>>659138 Looks like it's got all the exterior accouterments that makes a pack /out/ worthy. I never like to use camouflage, or black colored gear, as I feel that it makes it easier to lose at night, or in thick brush or something. Just personal preference though.
You might be able to find some reviews elsewhere online.
>>659159 >Looks like it's got all the exterior accouterments that makes a pack /out/ worthy. That's what I thought too, but I'm kind of hesitant to drop 200+ on a pack. What about the capacity? Is 2220cu enough for a 3-5 day outing?
>>659176 >a 3-5 day outing considering even the company calls it a daypack...
re: size, 36L is a bit small, but not impossible, but it doesn't look like it's storage is very optimized for hauling a multi-day load (specifically multiple smaller pockets, and load sticking out from your back instead of stacking against your back).
>>659176 It's doable if you go small and light, but that requires a certain amount of planning and finesse. Assuming you are a beginner, I'd recommend springing for at least a 50L pack.
Honestly, the most important thing is that you go to a store like REI or somewhere else and try the pack on with ~30-40 lbs of weight. Walk around the store for a while to see if it causes you any discomfort.
That is the wrong pack for multi-day. You want something in the 50-60 liter range.
Personally I like the Kelty Redwing 50 because it's roomy, has good attachment options and is always on sale somewhere (I think I last spotted one for $99 on the REI outlet site), but there are lots of options /out/ there.
Shit, guys, are you serious? I'm planning a 3-4 day hike in the spring. I got a 30L+8L pack. How is that not going to be enough room? I just need food, water, a few other items I imagine. Anything big like a blanket or sleeping pad I can just strap to the outside. Btw I'm bringing food that ddoesn't need to be cooked.
>>659488 The things that take up the most room are your sleeping system. Sleep system weight and volume can vary widely. My setup for sake of an example of a tent, sleeping pad, and sleeping bag would not work out on a 30L bag.
>>659510 My 55L was with nothing strapped on the outside, because I hate things strapped on the outside of my pack. It always catches on stuff when I'm bushwhacking. A huge sleeping bag on the outside just bumps around and throws me off balance. I just like everything inside.
>>659510 you can but even on my external frame pack tie down spots are limited. and it can make the pack unwieldy. Plus you need proper bags for stuff going outside your bag. Don't get me wrong I tie stuff down to my pack all the time, its just undesirable. The new school internal-frame packs where all your gear fits on the inside are nice as hell.
Am I the only person who is getting fed up with manufacturers adding compression straps to FUCKING EVERYTHING.
They are next to useless on a small volume backpack, but there you go OP, there is fucking four. Want to open up the main compartment? Think again, fucko! You gotta undo those compression straps. Well, what about just leaving the compression clasps de-clasped? LOL ENDLESS STRAPS BLOWING EVERYWHERE.
It's even worse on my Northface Surge (a great pack by any other viewpoint_ where the compression clasps form around the TWO main compartments. It's a fucking 30 ltr day pack backpack with a laptop pocket and an accessories compartment, what the fuck do I need to compress??
Fuck, I hate compression straps on small ltr backpacks.
>>659573 No, it apparently seems to be you who is the fucktard
I carried my sleeping bag, sleeping pad, and tent all in/on my 20L shitty chinese made assault pack and still had room for a change of clothes and food/water. Granted, my sleeping pad was strapped to the side of my pack but I still had plenty of room for the tent and bag.
Just don't cheap out on your sleeping system and you can find decent quality tents and bags that pack down real small
>>659585 You can carry a 55l bag all you want, that's not bad, but if someone wants to go smaller it's entirely possible- you were the first one to start shitting on anon for wanting to be able to carry his stuff in a smaller bag, and I'm just calling you out on being a dick huffing nigger
Just going to jump into this thread. I'm looking at getting 2 bags, one for myself and for the wife to do camping trips (2-3 day, and sometimes week longs doing half splits going back to the car for restock.
Im looking at the Condor 125 3-day pack. I can get them 2 for a reasonable price, and there isn't much else in Australia.
>>661525 military style backpacks are generally more robust than civilian backpacks, they won't tear and rip at the seams so easily. Also the square shapes are very roomy, you can just stuff them full of things.
>>659510 >But can't you just strap those to the outside of the bag? Or you can just suck up the extra pound of fabric and get a properly sized bag that's going to be more comfortable and easier to use. Some of us have 15 pound or more sleep systems everything included.
>>661661 I don't know about those but I have pic related and this motherfucker will not quit. It's not the lightest or most comfortable but it's excellent for the price and I've put serious mileage into mine and not had a problem. There's even a new gen out that looks pretty snazzy and is only $100 off amazon.
>>659488 Spare sucks. For the love of god bring spare sucks with you. Just one extra pair will be enough. Shit can go down pretty fast. no srly, i dont understand how you can think 40L would be enough for 3-4 days as a beginner. For someone that is experienced and would want to go a little minimalist i can see how he would do it. We need a list of what you would bring and approx how heavy
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