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>>936755
>caring about what you look like while /out/
>caring about what you wear affects your appearance when you are a fat fuck
>not checking the catalog to see that there is already a hat thread up

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Just got something simple like this brother

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>>936763
oh feck wrong link don't click on that one unless you live in the desert

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I was in Yosemite a few years ago around mid march and it snowed for a few days straight, with all the rain California is getting this winter I wouldnt be surprised if Yosemite and sequoia got snow during your visit

For that reason I would maybe look for a cabin, but if you're a man you can tent it

Yosemite falls is probably the best day hike to do in Yosemite, Nevada falls is nice but if it is cold and snowy you'll have to take this back route, which is fun but a bitch in its own right

>>936599
Parts of Yosemite have had over 20 feet of snow in the past month. Unless there's a freak heat wave the majority of the roads and trails will be closed until around the end of May.

cold and wet. and hwy 120 from 395 over tioga pass and through tuolumne is closed 'til late may, so don't plan to come in from the east unless you like backcountry skiing

>>936382
you can probably live on that stuff indefinitely but i'm sure it has a lot of salt and possibly cholesterol and whatnot. i wouldn't "live on" it just for fun. unless it's legit life or death i would eat maybe 5 cans per week and not more.

>>936382
>keep me alive? supplement? die of boredom?
Yes. Probably. Certainly.

>>936382

Show us the label.

My gut says you would live but become sick from all the salt and lack of certain nutrients.

Throw a protein shake a day in and I would feel better about it.

>>936184
>>936140
bird's eye peppers?

>>936140
They look like an ornamental kind

bumps

Anywhere /out/ has been that made an impression?

>>936199
There are lots of /out/ places in the US. I'm about as far west as you can go so its hard for me to recommend places that you'd want to consider driving to. Places that I've been to that maybe a reasonable drive for you would be the badlands or the black hills South Dakota. Western Montana is great. Glacier NP is amazing as is Grand Teton NP and Yellowstone. I hear the Michigan UP is cool. The Smoky Mountains are supposed to be great. The Taos NM area is supposed to be amazing. The Colorado Front Range has a lot to offer. Best I can offer. Hope you get some ideas.

>>936217
The western UP is awesome in the summer and winter if you like snow. I work as a forester in the region so if you want any specifics let me know

>>935811
Get a cheap one you don't care about damaging or wearing out and go for it.

>>935811
Like he said, get a cheap hatchet
That pic might work for someone just going through a rough week or so of sleep, but I've had insomnia my entire life and always sleep at random hours even when on a camping trip. I can force myself to get up at a certain time, given 39-45 minutes to roll around, but I can't fall asleep naturally at a time of my choosing.

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>>935811
What I have learned from trying to answer questions like this is that you base your gear on the environment you are going into, what you intend to do there and what you have to be prepared for. Starting with the gear without considering where and on what you intend to apply that gear will only lead to confusing and uninformed choices.

In the case of bladed tools, most can be used interchangeably for nearly all blade related tasks(with enough creativity and determination), but their specific characteristics are usually a response to a certain common problem or primary intended application.

A machete isn't as good at processing wood as a hatchet, but unlike a hatchet it excels at clearing dense light vegetation. So for jungles, rainforests and swamps a machete would be a better pick, but for most other areas a hatches would be better. If you are going out in a desert you might forgo both of them.

Bush(craft?) knives are typically intended for more precision woodwork, but won't be ideal for processing game, where as game knives are harder to use for woodwork.

All these tools can in some shape or form do what any of the other does, but processing game with a hatchet will quickly become a cumbersome chore, and batoning wood with a game knife will eventually snap it.

So, in summation, a tool can only be the "best" at a given task under a given set of conditions. If context is not specified then there is no metric against which to determine merit. Hence, there is no universal "best" tool for anything. People that claim some tool is the best are either trying to shill shiny crapware or lack /out/ experience in more than one environment.

>>935800
It uses kerosene

I've been looking into diesel powered camp stoves recently.
The reason being I can run it on waste oil.

>>935847
I could probably use diesel in this one I just have lots of kerosene on hand

>>935676
Faggot

>>935676
Anyone else agree this "outdoors/fun" fad needs to die out. The only time its useful is after you've already put yourself in the situation

>>935676
I don't think most people who practice Bushcraft do it for the reasons that you're stating.

I enjoy bushcraft because it's a hobby. I like learning about how I can use natural materials to my advantage. I also enjoy developing the skills associated with Bushcraft. In my opinion, it's a much more gratifying and hands-on approach to enjoying the outdoors.

For example, why spend money on commerically made fire-starters when you can learn the skills nessecary to make a fire using natural, renewable materials?

That being said there are a lot of people who think they're survivalists because they bought a $20 Gerber machete and water purification tablets at Wal Mart.

Suzuki DRZ400

didn't know dueling on bikes was still a thing

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Thanks >>935348
I have been looking at that particular bike how does it handle on highways

>>935215
Haven't climbed Aconcagua myself, but I have several friends who have, as well as having climbed several 5000m peaks myself, the highest being about 1000m lower than Aconcagua.

A few things about Aconcagua itself
>it's not a technically challenging climb
>unless approached from some specific valley - can't recall the name - it's actually ugly
>you have to collect all your shit (yes, actual shit) in an official plastic bag and hand it back after the climb or get fined
>said plastic bag is prone to tearing, so bring extra bags to secure official bag

About high altitude in general
>you'll probably be fine until ~3000-3500m, after which headache and shortness of breath will occur
>loss of apetite is common as well - stuff your fucking face every chance you get, you WILL lose weight even if you do, and you don't want to fail because you didn't eat enough
>drink even more, you will breathe out more hydrogen at high altitude, leading to dehydration and the classic headache
>many first time climbers resort to Diamox - I did as well - but almost everyone who uses it eventually stops if they continue mountaineering as the side effect are annoying and it camouflages altitude sickness signs rather than preventing them, potentially leading to dangerous situations - a regular painkiller to ease mild discomfort is fine though
>climb high, sleep low, go slow
>get used to walking with a backpack
>if you hit the gym work on cardio, rows, deadlifts or other stuff that really strengthens core and posterior chain
>don't overdress, also, don't underdress
>weather can take very sudden nasty turns
>invest in really warm gloves and shoes, you don't want to lose fingers or toes

Can answer more specific questions if needed.

Bump and a question. What Is the apeal of climbing this high mountain? Is it just the thrill of doing something very hard or something else? For me, as an amateur outist I see no reason to put myself thru it.

>>935237
Not easy to describe, but it's a combination of various elements
>you're /out/
>scenery is often amazing
>to add, it dwarfs you like nothing else can
>varied vegetation and environment
>them mountain sunsets
Everything is just more awe-inspiring to me. Also, it's a challenge and, potentially, an accomplishment like few you're likely to achieve during your lifetime. You have to be able to cope with discomfort to enjoy it. Much like bing sick for a while, then suddenly experiencing a massive natural high. Ive tried and done my share of things, but It's the only thing that can give me an endorphin rush. Also, the walk back down. Read some Reinhold Messner if you want a better understanding, I'm being too short and concise to really convey how it is. I personally never got it either until I actually did it.

Wish I had some pictures on this laptop.

>>934910
Is the $10K for the land or do you already have that?

10k will be just for the cabin. I plan on buying a small plot of land to place it on. 1/4 acre in SC is dirt cheap.

>>934930
Since it doesn't sound like you're getting hooked up to the grid for power or water anyway, why not just build it yourself? Fell some trees, stack 'em up, slap some concrete into the cracks and you're good to go.

>>934767
Not all parks just national parks. So there's like 2 or 3 in Ontario, closest is about 2 hours from Toronto.

For camping you can go all cushy style or you can go full Rambo or anything in between.

When camping in the parks you'll basically be renting a designated camp site. (I imagine they are just waiving the park entry fees) So it'll have nice groomed ground for you to park a camper or pitch a tent along with usually a picnic bench and a fire pit.

Rule #1 bring your own water. Most camp grounds have water outlets but the water is all silty.

When you factor in drinking water cooking water and water for cleaning stuff you can easily go through 1 or 2 gallons of water a day.

>>934793
If you are park camping in a cushy family-friendly campground I'd say minimum gear:

-bug-spray (and even with it you are going to get eaten alive)
-Sun-screen(assuming you'll be going in the warm season).
-Sleeping bag; weather rated for the expected temperature range.
-Air mattress or sleeping pad. (if you are a newbie, an air mattress would probably be best.)
-Matches
-Cordage (like rope, jute, paracord, etc. Marine rope and paracord are best cord)
-Wood (parks don't allow outside wood so you'll be buying it there anyway if you play by the rules)
-Fire starters (like those little cardboard square ones)
-food
-water
-Lawn chairs
-Tent (obviously)
-Tarps
-Comfy footwear if you want to walk any hiking trails
-A survival style knife.
-Camp stove. (it'll cost you an arm and a leg if you plan to cook everything over a log fire)
-Proper fuel for that stove.
-A cooler
-Clothing for all possible weather related contingencies.
-First aid kit
-A good full brim hat. There's two kinds of people on a hiking trail. People wearing hats, and corpses.
-Some method of carrying water with you if you go wandering around. Even an easy hike on a hot day, you'll go through water like a MF. For an afternoon hike I always bring a 2 gallon canteen full of nice cool fresh water, so I can rescue all the fools I encounter who thought a little sippy cup was going to get them all the way. And salty snacks to go with it. Because if you are going through water quickly your body will also be losing electrolytes. I like to bring a few tins of herring with me, but if you aren't strong enough to fight a bear you might want to pick something less smelly.
-Cookware. All I bring is an iron skillet and a 1 quart saucepan. It's all you need really.
-Plates/utensils/etc.
-Paper towel
-Hygene stuff, stuff you would pack for any road trip etc.

If I missed anything others feel free to chime in.

>>934739
>he likes this one

So are you waiting for me to ask which one that is before saying which one that is?

Ok, which one is that one?

Ah sorry about that.

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>>934755
> usb recharge
thank you just the upgradeto my BD reVolts I've been looking for!

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So many worthy causes...

>>934708

>paying money to get more disrespectful little shits outside

Fuck off, the fewer people I see while out the better

I want to kill everyone on the planet so I can have nature to myself.

>>934633
Tucson is a long way from Flag.

I'm in Prescott and I'm going today for the snow last night.

I'll post pics for you.

Otoh, the Grand Canyon and Sedona with snow is FREAKIN' AWESOME!

Both would make the trip worth it. I don't know yet how much new snow the Snowbowl (skiing) got last night, but the day before was 21" new.

Welcome to Arizona's Blizzard of 2017!

Pics to follow.

>>934649
Sorry, Email powder alert says 26" new at Snowbowl last night!

Not sure about Sunrise, which some consider a better mountain to ski. But I'm sure conditions are great.

Btw, Tucson is prolly ~5 hrs from Flag at 80mph.

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>>934649
Bit of a late start.

Between Prescott and Ashfork. Heavy snow bending and breaking shaggy bark juniper.