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ITT: campervans. Have you a campervan ? What do you think of travelling/camping in a van ? Tipps, experiences... ?

Van is love
Van is light
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>>398366
do want
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Not a campvan, but a Scamp is super lightweight and you don't need a truck to tow it.

I've been (S)camping with a buddy of mine in the Colorado Rockies. It'll go just about anywhere, and is a good home base to have near a trailhead.
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>>398385
how much?
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>>398391
http://www.fiberglass-rv-4sale.com/scamp-trailers-for-sale
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>>398366

Fuck you
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>>398385
I always kinda wanted a scamp or casita
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>>398366
>What do you think of travelling/camping in a van?

They're pretty cool but I've always preferred pop-up campers, particularly
the insulated aluminum and fiberglass A-frame types by Aliner and Chalet.

A pop-up camper is cheeper to buy, the insurance costs are lower, it's easier
to store in the off-season, provides more interior space which is easier to access
and allows you to leave the camper at your camp site and drive the vehicle into
town or wherever.
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>>398457
What's the price range?
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>>398461

They're pretty expensive; +/- $10,000 for a used newer model.
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>>398366
>campervan
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>>398479
You know how much those things cost right?
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>>398479

>out
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>>398366
>Van is love
>Van is light


Westfalia is German for love.
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>>400056

>that $25,000 synchro

All of my wantings
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>>400056
almost erotic
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My uncle lives out of a converted Royal Mail Post Van. He's put in a bed, stove and icebox for food storage. Its kinda cool and all but not really comfortable for more than a few hours of being inside and not sleeping due to the low roof. That said, at £800 including furnishings, its served him pretty well for the last 5 years as he's toured Europe in it.

When I'm older, richer and not in Uni, I hope to do something similar but I think I'll get something with a bit more height in the back like a Ford Transit and do a proper conversion with lighting, wall panelling etc.
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>>398479

>kyaking in the desert
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>>398457
I really like the idea of those save for one aspect - it's impossible to just park up anywhere you fancy and sleep in the thing without putting it in full "HEY EVERYWONE I"M CAMPING HERE" mode. That's kinda important to me if not everyone. Shame really because for all the reasons you mention they're pretty dam good devices.
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>>400189
Oh cool.

Got any pics of his setup?
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>>401702
I'll take a look once I'm home at the weekend, but I doubt it. If the thread's still alive in a week or two I'll upload some pics then as he's leaving in my garage over winter while he travels round India.
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>>398366
I'm buying a Chevy Astro minivan tomorrow. Ideas on mods to make it a campervan for going /out/?
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>>401758
There is a pop top kit for those if you look hard enough.
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>>401923
Sweet. Thanks, Anon.
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>>402076
> Astro camper van

Now that would have been cool, as Astros (and the S10/15 trucks they were based on) were good vehicles and could be had with all-wheel drive (or modified for 4x4).
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>>402087
If I end up getting this van (never trust used car salesmen), I'll hunt down a pop top and post pics of my adventures /out/ innawoods, onnaplains, and innamountains.
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>>398397
What?
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>>402102
He said, "Fuck you"
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>>398366
/r/equesting Vandweller archive and info
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>>400056
syncro makes my dick hard
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>>402113
Yeah but why?
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>>402126
+1
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>>400056
Since watching The Wild Thornberries, I've wanted a ladder on the side of my adventure van.
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I own a soccer mom Toyota Symphony that had been passed down through everyone until it sat on the driveway, unused, for a year or so.

I love camping, especially when I can just take off whenever shit gets too shit, so the van seemed good choice.

Got it tuned up, took out the back seats, invested in some decent camping stoves, and saved a friend's old, thin mattress.

I've used it occasionally as a cobbled together mobile tent. Any diy suggestions to improve or give me inspiration?

Any personal experiences with this? I know it's not replacing backpacking, but it's stll a super cheap way to give yourself a reasonable vacation.


Tldt; I love my hand me down van and wNt to get more love out of her (on a diy budget)
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>>402394

This thread is relevant to my interests
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>>402394
Being part of an online community of van people is a good start. Since i am a westfalia guy ,the samba is perfect for me.
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>>402161
Probably because it doesn't involve some super ultralight bullshit.
Those fags don't think it's camping unless you're miserable and suffering, shivering under a tarp.
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>>402345
Oh shit nigga
Muh nostalgia
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Tfw most of you just want want because you watched the wild thornberrys as kids and have forgotten what sparked your interest.
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>>402648
Thornberry are gay.
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>>398366
I think its awesome. My cousin lives in a DHL van (biggest size) that he made into a RV type thing with a kitchen / cabinets / bed / seating and table. It's really nice. for a whole week we just parked next to a creek to fish all day and when we came back your in a house with everything you need
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>>402630
If youre sleeping in a domicile thats more luxurious than houses in the developing world, its not camping imo
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>>402918
I've bushcrafted domiciles more luxurious than houses in the developing world.
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This thread is relevant to my interests as well.
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>>402915
Jelly fag
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>>402076
What's the purpose of the pop top? Is it just extra headroom, or is there bedding?
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If I had the money...
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>>402976
Extra headroom and natural lighting, I believe.
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>>402978
Those hitops are a pretty good deal still.
Way cheaper than a Westy.
Also you can make them yourself from a tin top.
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>>402918
its not really camping if you are using a tent that costs more than a house the developing world.
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>>403254
Not that anon but that's a stupid argument.
You're saying that an expedition tent on Everest isn't camping because it costs less than sticks woven together in Africa. That's right, there are still tribes on Africa that use sticks to build their house.
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I live full time in a Westy, but also have a Syncro that I'm putting a modern engine into and converting it to a camper.

One thing I will say to those that dream of westys or Vanagons in general, have a toolkit and learn how to use it..
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>>403661
Full time?
Where are you living?
What do you do for heat?
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>>402978
that feel...
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>>403661
/r/equesting more !
How do you have it layed out ? Pictures ?
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>>403661
What tools, and use them how? Do you mean basic engine/vehicle repair? What kinds of issues have you had to repair yourself? Lease ends in 8 months, saving up for van.
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Not a van but take pic related camping now, that way if it rains or something I just take all the shit out and put it under a tarp, unroll my swag in the back and sleep in the car, shit's comfy.
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>>404243
Well what is it?
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>>404259
Opel Omega B wagon, back seats are folded down.
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>>398366
Any mods for extreme cold? >>396686 is going to freeze or burn to death.
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What's the "off season"
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>>405322
insulation ? propane heater ?
no problem in a van but a car...
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>>405348
>propane heater
Are there any weird fumes or anything?
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>>398366
How do you keep drinking water in your vans in below-freezing temps?
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>>405737
You need a vented propane heater.
Google propex.
They ain't cheap.
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>>405904
Any portable solutions that I could take outtavan and innawoods with a small propane tank?
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>>398366
Are there any plans up online for wiring up an auxiliary battery for running heaters and appliances without draining the main battery? I remember Van Dweller had such a setup.
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>>398366
What's the best way to insulate a van? What do you do with your windows?
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bump for pics of toyota hilux camper
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>>406160

sorry meant hiACE
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>>405813
cabin is insulated and heated
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>>405981
the Mr. Heater MH18B has a compartment for a propane tank so you could carry it /out/
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>>406173
All the time?

>>406174
>Mr. Heater MH18B
Thanks, looking it up now.
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>>406174
According to Mr. Heaters formula (Cubic Feet x Temperature Increase x .133 = Required BTUs) I think I should be fine with the Little Buddy (Heats up to 3,800 BTU/HR) in a Chevy Astro (170 cubic feet) while trying to achieve an unnecessarily toasty 70F in -40F weather (110F increase).

170 * 110 * 0.133 = 2,487.1 < 3,800

Am I missing something?
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>>406179
>Am I missing something?
Besides units in the calculation, of course.
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>>406179
Mr buddy does not quite have enough BTUs to heat a van when its really cold.
Also not super safe to run for extended periods .
One cheesy oxygen sensor is the only thing keeping you alive.
Also they suck at high altitude.
Oh and unvented propane is full of moisture so your whole van gets sopping wet by morning.
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>>406213
>Mr buddy does not quite have enough BTUs to heat a van when its really cold.

I have disagree.

We used a Mr.Buddy standard model (hooked to a 20lb tank) in a pop-up camper for deer hunting in Michigan for years
and even on the low setting, it was too warm. In the mornings, sparking up a single mantel propane lantern would heat
the camper up t-shirt levels within minutes.

> Also not super safe to run for extended periods

We'd crack the roof vent a 1/2" and sufficient outside air leaked in that I'm still here today.
In a van, I'd crack two windows, maybe the driver's side and a tip-out in the back door.

> Oh and unvented propane is full of moisture so your whole van gets sopping wet by morning.

Depending the humidity outside, that can be an issue with any heater.

Hunted a Thanksgiving weekend one time when it rained every day and snowed every night and waking up the first morning,
I thought the pop-up camper had sprung a leak, as the foot of my sleeping bag was soaked from all the humidity dripping down
the walls inside.
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>>406318
>Thanksgiving
Brother get out there in February and try again.
I can tell you it does not cut it for ski camping and I am in a little westy with the top down.
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>>406180
lel
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>>398479
>>399907
These are exorbitant, but pretty cool, here's one in action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF4paczPcf0

I'm semi neet so probably can't do a second vehicle atm (other than a enduro moto, which is my first priority), so I'm looking to outfit my DD AWD wagon/crossover into a camper. (Midwestern atm so it's not like I need anything too off-road ready.)
It's massive so plenty of room to fit a mattress for me and my partner, but I'll probably have to do cooking/sink on a mobile setup.
I'm trying to figure out where to put my marine batteries, right now I'm thinking of getting a trailer hitch and fold down storage, and putting it out there, along with a bike rack.

>>406160

Have you seen the Topgear where they attempt to destroy a Hilux?
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>>405989
Those emergency blanlets. Similar foil is to be found at a hardware store in the gardening section.

Just lining it with polar like blankets helps - get as large ones as possible and fit them in accordingly.

Not cheap but best: DYNAMAT. Makes it quiet, insulates.
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I'm saving up for either a transit or sprinter van.
Can't wait. I've lived my car and that was OK. Downsides were no privacy and having to find secluded parking without attracting attention from people/police.
I also had a 97 ford van that broke down so I camped in the same spot for a few months.
I plan on making it super comfy/stealthy/organized/insulated(sound,thermal)/sexy( I plan on fucking bitches)/out/g/v/.
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>>408051
>( I plan on fucking bitches)
I don't see that happening much tbo anon
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>>408053
kek
This isn't the 60's anon.
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>>400056
>those bars above the solar panel
that shit will lose you over 50% of your watts. fucking fuck
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>>406175
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At all times the cabin is kept above freezing or the water tanks are heated
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>>398366
How should I outfit my Ford Escape for cold weather urban camping? Hardmode: I'm 6'1" and might be roping a lady friend into my misadventures.
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anti axe thread bump
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>>409892
They are really getting a pain...
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>>408147
They're called roof racks m8.
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>>398366

Try this site for a lot of good info on living off the grid. I'm in a van at Myrtle Beach, SC.

http://www.cheaprvliving.com/
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>>398366
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XgoVP1ktY0

This guy has a genius one, and it doesnt even cost so much
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I don't have a van but I do own a truck.
Its a light truck with a single cab and a raised PVC canopy.

My camping kit is basically a foam mattress and a wool blanket.

Worst thing about 'camping' with it is there is no place to shower
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I'm planning to do some crazy, soul-searching life adventure through Europe after I get my degree for like 2-6 months. I wanna travel all over the place while I'm there, so would it be a terrible idea to get a camper van or a small truck with a cabover and live in that for the time? I don't know how prevalent they are overseas, but I feel like I could find one for maybe 2 or 3 grand that would last me for a few months.
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>>412040
Plenty of decent vans in Europe under €2000 or even less.
You should know that most of your cost will go towards paying Insurance and road tax, depending on the country.
Don't buy anything from UK. It will be rotten from rust.

The older MkII, MkIII Mk IV, Mk V Ford Transit series of vans are cheap and very reliable, but also noisy, dirty, and old.
Plus they are mostly workman's vans and will be beat to shit.

Peugeot Boxer, Fiat Ducato, Citroen Jumper, Mercedes Sprinter and the newer Transit all drive like cars and you may even find some in Automatic Transmission.

Smaller vans like Peugeot Partner, Renault Kangoo, Citroen Berlingo, Mercedes Vito, Fiat Doblo, VW Transporter, Transit Connect
are big enough for a person to sleep in but still small enough to find parking spaces in a city.

All of the above basically come in panel van and passenger carrier variants.

You should also consider an Estate wagon or a Mini-Van.
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>>410014
a pain in the axe
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>>411741
>carpet
noooooooooooooooooooo

>never being able to stand up
plz no.

>using a coach bed
nice. good idea.

>dual burner soove
Overkill. In such limited space a single burner stove would be better. and could be put away and thus free that entire table up.
>no picture of the shitter

>what looks to be zero ventilation or windows
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>>412723
No windows is better for security

And why would you ever need to stand up? Its just a place to sleep in, not an RV
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Pic from a Sprinter van conversion from /diy/ (though the updated pic showed AGM batteries).
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>>413598
That's pretty cool but where poop?
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>>414108
>That's pretty cool but where poop?

Nearby fast food joints and such.

Hay, you wanted to live in a van....
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>>402976
Extra headroom so you can stand up, and some pop tops do have the bed up there to save room for storage and such below.
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>>413598
nice but this only works for midgets, vertically still works though but needs longer bed

anyone +2 meters have experience?
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>>405322
Generator, pure sine inverter, and an electric space heater.
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>>402126
http://www.cheaprvliving.com/steves-van-conversion/
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>>403661
You can pull that VW garbage out and install a Subaru boxer engine in most of those.
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>>414161
I actually did sleep a couple of nights in a Ford Econoline van.

It was brand new van with nothing inside - just the bare metal and a mat at the bottom. Since it wasn't long term I didnt have to convert anything: just put in a thermarest, sleeping bag, and enjoy;)
I did have to fit lengthwise (head to the front of the van, feet towards the rear of the van), because I wouldn't fit otherwise.
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Do you think this would be noticed in a WalMart parking lot. Just a little to much baggage.
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>>414749
There are no Walmarts England.
But those seem to be pretty common at Tesco or ASDA.
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I miss vandweller. :(
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I've been traveling the country for over a year in a van. It's a great way to see the places you likely never would, if you lived a normal worker bee life.

Lots of people do it and it's a growing lifestyle. We have a sub over on reddit search vandwellers.
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>>398385
>need a truck to tow a caravan
You can tow pretty large caravans with your normal car.
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>>398457
They don't start leaking after a few years?
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>>406538
You can buy a house for that price...
The point of the van is to be cheap.
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>>412723
>no picture of the shitter
Probably no hitter.

Two stoves are better if you plan to really cook, with sausage and all. Carpet is a good idea for ground insulation. Give its door locker, there is still some air movement in the van.
On the native version of the van, there is openings to prevent the air to be trapped in the van but he probably filled it with the insulation.

It is a good DIY van. Would live in.
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>>415581
From what I understand everything from Van Dweller was transferred over to:

http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/
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haven't you seen this yet?

http://imgur.com/a/sR3r9
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>>416129
Not practical. At all.

I understand it is for alpinists who want to sleep close of the path, but:
-contain only one mattress and a sono
-you have to open the door to take an item
-imagine it rain
-cannot cook
-sleeping bags on a bed
-no insulation
-unused volumes
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>>416065
Only in europe. In the US we have badly designed hitches so a truck is required to tow most trailers :\
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>>416129
Bad idea. Might as well load the back of the truck with a tent and gear. Not even stealthy if that's what your going for.
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>>416133
>>416174

Christ you guys are fussy.
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>>416129
Love the concept, but the execution on -that- one looks a skosh heavy.
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>>416177
> not liking an obviously shit idea
> fussy

k
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>>416233
I spent a couple weeks last year sleeping in the back of my volvo... That truck with that basic shit going on would have been miles better - so maybe it's relative, but yeah, it's not a bad little setup for what it is.

More to the point - this recent internet trend of always trying to sound superior doesn't do anyone any good.
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>>416241
I'm being gifted a 2003 Subaru Impreza hatchback. Any ideas on how to pimp it out for camping?
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>>416243
>I'm being gifted a 2003 Subaru Impreza hatchback. Any ideas on how to pimp it out for camping?

I wouldn't bother trying to sleep in it, as it's too small and most of your gear will have to be stored outside and that's dumb.
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>>416233
Except it's not a "shit" idea, just a less than optimal choice of material for design.
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>>416248
>fancy camping stove all to cook a can of spaghettios
how about a sterno, or a portable butane stove
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>>416358
>sterno, or a portable butane stove
how about leaving them on a dash in the sun and eating them room temperature out the can like the fucking hobo that you are if youre living in your car
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>>416346
No, It's a shit idea, With shit choice of material for design.

>No Room to move
>Cant sit up
>Poorly Insulated
>Have to store majority of things outside
>All cooking, Hygiene, most eating done outside

Just about everything about it is a garbage shitty fucktastrophy of a an idea.

For a night or two to crash? Fine.
Long term? Very uncomfortable to 95% of people.

The only thing "Cool" about it is its use of space beneath the mattress, But since the bed of the truck is so fucking small to begin with, Trying to have space is a losing battle.
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>>416248
With my volvo I pretty much just removed as much crap as possible to get an idea what i had to work with. Taking the rear seat bases out and folding the back down gave me just enough room to stretch out on a flat surface, but you'll have to fuck about with yours and see what you get.

I then got a piece of "hard as I could get for cheap" foam ordered to line the back, a couple inches thick.

That was pretty much the basics of it. After that it was all about making little curtains to privacy it off a bit, and figuring out where to store stuff, and adding lights here and there.

Give it a try, it's cheap and a lot of fun. Don't be tempted to take too much, keep everything essential and easy to find. If you find a way to sit up in the back of the thing that'll make life a LOT nicer for you.

Oh... And the cheapo tarp in the pic was awesome, well worth doing.
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>>416433

It's a truck with a hard top, and a bed jimmied into the back. It is what it is.
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>>416479
Quoted the wrong guy there.

Didn't want the guy saying it's not worth bothering.

Wanted the guy asking for tips:
>>416243
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>>416479

Thats bretty cool. What do you use it for?
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>>416566
Generally it's just the big-ass car for lugging shit about in that we don't care about getting dirty or whatever... But that trip, and the reason for 'converting' it, was a two week road trip round scotland. Awesome trip it was, 1880 miles of good times, camped it in all sorts of cool spots like pic related.

That's the only time I've slept in it but we've still got all the shit so it's there if we need it.
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3-phase generator above drivers position, uses the twin fueltanks. Killswitch inside cabin if needed.
Eperspächer also using the twin fueltanks, pretty silent and powerful as -34C is not a problem.
Engine has the "fire under oilpan heater", but after night on a nice morning of -34c it started without heat on first, leaving black soot on 3 meter radius around the exhaust.
Sleeping either on the tables or in hammocs.
12V system when generator is not runnig, also powers the eperspächer and radio.
Compressor, MIG welder and acetylene torch registered in (no need for Dangerous Goods permit for the gas tanks).
AK mounts for the driver and co-driver.
And the coffee maker, all you need for a nice trip.
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>>416605
Tell me more please.
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>>416433
You're misunderstanding a bad idea with a bad application of the design.

The idea is sound, it's just dimensioned poorly for the space.

As to your other critiques, there are these things called "motorhomes" that seem to be more what you're after.
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>>414275
Doing a subie swap would be a lot of work. Nobody makes motor mounts for EJs plus custom wiring harness. Also I don't think the type4 trannies can handle the hp an EJ puts out.
I really really want a westy or something with an EJ swap tho...
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>>416233
Thats a dirtbag's truck. Dirtbags are those wiry rock climbers with dreadlocks you see all over the south west.

Its not a shit idea.
Its great if you just need a place to sleep and store some gear. If you want a living space you out to get an RV, or a box truck

The only thing keeping that rig from being completely comfortable in the long term is a shower. But you don't get that in a van either.


That said, I went a different route on my truck

I have a wood chest where I keep all my shit I need for every day life. Everything is separated in plastic containers.

I have two wood wheel well storage boxes where I keep axes, shovels saws ropes, truck spares, emergency gear, and other tools.

For bedding I have a foam mattress, a plain white sheet, and small pillow, and a wool blanket.
None of that fancy memory foam. Just a 7 feet of 4" thick ordinary yellow foam with a home made canvas cover.

I can fold up the mattress in three to make a decent seat.

And there's still space for a euro pallet.
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>>416601
I'm going to live out of a car for one or two years. I'm deciding whether I want a minivan or something smaller, like a Passat or Mazda 5 or Imprezza. Do you think you could have lived in the wagon long term? Weather is not an issue and I'm a minimalist, very little stuff to store. Plus it's just me, no girl. Thoughts?
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>>417773

What would you do to shower and handle other hygiene stuff like that? I live in a rural area, so I can't just drop by the YMCA and bathe there.
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i just bought a 2014 tacoma access cab. looking for shelf plans for bed. already have an ARE MX camper shell.
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>>417773
Can't say I'd recommend a wagon for anything even remotely long term. Not being able to sit up and stretch a little would (did) get old pretty fast. Ok for a short while in nice weather but meh for anything longer I'd imagine.

I'd deffo go for a small van if I had to buy something for the job, or maybe a minivan / people carrier or whatever if stealth was important.
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>>417857
I live in a big city. I'm actually a college student, and I already shower at the gym 5 days a week. Sleeping in a car just seems like a natural choice. By real worry is what I'll do when I want piece and quiet. Then again, I could just drive out of town and chill outside. For your case, idk. Local gym? Maybe work a deal out with a friend, $25/month to use their shower occasionally.

>>417895
Yeah, I'm back and forth between minivan and wagon. I could sleep fine in both and store all my stuff fine. I guess I mostly want a wagon because they have better mpg and my friends won't ask wtf I'm doing with a minivan.
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>>418801
> I guess I mostly want a wagon because they have better mpg

If we're talking a Ford E250 van vs. a Subaru ricer wagon then you might have a point but if it's a station wagon vs. a mini-van, the difference in gas milage is unnoticeable, yet the loss of headroom in a station wagon would be continually and annoyingly noticeable.

> and my friends won't ask wtf I'm doing with a minivan.

And they won't ask why you've got a soccer mom station wagon?
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>>418801
Minivans become cool as fuck once kitted out to sleep in... They just suddenly flip.
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holy shit i want a camp van so bad now
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>>418926
Explain your logic. Pics? How would you kit it? I was just going to throw my blankets in the back with the seat stowed away.
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>>401696

In the desert the river is the road, my friend.
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>>401696
This guy's never been to Arizona.
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I lived on a camp bed in the back of a Ford transit when I was working on the railways all over Scotland. Not Insulated so slung a tarp over my bed Christ it was rough sleeping in a van with spilt diesel and waking damp with condesation every morning. I loved it by the end as we rolled into summer. Hard work and simple living is good for the soul. On the oil rigs now and I pine for the old Van. Gonna buy an old Ford transit only advice I've been given is to get one from a local painter or joiner as it will not have carried anything heavy.
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>>418932
Then do it.
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>>420045
>Gonna buy an old Ford transit only advice I've been given is to get one from a local painter or joiner as it will not have carried anything heavy.

Your biggest concern should be rust, especially on the underside and mudguards, and the area around the windscreen.

Then again, rust pretty much destroys the value of a van, so if you're good with a grinder and body filler you will save a lot of money.


Transits with the di engine last forever and if it runs good you shouldn't worry about what loads it carried.
I've seen 20 year old transits in third world countries carrying 3 tons without breaking a sweat.

Generally, delivery vans for smaller shops like florists are kept in more presentable condition than your average workman's white van.
Interior wood paneling is a big plus
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I've got an uncle who makes these things out of Unimogs in Germany apparently. I'll try and get some pictures and post them if the thread is still up.
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>>423862
Please do. That sounds interesting.
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>>398366
Holy shite, I toasted in this bread weeks ago... can't believe it's still alive
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A made the first campervan threads on /out/, good to see you guys are still talking about this.
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Why do people bother with expensive camper vans? If I stuck a mattress in the back of this and tied a storage bag to the back of the seat I'd be good to go right? Right??
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>>424064
I'm getting a hand me down subaru impreza hatchback from 03... planning on tossing a mufuggin twin mattress in the back of that and doing it up with my girl
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>>424065
That's awesome dude, I'm planning to do something similar. I'm saving right now to buy a van that I can live in. I'm going to put a mattress in the back and sell my computer to buy a decent laptop with mobile internet. I won't feel claustrophobic because I'll be outside most of the day, but whenever I want to just lock myself away from the world I'll be able to do that too, I won't have any room mates to come and fuck with me. I won't be so much a slave to money anymore, I won't be tied to a single location anymore, Gonna live /out/ life, it'll be great. I don't really need much more living space than is provided in the back of a van, I'll get to see so many great places without even leaving my home.

I got it almost all figured out, I just need to figure out a way to make money while on the road. I don't need much, just enough to supplement my savings so they last longer.
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>>424072
>and sell my computer to buy a decent laptop with mobile internet
Not sure if you're into it, but I bought my girl a chromebook for $200. It came with a T Mobile 4G card (faster than our home wifi) that has 200MB free per month for life. You can obviously sign up for more, too, if you like.

It's a chromebook, so it won't have the functionality of a mac or pc, but I find it useful enough. I can edit photos, do quick video edits, post to blogs, etc.

Blogs and shit might be a good way to get some $$$ while on the road, assuming you can get enough clicks.
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>Not sure if you're into it, but I bought my girl a chromebook for $200. It came with a T Mobile 4G card (faster than our home wifi) that has 200MB free per month for life.
That sounds quite reasonable, going to have to look into that. I assume you can't use the 4G card with something other than a chromebook? Not that it matters, $200 isn't that much
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>>424076
Uh. Not to shill, but woot's actually selling chrome books with that deal right now for about $200
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>>424073
>Blogs and shit might be a good way to get some $$$ while on the road, assuming you can get enough clicks.
Maybe, I suppose if I am doing a lot of travelling to nice locations then I'll have a blog worth reading. I imagine it's very hard to get off the ground with something like that though.

>>424077
hmmmm
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>>424076
I think you can use it with non chromebooks... it's just a sim card

>>424077
Also, do this immediately. The HP one. It is the exact one I got my girl, and it's her favorite computer she's had.
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>>424078
>I imagine it's very hard to get off the ground with something like that though.
My cousin makes about 80k off his blog, and it took him 4 months to get to a place where he could afford living.
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>>424080
yeah well, he probably has a big dick or something.

Seriously though, I don't see how people earn money from blogging. What do they use? Blogspot? Tumblr?
How do they make their money? With a google partnership or do they make a deal with some other company?
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>>424082
wasn't trying to boost my cousin's ego, anon

I'm not 100% sure how he makes money on it, but I'm pretty sure blogspot will pay you for the ad revenue generated on your blog

he got his own domain, though, so probably with google
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>>424037
Hi Ken.
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>>424257
Hi Barbie.
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>>424064
Yes, if you just want a place to sleep.

But some people want to live in their van like it was a house.
So they 'need' places to charge electronics, cook, shower compartmentalized storage etc
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I LOVE these threads
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>>424565
What a bunch of pointless shit.
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back to the top we go.
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Anybody consider buying one of those "short" buses to make a DIY campervan?

Pic related
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>>426892
>"short" buses

While a short bus provides plenty of internal room and windows, I would think any used school bus would have a bazillion miles on it, requiring quite a bit of mechanical rebuilding (in addition to renovating the interior as a living space) before I'd trust living day-to-day in one them.

As a hunting / camping mobile they'd be alright, as a break-down only results in a blown weekend but if it's your home and it fails, you could be up Shit's Creek.

Of course if you've got the money and skills, they can be turned into something pretty cool;
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>>426897
I'm salivating
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>>426897
>>426892
There are many businesses that make a living out of Class B motorhomes (bus/van conversions), and some can be quite expensive. As a DIY project, it will take awhile but worth the effort you put in. (it won't be as cheap as you think)
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>>427132
It definitely wouldn't be cheap, but the results would be closer to a true RV as opposed to a van.
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I am a student straight out of high school with an obviously and depressingly low budget. How do I go about selecting a cheap van and deciding what to put in it (electric, water, insulation?, etc)

PS I live in Texas, so security will involve a shotgun
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>>426897

How much does it matter if it's mechanically tired if it runs? It's not like you'll commute daily in one.
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>>427274
It's probably gas powered so you'd have to change every hose and some other stuff or the new fuel with ethanol in it will corrode the old rubber hoses/seals and your whole house will go up in flames.
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Large parts of my youth were spent in pic related

it had a bench seat which folded down into a bed and another up in the canopy that folded out (in case you don't know Volkswagens) The van had two heaters, one in the front and one in the back,which never operated at the same time, one would work for a week, then nothing, then the other would work, it had a fridge which we usually used as a cooler because it wasn't always reliable, it had a table you could put on an attachment that was on the counter top which had lots of storage, the bench seat was great for storing tools and stuff, although if you sat back there while it was running you could forget about hearing anything, especially the conversations of the people in front over the sound of the engine.

>I learned how to drive on this van

>I loved every single idiosyncrasy it had

> I was so fucking choked when my mom sold it two years ago
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>>427282
Im happy and sad for you (and jelly of you). Goodnight sweet prince, nevar4get
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>>427282
>> I was so fucking choked when my mom sold it two years ago

Fucking baby.
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>>427354
>Fucking baby.
>I was never happy as a kid
Lol he shows signs of emotional bonding to an object that enabled him an unique time.
lol emotions
Also, you should have claimed it yours.
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>>416248
BULLSHIT buddy!

You can (as I have) sleep like a king in the back of an Impreza (Height dependent, I'm 6'1 and it's still pleasant)

And if you don't go all Top Queer and put in a kitchenette with a working gas burner and sink, you'll have plenty of space for your belongings.
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>>416605
wut is it?
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>>427380
I'm the anon who originally asked the question.

Thanks, my girl and I are planning on using an inflatable mattress so we can store other items in the back while driving, then move those things to the front, inflate the mattress, and sleep at night.

Does that sound reasonable, or should we just put a real mattress back there?
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>>427368

I know but I didn't have the time or the space or the cash to do all the repairs that would be necessary, especially on a vehicle that I can only drive six months out of the year in my city anyways.

> would have been the ultimate stoner-mobile though
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>>398476
This picture is relevant to my interests. I'm going for a sit on top canoe as I'm a beginner and I'll take my kids on it. I'm not from USA so I weigh less than 150kg so we can all fit on a two seater.
Looking at camper trailers too but so many options not sure what to choose.
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>>427274
>How much does it matter if it's mechanically tired if it runs?

Because it it's mechanically tired, it may _not_ run when you need it to.

COP: "hay you, move along!"
YOU: "ok officer."

*whinny whinny whinny.... kerplunk*

YOU: "umm... seems my half-ass converted school bus just crapped out, officer."
COP: "not my problem, you can pay the towing company $300 to haul it out of here and $40 per day to store it."
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>>426897
You...do know a fucking SHITLOAD of people live in school buses, full time, year round, right?

Sure, if you DON'T know what you're doing when you buy the bus, it can be a problem. Any number of them are phased out for other reasons than mileage, however.
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>>427258
Get a crappy job and save up. You will not regret it.
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>>429433
This. Flip burgers/collect garbage/deliver pizzas. Work is shit but it allows you to do fun things.
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>>428490

It doesn't matter if people are living in them or not, a vehicle is a vehicle and endures X amount of wear & tear, requiring Y amount of maintenance after Z amount of miles.

And school buses are subjected to a particularly excessive amount of wear & tear, due to the constant stopping-and-starting type of exclusively urban driving their doing.

The school bus drivers hereabouts flog the shit out of their (full size) buses, as they're on a tight schedule and carry a ton of kids.
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>>403383
I think that what the one anon was saying to the other anon (we are neither of those anons, right?) was that comparing developed world camping with developing world living is absurd. It is comparing a mindset of getting down to basics in order to experience life with trying to get the basics in order to live life. They are both fags with store bought bug out bags while you and I could survive anything, anywhere with our everyday carry.
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>>402630
>shivering under a tarp.
Read this and all I had in my mind was ace ventura's lion grin form the second movie.
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>>415958
how do i find a job while traveling? I wanna know.
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>>430825
You'll probably want to check the Vandweller site for that. He had some helpful tips.
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>>413598
This is awesome. Electrically and mechanically it's sound, and there's a lot of extras that could be removed to save cost (i.e. AC) and it could be applied to pretty much any similar sized van. Would be interesting to see a finished model of this...
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>>431384
It's cool, but it looks really complicated and expensive for a do-it-yourselfer. Most van/campers are not nearly this new or sophisticated.
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Which van should I get for batoning?
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>>400056
Stop posting my Syncro faggots
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>>430825
literally anything you can telecommute for

get a chromebook with a 4g card and blog or something
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>>432358
just write "CANDY" on the side, and your journey to the dark side will be complete
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>>402978
>tfw my dad has had a VW Syncro 4X4 parked in the shed behind my house since before I was born.
>says every year he'll do it up into a camper van one day.
>We've always been too broke.
>I'm twenty-one now.
>tfw we'll probably never go on a father and son trip in the van, even though he had intended to do it my entire childhood.
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>>405986
All you need is a battery isolator which you connect between the positive terminals of your main (starter) battery and your auxiliary (accessory) batteries. They can be automatic (in which case it will automatically close the circuit while charging and open while discharging) or manual.
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>>432536
Start wotking on it for an hour each day. For another hour spend time looking for right people on the web, info on how and what to fix, where to get cheapest parts...

It will take time but after a year you will have 720+ hrs of work on this thing. It will be a gem:)
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>>432536
At least you have the van already. It would be much harder to get started if you had nothing and had to start from scratch.

>>432371
The Idea is that this kind of van would be a good "stealth campervan" not a mobile rape shack. Besides, that joke has been done to death.
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>>433444
>2014
>getting 10 mpg

do you even drive?
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>>433671
>1989+25
>Not aware that some of these are diesel

Also
>Bitching about mileage
>in a campervan thread
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>>398394
>>398391
Not too bad. You can get a good used popup for $1200 bucks if you shop around a while and they tow nicely, too. They're just not as bear-proof.
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Wife drives a Tahoe. We can take out the rear seats, fold down the middle seats, and sleep comfortably if we don't have both kids with us. I've got a Ford pickup with a fucking short bed that wouldn't be worth shit for sleeping even if it had a camper instead of a toolbox and rails.
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>>433444
>At least you have the van already. It would be much harder to get started if you had nothing and had to start from scratch.
Not really. For less than $1000 you can get a van that running and ready to go

Then all you need to be on your way is shit like a mattress and storage boxes.

Anything else you need can be fabricated along the way.
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>>433671
gas is 1.86 here in town. suck it poorfag.
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>>435139
>For less than $1000 you can get a van that running and ready to go

I don't know about that. It's hard to get a running car for a grand where I live, let alone something you would want to live out of.
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>>435148
>tfw it's the same price in Europe
>in Euros
>per liter
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>>435148
Is that price for per litre or what?
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>>435519
It's $1.99 US per gallon here. That's about 0.53€ per liter.
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>>435545
>about 0.53€ per liter
No way a euro is 4$.
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>>435573
You don't seem to do math very often. Good for you.
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>>435596
A gallon is nearly 4 liters, ya dingus.

Everyone's math was off.

$1.99/gallon is more equal to 0.43€/liter
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>>435148
>>435545


It feels good to be in the sub-$2.00 club.
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>>435573
No......

But a gallon of gas in places where they use the Euro is about 4 dollars.

>Check your units son
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>>435621
I forgot to do the final conversion of dollars to euros.

>>435573
Let's call a the price of gas $2/gallon to make the maths easy for you.

One gallon is 3.785 liters. That makes gas $2/3.785 liters, or $0.53US/liter. $0.53US is about 0,43€/liter. That means gas here is cheap.
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>>437202
i remember the 90s...
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this winnebago era goes for like $130k, and it has a wetbath. i gather it's more for the megawealthy soccer moms so they can bring a fridge along when they pick their kids up from school.
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>>437259
>One gallon
One gallon is 4.546 litres, m8.
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>>437791
Not a US gallon. An imperial gallon is about 1 1/5 US gallons. Or a US gallon is about 4/5 imperial gallon.

Didn't we just have this discussion about beer pints?
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>>437791
That's an Imperial/European gallon. A US gallon is just under 4 liters.

The disparity comes from back in the colonial days, when the shipping and receiving of alcohol from Europe to the colonies on slow moving ships did not account for the evaporation rate.
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>>437839
>>437829
Wouldn't it be easier if we all just used the same measurement system and forgot about all the old ones?
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>>437845
you are anti-american filth. pls go.
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>>437845
Pic related

There was a big push toward metrification in the 70's and 80's and it just never caught on. If it did I don't think it would be the end of the world, but I don't see much benefit out of it.
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>>437845
>implying that the metric system is used exclusively in most countries
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>>437856

>moon
>implying

come back when you can put something on a comet (without the use of a soundstage in nevada) using your shitty system
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>>437857
>the metric system is used exclusively in most countries
That's exactly what I'm implying.
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>>437859
>claiming "success" for rosetta
you had one job eurofags. just one fucking job. and ya blew it.
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>>437859
You seem mad...

>>437857
It varies. England has a total clusterfuck of a system with Celsius degrees, Miles an Hour, and weight in Stone (whatever the fuck that is).
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Anyway, can we go back to the original topic?
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>>437866
Same here in Canada. People in feet and pounds, distances in kilometers, produce in pounds, deli in grams, weather in celsius, cooking in fahrenheit, etc.
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>>437868
>>437866
Neither country used a "big-bang" approach to conversion like many others did and thus are in a a state of partially finished conversion.
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>>437867
no. lrn2-4chan.
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>>437868
That sound's confusing as hell.

>>437873
OK...
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>>437876
i just don't get class-b motor homes without permanent beds. the wetbaths are disgusting, but i can kind of understand them. but expecting to sleep on folded down auto seats is just not reasonable.
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>>424076

Neither is 200mb a month.
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>>437897
yeah, that's nothing. and a chromebook is a dumb terminal. you're just accessing resources on a google server rack somewhere. if you're out of data or have no connection, your chromebook is basically useless. you're far better served by spending 3 or 4 hundred on a windows machine.
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>>437897
>>437904
You can pay for more, retards. The 200mb is fuckin free.

>it will also cost you less than your average cable connection ($60/mo+)
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>>437913
sure, but you're forgetting your computer doesn't work at all without a net connection. at all. so they scam you into buying the terminal, but they've got you on the hook to pay for the connection forever.
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>>427282
this is honestly my dream car. fuck i'd love one.
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>>437942
my uncle died in one of those when it was blown off a california freeway by a crosswind in the 80's.
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aye i live full time in a fiat ducatto! over a year in this one, used to live in a converted mercedes 508d
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>>438170
Nice! Any advice?
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>>435621
>mfw i pay 1.60€/lt
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>>438170
show pictures pls
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>>402345
Goddamn that feel
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>>438602
It is more like 1€/l now.

Thank you based Putin.
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>>417727
can i see pics?
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>>437866
this is true. I'm from wales and people who have never been taught imperial measures at school (if you were born post '71 you should have never encountered then ) still use them frequently

eg

people use MGP to measure fuel economy in cars 99% of people under 30 have no idea what that actually means as pumps dispense in litres lol
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>>437961
>my uncle died in one of those when it was blown off a california freeway by a crosswind in the 80's.

Damn... Sorry anon.
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>>408147
Rack covers at most 10%
>derp, "lose you over 50% of your watts"
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>>437202
>tfw it's under $2 where I live right now
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