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I'm looking to buy some old soviet lenses for my Canon MKIII and I'd like to hear your thoughts on what would be best:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lens-MC-Helios-77M-4-USSR-lens-1-8-50-mm-M42-/191736868775?hash=item2ca4686fa7:g:ksgAAOSw4UtWRIgy
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jupiter-9-M42-for-Practica-Nikon-Canon-/262243514571?hash=item3d0eee78cb:g:wNgAAOSwpRRWmkZ5
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mir-1B-Black-37mm-f2-8-Good-cond-Flektogon-copy-for-SLR-cameras-M42-/141882169315?hash=item2108d617e3:g:f~cAAOSwqYBWn1W8
Is there any real difference outside of like the tiny bokeh differences you'll see in peoples comparison photos? Should I just go with the MM I like most? Where should I buy that M42 or w/e adapter?
Thanks for the tips guys. I'd probably use it for video on tripod or portrait photography
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>>2749365
Janell is always related. Posting a proper pic.
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Don't be the fool who buys a Mir 1B. Go for the 1 (also known as 1A). Preferably made in 1971-1974, black barrel, ZOMZ factory.
>>2749620
Hmm Ill look for that! You like that over the jupiter and helios? Why?
>>2749717
not him, but the MIR is wider. the helios and jupiter are short teles, great bokeh so portrait. mir would be more for street, some landscapes and such.
>>2749725
Hmm might just get one of the MIR A if I can find it on ebay and decide between helios/jupiter
While I have this thread up, whats the adapter ill need for the Mk3 and also what kind of filter or w.e it is will give me oval bokeh? Like the fake anamorphic shit.
Having trouble finding compatability charts
Why are you guys only talking about soviet optics? You DO realise there's a great deal more m42 lenses made in East Germany and Japan, right? And the only difference between them is higher quality control in both the german Zeiss and Japanese Asahi factories, compared to the staple jupiters and helioses. I'm not naming specific ones b/c there's literally at least a dozen primes for each classic focal length.
>>2749764
Isnt it waaaay cheaper? I know us soviets just stole the shit exactly but made it with good ass metal for very cheap
>>2749829
lol no. the 50mm helios is obscure and attained hipster common knowledge status so FFfags worldwide ramped up the prices, the 58mm helioses are dirt cheap because they came with Zenit SLRs but both the jupiters and non B1 (V1) mirs werent manufactured in large quantities and are sought-for, so again, inflated prices.
Jenna's Prakticas came with a fuckton of good 50mm primes, 28mms nearly alwaysoften cheaper than helios-44's, lots of virtually useless 135s and 200s, don't get me started on the Asahi takumars.
Unless you're physically in an ex eastern bloc country buying glass of your neighbour pensioneer or aunt, i.e. with local currency and scrap prices, ebay's prices are always set for the richest possible potential bidder, i.e. american hipsters with rich parents, so you'll be a bumbling retard to pay good money for dodgy shit hipster optics shipped overseas. Get a jap m42 from a thrift store and go use it instead of gearfagging. Almost every single "unique characteristic aspect" of a lens and how it renders contrast and stuff is readily adjustable with a slider in photoshop so unless you're enlarging prints yourself there is absolutely no practical reason to be picky about lens brands/models.
>>2749848
Thanks man , good to know. I'm pretty clueless about camera stuff, just have the money to spend and im in a related field (VFX) so want to get into this more.
The only thing that is difficult in post is changing bokeh imo.
I'm now also getting really curious about getting oval bokeh and an anamorphic look, since you seem to know this kind of stuff what would you recommend for the Canon Mk3?? Im actually more concerned about oval bokeh than giant crazy flares, but both is fine. Flares are easy in post, bokeh not so much.
If anything I really just want to work towards that suicide squad look, really digging that
>>2749894
I'm just a stingy film camera user, I've no clue about dedicated film lenses. I can this about anamorphic ones though:
Dedicated anamorphic lenses are prohibitively expensive. There are attachable anamorphic adaptors for normal lenses but for some reason people shit on those, you'd have to ask someone with experience. The real cheapo way of going about the issue is findng an anamorphic projection lens from one of the million shutdown old/small cinemas (movie theaters?) and cludging a mount to attach it to your body.,Drawbacks? fixed long focal (around 135-200mm) and no aperture. So permanent, shallow DOF bokeh and all the focusing issues that come with that. They're usually fast, too, no more than f/4, usually 2, 2.8
You really need a reply from someone who knows more on the subject.
>>2749913
Okay ill wait around for someone then, I did see a post about doing a DIY projector thing.
http://imgur.com/gallery/iTVv6
Its a pretty cool way to go for sure