>FCA is discontinuing the Dart and 200C.
>Snek is kill
>The Charger and Challenger are old as fuck.
They're just gonna limp along by trying to
HELLCAT ALL THE THINGS!!!11ONE!!
They're a volume manufacturer that can't make good affordable/normal cars. They're just being kept alive on life support via their halo cars.
Rumor has it Fiat is considering pulling out of the partnership.
I'm sure they'd get bailed again, the concept of only 2 large car companies in America would be too hard for shareholders in the States to grasp.
post yfw the snek comes back and it's auto
>FCA is discontinuing the Dart and 200C.
Same happened to the Bravo/Delta.
There's a new platform, based on the new Tipo. That's why they're discontinuing it. The Giulietta on the other is still produced, maybe because the new one won't be based on the Tipo platform.
>makes fastest production car in the world
>no one gives a shit
Dodge needs to learn from this. Dodge will never gain notoriety for making something great. They need to make something cheap and fun to sell in big numbers and make a name for themselves, get people talking about Dodge in a good manner. I don't want to say like a Miata, something a little bigger that can handle their V8s
The next gen Wrangler will save us all.
Continue with your damage control
Jeep has turned into a soccer mom mall crawler brand, something that is already flooded with much better vehicles.
Even if they are they retail for over $30 grand and only a small amount will off road them to those capacities off the dealer lot.
It's the fastest at 13 tracks. And to go back to >>14331727
>why would anyone care about some time attack special setting lap times anyway
That's exactly what Dodge has to learn from. They can make a car that breaks every single record and no one will care, no one can afford these vehicles, it's a popularity contest for teenagers. Dodge needs an affordable, likable car with some muscle that Dodge is known for. They should have made a real pony car ages ago.
How's it feel to be wrong, Europoor?
S E C O N D
A Fuggen' HYPERCAR.
Now piss off and be poor in cu ckland.
Vipers have been breaking 200mph since the 90's
The Barracuda was the bigger car in the 70's. The name doesn't matter, they need a new platform to make a car on instead of the land whale LX and the fwd shitbox platforms Fiat has been providing.
I'm not the guy who said its the fastest production car
It's not by any means
It is however probably the fastest track car you can buy
Reason why it doesn't go faster than 186mph is because muh downforce
I guess it's been considered. I hope they won't
>makes fastest production car in the world
>no one gives a shit
99.9% of their market base can't afford it, why would they care.
>Dodge will never gain notoriety for making something great
no, they just need to make something great that people can afford, that doesn't mean it has to be the fastest in the world though. mazda is smart making the miata which is a cheap fun car, and honda with their civic si/type R, subaru with the WRX, volkswagon and the GTI, ford and all their small cars that are getting performance versions, chevy V6 camaro?/Volt? (do they really have a lot of in demand small/cheap cars?)
anyway manufacturers need to make small cars that people want to buy, it also helps to have a gimmick to bring people to your brand like subaru with AWD. dodge doesn't really have a gimmick except for making high performance cars that most people looking for a dodge aren't going to buy.
I guess this is what they're thinking
But the problem will be it will be priced like the Mustang or Camaro which have been in the game far longer and probably perform better. It would have to be noticeably cheaper to have any relevance.
If you're impressed by top speed you buy the normal version, if track times you buy the track version. And yes, you can buy two of these for the price of one of its competitors. But again none of this matters because hardly anyone buys these.
>dodge still wants to sell to boomers, but theyre all dying
true that, they're going to have to make the shift eventually though.
on a side note, dodge is in one of the better positions to make retro looking sports cars, imagine if they made something like a challenger that was the size of this nissan concept, I'm sure it'd steal the hearts of many.
It was a rebadged Mercedes.
>Dodge could have had the Miata crowd but Mercedes said no
Just imagine if Dodge made a light weight platform and then slapped a big V8 option in it, they could market it as the cheapest v8 in the industry/ most fuel efficient v8 (simply due to light weight)
The condensed wisdom of the blogosphere is that Chrysler is indeed a dead brand walking but not for the immediately obvious reasons.
It seems that Ram trucks and Jeep have been the cash cow keeping FCA awash with a huge drag on the whole thing being Fiat and the emphasis on getting Alfa launched. This leaves nothing for future product development and the word is they've got nothing for beyond 2018. That means that if they started today with a moon-shot equivalent crash program it'd be 2021 before new product was available and with the public already tired of current products this is a death knell. This is largely why Sergio has been desperate for a partnership.
This is ridiculous. The Hemi architecture has been out since 2003, the LX platform since 2006, Journey is on the chassis from the Avenger, everything else is a rebadge from other companies. How have they not have a single thing to come out with? Chrysler hasn't made anything on their own for like 2 decades.
NO ONE? Are you kidding me? I don't think even 1/4 tards never reach the top speed of their vehicles in their races. No one gives a fuck about top speed beyond a certain point. For a long time the Ceylon was the fastest production car but I'd never dream of owning one because of how hideous it is. It also never impressed me.
how would you all cut fat from dodge/chrysler?
>keep jeep, except for the crummy crossovers that never sell
>cut/redesign all dodge/chrysler models except the caravan since they sell
Christ alive, was their plan to appeal to old cucks going through a midlife crisis or something?
didnt see that it was from 2002,
that makes a bit more since I guess. Still though, if 2002 me saw this I would probably still think that they dressed this guy to be "hip" to the point of going way overboard. So cool it's uncool dawg.
Chrysler is fine. They're killing the 200/dart because crossovers are dominating the market. They're making a new Journey, Compass, and Caliber that will all likely fit various versions of that field. The Durango is winning awards like crazy, just like the Cherokee and various iterations of the Ram. Volume sales for those brands are through the Goddann ceiling and into the stratosphere.
Smart money is on Trucks, SUVS and crossovers right now. Chrysler is smart to jump on that - especially since they're industry leaders with Jeep. They'll probably get back into rebranding Mazdas or Mitsubishi to keep in the small car segment, but the investment there will be in tech for the inevitable fuel cost inflation.
The Challenger and Charger are still due for major overhauls by 2020, probably to include a turbo 4 and a new Hemi. People seem to forget that the Charger is still making money hand over fist because it's the only reasonable V8 sedan on the market. Fleet sales are avsolutely retarded for a car that is old as it is. The Challenger has remained incredibly successful and sales have only improved with the updating.
You have to spend money to make money. Fiat isn't going to drop Chrysler because it's the only thing making them money.
The only problem is that Fiat doesn't really understand the US market, and doesn't know what Dodge and Chrysler are supposed to do. Is Chrysler the luxury brand or the everyman's brand? Is Dodge the performance brand or the everyman's brand? SRT, wtf?
And how could they possibly believe that capturing the US market under their own name could work with their low quality vehicles? The best way to put yourself into a market is by making solid, quality vehicles like the Japanese did in the 1970s. Fiat, well, they're unreliable.
Cheap gimmicky (and if it's a 500, overpriced) cars have been the only cars Fiat have been able to produce and sell for a long time.
Their reliability record kills them in every segment up.
Fiat was a poor match for Chrysler. Daimler-Benz would have been a much better match, but that bombed.
Which will fuck them up sooner or later when gas prices inevitably go sky-high again. They're highly dependent on oil prices.
At least they've got multiple platforms approved for usage in the US, unlike GM back in 2007.
>mfw my dad works for Chrysler and I read this
isn't fiat making a miata based car? what if they got dodge involved, stuck a challenger grill on it, gave it a V8 and called it a day (I'd say make it a hard top as well, but that'd be asking too much)
This is fucking Daimler all over again. 85% of FCA profits in 2015 came from Chrysler, yet they are running them right into the ground. Using profits and cash on hand to dump money into fucking shit Fiat's and Alfa's that don't sell anywhere.
You forgot Hellcatting it.
Because that's the only thing Dodge has been capable of for the last couple of years.
A lot of companies seem to hate on their profit machine; trying everything to destroy it.
Italian chauvinism needs to be ripped out of FCA. FCA should do what PSA and Renault-Nissan did; appoint a CEO that isn't from either one of the countries.
Yup, but keeping the straight axles.
Going with a notorque gas motor, fuel economy gears, and massive electric torque for acceleration and crawling might be a strategy worth trying.
>Going with a notorque gas motor, fuel economy gears, and massive electric torque for acceleration and crawling might be a strategy worth trying.
that might work, but whatever they do it MUST be better than what came before it, otherwise people just wont buy in.
It's The Wrangler. If Sergio fucks that one up, he's doomed the whole company.
It's the vehicle that provides credibility to half their profit center. He'll be lynched if he lunches it.
If course it'll probably suck because he's been pouring all the Jeepbucks into Italian small car development, but the stakes are as high as possible.
>mfw my dad works for fca too and i find it hilarious he may be losing his job considering he is fca's biggest cuck
>FIX IT AGAIN TONY will save them.
Where I live only niggers drive Dodges, they love the Chargers and Challengers they get on dubious lease terms.
Old White people buy the Darts and slap a big 'ol 3 on the side. I've only seen a few of these though so I'm not surprised it's dead now. I have no idea who the fuck bought the 200s, evidently nobody.
Dodge only has like 5 cars left, I wish they'd just import gray market jap cars again.