The reviews are out and the verdict is in. It's really fucking

Does it only come in that color

>>14341055
because i dont want it

I would rather something else

also i am poor

>>14341064
no

>>14341055
Why is the grill so ugly.

I'm sure it's a godmachine because Ferd is based, but why is the grill so fucking ugly.

>>14341152
just swap an ST bumper

>>14341131
does it have leather seats

>>14341055
Because the day I drove one I walked out of the dealership and paid 15k less for a 6th Gen Camaro.

>>14341184
I hope not

>>14341191
>giving money to GM for a hotwheels car

lmao dude

I'm buying one. Likely in mid 2017 but I'm buying one. When you live in the foothills of the mountains and are surrounded by good roads everywhere then a Civic just won't cut it.

But 350 horsepower and a smart AWD system would make it worthwhile. Unfortunately you have to either go for one with either manual seats and no GPS or you have to spring for $2800 worth of GPS and power seats and heated bullshit. Why can't I just get the GPS and leave the seat motors and heated nonsense at the factory? Looks like I'll have to just settle for an external unit then.

>>14341205
>civic won't cut it
Ass, get good

>>14341205
Just get a clip for your phone and stick it in a vent.

>>14341205
oh no you're gonna have to settle for an external unit. how awful for you

>>14341055
>$50,000 girls car
No thanks

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I can't wait to hose my first RS

>>14341233

I've never owned a car with a built-in GPS and if you spend $40,000 on a car then you want it to have some features you find desirable.

>>14341208
Is someone angry because their left their favorite vape and snapback in a McDonalds parking lot?

>>14341258
>still top mount

tok kep

>>14341280
What is response?
What is 370 awhp?

>>14341295

what is no one cares

>>14341272
yeah the way it drives is irrelevant it's all about the infotainment right?

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>>14341305
But you obviously do

>>14341280
>top mount
>bad

inb4 you psit "muh cog" like a retard

>>14341295
>370awhp

If you're on a highway in the artic circle at speed.

>>14341321

Well when you live around a bunch of curvy backroads that don't really lead anywhere, it's nice to have a GPS to find your way around. Especially one that is part of the car so you don't have to worry about it coming unstuck mid-corner and flying across the dashboard (which did happen in my old MS6)

>>14341192
why not

>>14341334

I don't care about heat soak I've got this washer nozzle that trickles on my intercooler!

>>14341350
Leather seats are heavy and awful

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>>14341055

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>>14341346
>has a great handling hot hatch
>has "a bunch of curvy back roads that don't really lead anywhere"
>is worried about gps

>>14341191
You never drive one you lying fucking faggot

Why do you go on 4chan and lie you little shit

>>14341346

>Can't spend $50 on a RAM mount

Opinion discarded

>>14341399

Well enjoy your straight city roads.

>as if I'd let some prepubescent fuckass dictate what i want and don't want in a car

>>14341055

Why should I spend $36,600+ when I could buy a Mustan GT For less, or a new Camaro SS for $2000 more? Both better performance cars than the Focus.

Further, if I were looking at used options, why would I spend that much on a Focus when I could get a gently used Audi S3, M235i, E90 M3, C63 AMG, CTS-V, etc. etc. etc.

>>14341350
Leather seats are the worst thing I'm the world

>>14341205
>factory GPS systems
what, do you like getting lost and having outdated maps?
why the fuck do people like in car GPS systems?

>>14341475

fake leather master race here.

don't get dirty and shitty like fabric, don't crack and age like leather, wipes clean with a damp rag.

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>>14341346
And you can pay 2 to 4k to get it fixed when it goes out.

Seriously one of the weirdest things when I started watching top gear all those years ago. How much those brits LOVE an in dash nav system.

>>14341499

Genetically, brits have a terrible sense of direction. All that colonization was an accident. They were just trying to get home.

>>14341485
>and your ass slides off the seat mid corner

>>14341529

>He doesn't push himself back into the seat via the dead pedal

I actually haven't had much trouble with that in my mini or my bmw both with "leatherette"

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>people in the comments of reviews complaining it doesn't come with a DCT option

>>14341152
apparently there's lots of reasons for it to be ugly, something about air routing and no lift and stuff

>>14341568

sucks that so many people see manual as an obstacle nowadays.

>>14341456
Nice reading comprehension kid

>>14341472
And drive the new ones you listed; I bought a used GT from the dealership I drove an RS at and it took less than three corners for the guy I go to to realize that not only was I not impressed but I was completely astounded at the sticker on this vehicle.

This board is full of morons, as has been discussed, but you can get a car that very nearly rivals a slightly ass heavy Corvette for around 35k which makes the RS an awkward value proposition at 42 which is without the ludicrous dealer markups you're likely to find.

My gen 6 might be a gun slit window sill spaceship but at least it's not a 40k+ Focus.

>>14341055
How much better than a used stage 2 or 3 Golf R? And the vw may be cheaper!

>>14341477
Why do autists make a big deal about built in GPS?
FYI, you can update built in GPS systems just like you can with an external one.

>>14341055

But OP, I am buying one. Currently selected for scheduling (whatever the fuck that actually means).

No markup, paying MSRP though. Still more than I'd like but its the best price anyone is going to get. Unless you've got dealer connections.

>>14341973

And no, you haven't driven a 2016 RS, they've only let the press drive them so far.

Because it looks like an Evo and a Prius made love.

>>14341258
>At the lights
>RS rolls up next to you
>he revs at you
>vroom psh vroom psh
>you look at him
>Vroom pshtututututu
>like goes green
>you both floor it
>you blow your headgasket
>white smoke pouring out of your iNvidia exhaust
>temperature rising quickly
>engine siezes
>but you beat him to the next light
Another fine victory anon, *tips fedora*

>>14341055
Why would I buy a focus when the Feds are investigating Ford for not issuing a recall for the 2012 and newer Focus models. Why would you want a car where the doors randomly open while turning?

>2016
>Ford not knowing how latches work

>>14341191
obviously lying because the RS's are special order like the GT350, so there are none available for broke plebs with bad taste (6th gen camaro lol) to test drive

Why would I spend 40 thousand plus dealer markup on a Focus? I'd just pony up an extra ten grand and get a slightly used Cayman or M2 at that point.

I don't want to drive a shill car.

I refuse to drive an AE86, GT86, Twingo, Miata, Corvette, GTR, Fiesta or Focus RS.

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>>14342179
>being an ignorant contrarian

>>14342153
>why buy X new when you can buy Y used for more money

Literally every poorfag on /o/ who then later on complains they don't make "good" cars anymore

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>>14342179
>these cars are popular so they must be shit

you're fucking retarded

>>14342179
so you just let people from /o/ dictate your opinions and purchases because they said a car is shit?

what a cuck lol

>>14342220

Poorfags on /o/ aren't dropping fifty thousand on a memecar, though.

It's pretty hard to argue for the RS when true performance cars lie just above its price range.

>>14342238
he's a mindless retard incapable of forming his own opinions.

ignore him.

>>14342246
That said, in 1-2 years when you start seeing these things matriculate to the used market in usable numbers, they will be amazing value for money

>>14342258

If that ever happens. Ford has been pretty explicit in stating that it's going to be produced in limited numbers to create false scarcity, hence the anecdotal reports of dealers tacking on an extra four grand to the sales price. Old Evos and STis still hold so well that they aren't really amazing value anymore, and I could see the same happening to the RS. I'd say you're much more likely to see, say, a 1LE depreciate into being good performance for the money.

>>14342246

If you buy an RS for just the performance you're doing it wrong. Buy a performance sedan/coupe if you just want that.

>>14341529
>his seat doesn't have proper bolsters
leather master race here. get a seat that isn't made for fatties.

>>14342276
I'd argue that if you're dropping forty to fifty grand to be left with a Focus, you're doing it wrong.

The RS occupies the awkward space in the market where it's not fast enough to compete with performance cars, it's not luxurious enough to compete with luxury cars to be a sufficiently comfortable DD for the money, and it's far too expensive to be compared to souped up econoboxes like the WRX and GTI, despite how much Ford would like their product to be compared as such.

Saying that "oh, the M2 is in another performance class, it's unfair to compare the RS to it" is just the height of cowardice. If it costs similar money, comparisons will be made, at least in the mind of the prospective consumer.

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>>14342273
Dealer add-on "market adjustment" is just horseshit to scam money off fuckers to impatient to wait.

Same thing happened with the C7. A friend of mine who is also in the car business is a sales manager at a large GM dealership, and he laughed his ass off telling me how they scared old men into paying 10-15K OVER stick on C7's using the same lines about limited availability, year long wait lists, and limited dealer distribution.

All horseshit, perfectly legal to do, but still horseshit, designed to create a false sense of urgency so that dealerships could capitalize on the margin for these cars in the first 6-12 months of them being on the market.

Ford is doing the same thing around the RS. I've talked to people in management at 2 local ford dealerships about this car, and both gave me the same take, wait and buy a used one, or at the very least wait for a 2017 model, because they are going to take the early adopters to the cleaners

At the end of the day, it's still just a Focus. FiST's and FoST's both became extremely strong value for money buys once they hit the used market, and I see no reason the RS won't take the same path.

>pic related, a 7K 'market adjustment' on a Prius C

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>>14341055

>Last 2 generations were sexy 2-door hatches with character
>New generation is a pigfat 4-door with a disgusting overly-crowded front facia tacked onto a bland base-model body with a slightly larger spoiler

>>14342305

I realize that the dealer markup is horseshit. That doesn't mean that it isn't a thing, because people who want to buy one new are going to have to either find a dealer who isn't implementing one, or sack up and compete with the idiots who got taken in by Ford's marketing shills and pony up.

Production numbers on the RS have been quoted as 2-4000, which is a mere fraction of Fiesta/Focus ST numbers. I don't see these depreciating into being amazing value for money anytime soon, and by that time, they could may well be deprecated to the point of obsolescence.

>>14342307
>Last 2 generations were sexy 2-door hatches with character

they looked like econoboxes with ricey spoilers

>>14342350
4K a year for 6 years is 24,000 units. That is in no way rare.

>>14342153
>>14342246
Is it forty or fifty thousand, make up your mind. Also, from what I read base price is mid thirties.

>>14342377

Except the six years part isn't confirmed, like, at all.

>>14342470

Then go to the Ford website, option it so it resembles a car built from this decade, and then tack on four grand for dealer markup. It'll be nowhere close to the mid thirties, let alone 40. Then think of the other cars you could get for that money.

>>14342641
4k a year isn't rare, period. Certainly not enough to warrant price gouging.

>>14341055
I'm keen as fuck cause my older brother has kids and his wife said he can have one.

Can't wait for the cunt to bring up to my place

Because the A45 is better.

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>>14342919
I would buy the fuck out of this car if we had it in the US

>>14342919
>>14342923
>cuck-CT transmission
They'll never bring a proper manual to the states

>>14342940
>implying americans want manuél cars

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>>14342966
desu most that would buy that car wouldn't. america is still the last holdout for manual sports cars tho. i pray it never changes.

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>>14341055
all the fanboy hothatch britbong circle jerking is so cancerous in this thread
>Focus RS is for shitbongs with their shitty narrow streets
>Focus RS is for shitbongs with marked the fuck up near six figure muscle cars
>Jealous that they cant pay that price for a new ss camaro that is better in every fucking way possible
>mfw britbongs are convincing some fuckheads here that that blue shitbox is better than what they cant even have
>If you drive this car in the states, your either a fucking girl, stupid woman that wanted an econbox but wanted to feel "SPORTY", or just a flat out cuck like the britbongs.
>Britbongs on Suicide watch Focus RS BTFO

>>14341191
>production vehicles havent even reached the US

>>14342923

for $75,000? is it really worth that much?

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well, i did, or i will because i can finance it for 150 a month with a 5k downpayment. FUCK YEAH NIGGER 30&70 torque split and 345 hp 357 lb-ft

>>14342080
im pretty sure this settles that argument lmao

>>14343354

150 a month for ten years?

p much
>>14343379

>>14343314
it's 38k in UK but I wouldn't pay that much for a hatchback

>>14343478
http://www.emercedesbenz.com/autos/mercedes-benz/a-class/mercedes-a45-amg-euro-pricing-announced/

>49,000 euros

>you can buy an evo 9 FQ400 for around less britbong bux
>faster
>mfw

>>14341055
>Why didnt you buy the godmachine of 2016?
No paddle shifters?

>>14341208
>implying a civic can actually handle good.

Ha hahahhahahahahahhahaha

>>14343503

isn't the fq400 one of the worst cars to ever drive on the road?

>slick tires
>severe turbo lag until 5k
>racing seats
>lancer amenities/build qualities

yeah i'd rather have an rs

>>14343632
the lap times say so. but the civic is a fluke

why do you think the ff fags only use top-spec civic lap times

I don't think I could stomach spending that much on a ford

>>14343655

people pay $60,000 on a pick-up that is pretty much the same thing as the base model except for the suspension, interior, and a couple cylinders.

>>14343635
>mfw literally none of those things are bad

you just sound really gay

>>14343665
It's twice the price of a ford transit which is much better suited to any job than a pick-up.
Your getting shafted for muh pick-up taxes maybe.

>>14343684

unless you're using that car to clear rally stages, all of those things are bad.

>>14341529
>bucket seats
>how do they work?

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>>14343697
>not treating every daily drive as a rally stage

what are you doing on a 4wd thread?

>>14342717
If it's worldwide... yes, that's kinda rare.

>>14343692

That's fucking awesome!

I can now sell my half ton truck because a van can pull a 10,000 pound trailer! I can't wait to see the look on everyone's face when they have been missing out on this life hack!

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>spending $40,000 on a hatchback

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Because I bought one of these for 31k Instead. Has RWD and has 80 more hp with GLORIOUS VEEATE

>>14343759
Congratulations. You're a redneck.

It's a pretty cool car, on the Top Gear wall it would probably rank reasonably high. It's basically a rally car for the street, what's to complain about?

>>14343762
Or perhaps someone with some common sense.

>>14343766
Yes. Because buying a muscle car is demonstrable of common sense.

>>14343759
lolcantturn

>>14343775
It's mostly straight roads where I live

>>14343762
You know why I keep my tow mirrors pulled out in my powerstroke? Because I'm always pulling pussy

>>14343759

>i enjoy having a mustang
>i also enjoy cruising for dudes

>>14343745
Can do over 6000lbs. So it can tow over half that for less than half the price. and has more internal carrying capacity and a lower tailgate.

So what do you tow?

>>14343803
I made an error in that. It was actually the smaller van I was looking at, it's 7300lbs at half the price lol.

>>14342100
>Why would you want a car where the doors randomly open while turning?
Why wouldn't you? How else are you going to lean into a turn and lower your center of gravity like a motorcycle rider?

Honestly.. some people's kids..

>Turn key car won't start
>The fuck
>pop hood, everything looks fine
>literally nothing is working I can't get my car started
>Brand new 2016 Ford
>Take it down to a shop
>They can't figure out what's wrong either
>shop owner's wife out of nowhere "the seatbelt isn't plugged in"
>What?
>She repeats herself
>guy plugs the seatbelt in and turns the key
>it starts

Ford. 2016.

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>>14344027

>>14341258
>subaru
>hosing anything other than its ring lands

tuned subarus are less reliable than rotaries

>>14341527
Omfg my sides Anon.

>>14342305

I understand some markup as being part of getting "the first one" in the area or whatever but dealers who go extreme deserve to go out of business. There's a GT350R for sale online now for $175k and that's just dumb.

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>>14342307
exactly, i have one.

>>14341064
It comes in 3 types of grey, black and blue

>>14344267
How does it feel that the price of your mk2 rs is dropping like a brick

>>14342307
>>14344267
Love the 2-door...still own an '03 SVTF 2-door.
MFW marketing knuckleheads think that 4 doors are the only way to sell a hot hatch because of 'convenience'.

Focus RS is meant as an alternative to the other pseudo rally cars (STI, Golf R), NOT to the neckbeards looking for "muh V-8" mustangs and camaros.

>>14344318
Its 3 and 5 door not 2 and 4 door

If ford made a 3 door nody just for the rs, it would have hiked the price up

>>14344337
excuse me fine sir...
I don't count it as a 'door' if I can't ingress or egress from the vehicle thru it.
3rd 'door' is just a hatch.

Ford should have made the entire Focus lineup like they did with the earlier models...sedan, wagon, '3-door' and '5-door'...(although the viability of the wagon is debatable)

Like I said, the marketing ass-hats could screw up a wet dream.

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>>14344389
>I don't count it as a 'door' if I can't ingress or egress

>>14341055
Because I'm poor. Also if I ever go bankrupt over a car it needs to be at least 8 cylinders or rotary.

>5 door
This is how Americans ruin things
Why couldn't they keep it a 3 door?

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>>14341373
Tweaked it a bit.

>>14344389
If you have access to the cabin through a door, it's counted as a door.
Don't be fucking retarded.

>>14344863
I guess they couldnt justify spending the extra money on 2 body designs anymore

the next gen fiesta will be 5 door only, calling it

>>14341055
Looks good, too bad it's a massive butterface. ST front looks so much better

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Because I bought one of these a couple months before the RS was officially announced. Oh well, I love it even if it isn't quite as good.

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My neighbor and me in this pic.

He bought a focus ST for his weekend driver. I spent the same amount of money and bought an e92 M3.

im not sure if the funnier time was when he tried to follow me on a canyon road like he was an actual sports car, or when he hits the breaks and goes 20 til i disappear/lets me right in front of him when we encounter each other on that road now.


the only reason to buy this car is that you have been convinced by society real sports cars are reserved for only the wealthy, and you have to buy some compromise vehicle.

>>14345209
My friend did the same, bought a new Focus then got jealous that I bought a lightly used 370z for less than what he paid.

>>14345209
>E92 M3
>One of the few BMWs where rod bearing replacements are considered "preventive maintenance"


No thanks

>>14343207
Show me where ford touched you
;)

>>14345233
the biggest WTF of the whole thing is he has two other cars. a focus sedan from like 2008 and his wife has her own regular commuter car. this is his weekend car, and he bought a 5 door hatchback thats supposed to be a sporty ALL AROUND car.
thats just a whole nother level of buying into "you cant afford nice things" marketing buy american car manufacturers. buying a 3RD ECONOBOX for your WEEKEND CANYON RUN CAR.

>>14345240
so on the forums they have a list of every one thats ever been reported broken from a rod bearing failure on the internet and we're up to about 150 now, maybe 200.

according to the M registry, BMW produced 9,674 cars. so its a less than 1% issue.

preventative maintenance? its hardly even a confirmed issue. its an urban legend at best.

>>14345250
Because normies are retarded, have some compulsive need to buy new cars just because they're new and think hatchbacks are sports car because some marketer slapped "sporty" on it. Also that guy probably got cucked by his wife out of an actual sports car too.

I mean even buying new for around what an ST costs you could still have a Toybaru or Miata

>>14345264
200/9674 ~ 2%

>>14343759
>Ameriburger Rustang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67R8L5vVbCE

>>14345354
Haha dude epic xd

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why do you fags keep posting that shitty old pic pic of the RS

this is what it actually looks like in person

>>14345396
>its same

>>14345396
>absolutely disgusting

>>14345396
fucking front mount hose already drilled

>>14345396
It'd look decent in all-black

>>14343846
>7,300 pounds
>still not 10,000

Are you always this retarded? Obviously it's a bargain, but if you need to pull a large trailer you need a fucking truck.

>>14344318
>neckbeards drive muscle cars

Keep telling yourself that.

>>14345943
What do you tow on a weekly basis that's over 7300lbs?

>>14345959
he means rednecks

>>14341055
>>14341055
Because I have a escort mk2 and a escort cosworth...
and it has 4 doors... if it was a 2 door I might be tempted... hoping for the fiesta RS to make everything right..