Why haven't you bought land in Colorado? Set up a water well, septic tank, and solar power and you can live off grid forever. Or build a nice getaway cabin. What's stopping you?
>$44 annual property taxes
$2k will pay that for fifty years
That's literally nothing. My property taxes in Texas is a few grand and I live in the city on less than a quarter acre of property.
I personally wouldn't want to build a cabin on dry semi-arid scrubland devoid of any trees, rivers, or hunting game.
I like how they chose a pic with a dusting of snow so you can't tell just how dry that area is.
Sometimes I wonder if I just went deep, deep into the woods and built a cabin (not owning any land), would anyone find me or care if I just lived on it for 10 years? Owning land isn't everything when you get the same security when you compare the stress of finances with that of someone finding you.
Fuck off, we're full. Hippies and deadbeats from out of state buying cheap land to live on already shat things up (literally) to the point where locals had to enforce and/or pass laws to effect what was once common courtesy and then the cunts started whining about it. They're just as bad as the yuppies and their pet minorities that have been poisoning the wells in Denver and most of the rest of the Front Range for the last couple of decades. I'll never understand why they insist on doing this stupid shit here instead of down in New Mexico; Taos is full of space cadets and mooncalfs and most of that entire state is shitty, scrubby desert just like the San Luis valley.
>t. grew up in the next county over
This thread piqued my curiosity so I spent the last few hours looking at land in my general (500 or so miles) area. Could be very do-able even though I live in the inflated and overpopulated northeast.
Need to figure out minimum acreage, must be near water, preferably lots of water, lake/ocean/pond/river. The water is what's making it difficult.
>buying land that isnt fertile enough to grow your own food.
An "average" human needs roughly 1/4-1/3 of an acre of land to be able to harvest enough food to sustain him/herself for one entire year. That is assuming you get a 100 yield from what you planted, which you wont get.
Good luck building a green house that big m8.
I like the ocean and being away from ranchers, "patriots", and ATVs.
Yeah, it fucking is. We already had enough shitbird Texans buying summer homes here but then the Californians and east coasters started showing up because DUDE COST OF LIVING LMAO and it snowballed from there.
It is a nice state and people want to move there yes. But lately it's the place to be and the huge influx of people lately is changing a lot of the things that make it nice in the first place and it's not just about the scenery. The cost of living is steadily climbing, the jobs are even more demand and the "legal" weed isn't exactly drawing in the best and brightest. I would love to move back to Colorado and one day I may do so but I don't think I'll be finding another little 2br with a fenced in yard for 800 a month. Seriously, if you visit any of the larger cities make it a point to ask people where they're originally from. There's ask reason you see those native stickers on the bumpers
The question is which poor state is next. Hopefully Montana is spared for a few decades.
Colorado is a pretty shit state to live in. All the good wilderness area is already owned by the government and the politics of the state is ran by the cities. So basically you get your choice of the shitty scrub land living in the boonies while under the state law of urban living shit lords.
no thanks. will visit, wont stay.
>All the good wilderness area is already being protected by the government
FTFY, senpai. I'll take a state that holds land in trust for the people over a state that has no public recreation.
I am not going to argue with an idiot that really believes people cannot cooperative for a common benefit unless its under the magical government.
also learn the difference between preservation and conservation. the government leases lands to industry and private recreation firms all the time.
>Why haven't you bought land in Colorado?
Bc I live in Scandinavia. If i lived somewhere where i could get ~100+ acres for less than $100k then I would buy. In some years ill buy a place in the based swedish nature. Where i can spend my summers.
It's about concealing your improvements, so the taxman doesn't hammer you. I live in a county that is ridiculous about nickeling and diming people to death. I heard about a guy that installed a short antenna to get better tv reception and ran guy wires to small 18"X18" concrete pads in addition to the 18"X18" pad that the antenna sat on. The county increased his taxes for building five "patios" on his property. When he complained, they told him "What do you care, we're only charging you $5 a piece."
My rage when my little worthless county is responsible for more than half of all the tax protests for the entire state, because of the shady ways they do things. I went to a tax protest court hearing, and the state hearing officer turned purple with rage, when he asked my local tax assessor why they increased my 40 acre property in $27,000 evaluation during one year, and the local tax assessor could only shrug his shoulders and say "I don't know."
So now if put down a concrete pad as a base for something, I cover it with gravel, because gravel driveway tax evaluations don't cost anything compared to concrete, and I can have a nice level driveway without getting eaten alive by the parasites.
Alaska is better if you are seriously considering this. Oil is ruining our economy and land is hitting rock bottom because there's no jobs.
No job for you either, probably. But if you can make a living off of 3g internet, doing freelance programming work, its a seriously awesome deal. Took the plunge a couple years back and will never live anywhere else.
Living off grid always seemed cool at first, but I'm not really sold on the concept. No matter what, you will still need some amount of income to make a go of it and I think many people just have too many conveniences in urban living that would be really tough to give up.
It would be fun as a project to get some land somewhere and build your own shed/cabin. The only problem is that, at the end of it, you'd have this shed out in the woods that you'd have to go out there to keep an eye on. I suppose you could sell it afterward, but could you even get your money back on it?
There is a guy on youtube that does a lot of videos I enjoy about offgrid.
He even has plans and stuff to do this. I believe he lives out there full time now.