>gun >unseful against animals that can't harm you >not useful against animals that could harm you whatever bro if you want to go shooting things just do it and embrace it for what it is, and don't search for justification
>>677225 No he doesn't but he's almost 20 years in at the company and drives an exclusive route (he's the only one allowed to drive) also he has certain permits allowing him to carry chemicals for pools and shot so that helps a bit
Grizzlies get a hell of a lot bigger. Blackies are like big dogs. A grizzly is 9 ft tall in some rare cases.
Just make sure u keep ur food hung and at least 60 ft away from camp
Keep ur eyes out for tracks and bear shit. Stay away from their cubs. If your gonna fish have one person standing sentry.
I've had one do a fake charge and I just about pissed myself. I didn't have a gun. Will never ever make that mistake again. If I were u I'd look at juneau. Lots of good trails. U can get there by ferry.
There's also a hostel/ good campgrounds in town so if you need a break while /out/ you can take it. I know people that will come up here and spend the whole summer just camping and hiking and fishing. Also look up mendenhall glacier ice caves and ask yourself if u really wanna go fuck around in denali. I live up here and I don't go fucking around north of anchorage at least with a truck.
>>677207 Also, Juneau has decent public transportation so u can get around to different trails easier. If I were u I'd think about flying to seattle, taking the ferry up to Juneau or Sitka. and spend a month exploring. Just bring rain gear
Only one person has ever been killed by a bear in the entire history of Denali National park.
It's not really a concert.
Bears just don't kill people very often at all.
You can shoot a bear that does not want to attack you. A bear that does want to attack you, will do so much MUCH quicker than you could ever draw and fire your gun. Even then, with a VERY large cailber, you'd need an absolute perfect headshot to take down a charging grizzly bear. A grizzly will just keep charging, even if it's wounded badly enough to be fatal, it will maul and charge for a few minutes before it bleeds out unless it's a perfect shot with a large caliber.
I would however carry bear spray, as it can deter a bear that becomes territorial or aggressive.
>>677170 /k/ here. Youre fucking stupid. A full sized rifle will take down anything on God's green earth. Bring a bolt gun in something like 7.62x54r, .308, .30-06, .30-30, etc. Now git you dirty hippie.
OP if your a green horn up here stick to SE alaska. Save denali for later. Juneau is a small city with everything you should need if you need a break and it's mostly black bear here. Don't do denali if you don't have wheels.
A much much more valuable use of your time is to learn proper bear safe storage techniques. The most important is keeping all of your food in a bear canister, and hanging it appropriately. Then learn to recognize bear sign. Buy a book on it. Read it cover to cover twice.
Once you've learned those and have the time and money to learn what you're doing, sure.
The most important thing is to think of it as you're going to act exactly how you would if you didn't have a gun (seriously, try image training to make decisions as if you didn't have a gun on you; train yourself to instinctively recognize and shut down thoughts like, "Well, I have my gun, so maybe I shouldn't worry about going in that direction."); except for when a bear is actually literally attacking you, you can draw and use it and maybe live when you otherwise wouldn't've.
Assuming you're not otherwise hunting, you probably want to get a small extremely high caliber revolver with a heavy rubber handle. You will want to put in literally fifty to a hundred hours firing specifically that gun before you can even think of protecting yourself with it.
Aside from that I've never been. I hear it's super beautiful. Make sure you bring multiple methods of making emergency signals.
>>677865 There's a big difference. Once again if you're new to AK would suggest south east alaska first (it's the size of Florida so there is a lot to see). Most people going to Denali are either experienced mountaineers or they have a type of RV basecamp. If you fuck up in SE there are hospitals, air stations etc to help you out. In Denali you might be waiting a while.
Also, don't listen to the pathological faggot saying: >Muh one recorded bear attack
Don't become #2 Also look up bear attack averages on the continent then make a decision
Serioulsy, faggot in aforementioned reply above thinks:
>hurry durr it's a denali 700 lb bear it won't hurt me, I'll spray it with pepper spray which works on 1/2 of humans in general
>>678101 I have no point of reference. I just want to see what I can relate it to. I'm getting a lot of conflicting info in this thread. Is it like Tahoe or Appalachians or is it its own thing I need to experience first hand?
>>677501 hURR Durr I browse the weapons board. It's not about what will simply do the job, it's about what will slow down the 600 pounds of fury BEARing down on your ass faster than you can think. Literally everyone in the forestry service where i'm from carries a 12 gauge for grizzlies because they have the stopping power needed. Stop fucking telling people a high calibre bolt gun is what they need because you could get someone killed.
>>677179 Wrong You can have ammo on planes it needs to be stored in a similar fashion to the firearm You choose You are allowed to store it in the same case as the rifle Literally just google tsa rules >>677171
>>679033 Definitely not. Unless they tell you to bring a 12 gauge with slugs and a tube with no less than 5 rounds. /k/ seems (in general) uninformed about outdoor activities, just look at their "innawoods guides," complete garbage advice.
>>678114 It's almost 3 hours from anchorage I'd you fuck up or wanna leave it'll be hard
Juneau has everything close by. Need a tent - Fred meyer. Fall and Crack your skull - hospital. Get lost - coast guard air station sitka. Rains about the same at denali. Way more mosquitoes in denali. Want to check out multiple trails in one day? Legit bus system and taxis. Mostly black bear too.
>>677170 >not useful against animals that could harm you
.22lr can kill anything in the world, .308 can kill anything in the world reliably
that said, I would see if i could find a combination gun in .22lr/30something or 40something. Because .22lr is great for plinking, and if you see a tasty wabbit, 30anything will kill whatever seeks to harm you pretty easily.
>>681475 >>681475 >30-06 can kill anything in the world. .50 can kill anything in the world reliably.
On a serious note, I hate the ".22lr literally can't kill anything but rabbits" meme, but for anything much bigger other than humans it's pretty much useless. If you shoot a pig with a .22 the round is liable to barely even get all the way through the hide and fat, most likely not through the skull.
>tl;dr There are minimum calibres for certain game for a reason, take right weapon for the job instead of fooling yourself into thinking one projectile fits all.
>>677165 >going anywhere >not bringing a gun >going to alaska >not bringing a cannon
>>677217 >when guns becoming 100% illegal and criminalized you antigunners really are the worst. when guns are criminalized i'm still going to have one or two or however many i want. they will never ever, no matter how much you hope and pray to obama and marx, be able to collect and dispose of all guns in america. if by some miracle the government was 100% effective in collecting all guns, it wont be the end of guns for the public. i'll start making them in my garage and sell them for a great profit. i'll be rolling in money. so fuck you. guns are going nowhere.
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