Anyone have experience with these? DIYs or custom built? Share your pics or ideas. What would you ideally install as necessities or store?
there are several of us here that have westys .
cheaper and cooler than a sportsmobile but not as badassed
Mitsubishi L300 / Delica AWD
>What would you ideally install as necessities or store?
Coneman dual burner or a stove and sink unit
Built this myself with supplies from home depot. Took 3 hours to get the cuts and measurements, frame assembly, carpet insulation, and finally carpet wrap.
>cheap, less than $150 on supplies
>non-permanent structure that slides out
>light (about 50 LB) so won't affect gas mileage
>plenty of space for supplies underneath in 4 lengthwise compartments
>comfortable bed for two
I have a home, and camping is a recreational activity of mine so it's usually done during good weather.
Not flimsy at all, doesn't shift or buckle with two people on it. I have a sheepskin rug rolled up in the trunk, and sleeping bags. Side windows can be cracked for air and screens so no bugs get in.
It's perfect for me and my intended usage, but I can see why it may not work for others. I just wanted to share my view on truck campers.
Yep, the bed is over the cab. You can check on youtube to see how the system works, whole thing goes up in seconds
Just got the plate. Going to get some more aggressive tires soon, these were struggling out in Escalante/Grand Staircase shown here - >>645746
My next big trip is up to BC then through Washington, Idaho, Montana, not sure where exactly yet. Best part of the whole setup is we don't even have to plan where to go or for how long, just look at a BLM map and go wherever looks interesting.
I bought it used on ExpeditionPortal with a rainfly and the propane tank/mount for $2400 (had to drive 600 miles to get it though), then altogether the heater, stove, storage, water, recovery gear, etc. was probably another $400-$500.
I bought this for 400 bucks in nov, just got it passed inspection so now time for one man camper van.
I wouldn't have minded finding one with a high top, but when this awd with the tow package showed up with shit i could fix i knew it was the time.
There is a square outline on the roof for a vent, i did notice that.
Its body on frame, so its getting lifted prolly 2" and well see what else.
Caught this gal while I was filling and liked her rig. Yes, her.
2/2 a decent set up for an older gal, 50 y/o easy.
Caught this one in SE Utah, I have no idea what it is other than non-US, but looks off road capable enough, for it's size.
And right after that one, I got caught behind this 30mph uphill POS!
This single gal was closer to 75 y/o.
I finally blew her doors off at the next clear straight section, but she caught up when I stopped to buy beer outside Blanding, UT. Slow and steady wins the race!
> mfw they haven't sold any alcohol inside Blanding city limits for over 100 YEARS!
Finally mine: Dodge 1500 4 dr
> b-but, anon you just take pics for random people's /out/ vehicals?
Why not? It's a free country!
>8ft wide, 6.5ft tall, 10ft on the square +4ft v-nose
>tfw snowmobile's parked just outside the door
All my own shit.
Ripped out all the wiring and replaced it with good shit.... no scotch-locks... replaced rear LEDs, replaced brake wiring, added a 120v circuit inside...
Insulated walls/roof, plumbed/wired/installed a 25k btu furnace...
Still mainly a snowmobile hauler, but it's nice to stay on the mountain at night and have a warm/dry place to sleep and change in.
And my current project... 45footer. Front third living quarters ("cabin"), rear 2/3 garage.
Stripped to the frame, rebuilt from the ground up.
Replaced axles, roof/floor plywood, insulation, roof aluminum, screwless siding, dual 35k btu furnaces... *lots* of wiring.... lots of work.
There is a guy in my street that has a Land Rover Defender with a tent like thingy on the top, kinda gave me the idea. I wanna buy pick up and build the back in a pop up tent, I was thinking about å old Toyota Hilux because they are pretty much indestructibly and 4wd, have an oportunity to buy one now for really cheap from å colleague but its so fucked up I have to pass
Mine (the 2-place) I bought from a buddy... corporate move, had the option to take a moving package or cash option... took the cash option, bought a 30-something ft trailer and a down payment on a new 3500 CTD, sold me his old one for a good price.
The 45ft'er we bought from a race team in Florida. Was off a website like craigslist but for trailers.
Trailers are nice since they're easy to hook up and unhook. Usually gives you more room inside too, won't be as cramped. Can unhook and take the truck into town without picking everything up.
Downsides, you need a bigger tow vehicle (we tow the 45ft with an F550, I have a 3/4-ton HD). Storage can be an issue. Another "vehicle" to title/plate/register/insure. Does limit you to improved roads.
Worth it if you need the space though
The one thing most of these rigs are missing is a decent bathroom. I have usually set up an outside shower/toilet tent, but damn it sucks to go out in the cold morning or night. Then a solar shower kinda works, but only in the middle of a sunny day, the last time you want to be using it.
Wake up on cold morning and I want a warm indoor shower.
The two things that got me were the fact that it can go in a container and that you can full the tanks right out of a creek
I have a 2013 RCLB F150. Trying to decide between getting a used flippac or a picking up a used canopy, putting in some roll bars for bed support, and installing a westy top to it.
How is the flippac for fucking in? I'd just camp in the back of my pickup for under a canopy but my wife is less okay with that.
My long-term dream is to convert a good 4x4 into a camper so my gf and I can drive from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego. It's just a daydream right now but one day I'm fucking doing it.
I'm wondering what y'all think is a reasonable total budget (obviously not expecting anything precise - just a spitball estimate) for a vehicle capable of off-roading in conditions that'll include Alaskan snow, Central American mud and jungle and Andean deserts? And doing so with some basic level of comfort - replacing the rear seats with a mattress etc.
And any ideas advice / budget for maintenance along the way? I imagine that'd be pretty important for a trip like this.
Any other general comments or whatever?
>How is the flippac for fucking in? I'd just camp in the back of my pickup for under a canopy but my wife is less okay with that.
Not to worry about the sex, your wife can cuck you just fine in it while you are at work.
Don't forget the canister toilet.
I prefer deep woods camping, myself, but you can build a hell of a nice stealth camper from a cargo van and simple amenities. I'll probably end up doing that when I get too old to do long hikes and bike rides.
Yeah, but high top was on my mind cuz cold.
It gets cold here most years, not this one.
Meanwhile, got my tire chains from my volvo figgured out and fitted.
I've seen setups like this work well. We've been known to go /out/ with the back seat removed from our Tahoe, fold down the middle seats, and sleep in the cabin. My wife and kids usually sleep that way when we go fishing just to be fishing and don't take a tent and such.
>My long-term dream is to convert a good 4x4 into a camper
Chevy, GMC, Ford, or Dodge cargo van. they're built on pickup frames, so you can go 4wd with little trouble. Some even come that way.
I had a week long vacation where we were driven around Ukraine in one of these. It sucked, as we were at the back on wooden benches.
But now I'm thinking, that with the right bench seats, those vehicles are amazing.
Are those personal pictures? How are UAZ minivans like to own? Whats their MPG like?
>I want to convert a school bus.
Again, none of these vehicles are expensive and the guy has no bills. A few weeks of work would get him what he wants but he/you is too lazy to do any work. I hope you freeze to death for lack of a blanket you welfare sucking faggot
One of my aspirations is to convert a low bed furniture van (box van) into a a camper. It would be /out/ friendly but not offload friendly, obviously.
Solar panels+leisure battery
I think I could do it for about £3000+cost of the van, currently saving and should be good to start in 3 years at this rate.
Plan on taking it all around Europe for a few seasons.
Depending on how well I do it it might be even be liveable full time.
Ive had the same thought anon. Here in the United States however it's cheaper to buy an RV there's some pretty solid well maintain one's going for 1500 to $2,000 you can't do a box van for that price.
I want to use it as a project to learn basic plumbing, electrics, etc, that'll set me right for building a house later in life.
Basic concept will be to build an internal timber frame, insulate and clad.
Allow me to hang set of double doors behind the rolling shutter. Would give a good feeling of 'space', functionality too, and still allow the rolling shutter down when driving.
Raise the floor level up to the top of the wheel arches, which allows the cavity between this wooden floor and the base of the chassis to become storage.
Bed goes in the 'hump' over the cab, but with a section that folds down (think draw bridge) to provide full length. Thinking a double futon. By having it on a hinge and having it go up out of the way when not in use will maximise space
Self contained wet room containing toilet and shower.
Kitchen area beside the wet room: Sink, electric hobs, fridge, will probably scavenge.
Leisure battery + couple of solar panels on the roof + a water heater. Ideally I'd run everything electric, potentially electric/gas, I have to look into it a bit more.
Under floor area at the kitchen/wetroom would house grey water tank etc.
Wood burning stove with underfloor storage for a small amount of fuel.
Weight bearing points to suspend a couple of hammocks for chilling (instead of a couch)
What I generally hate about campers is how confined they feel, really cramped. By having underfloor storage, no couches, double doors etc, it should maximise the amount of floorspace and 'openness'
The only sticking points I've come across so far would be:
lack of windows, potentially just leave the fibreglass roof panel (which are opaque) to allow diffuse light. Combined with the rear doors (having windows) should be enough light.
Inaccess between cab and rear, need to research the legality of cutting through the bulkhead
insulating the hump over the cab/the roof due to curves. Probably won't insulate.
The folding tent on the top tends to get damaged easily by the folding mechanism itself, plus its obvious downsides for other weather conditions than sunny, dry and warm.
There are atcually modern versions of this, no idea why they still get buyed.
I recommend a commercial ford transit to start with if you want to DIY.
A box van seems like a much better platform to DIY from than a panel van.
I know someone who convertered an old prison transport van to a home. He said it was great because it was already insulated and had a ventilation system.
>Save your cash for a few weeks then and quit making excuses. Suck a few extra cocks if you must.
Says the poster who obviously has never known hardship and doesn't comprehend how hard it really is to get yourself out of it.
Sure I have a multi million $ trust fund but how is that relevant to some faggot who doesn't pay rent being unable to suck an extra cock or collect a few cans in order to live his dreams. Me thinks you millennials expect to be handed everything without even having to ask
>Me thinks you millennials
Not a Millenial, and your post proves my point.
You have no idea how hard it really is to get out of being homeless, how hard it is to find a job or even an apartment being homeless.
He doesn't want a job or apartment you overprotective cunt. Nor does he want your sympathy you upper class cow. He wants a shitty several thousand $ vehicle which he could get with a small amount of effort but no, he will stay a poor negroe because you tell him he can't do it and doesn't deserve it. Nice going shaggy.
I think you are right. Homeless people work harder than anyone else in society, so much so that to expect them to work at all is literal slavery and yet despite that hard work they get no fancy mansions or Gucci footwear. That all goes to the robber barons and trust fund kids. It's disgraceful really that in 2016 this problem exists
This. I was homeless for a short time, locked my keys inside my truck which were connected to my house keys, so was stranded. It was 51 farenheit outside (freezing in CA) so I had to sit in my other car which I fortunately left unlocked to stay warm while I waited for help. I didn't have it's keys either so I couldn't start the car, which means I couldn't charge my phone, suddenly my phone became an hourglass of life and death, if it were to run out of batteries I couldn't contact anyone and would be homeless until my house cleaner came on Tuesday. The car was also a two seater so wasn't very comfortable, I had a feeling of solidarity with anyone who was curling up in a stoop, garbage can, etc. I definitely have a whole new respect for the homeless after my experience, don't talk if you don't really know how it is.
man i feel for ya. seattle is fucking horrible right now.
also fyi, if you end up buying something 80+" your options to park on public streets gets a lot more limited and parking enforcement might start screwing with you.
Considering the fact that many companies won't hire a homeless person simply because they are homeless, and if they have a job they can be fired for simply being homeless, you have no point to make other than you have no idea of how hard it is to get back on your feet when life goes to shit.
Getting "several thousand dollars" together when you are homeless and unemployed isn't easy at all.
Which brings me back to the point that was made about you having no idea of how hard it is to get out of being homeless.
Hired something similar to pic related in NZ. Had the olds with who were getting pretty elderly so went for something like this for that reason mainly. Has a toilet, shower, hot water service, 3 way fridge, stove, sink, water tanks (fresh and grey), aux battery / charger / 24/12 volt converter, electric water pump and a propane heater. Slept 5 but we only used some beds.
We went to official parks every 2 to 3 days for a powered site laundry etc. Could have used small generator a couple of times as mother ran the heater (electric fan) too long and flattened the aux battery. I just started it up for a wile to get some charge back in it.
It takes a wile to get used to driving, parking, clearance etc Exhaust brakes are awesome and came in very handy with NZ's topography. You may find reverse threads on left hand wheels should you need to change one which we did which proved far faster than waiting for the company to send someone to do it which is the norm for them.
If we were not travelling regularly it would have needed more power supply and better heating and/or insulation.
I've never met a homeless fucker who didn't want to be homeless. I know it's hard for a middle class white girl to grasp that concept. They also don't want a job. They just want stuff for existing. Similar to you and your polluted vagina
You are so full of shit.
I've worked with the Homeless and very few of them want to be homeless.
We are able to get most of them jobs, but they usually lose them when the employer finds out they are homeless.
You have no fucking clue what you are talking about and are just being an asshole because no one is physically there to kick your ass.
It seems you are filled with stereotypes about the homeless.
Most homeless people don't look like they are homeless, or at least what it seems you think they look like.
Also, about 40% of the homeless in the USA have jobs, so the issue isn't laziness.
Perhaps the increasing cost of living and low wages has something to do with it?
But then again, you'd have to think to understand the issue. Something you obviously can't do.
Let me correct you since stereotypes are always true.
0% of the homeless have jobs
100% are lazy and violent
0% of the population gives a shit about the homeless
While you may pretend to care about them you don't. You just want points for caring about people you think are inferior. You are their worst enemy
Have a nice day. You white knight slag
i an van guy been living in my van for 6 years or so.havent read the thread yet but will take questions while i do
Well you can share the basics with us.
What area(s) did you inhabit?
Did you do the typical Walmart parking lot/gym membership method?
Circumstances of decision to live in a van.
>Circumstances of decision to live in a van.
got out of ltr and kinda ot fed in the deal and couldnt get another apt until i paid off like 4k so i went mobile
not really though i do meet ladies often .
i am a trained electrician and mechanic. both i have found to be invaluable skills while on the road. easy to find work and keeps the van running
mostly what yo see . have 2x210 amp hour deep cycles and 200 ft extension cord . would like solar but dont have nuff cash for that atm. 12 gallon water tank that im gonna up to 24 when i can and i plan on a full over hail this summer to make better use of space and fit a chem toilet .
seeing the world . making memories instead of being a slave to money. keeps me on my toes and always thinking
can be lonely. fraught with possible disasters at every turn
>Did you do the typical Walmart parking lot/gym membership method?
yes i have done both . i also stealth camp . use campgrounds and jobsites or shop if the owners are cool
>What area(s) did you inhabit?
texas in the winter, travel north in spring , try to spend summer with son in montanna, and back south in th fall. thats my usual but has changed when i felt the need to wander
my favorite is my laundry chute lol
Keep the pics coming! I'd like to see angles of the exterior, as well as every modified system you've done.
How much money have you put into your setup?
By stealth camping, you mean trespassing? (no judgement here, I'd do that too)
Where are some places you'd like to go? And never go again.
What would be your dream setup within reason?
Ever plan on buying land and homesteading?
How old are you?
>How old are you
>Ever plan on buying land and homesteading
nope. it seems i have become addicted to the road now
>Where are some places you'd like to go? And never go again
well ill never go back to FL or CA again lol i would like to start in russia and head to south africa if i could . but that just a drean . wouldnt mind driving or costa rica or panama though when my son gets older
>By stealth camping, you mean trespassing
yea i guess you could say that. when im on the go i use streets and apartment parking for stealth camping. they usually dont notice
>How much money have you put into your setup?
as she sits now around 3500 bucks
> I'd like to see angles of the exterior, as well as every modified system you've done
pic related is the only pic i have of exterior right now . had a thumbdrive crash on me. lost most of my pics . the ones im posting are just the ones i have on my HD. but will post more tomorrow if i can . may be this weekend though.
always have this to keep me going
heres one that may be interesting. my ignition went out about 3 years ago and i had to make this until i could get it fixed. it incorporated my skills as an electrician and mechanic lol
this is how i like to wake up.
>protip: bolivar peninsula north of galveston is 10 dollars a year to camp on the beach with fires being ok and booze being ok
i also like to draw lol. sorry just looking for more pics in my van
Few years ago i traveled around Australia with that. It's a commercial version, so not window on the side but it is more discret like that.
We had to create few things here and there but eventually it was quite functional for my gf and I and we had a "real" bed in it.
We put so many stuff in it that it became very underpowered for its weight. As a result, climbing a big hill was some kind of adventure sometimes, waiting for the motor to explose :)
Next time I'll probably choose a AWD though, even if a Toyota can deal with some little off road if necessary. Please note the terrible work I've done with this tint film on the rear window.
To conclude, I'll say it was probably one of our best life experience so far. If you can do it, go ahead you won't regret it and travel like that is very cool. I will probably do the same thing but on a boat this time, in few years. Spirit is the same I think.
>The most terrifying fact about the universe is not that it is hostile but that it is indifferent; but if we can come to terms with this indifference and accept the challenges of life within the boundaries of death — however mutable man may be able to make them — our existence as a species can have genuine meaning and fulfillment. However vast the darkness, we must supply our own light.
hot in the summer to 40-60 in the winter. drops below freezing maybe one week a year it seems. i am usually there in the late spring early fall. spend 2-3 moths a year close to bolivar . and for 10 bucks you wont beat it
I have a little '96 Cherokee and I'm a broke college kid. Are there any XJ owners here and/or ideas to help turn her into an /out/-mobile on a budget?
2000 chevy astro awd
starting my build this week actually
If you live near a 24 hour WalMart... that's your toilet. :P
Done this many times, live in parking lot for a few weeks. They don't care long as you buy some snacks and junk every now and then.
Seeing all of these reminds me why I bought a camper trailer, that is currently sitting half-stripped under a tarp, because it leaks, and I can't figure out how to fix it. :(
Anyone know any good roof sealant? Like something to spread on to make essentially a coat of rubber is what I was thinking... because sealing cracks so far has gotten me close to no where. :(
That sounds like a genius idea... I will definitely look into it!
I don't want to get rid of the thing, really... because I know I won't get much for it. (Certainly not what I paid for it... man that's the last time I buy something I know nothing about...)
And I just really like having a mobile house, I mean, it's great to just pick up and go.
Hopefully something will come along and we'll be able to save it before I have to re-do the frame pieces, again.
Put it on thick! If you go the roller route make sure you get a few rollers because they will eat those rollers up. I think if you used a hand brush you could probably put it on thicker or just apply a couple of coats.
I myself have been looking into travel trailers for the pick up and go experience.
Yeah, I tried to spray that over where I thought the leak was coming from... but it turns out that it still leaks somehow... so I assume it isn't going THROUGH that, it's just leaking from some other crack up there. So I'd have to cover the whole damn thing... but hey if it works.
You own one of my dream cars
yeah, I know two french girls who do this in australia. they go fro places to places to be fucked by a few surfers willing to satisfy them.
Most RV water heaters can support MAYBE one quick hot shower every 6 hours. :P But it helps to make sure you've got an efficient shower head... because the recovery rate on small water heaters is usually slow.
Take out the seat, put down a custom cut piece of plywood covered with carpet between the dash and the rear hatch. Now you have a real bed platform so you can sleep like a human.
Its not like you have a gf to ride with you so you dont need the seat on these trips.
Well, what modifications are you allowed to make? What equipment do you have to carry, what tools and experience do you have with machining parts, etc?
A lot of things can be done, some of which even aren't ill-advised.
Might we know what year this car is?
Ugh, you gotta be kidding. What a retarded investment on your part.
If you are not making at least 6 figures , you are being financially irresponsible driving a brand new car.
Now you have to worry about scratching it when out.
What a fucking retard.
Sell that thing and get an awd minivan with at least 60k miles.
You should of only one side of the cab to make a bed. You can easily climb in and out, easier to close and open the hatches. I did it my way and your way when I lived in my truck for almost a yr, my way was so much easier.
Apologies, picture download has black tint and text over it.
How the fuck do I get a van like this? I'm hate my life and plan on pulling a full uncle Rico and van living in the mountains, I can always just like drive an hour or so home if it doesn't end well. Also how much money would a van like this cost.
Fuck that link doesn't work, here's a screen shot.
Yeah I know I Gotta charge my shit.
Recently bought a 1996 E-150 cargo van I'm going to kit out as a little camper and live in it for a bit while I travel for a few months. Equipping some thick insulation and 200W of solar power with battery banks to keep going with a fridge and charging laptop/phone.
>How the fuck do I get a van like this?
You just look around at used car lots and classified ads. Those vans are typically 15-25 years old so set aside a couple grand back for repairs. I believe they get about 15-17mpg so that's something to also think about.
Have you thought of perhaps a composting toilet? You have a lot of access to saw dust. I saw a you tube where a guy just uses lots of plastic bags in a 5 gal bucket and throws kitty litter in it.
Guy I knew lives in a sail boat, bought a compost toilet for it. He loved it. Better than timing his shits he would say
I would always recommend the truck camper route. You can always take the camper off if you find a god place to work camp, and you can still use your truck.
Well a 1500+lb box on he back of anything is going to handle like ass. Towing a trailer is a PITA most of the time, and gets worse of you have to get anywhere remote or off road.
I like the "minimalist" or "off road" truck campers, I don't need much. Brand new truck campers like >>663670 can go for over $60k which is pretty ridiculous. You'd be better off getting a normal travel trailer at that price range.
I've camped in pic related a number of times. Works well for 2 people but they're kind of expensive because people like to collect them when they have a midlife crisis.
Very nice and cozy though.
Hate to disagree with you but u can get a used one for about 20 trust me I just bought a brand new 30 foot TT last year and I'm already finding stuff I'm gonna need to work on during breakup. Full fiberglass capsule is the way to go.
You will need to put some metal saw horses under them once off the bed of the truck. Most people prefer these on the Alcan. Unless you are doing some massive rock climbing in it it won't hinder the trucks movement. But if u were to get either the cab, TT, or 5th wheel, airbags would be adviseable for what OP is planning
Oh I know they're cheap used. Trailers and RV's in general depreciate like a motherfucker. All the rig workers here are selling their brand new toy haulers for dirt cheap as they get laid off.
That they do... freaking leaks and stuff are a bitch.
Fiberglass roof (one-piece) is the way to go, in my opinion.
Speaking of which, anyone in the Alabama area know where I could get such a thing cheap-like?
This is what I saw about a year ago, and I think its the sh*****t!
Its smaller to a Defender, so better on some trails.
With this camper addition it has lots and lots of room.
It's not permanent, so can be removed when not needed (would be most of the time in my case).