What lens was used for this dreamy look?
Also vintage 40's 50's 60's thread, preferably families and portraits
Large format camera most likely 200mm with kodachrome film
>>2746691
man that looks incredible
>>2746691
Is probably right, it looks like there was some swing used because the DoF is thin but everyone is equally in focus and so is the fence while everything behind them is soft.
Shame you didn't specify what country/kind of vintage you requested, because this apparently qualifies.
>>2746708
Anyone got any different opinions than this?
>>2746734
Well considering the time period there really weren't many color options besides Kodachrome and any serious portrait photographer would be using MF or LF especially if you were corralling all your kids together and dropping the cash to have color family portraits made. The plane of focus in the OP photo seems like it was tilted too which probably makes it a view camera rather than medium format.
Here's the details for the image.
Most probably a 4x5 or maybe an 8x10 camera. The look of it is more about the fact it's LF than some magical lens. There really is nothing that compares to LF which is one reason I don't mind spending so much on it.
Focal length of lens depends on whether it was 4x5 or 8x10 but looks more or less a standard so anything around 150mm for 4x5 or 300mm for 8x10.
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>>2746742
If you don't know, don't fucking come up with stupid guesses.
It's clearly not a family portrait - it's a stock photo. It took me 2 mins to track the details down. I've posted the details above.
MF? Seriously? Tilted? WTF. There's no tilt at all. There's swing - which is pretty evident from the fact that there's a fucking fence running at an oblique angle to the film plane and their whole bodies are in focus.
>>2746838
>I'BS A PHOBAGRABBER I KNOWE LATSO STUFF
calm down lol
>>2746838
Oh no I accidentally called a swing a tilt, guess I better commit sudoku now that I've been exposed by anon.
>>2746734
uh no he's pretty on point. maybe focal length is a little different, who knows, but he's definitely close.
>>2746838
you're very very, dumb if you think a family portrait can't be licensed as a stock photo lol.
I reckon it's a slightly cropped 6 x 6 on Kodachrome 64. I reckon that's a Rolleflex shot.
Just guessin'
I scanned some old pictures for my mother, may as well post them here, even if they are not as nice as OP pic.
Grandmother visiting my grandfather when he was working in Svalbard.
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Grandfather in Svalbard
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Shit, I posted from the non-resized folder, sorry.
Grandfather working in his Svalbard office.
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>>2746869
this is the shit, anon. fucking awesome
Grandmother and grandfather
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Grandfather and mother
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Uncle
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Mother in the hospital with some random kid she befriended and who later died in that bed.
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Mother in the hospital
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Mother, siblings, some friends and the dog, Lady.
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NYE, ready for trick and treating
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Same as above
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I saved my favorite for last, my grandfather in his boat.
If anyone want a high resolution file of this to try and help me restore it, let me know.
I'd like to have it printed big as a birthday present for my mother.
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my dad, one of his friends and some neighbor at Spain in 1970 (not as vintage as OP requested, sry).
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>>2746845
You're very dumb if you think that image is typical of a 1950s family photoalbum portrait and families in the 50s just went around starting stock photography libraries.
>>2746886
It would take 2 minutes to "restore" that
>>2746742
>>2746843
It always goes like this...
- I think it's bigger than 35mm --> I've heard the terms MF and LF before --> I'll indiscriminately use those terms even though they're not alike.
- It's old and in colour --> I've heard the term Kodachrome a lot --> I'll use the term Kodachrome
- The DOF looks different than 35mm --> I've heard the term tilt --> I'll use the term tilt
>>2746913
You noticed all that?
I only got the sweet dof and deep tones :)
>>2746913
Not that anon, but
>implying its not mf or lf
>implying its not kodachrome
>implying you cant use tilt to get an angled plane of focus
You fucking dildo.
>>2746919
You dumbfuck. I'm saying it is LF. I'm criticizing that anon for vaguely guessing with no idea of what he was saying.
You can you use tilt (obviously) but that's not used here. If tilt was used their feet and the grass would be out of focus. Swing is used - completely obvious even without the massive clue of the fence.
People use the term tilt without a fucking clue about LF movements. They just use tilt to refer to everything regardless of whether it was rise, fall, swing, tilt, front standard, rear standard, etc...
>>2746914
Basic LF movements are very obvious to spot if you look. Even if you don't need the large resolution of LF the movements are fantastic to work with both for flexibility in getting the image and creative options.
>>2746886
switch to cmyk and a lack of cyan becomes obvious, then switch back to rgb and fix the inevitable blue shadows with a lum masked temperature adjustment
>>2746691
Goddamn those old kodachromes look good.
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>>2746838
>It's clearly not a family portrait - it's a stock photo.
this is bait, right?
>>2746874
Ben?
old man Ben?
>>2746987
It was photographed by H Armstrong Roberts. As in the photographer who started one of the first stock photography libraries. The details are posted above.
Do you think families in the 50s went around taking family snapshots on 8x10?
>>2746871
Love this one cats
>>2746691
This image is so white its fucking hurts
:^)
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>>2746994
>Do you think families in the 50s went around taking family snapshots on 8x10?
No, but that alone doesn't stop it being a family portrait. portraits used to be a fancy affair where you'd get dressed in your best shit and hire a guy with the gear.
My parents got a pro to come to our house to take pics of me when I was 3.
>>2746994
>Do you think families in the 50s went around taking family snapshots on 8x10?
Do you think that families in the 50s never paid a photographer to make a portrait of them?
>>2747071
>>2747046
That's like looking at an oil painting from the C17th and claiming that anyone could have one. Theoretically, yes. Likely, no.
You can usually tell the origin of an image quite quickly. Just as modern fashion photography is instantly recognizable so too is this particular style from this era in the US.
>We will never get a film similar to Kodachrome with a ASA over 200
>>2747135
I'm absolutely willing to beieve this is a staged shot with models, I just don't get the reasoning that rules it out as a professional family portrait.
>>2746924
Dude, you sound so mad it's hilarious.
Top zozzle
>>2746838
dude it's YOU who doesn't know the difference between tilt and shift.
If they are all in focus at an angle that isn't parallel to the camera's film back, that's tilt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilt%E2%80%93shift_photography
>>2746924
You're right, but wrong to expect more from this shit site. These fuckwads will argue the wrong thing into they're blue in the face and pat themselves on the back the whole time.
Best to just hide the thread.
>>2747206
>If they are all in focus at an angle that isn't parallel to the camera's film back, that's tilt.
Not every lens is shot wide open, fucktard. How do you know this wasn't shot at f/8 or so? The wife's back and the front of the fence on the right can't be more than 5 feet depth.
>>2747224
you are just embarrassing yourself, stop
>>2747253
He is embarassing you, i think.
>>2747256
They're both embarrassing themselves.
>>2747258
Yeah, you're right. But i think the aggro guy is still right.
Re the argument about OP pic, the grass on the path behind them isn't evenly out of focus even though it's parallel to the family and the fence.
I don't think there's any swing and I'm not going to flip out if someone said tilt when they meant swing.
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>tfw just found some of your grandfathers slides and it's kodachrome from 1960
>>2746872
Yeah, I like these kind of things myself, glad you enjoyed it.
>>2746910
for you
>>2746959
thx for the effort, but I have agree with >>2747104
, maybe I'll just keep it as is, and only clear the dust
>>2747015
I think that's my second favorite, great setting, and he looks badass typing on the typewriter with a cigarette
>>2747194
I'm told we look very much alike, and he was.
Unfortunately he's dead now, along with grandma.
I have a shit ton of their old negs to scan, may bump the thread with them later.
>tfw it's all Kodak Gold
>>2747337
Come on man. I need me some old Kodak.
>>2746880
r.i.p
>>2746924
Dude, swing and tilt are the same thing. Except one phrase is actually used. Or are you implying a TILT/shift lens can't be rotated - which just goes to show how much of a fantasy gear nerd you really are, because you have no fucking clue on the actual equipment and it's use.
The angry autism has reached new heights today.
Has anyone considered instant film? the colours look super reminiscent of polaroid 669.
>>2747638
They're not the same thing, One is for up/down movement and one is is left/right movement. Have you ever even used a large format camera?
>>2746882
Did I improved it or did I fucked it more?
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