The reviews are out and the verdict is in. It's really fucking good. Why didnt you buy the godmachine of 2016?
I'm buying one. Likely in mid 2017 but I'm buying one. When you live in the foothills of the mountains and are surrounded by good roads everywhere then a Civic just won't cut it.
But 350 horsepower and a smart AWD system would make it worthwhile. Unfortunately you have to either go for one with either manual seats and no GPS or you have to spring for $2800 worth of GPS and power seats and heated bullshit. Why can't I just get the GPS and leave the seat motors and heated nonsense at the factory? Looks like I'll have to just settle for an external unit then.
Well when you live around a bunch of curvy backroads that don't really lead anywhere, it's nice to have a GPS to find your way around. Especially one that is part of the car so you don't have to worry about it coming unstuck mid-corner and flying across the dashboard (which did happen in my old MS6)
>has a great handling hot hatch
>has "a bunch of curvy back roads that don't really lead anywhere"
>is worried about gps
Why should I spend $36,600+ when I could buy a Mustan GT For less, or a new Camaro SS for $2000 more? Both better performance cars than the Focus.
Further, if I were looking at used options, why would I spend that much on a Focus when I could get a gently used Audi S3, M235i, E90 M3, C63 AMG, CTS-V, etc. etc. etc.
And you can pay 2 to 4k to get it fixed when it goes out.
Seriously one of the weirdest things when I started watching top gear all those years ago. How much those brits LOVE an in dash nav system.
>people in the comments of reviews complaining it doesn't come with a DCT option
And drive the new ones you listed; I bought a used GT from the dealership I drove an RS at and it took less than three corners for the guy I go to to realize that not only was I not impressed but I was completely astounded at the sticker on this vehicle.
This board is full of morons, as has been discussed, but you can get a car that very nearly rivals a slightly ass heavy Corvette for around 35k which makes the RS an awkward value proposition at 42 which is without the ludicrous dealer markups you're likely to find.
My gen 6 might be a gun slit window sill spaceship but at least it's not a 40k+ Focus.
But OP, I am buying one. Currently selected for scheduling (whatever the fuck that actually means).
No markup, paying MSRP though. Still more than I'd like but its the best price anyone is going to get. Unless you've got dealer connections.
And no, you haven't driven a 2016 RS, they've only let the press drive them so far.
>At the lights
>RS rolls up next to you
>he revs at you
>vroom psh vroom psh
>you look at him
>like goes green
>you both floor it
>you blow your headgasket
>white smoke pouring out of your iNvidia exhaust
>temperature rising quickly
>but you beat him to the next light
Another fine victory anon, *tips fedora*
Why would I buy a focus when the Feds are investigating Ford for not issuing a recall for the 2012 and newer Focus models. Why would you want a car where the doors randomly open while turning?
>Ford not knowing how latches work
>these cars are popular so they must be shit
you're fucking retarded
If that ever happens. Ford has been pretty explicit in stating that it's going to be produced in limited numbers to create false scarcity, hence the anecdotal reports of dealers tacking on an extra four grand to the sales price. Old Evos and STis still hold so well that they aren't really amazing value anymore, and I could see the same happening to the RS. I'd say you're much more likely to see, say, a 1LE depreciate into being good performance for the money.
I'd argue that if you're dropping forty to fifty grand to be left with a Focus, you're doing it wrong.
The RS occupies the awkward space in the market where it's not fast enough to compete with performance cars, it's not luxurious enough to compete with luxury cars to be a sufficiently comfortable DD for the money, and it's far too expensive to be compared to souped up econoboxes like the WRX and GTI, despite how much Ford would like their product to be compared as such.
Saying that "oh, the M2 is in another performance class, it's unfair to compare the RS to it" is just the height of cowardice. If it costs similar money, comparisons will be made, at least in the mind of the prospective consumer.
Dealer add-on "market adjustment" is just horseshit to scam money off fuckers to impatient to wait.
Same thing happened with the C7. A friend of mine who is also in the car business is a sales manager at a large GM dealership, and he laughed his ass off telling me how they scared old men into paying 10-15K OVER stick on C7's using the same lines about limited availability, year long wait lists, and limited dealer distribution.
All horseshit, perfectly legal to do, but still horseshit, designed to create a false sense of urgency so that dealerships could capitalize on the margin for these cars in the first 6-12 months of them being on the market.
Ford is doing the same thing around the RS. I've talked to people in management at 2 local ford dealerships about this car, and both gave me the same take, wait and buy a used one, or at the very least wait for a 2017 model, because they are going to take the early adopters to the cleaners
At the end of the day, it's still just a Focus. FiST's and FoST's both became extremely strong value for money buys once they hit the used market, and I see no reason the RS won't take the same path.
>pic related, a 7K 'market adjustment' on a Prius C
>Last 2 generations were sexy 2-door hatches with character
>New generation is a pigfat 4-door with a disgusting overly-crowded front facia tacked onto a bland base-model body with a slightly larger spoiler
I realize that the dealer markup is horseshit. That doesn't mean that it isn't a thing, because people who want to buy one new are going to have to either find a dealer who isn't implementing one, or sack up and compete with the idiots who got taken in by Ford's marketing shills and pony up.
Production numbers on the RS have been quoted as 2-4000, which is a mere fraction of Fiesta/Focus ST numbers. I don't see these depreciating into being amazing value for money anytime soon, and by that time, they could may well be deprecated to the point of obsolescence.
Then go to the Ford website, option it so it resembles a car built from this decade, and then tack on four grand for dealer markup. It'll be nowhere close to the mid thirties, let alone 40. Then think of the other cars you could get for that money.
I would buy the fuck out of this car if we had it in the US
desu most that would buy that car wouldn't. america is still the last holdout for manual sports cars tho. i pray it never changes.
all the fanboy hothatch britbong circle jerking is so cancerous in this thread
>Focus RS is for shitbongs with their shitty narrow streets
>Focus RS is for shitbongs with marked the fuck up near six figure muscle cars
>Jealous that they cant pay that price for a new ss camaro that is better in every fucking way possible
>mfw britbongs are convincing some fuckheads here that that blue shitbox is better than what they cant even have
>If you drive this car in the states, your either a fucking girl, stupid woman that wanted an econbox but wanted to feel "SPORTY", or just a flat out cuck like the britbongs.
>Britbongs on Suicide watch Focus RS BTFO
well, i did, or i will because i can finance it for 150 a month with a 5k downpayment. FUCK YEAH NIGGER 30&70 torque split and 345 hp 357 lb-ft
>not treating every daily drive as a rally stage
what are you doing on a 4wd thread?
That's fucking awesome!
I can now sell my half ton truck because a van can pull a 10,000 pound trailer! I can't wait to see the look on everyone's face when they have been missing out on this life hack!
Because I bought one of these for 31k Instead. Has RWD and has 80 more hp with GLORIOUS VEEATE
>Why would you want a car where the doors randomly open while turning?
Why wouldn't you? How else are you going to lean into a turn and lower your center of gravity like a motorcycle rider?
Honestly.. some people's kids..
>Turn key car won't start
>pop hood, everything looks fine
>literally nothing is working I can't get my car started
>Brand new 2016 Ford
>Take it down to a shop
>They can't figure out what's wrong either
>shop owner's wife out of nowhere "the seatbelt isn't plugged in"
>She repeats herself
>guy plugs the seatbelt in and turns the key
I understand some markup as being part of getting "the first one" in the area or whatever but dealers who go extreme deserve to go out of business. There's a GT350R for sale online now for $175k and that's just dumb.
exactly, i have one.
Love the 2-door...still own an '03 SVTF 2-door.
MFW marketing knuckleheads think that 4 doors are the only way to sell a hot hatch because of 'convenience'.
Focus RS is meant as an alternative to the other pseudo rally cars (STI, Golf R), NOT to the neckbeards looking for "muh V-8" mustangs and camaros.
excuse me fine sir...
I don't count it as a 'door' if I can't ingress or egress from the vehicle thru it.
3rd 'door' is just a hatch.
Ford should have made the entire Focus lineup like they did with the earlier models...sedan, wagon, '3-door' and '5-door'...(although the viability of the wagon is debatable)
Like I said, the marketing ass-hats could screw up a wet dream.
>I don't count it as a 'door' if I can't ingress or egress
Because I bought one of these a couple months before the RS was officially announced. Oh well, I love it even if it isn't quite as good.
My neighbor and me in this pic.
He bought a focus ST for his weekend driver. I spent the same amount of money and bought an e92 M3.
im not sure if the funnier time was when he tried to follow me on a canyon road like he was an actual sports car, or when he hits the breaks and goes 20 til i disappear/lets me right in front of him when we encounter each other on that road now.
the only reason to buy this car is that you have been convinced by society real sports cars are reserved for only the wealthy, and you have to buy some compromise vehicle.
the biggest WTF of the whole thing is he has two other cars. a focus sedan from like 2008 and his wife has her own regular commuter car. this is his weekend car, and he bought a 5 door hatchback thats supposed to be a sporty ALL AROUND car.
thats just a whole nother level of buying into "you cant afford nice things" marketing buy american car manufacturers. buying a 3RD ECONOBOX for your WEEKEND CANYON RUN CAR.
so on the forums they have a list of every one thats ever been reported broken from a rod bearing failure on the internet and we're up to about 150 now, maybe 200.
according to the M registry, BMW produced 9,674 cars. so its a less than 1% issue.
preventative maintenance? its hardly even a confirmed issue. its an urban legend at best.
Because normies are retarded, have some compulsive need to buy new cars just because they're new and think hatchbacks are sports car because some marketer slapped "sporty" on it. Also that guy probably got cucked by his wife out of an actual sports car too.
I mean even buying new for around what an ST costs you could still have a Toybaru or Miata
why do you fags keep posting that shitty old pic pic of the RS
this is what it actually looks like in person