>>668285 if it is a rattler I'd guess either timber rattlesnake or massasauga. the colors don't match either exactly but many snakes are known to have different color morphs. And it's not totally unheard of for even adult ratttlesnakes to have no rattle. It's head is very viper like. Some rat snakes look kinda like that though, regardless I'd avoid it if I came across it while /out/
>>668293 >the colors don't match either exactly but many snakes are known to have different color morphs. Yeah there's more intraspecific variation than interspecific variation in a lot of snakes which can make them a bitch to identify sometimes. Head scales look watersnakey though and they have vaguely viperish heads. I've mistook them for rattlesnakes before until I noticed the lack of a rattle.
Would want to see eyes and look for pit viper pits before I handled it. The pits are pretty distinctive from the right angle.
>>668720 The pupil shape doesn't always tell you if it's venomous or not. Look at cobras or other elapids; they have round pupils. There is no definitive way to differentiate between venomous and non-venomous snakes, unless you're familiar with the species in the area and know exactly what you're looking at. I can say without a doubt that it is a garter snake of some kind, and more than likely an older Checkered Garter.
Thank you for posting the correct answer. As for everyone else in this thread- how can you be on /out/ and not know what a rattlesnake/cottonmouth/copperhead/other venomous snake actually looks like? You're fucked if you get bitten.
>>668767 Even a very dark cottonmouth will have a pattern. They are pretty close kin to rattlers and copperheads. I don't think that little guy is a cottonmouth, either. I'm down with this guy's idea >>669268, but I wouldn't bet on it without seeing the snake in person.
>>671804 We have 4 different species of venomous snakes where I live and go /out/ most frequently.
>cottonmouth: tends to be very dark and fat and aggressive about defending its territory, never see them far from water >diamondback rattler: yup, them look like diamonds back there >prairie rattler: most common around here: somebody took a diamondback and rearranged the orientation of his diamonds: this made him angry >sidewinder: the one that rattles and doesn't look like the other two
I've camped where there are masasauga, copperheads, and coral snakes. I have yet to have a serious encounter with any snake other than a water moccasin because I recognize that I have invaded their home and treat them with respect. I did have to kill a cottonmouth once. He decided to chase me back up a trail around a lake and there were kids coming behind me that I didn't know well enough to trust not to die of stupidity.
>>669268 >Everyone in this thread is a moron Fuck you, smart guy. Snakes can have notoriously variable phenotype, and if you don't have local knowledge the pictures are too shitty to key it out properly.
>>676850 People have died from both copperhead and water moccasin bites, and neither have rattles. Please don't contribute potentially dangerous opinions unless you actually have knowledge to what you are referring.
/out/ is retarded. Thread after thread it's proven. Poor arrogant bastards. None of you even tried to use Google you just jump straight to being idiots. No wonder you all love this board the most, it's your own special retard den.
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