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This is in Southeast Alaska.
So I'm deep in the forest hunting ptarmigan/grouse (pretty much only thing in season now) and I had my 10/22. This real dark brown furred thing runs across this kinda hill, I was on my way up. I had my cell phone out using the GPS and I yelled "hey!!" It stopped and stood up on a downed trees root ball. This fucking thing was about the size of a small pony and had really weird large pointy ears, wolves in our area have small ears and are either black or grey in color, and it had a white/grey looking face. I am also going to post a pic of a coyote I took before so you can compare, some coyotes I've seen online have big pointy ears but our don't. In no way was it a wolf, coyote or someones dog. It took off and ran up this ravine. Maybe in a week or so I'm going to and get some scale.
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This is what our coyotes look like
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Those are big ears on that thing anon, looks like the ones on a german Shepard, same narrow looking face.
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>>671826
>Those are big ears on that thing anon,
That's what got me. Wolves here hunt mainly by smell and sight so they don't really need big ears. Coyote's in our area use their ears when hunting small things like mice and voles. I just can't state how 100% positive I am it wasn't someones dog. I'm off work on Fridays so nobody really goes into the woods during the daytime because they work.
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>>671828
Might be one of those coyote/wolf hybrids
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>>671828
moose calf.

Next question?
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Coyote wolf hybrid or feral dog Id say.
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>>671831
>>671847
I'm looking into the wolf/coyote hybrid thing now. No way it was a feral dog. The problem is the size of the thing, it was huge, I'm trying to google now if it's like a Liger (Lion and Tiger). They are a lot bigger than a Liion or Tiger.
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>op can't see and is paranoid
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>>671864
Funny thing is I just got a physical and have 20/20
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It's obvious. It's a llama.
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>>671852
>I don't know what it is
>I know what it isn't

make up your damn mind
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>>672330
If you ask anyone who lives in wolf or coyote country they will eat feral dogs in a heartbeat.
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>>671821
Spooky anon. Did you only had the 22? You would get rekt unless you're a big guy.
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>>672385
And if you had more pictures this could be the best thread on /out/ in a while. At least post more pictures of the area, seems 10/10 comfy
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>>672366
It looks like a coyote or coywolf anyway.

that aside what you're saying is senseless. because the coyote's range is literally all of north america, so there'd be no feral dogs on the continent if that were true. Wolves primarily prey on larger animals anyway.
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>>671821
>>671823
these look very similar. you did not discover some unknown species. take this shit to /x/ if you need to be validated that badly
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>>671821
>either black or grey in color

WTF are you talking about? I live in Elfin Cove and hunt all over here and the mainland, and I see wolves in a wide variety of colors.

Do you not get /out/ much?
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>>672454
>and I see wolves in a wide variety of colors.
Well I don't. If you do then post pics.
>Do you not get /out/ much?
Someone went there with me before. Pic a day and I'll post pics of me being out within a day or 2. I'll even post them on /p/ so you can see the exif or if you want pick seasons where the weather is obvious.

>I work innawoods and take pics every time I'm out there.
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>>672461
Yeah most of us work in the woods.

This one was nearly black to past his shoulders.
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>>672461
And this one was white faced but gray mostly.
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>>672464
Well I don't hunt wolves because I don't think they taste good. Here's a pack of them that hangs around my area
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>>672474
Here's some tracks I saw while ridge hiking, sea level is in the upper left corner. They weren't there on the way up.
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>>672477
And here's a track I measured a day or 2 after I saw it. The rain widens them but it was at least 6 inches across.
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>>672474
I hunt and trap them because they think the stuff I think tastes good, tastes good.

They also make great hats.
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>>671841
my bet is this
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>>672389
>coywolf
You mean Wolfote
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>>672499

no, its coywolf
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>>672486
It's definitely not a Moose. Someone sent me this pic of a different type of wolf in our area. I'm trying to find out how big it is. But the ears on the one I saw were a lot bigger.
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>>671821
>>671852
Wolf/coyote hybrids are usually about mid-range between the size, temperament, and other characteristics of wolves and coyotes, from what I've seen. They don't get bigger than both parents like ligers do.

It's most likely a wolf if it's really as big as you say. More likely a coyote if your mind was just playing tricks on you with the size, which happens easily. If you're not far from an inhabited area, there's a good chance it was just someone's big dog that wandered too far into the woods. Maybe even a wolf-dog hybrid if you want to stretch it a bit.

I wouldn't be so quick to rule out the possibility of it being a wolf based on ear size, or to rule it out being a coyote based on body size, or to rule it out being a dog based on the fact that "most people are at work during that time."

There are wolves with larger ears than what you'd typically see. There are coyotes that grow larger than what you'd typically see. There are dogs that wind up in places that you wouldn't expect to see them.

If you're saying there's "no way" it was a wolf, coyote, or dog, then you're either implying it's some far-off foreign canid, or some kind of cryptid or undocumented species.
For example, what do you think is more likely in your part of Alaska? A bigger-than-usual coyote, or a chupacabra? Use some common sense.

No doubt it's always fun and interesting to wonder what an unidentified animal you saw in the woods might be, but this one doesn't seem that crazy, especially with the fuzzy picture and the fact that you live in a place where it could easily be three common species of canine or any mixture of the three.

Good luck, though, anon. Maybe it is something crazy. Hopefully you'll stumble upon it again and get a closer look next time. It'd be interesting if you could get some scale on that picture.

Just for fun, I'll throw my bet on a wolfdog.
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>>672523
Wolfote is catchier
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>>672533
What you're saying makes sense. But if you look at the downed tree it's behind that's a Sitka Spruce. They are generally between 75 - 100 feet tall.(inb4 "I've seen larger and smaller trees") That trees width looked to be between maybe 1 1/2 to 2 feet due to its length. The things head is behind the tree but bigger than the tree. I'm going to have to go back and use something for scale
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>>672549
Oh and it was not a dog, not even a lost one. I was way to far away from houses, it was on Forest Service land.
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>>672533
Wolves would rape the shit out of a chupacabra
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>>671821
I wouldn't worry about it.
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Am i the only one who thinks its a log or fallen tree
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>>672693
Yes.
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>>671821
Why only americans and russians always need to validate something so bad when they see it in the woods? I mean I've talked to lots of ranchers, common uneducated farmers here and they really don't give a crap and don't extrapolate things.
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>>672464
>>672465
>Killing beautiful wolves
Pls die faggot
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>>672550
Look's like a German Shepard, could have been with someone else in the woods, camping or hiking. Mine will roam when we're /out/ and a dog can cover a lot of ground quickly, you would never know it was with someone.
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>>672762
Seconded.
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>>672762
>>672845
new much?
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>>672762
Fuck wolves
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>>671821
Just a wolf....or a llama.
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>>672464
I live in southcentral Alaska and really want to hunt some wolves. I've never hunted before but am very /out/istic. I've spent a lot of time on the Kenai peninsula (biggest wolves in the world) and hear them a lot. I have a 44mag, 22lr, 7.62x54r, and 300 win mag. Which gun would be best, and what strategies would I be best using?
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>>673046
Whichever you shoot best between the 7.62x54R and the 300 Winmag. What matters more is the bullet, but wolves are not hard to kill.

I shoot all the stuff around here between birds and bears with a 7-08 and have no problems.
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>>672762
Wolves first, and a lot of them.

>beautiful wolves

How much longer do you think the one in the second pic had to live given pic related.

Not only to they eat the 'bous, and blacktails, and reindeer...but the kelp too.
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Man OP i thought you were talking about this. Scared the shit out of me.
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>>672680
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>>673046
And for strategies....I usually get them as targets of opportunity. When I am out logging (work) or fishing or whatever, and I cut a wolf track or see one, I try to figure out where they are going and get there.

I also run across their kills and still hunt over those at dusk or dawn.

Calling sometimes work but I don't do much of that.
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>>673046
I use 7.62x39 personally, but I'd say the 7.62x54r would work well 'although a little overkill'. You can attract them with calls, sents ect. Also don't go wolf hunting alone its always good to have a friend that can help you if something goes wrong.
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>>673055
>>673065
>>673066
OK, sounds good. And I'd definitely be going with a friend.
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>>673046
>(biggest wolves in the world)
Tundra wolves are huge if that's what you have. We saw one while hunting out of Tok once.
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So I went back and tried to take a pic from where I was originally. I kinda failed because I should have stepped a little closed
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This was the tree it was standing on its root ball
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>>673978
This tree was about 4 leathermans wide. My leatherman is 4 1/2 inches long.
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such a cool looking forest
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>>673975
>>673978
>>673983
So lets say this things head was 18 inches from looking straight at it, bottom of jaw, to the tip of its ears. Is that big? I'm trying to figure out if it could have been this thing
>>672527
although I really don't think it was.
>also I'm op
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>>673984
It's weird cause I brought a pretty large hand gun and was terrified.
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>>671821
Maybe an feral black German Shepard?
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>>673996
Dude you saw a coyote.

Get a Night Hunt Coyote permit from your state, get a predator call, a decent hunt light and post up. Shoot a few yotes and stop being a pussy.

I hunt coyotes. I know one when I see one.
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>>674051
It's funny too because the lore of coyotes is literally that they were mysterious shapeshifters, masters of deception. Wiki coyote, read about the mythology.

You fell into yote lore.
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>>674047
well that doesn't look batshit crazy at all
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>>674051
I just cut and pasted its head next to the downed tree.
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>>674104
Then I cut and pasted 3 1/2 leathermans on the same tree which comes out to about 16". I added 2 more inches because of the snow, it was raining heavily today and the snow melted. So like I said before this things face from looking straight at it from lower jaw to tip of ear could be around 18". Show me a pic of a coyote with a head that big and keep in mind this
>>671823
is what our local coyotes look like cause I took the pic.
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>>674110
Females and males have distinct colour differences. Males often larger, and less likely to be seen.

Stay the night in the area, if it's a coyote you will hear distinct mating howls.
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>>674141
>Stay the night in the area,
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>>674150
Where is it? I spend nights in woods like thattracking coyotes all the time.

Stop being a pussy anon.
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>>674110
Listen bro, you're trying hard here, but just stop.

The only way you can measure from perspective like that is if the animals head was directly by the object you're comparing to. It clearly is not. You can't judge size like you're doing.

Due to the tree being closer than the animal, you can't then paste the fetcher way animals head on the tree. Even if it's more than a few inches away, it completely throws off the measurement, as the tree will appear larger, since it is closer in perspective.

It's a wolf, dog, coyote, or any combo of the 3. Nothing more, nothing less.
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>>674156
You have never been in the woods in your life. It's really that easy to tell
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>>674161
It was standing on the rootball of the downed tree. It couldn't have been a foot or 2 behind it. The perspective wouldn't change much if at all.
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>>671821
That's a stick, anon
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>>674162
How is it easy to tell?
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>>674187
The forest floor in Southeast Alaska is covered in moss and small plant life. You don't look for tracks, you look for sign like them digging for rodents or their poop. Most people actually either use calls or snares anyway. Anyone who says they can see footprints in moss is an idiot and has never been in the woods. I looked for impressions on the hillside and rootball and saw nothing or I would have taken pics.
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>>674197
I never said anything about footprints.


On the contrary. I stated to go there are night and listen for mating calls. And to also use a predator call.

Lurk moar.
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>>674201
Also once you find a den, look for evidence of them coming and going. You will start to notice their main directions of movement because of the pattern of broken brush and surrounding plant life.

They may not leave footprints but there is evidence of their movement.

Source: I hunt them exclusively.
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>>674165
Yes it would.

Also your cut and paste job clearly shows the actual size of the animals head considerably smaller than the tree. That coupled with the difference in perspective might give a size of about 8-10 inches. Which is exactly what you'd expect from a coywolfdogote.
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Thats a kangaroo
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It's someone in a fursuit
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>>672750
>Why do people interested in nature for a hobby want to learn more about nature, when people working /out/ for a living are busy with their jobs, especially when I project my snobbery about how uneducated the vulgar masses are?

The locals obviously find you unpleasant to talk to, and seek to terminate all communication with you as soon as possible.
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>>674348
>Yes it would.
Perspectives don't change 10 inches when you move an object back a foot. The cut and paste didn't include part of it's neck that's why it looked lower.
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>>673059
Okay, just make sure you always inspect their teeth before shooting them in order to determine their life expectancy
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>>674410
Made me chuckle
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So today I went back again grabbed a stick and made it to 5 leathermans long. The leatherman is 4 1/2 inches.

>I'm still trying to figure this out
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I then stabbed the stick in the rootball until 4 leathermans were exposed (18")
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I then went back and took a pic of it. I still say this things head was approximately 16" to 18" from tip of ear to lower jaw.
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So now I'd like to know what are the dimensions like in this pic? It's a pic of a coyote I found, google image. How big is a big canines head, not a freak of nature?

I just can't find a wolf/coyote's head dimensions.
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>>674110
>>676917
>>676918
will you please just invest in a fucking tape measure?
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>>676922
i found a dead coyote on the side of one of the roads that go through my workplace. we put it deeper in the woods in a tree so we could come back and hopefuly it would have no flesh left. its been about a year, maybe ill go look at it tomorrow and measure.
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>>676930
I didn't plan on going back but its been bugging the shit out of me. I might bring a tape measure and my Nikon D3000 instead of my iphone.

>>676931
It's hard to google wolf/coyote head dimensions.
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>>671821
>This fucking thing was about the size of a small pony

So are you going to post a picture of it? Because what you posted is a dark brown wolf about the size of a GSD.
>t. lived in SE Alaska
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>>673010
who sells this
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