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>>1017440
I like to have a 25-30L daypack, and a ~60L full size backpack. I've found that even the high-end full-size frame packs don't compress enough to be truly comfortable with daypack-sized loads and encourage overpacking, so I'd rather drop the money on 2 separate bags.

I've never run out of room with the 60L packs, even on week-long trips or cold weather trips requiring a lot of insulated clothes. Partly because I don't cheap out on gear and as such I get really compressible stuff, and partly because I (generally) don't overpack.
>will never understand why my wife needs a full-size suitcase, a bookbag-sized backpack, a rolling carryon bag, and a beach-bag sized purse to go anywhere overnight
I literally slummed my way around Europe for 3 weeks with just a bookbag full of clothes.

>>1017440
I rock a 15 liter for day hikes. 50 anything longer. I wouldn't mind buying a 30 for overnight trips since the 50 is a way more than I need.

Something like 20, 40, 60 if you pack light but not ultralight. Add an 80 if you want to winter camp.

Inflatable or self inflating? The thermarest xlite is amazing, packs really small and really comfortable - newer models dont crinkle much either. For self inflating id normally say thermarest too but sea to summit have released some new ones which look very similar in weight warmth and pack size but are thicker

Different guy than OP but is there anything out there that is
>comfy
>at least moderately light
>at least moderately warm
It doesn't get too cold here and I don't mind a little extra weight, so I don't mind compromising a little in these aspects to save some money.

>>1017088
Oops, meant to say these things and also fairly cheap.

i would freeze to death

>>1016421
Pretty sure I'm dead desu.

>>1016421
I start running south and pray my ultramatathon experience can get me far enough to a town or a survivalable climate.


That's all I got desu I don't see the value in attempting to survive and wait for help there.

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>>1016074
That's a mosquito.

Black flies

>>1016074
Black flies. Not dangerous, just the most annoying thing on earth. Like flies you can't swat away.

Fun fact. Any of them that enter indoors will settle on windows when the sun starts to set. You can squish them one by one and they won't even try to run away. That way you wont get woken up by those nasty fuckers.

>>1015575
1. Start with good soil. Don't got it? Make it with good cover crops, rotational grazing, tilling, fertilize with compost or manure. Think smaller animals starting out (chickens, goats, rabbits, ect) Give it a few years. (Or go easy mode with raised beds)
2. Determine how much you want to eat from the land. About 2000 cals for the average person. Find what plants grow well and have the caloric density to make them worth the trouble. Look up staple in your area (grains and tubers are the biggest and I suggest both should one fail.
3. Plant veggies that grow well in your area. This will provide a lot of vitamins for you and bring some life to your plate.

>>1015587
4. Remember those chickens and rabbits you used to help fertilize the soil? Well, they also can providentify sustainable food if you raise them with some forward thinking. Think eggs mainly from chickens and look up meat rabbit breeds. (Buy enough to prevent inbreeding for a few generations)
4. Where can you store food without electricity? Youtube old storage techies for both plants and meat. Dig an old root cellar.
5. Collect rainwater runoff to water your plants.
6. Go fishing and hunting for what you can. Game was a lot more prevalent durine the 19th century though.
I'm trying to do this as well on 6 acres in North Carolina

>>1015595
I can grow about 80 percent of my family (wife, 2 kids under 5 with another in the way) on less than 2 acres but I also have planted an acres worth of fruit trees this year from the arbor day foundation so it could be a few years before I get several more tons of fruit from that. This is just about an hour a days worth of work, and maybe 2 or 3 hours on the weekend. Let your system work for you and don't try getting it perfect, just functional and simple.

>>1015500
Shelf fungi of some kind. They can be very useful depending on the condition inside. Like used as tinder.

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>>1015502
Thanks!
It looked like a fungi but didn't expect it to be so hard.

>the 15th pack thread on the board

>>1015470
a) do your own fucking research, you lazy, spoiled faggot
b) lrn2catalog

>>1015477
>>1015474
Cute, but no one actually fucking goes back into QTDDTOS or old pack posts to update info, or give new insight.
KYS.

>>1014913
see
>>1012616

>>1014913
Trout are a cold water fish. The colder the water the better they taste.

>>1014913
Dude Tilapia Lmao.

>>1014771
Eberlestock Dragonfly.

I've packed out a moose quarter with it, and a whole Cou's whitetail.

>>1014957

>Moose quarter.

Depending on the size of the moose, fuckkk that man.

I killed a huge ancient bull moose in a swamp and even the quarters were unbelievably goddamn heavy.

>>1015529
Grow stronger, I put a quarter in a pack and use a sled to drag another if I can safely do so.

>>1014686

no

>>1014686
The only reason North Korea has them is to prevent an invasion. You can be sure that they won't use them offensively because they know they would use. It's like carrying an unloaded gun. Fallout shelters have been used since the cold war ended.

>>1014693
Then why are they threatening to use them?

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>>1014396
You will never be in such a survival situation, so it does not matter.

no need anon, buy an edible plant book for your area (if there are edible animals there will be edible plants)

>>1014396
>vegan
>survival
Pick one

skinwalker

I wouldn't worry about it. It's probably nothing.

>>1014399
t. skinwalker

>>1014214
Depends how long you are /out/ for and where you are going. I prefer alcohol stoves as I can refuel wwaayy easier on longer trips in more remote places. Plus you can make a penny stove and it'll weight next to nothing.

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anything with a canister is a fucking scam. buy pic related and run it on white gas, kerosene, or gasoline.

>>1014238
This.

MSR running on a litre of petrol (yeah britbong here) lasted me and my daughter an entire week of cooking with quite a bit left over.

Easy to swap between fuels with a nozzle change.

Can get fuel near enough wherever there are other humans in the world.

Gotta say I do like making penny stoves out of old beer cans to amuse fellow travelers who have never seen it done before.

gay

>>1014106
Goddamn you're a loser I didn't think people actually did this

Not OP but what's so wrong with it? You can mutually identify with anyone who happens to have something in common with you that you run into while out.

And if someone doesn't know the reference its just a bear on a picnic patch

casio f-91w

>>1014048

>Tell me about Anon!
>Why does he wear the Casio?

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Casio DW-5600E