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ITT: Brenizer method
Just tried it with the trailer outside.

Any tips or methods?
Usually doesn't work this well for me.

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aww omg a kiss x4 in the wild
how adorable

use a very long lens. 200mm worked well for me. even if your aperture is f/6.3 you may still get a very good result. think about how large format gets it's thin depth of field at even f/8.

take a lot of pictures, more than you think you need around the edges to avoid cropping in, in post
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>>2741168
>aww omg a kiss x4 in the wild
I can't wait to not be poor

>use a very long lens. 200mm worked well for me.
I'll try soon, will post result
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What program do you use for stitching OP? How many photos did you use?

I want to try this very soon. IMO using this technique effectively makes medium and large format obsolete
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>>2741216
>IMO using this technique effectively makes medium and large format obsolete
Especially when used for shots of people or things that don't sit still!
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>Yuro branded camera
>picture of a crusty old trailer in someone's yard

couldn't be truer if you tried. the only thing missing is a chicken.
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>>2741216
>>2741217

Why do people have this notion that shallow DOF is always a desirable, most important aspect of MF/LF, rather than an unavoidable byproduct of the required focal lenghts?
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>>2741216
Photoshop
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>>2741218
Wanted to see if it would work, not caring about subject atm.
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I finally figured out if you stitch each line in the grid first then stitch the lines vertically photoshop can get it nearly every time.

Another snapshit.

>Cute 24mm STM for my cute Kiss X4
>50mm f2 used for the trailer snapshit
>Shot on the canon 70-300
Dont worry I was given the 70-300 for free

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>>2741224
I think it's just declaring of how important a single or certain aspect in your photo is.

It's basically distributing the importance as i see it.

Have lots of stuff you want to lay focus on like a group of people, or a field with flowers, just notch the diafragm up a bit.

Want one single aspect in your picture to be in the center of attention? tune it down a bit.

Back when digital didn't exist this was a lot more important than it is now.
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>>2741217
How often do you use MF or LF for anything other than portraits or landscape you fuckass
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>>2741224
The shallow dof looks attractive and with the B Method you can also get much
more detail and a much more large resolution than with a single wide lens shot

How is that so hard to understand?

Instead you guys get triggered as fuck over the slightest bokeh in any fucking picture. For fucks sake. It's a cool effect. No, your photos should not have to rely on it. Doesnt mean you need to over react when it's there.
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Anyone got some pics?
Going to try some with my friend tomorrow instead of making snapshits, but I will try a couple more now.
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>>2741237
forgot pic

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>>2741233 #
>Back when digital didn't exist this was a lot more important than it is now.
No. Cause and effect anon, don't mix up the two. Back when high iso small area (large dof) digi sensors didn't exist and you were limited to a single unchangeable film speed (back when iso200 was ultra fast film) and still wanted an enlargeable, handheld shot you were forced to use slow shutter speeds (mf's neg size made it lenient with slight camera shake or getting spot-on focus) and shoot wide open or not shoot at all. Shallow dof in bad/subpar lighting or when faster shutter speeds were required was an imposed necessity, not an important desireable feature. You were taught to shoot/compose with it in mind because there were no other options. The technical drawback/limitation was important, but you make it sound like something warranted, welcome. Notching the diafragm a bit, yeah, I wish.

>>2741235 #
> you can also get much more detail and a much more large resolution than with a single wide lens shot
All that out of focus blurry high-res bokeh smudge detail, yeah.
I never said it's not a cool/welcome effect, nigger, I use/like it, that's not my gripe in that post.
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>>2741218
>Yuro branded camera

It's a Kiss, which means that it is the Japanese version, anon. Get your shit right. In Europe, it'd be an EOS xxxD

Enjoy your RABAL, murrifag.
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>>2741234
Rude. About 50% of the time.
>>2741224
I don't have that impression at all. I personally hate shallow DOF.
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OP here, its funny cause I live in NZ so it should be a 550D, but it second hand which happens to be jap, cause who would buy a rabal new?
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Someone else post actual real use of this?
Last snapshit and I'll try tommorow.

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>>2741160
- use microsoft ice
- keep the same white balance and focus for a set of pictures
- if you want to edit the stitched end product import & export in .tiff

basically everything you need to know
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>>2741224
it's the one thing that cell phone cameras will never achieve, so it differentiates your pics from the crowd a bit
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>>2741294
>it's the one thing that cell phone cameras will never achieve
Think again
http://googleresearch.blogspot.nl/2014/04/lens-blur-in-new-google-camera-app.html
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>>2741314
>lens-blur
>camera-app

kindly fuck off?
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>>2741315
They actually build a somewhat accurate depth map for the lens blur, could get pretty good in future times.
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>>2741339

i saw it, saw a selfie with applied bokeh too, looked retarded.
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>>2741343
Yea I'm just saying, why you gotta get this mad over innovation gramps?
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>>2741347
it's a terrible-looking emulation of something we can already do with a camera not embedded in a phone

it's not innovation, it's a step backward
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>>2741355
You said
>it's the one thing that cell phone cameras will never achieve
and I pointed to some research that shows you're wrong. I never said it's great quality or indistinguishable from MF but it might become so.
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>>2741502
you're talking to two different people and "it might become so" doesn't make either of us wrong, it means we might be wrong in the far future.

as it stands, if you want enough detail to get the depth of an object you need many photos (photogrammetry as an example is very cool but limited) and if you want to also get the depth of the background you need photos of that as well, and every little detail in-between.

there isn't going to be a comfy take one photo and it figures out the depth from your current position alone solution, lightfield cameras at a portable size are going to be flawed from physical constraints of perspective.

there is no and will be no replacement for a real lens blur reacting to distance, unless you're seriously willing to take your mobile phone, walk around, and archive every aspect of an entire scene to recreate in 3D because you couldn't be bothered to get a camera.
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Finally got around to doing one with a person.
Photoshop stitched it very well.

Any anons gonna post there's?

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>>2741966

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>>2741966
sure i'll post some to trigger the aspect ratio aspies...also with a trip

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>>2741977

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>>2741978

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>>2741977
>>2741978

2muchvsco
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>>2741979

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>>2741983

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>>2741981
i wouldn't look under this comment then ;^)
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>>2741986

Yeah, I definitely should have waited.
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These are fun to do. PTGui is the *only* way to go for stitching.

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>>2741998
OP here, just tried PTGui ripped off pirate bay.
Far superior to photoshop.
Here's a shitty interior of my room atm.

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>>2742040
Best feature is that even on an image that's difficult to solve, you can set enough points manually and it works out.

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>>2742067
>>2741998
Both of these are exposure bracketed for each image, PTGui took the raws and everything.
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>>2741998
>>2742067
Beautiful.
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>>2742067
I'll try raw soon
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>>2741998
>>2742067
>weeb moto
>SEB
I really want your motorcycle bruv
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from a few years ago. I should give it another go
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>>2742694
Bikes are pretty affordable. You should get one.
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>>2741998
>>2742040
PTGui is a lot better than photoshop, but Microsoft ICE is pretty great too. You can't set points manually, which is a shame, but I haven't found myself using PTGui at all since I use ICE.
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>>2742845
On that note, didn't the new Lightroom add an option to do panorama stitching within the program?
And does PTGui keep the raw format or can't you edit the picture after you stitched it anymore?
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>>2742847
I don't think you can export to RAW, but I know you can keep things 16 (or 32) bit from start to finish.
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>>2741998
>>2742067
Really nice!
In brenizer method, does it make a lot of difference if you rotate the camera on the true nodal point, like it does in panoramas?
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>>2742900
Depends how much you're trying to bite off. Attached is one of the images from mine, you can tell I tool a LOT of exposures. Had the camera on a tripod, locked focus and exposure, then took frames overlapping by about half for an entire row, starting at the centre, then panned up half a frame, then did the same thing for another row, and another, etc.

If you were just snapping the subject overlapping like 2 frames, you could do it handheld and be fine. You'd probably be able to do one like this handheld too if you were very good at remembering which frame you took last. That (organization) is really a more compelling reason to use something like a tripod rather than running into optics/perspective issues. PTGui is pretty fantastic at correcting for that. I even did one of these with a monopod, just something to keep the camera moderately still is very helpful.

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>>2742900
For this one >>2741966 I just used 75mm on a crop body handheld.
At closer distance it probably would matter cause DOF would change too much as you moved.
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i've seen people do this an understood why... but the pictures posted here you don't need to do this..
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>>2741160
While doing photos with the LargeFormatBontular8000™ method :
Do you just rotate your body/tripod ballhead from the spot you're taking pics
Or
Do you move laterally in order not to bulge the perspective ?
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>>2743298
rotate from tripod.
Unless your doing a far away landscape with a slider.
Photoshop, PTGui, Microsoft ICE etc have rectilinear projection to correct this.

>>2742040
This room I did was with a cheap pan head tripod
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>>2743296
Most of these are just trying the method out.
>>2742040
this one needed it cause I dont have any UWA lenses, and my widest is my 24mm on crop.
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>>2743302
>Unless your doing a far away x
but everyone says to use a long focal
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>>2743312
sorry, for stitching panoramas, not specifically the Brenizer method

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How do you guys decide on the aspect ratio for your final product? I don't feel like I'm creative enough for anything other than the standard 3:2 ratio!
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>>2743392
My ones above happen to be that cause thats how they were stitched.

Usually when I make better tier snapshits I look at the standard ratios
>3:1
>3:2
>5:4
>4:3
Then see what suits best.
Usually I decide before I take the picture though.
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>>2743392

1:1 is the best ratio.
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>>2743418
idek how I forgot that
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You really need a few things to make this whole method work well.

1. The right environment. This includes a decent background that: A) Has good depth & shows perspective B) Isn't distracting C) Will blur nicely

2. Something other than the subject in the foreground that will provide context

3. Good, steady subject

4. Careful planning, calm conditions

Attached is one of my only attempts. Fuck my life for trying to get moving waves, handheld Brenizer to work together. Not a great result - but with an 85mm lens. Does have a larger format look.
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I think the problem with all these pictures is that the bokeh is unnecessary.

>>2743471
I think this would look nice all in focus, obviously you could still use the brenizer method to get the frame.
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>>2743471
baka, this girl kills Bart and now she going to the Caribbean with the insurance money. stone cold.
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>>2743392
I like doing 2.4:1, like anamorphic aspect ratio

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>>2743507
looks cinematic with the way you edit as well
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>>2743527
thanks, I try

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rate

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>>2743581
Festive/10
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>>2743588
great post, totally needed a tripcode
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some lenses just are not cut for this type of shooting. 85mm f1.8D Nikkor is one of them. disgusting bokeh with lot of chromatic aberration.

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105mm f2.8 VR micro-nikkor is better...

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...but it can't beat the almost fully apochromatic Sigma lenses, here's one with 180mm f2.8 OS

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>>2743596
Slick. How many frames tall/wide is this? What software are you using to stitch?
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>>2743591
thanks, post is done in after effects with various cg effects
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>>2743591
Great shitposting, derailing a thread to complain about a name field. Not surprised to see it coming from anon. sucks that one of the two of you is commenting on a photo, and the other is being a dick about something that isn't related to photography at all!
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>>2743616
>Not surprised to see it coming from anon
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>>2743596
holy fug
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>>2743596
>>2743594
I don't know what but I dislike these. The blur just reminds me of that shitty "tiny" filter that comes on cheap cameras and phones.
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Kinda off-topic : when I crop pictures, the perspective crop is gross and it's pretty obvious it was cropped, and it's ugly

Is there a way to emulate the distortion ? I know there are tools for this in LR/PS, but how to do it properly ?
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>>2744030

wat
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My first and really only attempt at it from a month ago

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>>2744040

DADDDD PLEASE JUST STAND STILL FOR ONE MINUTE
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>>2744041
yeah pretty much
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>>2743507
>2.4:1
TRIGGERED
7:3, 2.35:1 & 65:24 are the only qt AR's.
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It would be nice if y'all could post how many shots you stitched for each pic, cuz right now I have no idea if it's 4, 9 or 100.
I took this of my dog once with just 3 portrait shots (1 subject and 2 background) next to each other, does that count as brenizer? I hear people use this method for wedding portrait's but you can't really stitch people back together from 20 shots can you?
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>>2744179

i wish i had a dog.
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>>2744206
there's a shelter dog that wishes they had you
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>>2744030
PTGui. Photoshop is really ill-suited to complex stitching.
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>>2744179
For the OP and the others I posted including the one with a person, there were about 30.
With people its a little easier than a dog unless the dog is laying down.
3 counts, you just don't get as "impressive" results/
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>>2744040
Like the face, and the tree
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>>2744209

T_T
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>>2743594
This is a great shot, really like the composition here.
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I just found out about this technique but after checking it out on flickr I got the usual cancerous experience. Most people went full tard with it and overuse it: +100 shots compositions, f 0.2... shit like that. It looks hideous and artificial as fuck.

Which sucks cause if used well it can be an amazing way to shoot medium format for poorfags. Pic related looks awesome, but I couldn't find many more examples.

I want to try this with larger DOFs, you know, to actually make some photography instead of jerking off to bokeh. Will report back if I have the time to shoot something this week.

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>>2746443
This one looks very nice, anon. Also, what a qt.
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>>2746443
post links to cancer brenzier
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>>2743559
You might as well just crop to square with this one bro
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>>2746443
>I want to try this with larger DOFs, you know, to actually make some photography instead of jerking off to bokeh.
Yeah that's just called a stitched panoramic and they work great. It only counts as brenizer cancer if you shoot it with absolutely nothing in focus.
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>>2744209

i know man. but i live in a tiny appartment and, oh well.
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>>2742067
what focal distance did you use?
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>>2741998
FUUUUGGGG I need to try this with my bike
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>>2746535
Pic related is a good example. Looks like shit tier photoshop blurring.
Also, because many lenses don't feature a smooth transition between what is in focus and what isn't that abruptness only adds up to the general shitty feel of the photo.
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>>2746923
this kills all interest in brenizer method
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>>2743507
that's brenizer ?
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>>2746923

Why does this photo look like this? Did somebody blur the background in Photoshop? Are they trying to emulate DOF/bokeh or something?
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>>2746443
>mfw sharpness 0%
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>>2741160
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>>2749694
very nice. masking in photoshop, or did things just line up nicely?
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>>2747402
really unnatural lighting on subject and surrounding rocks is the main thing. guy either went wayyy overboard on dodge and burn or had different exposures in the stitch
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>>2749702
It´s not Brenizer method. I cheated. I Used a 5D + a 70-200 2.8L
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>>2746923
She looks really tiny like 50cm tops.
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>>2746653
That's 85mm with an APS-C sensor.

>>2746790
Makes even my busted SV look cool. I think.
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>>2746443
I took some shots yesterday and I'm pretty pleased with what came out so far (technique-wise at least). As I expected, this shit is bananas if used properly.

Pic related was put together using 4 horizontal photos (which I find it's the sweetspot for a vertical 645 frame). I used a Canon 40D and a 37mm @ f 2.8.

Dis is gud. I will be using it a lot from now on.

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>>2750549

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>>2750553

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>>2750557

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is this as awesome as it sounds?
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>>2749694
So how do you do this if everyone is moving about?
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>>2750559
This one took 6 shots.

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>>2752154

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>>2752155

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>>2752154
All that hassle for a blurry traffic pole?
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>>2742696
Slightly unrelated but how does one achieve this look? It's like ideal indoor lighting.
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>>2752158
It's not even a real 'Brenizer' shot, either.
What Mr. Brenizer was trying to achieve is getting a 'medium format' look by stitching together multiple shots taken with a tele(prime) and a very wide aperture so you can emulate the DoF of an MF camera or some even crazier format.
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Just buy a 4x5 or an 8x10 camera.
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These look great. As a nubcake to /p/ how do I tell a Brenizer photo by looking at it?
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>>2752575
the pipxel,
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>>2752495
yes, but most go overboard with the whole idea. some of his own pictures on his web look great, because while he is after shallow DOF he doesn't overdo it.

>>2752158
it was only meant for testing purposes, due to the complex perspective (vertical lines are a bitch). took some work but I'm still trying new things to make post less of a pain
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This is more like it. 50mm @ f 1.4
I'm loving this.

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>>2753861
czechia ?
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is there any way to get microsoft ice without having to install all the shit microsoft asks to add first? like a portable version?
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Postin in brenisöar thred.

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>>2753890
kek holy shit those distortions. this is exactly why you do not use wide lenses(<50mm), especially on close subjects because those wide angle distortions and parallax do not work well at all during the stitching process.
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>>2753890
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>>2753936
yfw that's what she actually looks like
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>>2753890
broken leg
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>>2753890
Classic.
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>>2753888
North of Spain.
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