This is in Southeast Alaska.
So I'm deep in the forest hunting ptarmigan/grouse (pretty much only thing in season now) and I had my 10/22. This real dark brown furred thing runs across this kinda hill, I was on my way up. I had my cell phone out using the GPS and I yelled "hey!!" It stopped and stood up on a downed trees root ball. This fucking thing was about the size of a small pony and had really weird large pointy ears, wolves in our area have small ears and are either black or grey in color, and it had a white/grey looking face. I am also going to post a pic of a coyote I took before so you can compare, some coyotes I've seen online have big pointy ears but our don't. In no way was it a wolf, coyote or someones dog. It took off and ran up this ravine. Maybe in a week or so I'm going to and get some scale.
>Those are big ears on that thing anon,
That's what got me. Wolves here hunt mainly by smell and sight so they don't really need big ears. Coyote's in our area use their ears when hunting small things like mice and voles. I just can't state how 100% positive I am it wasn't someones dog. I'm off work on Fridays so nobody really goes into the woods during the daytime because they work.
If you ask anyone who lives in wolf or coyote country they will eat feral dogs in a heartbeat.
It looks like a coyote or coywolf anyway.
that aside what you're saying is senseless. because the coyote's range is literally all of north america, so there'd be no feral dogs on the continent if that were true. Wolves primarily prey on larger animals anyway.
>either black or grey in color
WTF are you talking about? I live in Elfin Cove and hunt all over here and the mainland, and I see wolves in a wide variety of colors.
Do you not get /out/ much?
>and I see wolves in a wide variety of colors.
Well I don't. If you do then post pics.
>Do you not get /out/ much?
Someone went there with me before. Pic a day and I'll post pics of me being out within a day or 2. I'll even post them on /p/ so you can see the exif or if you want pick seasons where the weather is obvious.
>I work innawoods and take pics every time I'm out there.
Yeah most of us work in the woods.
This one was nearly black to past his shoulders.
And this one was white faced but gray mostly.
Well I don't hunt wolves because I don't think they taste good. Here's a pack of them that hangs around my area
Here's some tracks I saw while ridge hiking, sea level is in the upper left corner. They weren't there on the way up.
And here's a track I measured a day or 2 after I saw it. The rain widens them but it was at least 6 inches across.
It's definitely not a Moose. Someone sent me this pic of a different type of wolf in our area. I'm trying to find out how big it is. But the ears on the one I saw were a lot bigger.
Wolf/coyote hybrids are usually about mid-range between the size, temperament, and other characteristics of wolves and coyotes, from what I've seen. They don't get bigger than both parents like ligers do.
It's most likely a wolf if it's really as big as you say. More likely a coyote if your mind was just playing tricks on you with the size, which happens easily. If you're not far from an inhabited area, there's a good chance it was just someone's big dog that wandered too far into the woods. Maybe even a wolf-dog hybrid if you want to stretch it a bit.
I wouldn't be so quick to rule out the possibility of it being a wolf based on ear size, or to rule it out being a coyote based on body size, or to rule it out being a dog based on the fact that "most people are at work during that time."
There are wolves with larger ears than what you'd typically see. There are coyotes that grow larger than what you'd typically see. There are dogs that wind up in places that you wouldn't expect to see them.
If you're saying there's "no way" it was a wolf, coyote, or dog, then you're either implying it's some far-off foreign canid, or some kind of cryptid or undocumented species.
For example, what do you think is more likely in your part of Alaska? A bigger-than-usual coyote, or a chupacabra? Use some common sense.
No doubt it's always fun and interesting to wonder what an unidentified animal you saw in the woods might be, but this one doesn't seem that crazy, especially with the fuzzy picture and the fact that you live in a place where it could easily be three common species of canine or any mixture of the three.
Good luck, though, anon. Maybe it is something crazy. Hopefully you'll stumble upon it again and get a closer look next time. It'd be interesting if you could get some scale on that picture.
Just for fun, I'll throw my bet on a wolfdog.
What you're saying makes sense. But if you look at the downed tree it's behind that's a Sitka Spruce. They are generally between 75 - 100 feet tall.(inb4 "I've seen larger and smaller trees") That trees width looked to be between maybe 1 1/2 to 2 feet due to its length. The things head is behind the tree but bigger than the tree. I'm going to have to go back and use something for scale
Why only americans and russians always need to validate something so bad when they see it in the woods? I mean I've talked to lots of ranchers, common uneducated farmers here and they really don't give a crap and don't extrapolate things.
Look's like a German Shepard, could have been with someone else in the woods, camping or hiking. Mine will roam when we're /out/ and a dog can cover a lot of ground quickly, you would never know it was with someone.
I live in southcentral Alaska and really want to hunt some wolves. I've never hunted before but am very /out/istic. I've spent a lot of time on the Kenai peninsula (biggest wolves in the world) and hear them a lot. I have a 44mag, 22lr, 7.62x54r, and 300 win mag. Which gun would be best, and what strategies would I be best using?
Whichever you shoot best between the 7.62x54R and the 300 Winmag. What matters more is the bullet, but wolves are not hard to kill.
I shoot all the stuff around here between birds and bears with a 7-08 and have no problems.
Wolves first, and a lot of them.
How much longer do you think the one in the second pic had to live given pic related.
Not only to they eat the 'bous, and blacktails, and reindeer...but the kelp too.
Man OP i thought you were talking about this. Scared the shit out of me.
And for strategies....I usually get them as targets of opportunity. When I am out logging (work) or fishing or whatever, and I cut a wolf track or see one, I try to figure out where they are going and get there.
I also run across their kills and still hunt over those at dusk or dawn.
Calling sometimes work but I don't do much of that.
I use 7.62x39 personally, but I'd say the 7.62x54r would work well 'although a little overkill'. You can attract them with calls, sents ect. Also don't go wolf hunting alone its always good to have a friend that can help you if something goes wrong.
So I went back and tried to take a pic from where I was originally. I kinda failed because I should have stepped a little closed
This tree was about 4 leathermans wide. My leatherman is 4 1/2 inches long.
It's weird cause I brought a pretty large hand gun and was terrified.
Maybe an feral black German Shepard?
Dude you saw a coyote.
Get a Night Hunt Coyote permit from your state, get a predator call, a decent hunt light and post up. Shoot a few yotes and stop being a pussy.
I hunt coyotes. I know one when I see one.
I just cut and pasted its head next to the downed tree.
Then I cut and pasted 3 1/2 leathermans on the same tree which comes out to about 16". I added 2 more inches because of the snow, it was raining heavily today and the snow melted. So like I said before this things face from looking straight at it from lower jaw to tip of ear could be around 18". Show me a pic of a coyote with a head that big and keep in mind this
is what our local coyotes look like cause I took the pic.
Listen bro, you're trying hard here, but just stop.
The only way you can measure from perspective like that is if the animals head was directly by the object you're comparing to. It clearly is not. You can't judge size like you're doing.
Due to the tree being closer than the animal, you can't then paste the fetcher way animals head on the tree. Even if it's more than a few inches away, it completely throws off the measurement, as the tree will appear larger, since it is closer in perspective.
It's a wolf, dog, coyote, or any combo of the 3. Nothing more, nothing less.
The forest floor in Southeast Alaska is covered in moss and small plant life. You don't look for tracks, you look for sign like them digging for rodents or their poop. Most people actually either use calls or snares anyway. Anyone who says they can see footprints in moss is an idiot and has never been in the woods. I looked for impressions on the hillside and rootball and saw nothing or I would have taken pics.
Also once you find a den, look for evidence of them coming and going. You will start to notice their main directions of movement because of the pattern of broken brush and surrounding plant life.
They may not leave footprints but there is evidence of their movement.
Source: I hunt them exclusively.
Yes it would.
Also your cut and paste job clearly shows the actual size of the animals head considerably smaller than the tree. That coupled with the difference in perspective might give a size of about 8-10 inches. Which is exactly what you'd expect from a coywolfdogote.
>Why do people interested in nature for a hobby want to learn more about nature, when people working /out/ for a living are busy with their jobs, especially when I project my snobbery about how uneducated the vulgar masses are?
The locals obviously find you unpleasant to talk to, and seek to terminate all communication with you as soon as possible.
So today I went back again grabbed a stick and made it to 5 leathermans long. The leatherman is 4 1/2 inches.
>I'm still trying to figure this out
I then stabbed the stick in the rootball until 4 leathermans were exposed (18")
I then went back and took a pic of it. I still say this things head was approximately 16" to 18" from tip of ear to lower jaw.
So now I'd like to know what are the dimensions like in this pic? It's a pic of a coyote I found, google image. How big is a big canines head, not a freak of nature?
I just can't find a wolf/coyote's head dimensions.
i found a dead coyote on the side of one of the roads that go through my workplace. we put it deeper in the woods in a tree so we could come back and hopefuly it would have no flesh left. its been about a year, maybe ill go look at it tomorrow and measure.
>This fucking thing was about the size of a small pony
So are you going to post a picture of it? Because what you posted is a dark brown wolf about the size of a GSD.
>t. lived in SE Alaska