I don't care for tacticool shit either but to play devil's advocate.
>Not as customizable >Most ospreys and deuters only have one or two pouches and are a bitch to organize and use for anything other than lightweight hiking packs. >They sacrifice durability and practicality to keep weight down. >They feel cheap considering what they cost.
If you want to have a dedicated backpack for hiking, they're the most comfortable no doubt but I find most military wannabe shit to be better for day-to-day.
You can't really argue with the quality of a goruck or mystery ranch. They're buy once, cry once bags.
>>675870 >>Not as customizable Correct >>Most ospreys and deuters only have one or two pouches and are a bitch to organize and use for anything other than lightweight hiking packs. No, they both have several hundred models, and thats just two makers, there are hundreds more, you can get exactly what you are looking for with the perfect amount and placement of pouches >>They sacrifice durability and practicality to keep weight down. No, only UL models do. There are many makers that offer tanks. I'm pretty sure several Bach packs would make it trough the fall and second rise of mankind without a hickup. >>They feel cheap considering what they cost. Whut? Ever seen a Gregory or a Mammut pack from close?
You got some serious prejudice there hombre. If milspec would be so great, everybody would use them for hiking or mountaineering, but everybody seems to prefer the real backpacks. So if you don't need to strap a medpack or extra ammo pouches to your pack, then there is not much need for a molle pack, xcept /fa/ ofc.
>>676242 you're using emotion in what should be a logical thought process. Actual mil-spec stuff generally uses cheaper components, because it's made by the lowest bidder. There's also very little incentive to keep weight down, only cost per unit, so why use the more expensive ultralight fabric when the heavier, cheaper cordura will do?
Beyond that, Osprey in particular has a no questions asked lifetime guarantee. I could light my pack on fire right now, send it in and get a brand new one. Not aware of any military themed pack companies who do that.
I generally find that decent molle packs make better *work* packs for me in my field of employment, since I can strap random shit to them a lot easier. If moving to different job sites on short notice wasn't a concern, I might consider a separate set of stuff just for backpacking.
>>678277 >Actual mil-spec stuff generally uses cheaper components, because it's made by the lowest bidder You mean the military pays the lowest price to the contractor that meets their specifications. If mil-spec is cheap it's because the military specifically asked for it to be cheap.
>>678239 A) straps not fitted to you B) to much weight for the frame
Normally the frame transfers all the weight to the frame which transfers it to your hips via hipbelt and in the end there should be only little to no weight on your shoulders, but all on your hips. Now this is the theory. If you have broad shoulders/chest (doyouevenlift), you might need at pack that fits you better (broader back, S type straps). And if you overweight the pack in relation to its frame, you gonna get the same problem.
Check what weightclass you 'll need, go to store, ask about packs in that class, try different loaded packs, check which one fits you best. You can get pretty reasonable prices if you buy last seasons gear (which is mostly the same as this seasons gear, just a different color).
If you need milspec and also need to haul heavy, there are several European makers that have internal/external frame packs for military use (Savotta, Berghaus, Bergans). In most situations you are better off with just a regular hiking pack.
>>678285 While I haven't set my osprey pack on fire I have dealt with their returns before and they stitched up my pack pretty good, and even took apart places I had made on trail repairs and fixed them much sturdier than I had
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