamera. im gonna gut that faggot with a dessert spoon, fucking hell.
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I think it's interesting and shows Olympus are obviously refining their product line. If they ditch the EPM line and keep the rangefinder style on their new PEN line it'll give them 5 different niches filled, all the way from pro to amateur. The only odd one out is the E-M5 now - not as compact as the E-M10 and not as good as the E-M1. That said I wouldn't change mine for anything.
Also Panasonic really need to get their shit together and get the organic sensors out.
maybe, but I'm not considering any of the two so why bother? I just wanted to say that the price of the Pen might be a little high right now. Apart from that I really like the design of the Pen except for the mode dial.. a shutter speed dial as it can be found at Fuji X would make it perfect in my opinion.
>design reference and name from retro slr
>is not an slr
>sensor is smaller than the original
>fancy useless hipster front dial
>evf is smaller than m5 & p5
Why are they so afraid to make cameras for real photographer?
Looks pretty cool, but not much of an upgrade over E-P5, which costs like half as much nowadays.
>The EVF is now built in, cool, but flash is now external
>87% more swively screen
>1080p60 ok, but no one cares about video on lolympus
>FINALLY custom settings on mode dial instead of the retarded "Myset" shit
>Other specs mostly unchanged
>Still no PDAF in 2016 - get your shit together lolympus, you've had the tech for like 2 years
>And pls stop pushing your retarded creative modes on us
Basically a repackaged EM5 II, in a Pen body which, let's face it, is not as sexy as the EM range (which these days is 50% of the justification of buying an Olympus).
It's a shame Olympus has made such significant gains in video recently only for them to leave out a mic jack. For 1080p video, the new Olympus bodies are superb for documentary/on the go video shoots which is only possible by:
>5 Axis image stabilisation (every tog needs to see this in action)
there are two front dials, one is standard function and the new dial can undoubtedly be assigned to drive mode, wb, etc.
Olympus phase detection ONLY applies to four thirds lenses. it's not even used for mft lenses on the em1.
sexy is subjective, the authentic look of this camera down to the font used is driving people mad. Olympus video looks good on paper but actually is full of artifacting and moire, with a heinously limited Dr even in the flattest settings. they're not even trying when Panasonic has best in class video worldwide on the same mount.
>It's a shame Olympus has made such significant gains in video recently only for them to leave out a mic jack.
This for Oly EM10 Mark II. I'm hoping to use it for video but then again with no mic jack, I'll go with Panasonic.
i'm trying to decide between a EM10II or 5II myself, as a vacation/snapshitting camera. probably pair it with the P14, O25, and O40-150. is the 5II worth the extra $300 for the extra stop of IS, 1/8000 shutter, weather sealing, and 40MP mode? I prefer the tilting screen of the 10, although being able to close the screen entirely on the 5 is useful enough too. I hear the 10's OLED EVF isn't as nice as the 5's LCD panel too. I've used 5II before for shits and giggles and was pretty impressed with it.
but would it have been so hard to include it in the first place?
I'm looking for another camera to just tote around on social occasions or whatever other than my 6D and lenses which I treat as my workhouse camera. I was thinking about the Pen F but its kinda expensive, anyone else have some recommendations? Pretty inclined to go with a small M43 camera.
um no, this one is actually new. the gx8 was the first to move on from the 16mp Sony sensor to a 20mp (Panasonic?) sensor. it's actually quite impressive and seems to do away with the heavy AA trend for a much lighter one, and also has noise and dynamic range comparable to the last gen 16mp APS-C Sony sensors (Nikon, Pentax, Fuji) which is impressive and welcome.
Olympus figured that they could save space and make it available for ALL of their cameras this way. they aren't going to start including it in the bodies unless they're especially video oriented probably.
I dunno, by dxo's measurements, GX8 is a minimal improvement over the older 16mp sensors. Heavy AA was already gone on E-M5. And in terms of pure pickle count, 20mp vs 16mp translates to like what, +10% linear resolution?
A EM5 Mk II dynamic range video for you - film making on the Pen series shouldn't be made redundant due to lack of a mic jack.
Obviously, no one is saying Oly has anything on Panasonic when it comes to video but with IBIS and 77 mb/s video bitrate; the Olympus video series isn't shabby.
Please Olympus, give the Pen a mic jack. Retro hipsters want to make films too!
the bitrate on the olympus doesn't compensate for the shitty processing.
the question is, is the GX worth the extra $200? you get video, DFD making AF-C actually usable, most of the Panasonic zooms have OIS, the primes still get 3 axis IS, and the body's a bit slimmer.
>about 3 years late to the retro camera party
I guess they were one of the first but it was Fuji that did it better and made it into their own. I guess its similar to the 'HTC A9 is blatant rip off the Iphone' thing last year
And you have to get the 40mm f1.4 lens with fucking radioactive thorium.
>implying Orympus Ee-pee-wan didn't start the retro camera trend
No, it didn't, and this isn't a trend either.
R-D1 was literally a Bessa with a digital sensor hacked in, and nobody else (except Leica) made RF-style retro cameras for years.
After EP1, however, half of mirrorless cameras and high-end compacts followed rangefinder-inspired styling, and right after EM5, we've suddenly got a few retro-DSLR-styled cameras as well.
bessa =/= cuckold
bessa is work of art. hence current designers wont do anything similar, theyll refuse to do anything with interesting and strong lines. theyll do cuckolded designs aka. small for small estrogen filled girly hands, with vague aesthetics resembling a rangefinder that doesnt exists, all rounded and cute.
or abominations like the Nikon Df.
By "cameras like this" you mean cameras that clumsily cram digital guts into a body made for film, and fail to sell even to hardcore hipsters?
How the fuck is something like X-Pro2 or E-M5 plasticky, round and shiny?
And while Df is an ergonomic clusterfuck, at least it could shoot photos as good as anything else in its price range, unlike R-D1.
m4/3 is especially relevant for video, the gh4 is one of the most capable 4k video cameras on the market, and despite what others think, if size is something of concern, while fuji may have good lenses, their af still lags behind the systems Olympus and Panasonic have. On top of that I've yet to come across a system with a menu as understandable as the Olympus super control panel, painful to figure out how to turn on, but awesome once you get it.
I've used Nikon, Canon, Olympus, Panasonic, Sony, Samsung, and Pentax systems, still like Olympus the best. Besides, if you're shooting for personal enjoyment? Then it's whatever you like, cause even if you have the best camera ever made, if you hate using it, then it's not the best for you.
I've spent about £1000 on my Olympus gear. The quality is good enough for me but the form factor was the major reason I bought into the system, since I spend most of my time travelling and don't want to haul a metric shit ton of muh fool frame canikon everywhere. Not everyone needs or wants bokeh in every shot and I've never needed to shoot higher than 3200 iso. I might one day consider an old Sony a7 and a couple of adapted lenses but I'm more than happy with the results I get out of my current system.
(Also muh ibis)
Leica did a significantly better job of cramming digital guts into a film rangefinder, even on M8 with all of its problems - at least they didn't try to pass the lack of a motorized shutter as a feature. And M 240 does it almost perfectly (if you forget about the price, that is)
Because companies that make cameras and lenses want to reach a broader audience than hipsters and dentists, duh.
And I don't even understand what your problem is. How is what Fuji/lolympus make so different from what Leica makes? Yes, their retro cameras don't pretend to be carbon copies of old Fujicas or Pens, but they can stand on their own while retaining the positives of film-era design.