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So we all know milk is great tasting and good for you. It's got tons of fats, vitamins, and nutrients. It makes a great meal when you're /out/-and-about, but there's one problem: It goes back quickly when not refrigerated.
Sure it's not hard to take a pint of milk and drink it on the first night, but if you're planning to be out for a few days or weeks, there's not really an easy way to keep milk cold for that whole time.
Luckily there are substitutes. Condensed milk is essentially milk with much of the water boiled off. It comes in cans and keeps for a long time. There are some varieties with extra sweetness added. Both combinations go well with hot drinks, or for breakfast (on its own or with oats). The cans are a great improvement and bump the shelf life way up. A few small cans will last days and can really make a trip that much more comfy.
One thing I never hear anyone discuss is powdered milk. It's even lighter than the cans, and as a bonus, the powder packets are much easier to reseal. With powdered milk you can weigh out a spoonful and tape the bag shut, whereas with powdered milk you're stuck with an open can that can spill.
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>>666889
Now, we usually drink cow's milk, which is fine and dandy. Cow's milk is great tasting and nutritious. But one more advantage of powdered milk is that it can also be sourced from a different source. This is where my photo comes in. Powdered breast milk substitutes are very common in most supermarkets and it got me thinking. Wouldn't breast milk be a better choice than cow milk? Breast milk is made for humans to drink. Our bodies are already suited to turning breast milk into fuel, so wouldn't this be a GOAT /out/ drink? You can throw a can in your pack and have access to nature's bounty at any moment. Dissolve the powder in any cup or thermos and you've got a healthy, nutritious power drink ready to go.
Any thoughts, /out/? Has anyone tried this stuff before? I have a few samples that I found in my mailbox. It seems like a great idea, I just want to get a taste test before I buy a whole can for my B.O.B.
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>>666890
I've taken powdered milk into the back country. It works fine. I've mainly used it for the Knorr (formerly Lipton) noodle mixes which gives a nice, hearty meal. I usually portion it out into zip-top snack bags. Its worth it if you have the ounces to spare - and space is more of a concern than anything (it is quite light for the volume).
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stuff smells like shit
>source: pic related
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>>666889
Milk stout is the man's way to take milk into the wilderness.
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>>666897
this
I've used powdered milk as an additive to other shit. It's light
Never tried powdered breast milk substitute. It sounds more expensive and is probably just powdered cow milk anyway
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>>666913
It maybe be a little more expensive, but it's theoretically healthier for us. Cow milk is for cows, human milk is for humans.
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>>666917
>what is an omnivore
anyways, formula's derived from dairy proteins. you didn't think it was actually powdered human breast milk, did you anon?
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>>666917
Are you trolling?
Breast milk substitute is not made from human breast milk, it's made from cow milk.
And milk is for babies, not adults
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>>666920
Of course it's not dried up human milk, it's a substitute. But the formulation is mixed to mimic breast milk in terms of calories, vitamins, and mineral content. It's much better suited to keeping a human well nourished than cows milk.
>>666922
Milk is a solid choice for adults, provided you aren't lactose intolerant. Like I said before, it's got tons of minerals and vitamins. The only reason not to drink it is if it gives you the runs.
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nutrition be damned, you still have to deal with this fact >>666898
the smell fucking gagged me, and i bet the consistency would be unbearable. maybe it would work as an emergency supplement for some bob that would realistically never be used, but i absolutely would not carry it innawoods as a legitimate beverage option.
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>>666929
Adult humans don't drink breast milk, so the fact that substitutes try to mimick it is irrelevant to the diet of an adult.
Formula companies are scum who profit off convincing women they can't breastfeed, causing increased rates of just about every disease imaginable, so there's that as well for a disincentive to buy their product.
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>>666889
It's actually been proven to not be that great. Doesn't do shit for your bones, barely has enough nutrients in it. Plenty of study has been done to proven this, pretty much just for flavor. Take a calcium pill and fuck off.
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>>666940
absolutely false. my wife's a high risk ob nurse and certified lactation consultant and worked at mother's milk bank so i guarantee she know a fuckload more than a tinfoil faggot like you and we still supplemented our baby with formula.
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>>666945
>textbook appeal to authority
Nigga PLEASE
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2812877/#!po=0.276243
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_formula
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestlé_boycott
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>>666947
>2009
>wikipedia
cool cutting edge sources bro
and yeah, breastfeeding provides a lot of things formula can't (i.e. antibodies), but to write it off as an option is simply wrong.
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>>666949
Nice to see you ignored the first link.
And I'm not writing it off entirely, just stating that formula companies regularly engage in business practices that push a product that, for most people, is unnecessary and is well known and documented to increase the risk of many diseases, especially if it is given in the first 6 months.
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>>666951
you mean the one from 2009? that i specifically referenced? fuckin moran.
and go ahead and keep guilting people who need it, if it makes you feel like you're doing your part to fight the evil capitalist pigs.
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>>666952
Except hardly anyone needs it. Breastfeeding rates have been in the high 90s until relatively recently. Most failure to breastfeed is a result of failure of medical providers to properly inform about lactation and normal infant behaviour, as well as a failure to support the mother in breastfeeding, rather than any medical reason.
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>>666955
>Breastfeeding rates have been in the high 90s until relatively recently.
>what are working mothers
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>>666956
>because some mothers work, we can therefore ignore the mothers who don't work who are still failed by the system and have formula pushed on them
>implying pumps don't exist
I'm guessing you're American and think any kind of guaranteed paid parental leave or guaranteed post natal care is communism.
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>>666960
>communism
i'm not an idiot. it's socialism you nanny state yuro faggot.
there's always going to be somebody the system fails for (language barrier is a huge factor there), but the majority use it as an option or because they really need it, not because of your multinational corporate bogeyman pressure. and sometime ask a woman about the experience of pumping.
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>>666967
>it's socialism you nanny state yuro faggot
But I'm not a yuro ;^)
>the majority use it as an option
Because of the marketing. 75% of women agree that "breast is best", only 25% of women agree that a formula fed baby is more likely to be sick.
>or because they really need it
Why put these categories in the same sentence? They're completely different reasons to use a breastmilk substitute. Again, the number of women who need to breastfeed for medical reasons is actually around one percent.
>not because of your multinational corporate bogeyman pressure.
Are you ignorant? Have you done zero research on formula marketing in the 20th century? Here, the first one is free.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2443254/
>and sometime ask a woman about the experience of pumping.
I just asked my wife, she said it was fine.
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>>666890==
OP, infant formula isn't a special powdered breast milk, that comes from a different source. It is just a mixture of purified cow's milk proteins, vegetable oil, and lactose/maltose/dextrins that been formulated to more closely resemble human breast milk composition (There are also super expensive cow milk protein alternative formulas that use amino acids for infants with protein allergies). The reason people use formuala as opposed to straight cow's milk, is that human infants have slightly different nutritional requirements than calves. It won't do anything special for you that regular powdered milk does, besides cost you a bundle, because milk is not your sole source of nutrition. Actually for over 30 years, people just used evaporated canned milk as infant formula. Just use powdered milk, unless you get freebie.
samples. There's nothing natural about formula, other than that it might be manufactured from "natural" ingredients.
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Just so you all know, powdered milk is known to increase risk of cancer. Something to do with oxidized proteins.
Your best source for calcium and micronutrients is bone broth. Just stew that squirrel whole over the fire for twenty-four hours, and the bones will dissolve in the soup, just the way grandma used to make. Also helps significantly with joint health because meat doesn't contain chondroitin. Ever wonder why wild animals eat the whole carcas and not just choice cuts? Because muscle tissue alone isn't enough to keep you healthy.
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>>667269
But we can all get free samples of powdered breast milk by pretending to be new mothers. I don't know how to get free powdered milk.
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>>666889
Milk is for babies
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>>666960
Please explain why a private interest should pay you money to sit on your ass because you got knocked up/knocked someone up.
Because I don't see any world where that is right.
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>>666920
That was what he was thinking. I'm glad you addressed OP's theory.
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>>666940
When my first child was born at Mercy Hospital in Sacramento they actually told my wife and I that we couldn't leave with our baby unless she could show that she was able to breast feed him. Felt kinda weird you know?
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>>666945
Way to go man.
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>>667653
OP here, you guys made it sound gross. I'm thinking maybe I'll try powdered cow's milk first.
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>>667655
i've been trying to think how to describe the smell so that the most people will understand it (it really smells like the liquid hospitals feed people through ng tubes, but that's not a real universal experience) and i think goldfish food is the closest comparison i can come up with.
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>>667657
To me it smells like rotten soy milk...my wife never smelled anything but she's notoriously untrustworthy when it comes to smells.
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>>667655
Going /out/ for a week on wens, I could give both a go.
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>>666956
>not feeding your children properly so you can be a stronk independent career womyn
Literally child neglect
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>>669210
>not wanting a stronk independent career womyn for a wife so you can not work and instead run around with your little sc/out/
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>>669440
i recognice you from another thread
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>>669471
i try to be around to be a voice of reason when anons who i expect lack much first hand experience try to push their rather acidic view of women and children
took the little guy cross country skiing a couple weeks ago.
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>>669064
why not just try them at home?
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>>669507
>implying some of them don't have an "acidic view of women" BECAUSE of first-hand experience with them
top zozzle
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>>671442
>having a crush on the most popular girl in school but being too chickenshit to approach her then deciding the reason she never approached you is because she's a gold digging whore who craves the bbc and letting that shape your opinion of all women for the rest of your life is first hand experience
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>>671533
Wew that's some hardcore projection. You need therapy.
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>>667657
What? I've had an nj tube for about a month now and my formula doesn't smell that bad at all.
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>>666897
me too. I get the fettucini packets. open into a ziplock, add a dab of margerine, some grated parmesan, and a couple of heaping tablespoons of powdered milk. Works well.
I also add oatmeal and brown sugar into ziplocks for easier use.
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That garbage barely exists outside the US
Not drinking milk as infants probably contributed to why Americans are so short and have poor physique
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