>The car doesn't start unless you have your seatbelt plugged in
I wish I were making this up.
>have 1997 F150
>never wear seatbelt
>little light eventually stops coming on
It accepted it, and it was nice
I loved that truck. It was the first year for the jellybean so it had the 4.6L in it and it was gutless, but it never gave me any problems and I beat on it like a 18 year old does. I still regret trading it in.
But we have ice roads between islands during winter on which it's prohibited to wear a seatbelt to get out as fast as possible in case of an emergency...
>gun toting lunatic chasing you (assuming this is america)
>get in car
>infotainment ipad start flashing
>seatbelt not fastened - car ignition locked out for 30 seconds
>>gun toting lunatic chasing you (assuming this is america)
>shoot him dead with your own gun because this is america
>instant self defence declaration because he was armed
>immune from any civil and criminal charges relating to the event
Literally not a single extra component. It's just extra software in a control module (that already existed) somewhere in the car that prevents your engine from cranking if the belt switch (that already existed) is open.
Are you that lazy that you have to make up reliability excuses so you don't have to wear your seatbelt?
Because if you want to have muh freedum to not wear belts, you can just leave it plugged behind your back without ever unplugging it and the car won't know better.
You American'ts and your aversion to seatbelts. It's all about the token personal freedom with you idiots.
I wear my seatbelt because its a fucking good idea, not because the law says I have to (although it does say I have to).
Having said that, a seatbelt interlock sounds really fucking annoying and I would not buy a car with one. I Cant take care of my own belt, thanks. Plus I can see numerous situations where it would be prohibitive to practical operation of the vehicle.
starting the car without the your seat belt buckled will fail your licence
or if you already have a licence will get you a fine and demerit
>welcome to hell
>buy police car
>seatbelt shit disabled
>warning chimes disabled
Feels good man
There are more places on Earth than America and Europe, champ.
And guess how common getting shanked with a screwdriver is in Australia (or Europe for that matter)? Less common than gun crime in your apparently common sense country.
Yes good point. My thing is that I have a long driveway with a gate. So I start car, drive to street, stop, get out and lock gate, get back in, THEN seatbelt and drive off.
Having to start and stop the engine and take my seatbelt on and off every time I have to get in/out would drive me mental
>Less common than gun crime in your apparently common sense country.
>this is what people actually believe
The UK has half the total incidents of violent crime that the US does while having a 1/6 the population. I'd say it's probably pretty fucking common. Even if you cut the number in half due to a different definition, that's still an incredibly larger amount of violent crime. And you completely glossed over the fact you have to just take your shanking like a man in almost every country outside the US or you go to jail.
>Not only is citation needed,
Normally I'd tell you to fuck off and find it yourself so you stop being a mindless drone but you'll just ignore me and plug your ears if I don't.
>but also, are you comparing UK's violent crime to US's mass shootings?
Is that what I fucking said you illiterate nigger?
>She runs out of the desolate cabin to her ford. >Pushes the brake pedal and then the start button.
>The killer is coming closer, holding the still bloody butcher's knife in his right hand, and Amy's severed head by the hair in his left hand.
>Car won't start
>Pushes start button again.
>Only hears annoying warning noise
>Fug... the seatbelt
>Killer breaks window, slits throat
Thank you ford
Actually did the math so it's 1/5 the population, but that's still a significant difference.
>Is that what I fucking said you illiterate nigger?
Do you not know what you're saying? Are you completely glossing over that "violent crime" as an ambiguous term that either includes mass shootings or generic physical assault?
Are you intentionally picking a statistic that glosses over the growing firearm problem in the US?
Keep up the grade school tier insults though.
>the growing firearm problem in the US?
Firearm homicides are down over ten percent from just 6 years ago. Following the trend, there's less than 8000 a year in the entire US. Stop drinking the coolaid.
>I am literally incapable of appreciating humor, and the use of imaginative scenarios to prove a point makes me angry
I'm being 100% serious when I say that you may be on the autism spectrum, my refugee-bait friend.
This is just another thing to malfunction and leave you stranded.
I had a friend who's car seatbelt sensors were broken and so for the first 10 minutes of driving, the "Seatbelt not clipped in" alarm would blast at full volume. It was infuriating and probably more dangerous than not wearing a seatbelt.
>Growing Firearm problem in the U.S.
You realize that firearm related homicides have been on the decline for years, right?
Do you enjoy being a sheep to the hyperbole that is the media everytime they blow a shooting out of proportion? Are you the type of person who thinks airlines are unsafe because the news blows it out of proportion every time one crashes? Despite the fact that they are statistically the safest form of travel. It's the same with guns.
>Start the car to warm up the engine and the heater
>Go back inside while waiting for it to warm up
So you can't do this anymore?
How is a 4.6L gutless? How do americans manage this? Wheres the fuel going dude? I dont get it
Would it not start if you just pull the belt over and plug it in and then turn the key? Or would it have to detect weight on the seat like with passenger airbags on newer cars?
>not deleting all useless features like seatbelt alarms as soon as you buy your car
There's probably an easy way around this, and it's probably something ford did to get a higher safety rating so their tax breaks and insurance costs and significantly lower
>welcome to how to run a car company 101
Remote starts are going to have to bypass this.
The DIS box, engine management system, hell the main harness. Hopefully it isn't spidered into all that.
Should operate the same as the key. Only necessary when you hit the brake. I'm sure the factory systems will work fine, but they might block aftermarket.
>Buddy has one of those newer Ram trucks
>driving in the pastures going 5 mph
>don't have my seatbelt on
>it keep dinging no matter what until you plug your seatbelt in
Fuck that shit.
I'm on private land, going 5 mph. I don't want to wear my goddamn seat belt for once.
It blows my mind that there are people who are in favor of this stupid bullshit. If I want to start my truck and head inside real quick, I shouldn't have to buckle the seatbelt to do so. I already have to press the button to bypass depressing the clutch (which I think is fantastic) and I don't need another step
Literally just a stupid fucking nanny feature that encourages people to lack awareness. Why bother to remember to buckle up when you can instead be forced to if you want to drive?
I can't help but imagine those who support this are the same people who feel that it should be a law to have your seatbelt on.
>I wear my seatbelt because its a fucking good idea, not because the law says I have to (although it does say I have to).
Some of the only reasonable words in this thread, I'm the same way. It amazes me that anyone is otherwise.
>All manufacturers should do this.
No. No manufacturers should do this. It's more pussy bullshit added to the car. I don't even care if it adds nothing but programming to the ECU. I'm tired of all these babying features being added to new cars.
And then you have to remove it to put on your seatbelt? Awful plan.
>I'm on private land, going 5 mph. I don't want to wear my goddamn seat belt for once.
Agree entirely. If I have to move my truck into a different spot in the driveway or pull it into the garage, I shouldn't need to buckle my seatbelt.
i would assume it senses your weight on the seat somehow
also i don't how this is going to work when remote parking is a thing now
That seems like it would take more effort than just parking the fucking car.
>"Fuck, finally found a parking space at Walmart"
>"Let me just step out of my car and spend six hours fucking with my remote."
If anything should be forced (and the word 'forced' isn't a favorite of mine), it would be things that affect the safety of OTHER people, not the person driving. If I want to stupidly drive without a seatbelt, that should be my choice.
We have laws to say you HAVE to wear your seatbelt, and I see lighted road signs at least once a month saying CLICK IT OR TICKET but never do I ever see anything about tires and brakes. Those things affect the safety of not only the driver, but everyone else as well. We should stop focusing on trivialities and start focusing on the things that really matter. Other than me thinking they're an idiot, it doesn't ahve any effect on me if another driver is without seatbelt. But when I see bald ass tires, that shit it scary. And I have a baseless assumption that the people who are letting their tires get dangerously worn also let their brakes become insufficient.
Keep these handy to shut up anti gun yuurotears
>and then you have to remove it to put on your seatbelt? Awful plan
Correct me if I'm wrong based Vinbro, but I thought this whole thing was an alternative to wearing a seatbelt.
>not that it.matters to me personally, I don't think wearing a seat belt is an inconvenience.
I had a Mazda MX-3 with the tiny v-6 and the automatic seat belt that ran up the side of the door and would strangle your ass. Thought it breaking was great until it would not pass inspection. Could only buy the whole unit and those parts were around $900.00.
jelly bean f150s unite
>but its a 5 speed
>seat belts save lives
When will this meme end?
According to the UK geographer John Adams, widespread wearing of seatbelts hasn't saved nearly the number of lives anticipated. While highly effective in the event of a crash, they apparently increase the chance of a crash to begin with ('risk compensation'). Also, the general use of seatbelts has apparently caused the deaths of more pedestrians and cyclists.
Even mainstream authors (e.g. Allport et. al. in *Significance*, June 2008) put the annual number of car occupants' lives saved in the UK at 352, rather than the 2000 or so predicted. And this has come at the expense of about 190 additional deaths of people outside cars.
You can buy them off ebay for $1. Much more elegant and probably takes less time than going to junkyard.
Because everyone who rides a motorcycle understands that they could die at any moment and they might not see it coming. People in cars feel safe, get into a debilitating crash and then blame the automaker because their cars aren't safe enough to protect the consumers from their own retardation. Fucking nanny state bullshit, remove the seatbelt warnings and other safety features like automatic braking and then just let the retards kill themselves off
This is bullshit it's a legal requirement to use a seatbelt in the UK anyone who doesn't is risking prosecution, therefore it makes sense that these individuals are more likely to take risks in other aspects of driving.
>Always get in car
>put key in
>turn car on
>then fasten seatbelt
I'm torn about this.
On one hand, I hate nanny state shit, but on the other, I hate the idea of my taxes paying for the medical care of all the dumb fucks who put themselves in the hospital by not wearing seatbelts.
Using a hand held device at all while in control of a moving vehicle is illegal in my entire country.
Doesn't stop people doing it though, we need to have mandatory cell jammers in cars along with all the autodrive shit
If I'm expected to share the road with these wankers, I expect them to be forced to pay attention.
I'd rather have a populace capable of driving and no nanny state horseshit, but since I can't have that, it has to be the other way around
>I thought this whole thing was an alternative to wearing a seatbelt
Maybe. That option didn't come to mind, since I always wear mine and so does anyone else in my truck.
It seems like bullshit to me. But I wouldn't doubt it if's in discussion at more manufacturers.
>hasn't saved nearly the number of lives anticipated
So it still saves lives.
>highly effective in the event of a crash
So it serves its purpose exactly.
>apparently increases the chance of a crash to begin with
Correlation vs causation. The issue is not with seatbelts but with irresponsible drivers. This is nothing new. The large majority of accidents are.
>has apparently caused the deaths of [190 non-drivers]
Correlation vs causation. Same reason as above. But this one, I doubt anyway. I'd love to see how seatbelts have had any effect on this. More than likely, it's due to the increased number of people, and thus drivers/cyclists/pedestrians, on the road.
This is true. But to that I say 2 things. One, learn responsibility. If you're driving, you need to understand the risks involved and prepare yourself for them. Two, it still affects people less than a poorly maintained vehicle. That will affect people both inside and outside your vehicle.
I can't really argue with you there. So I'd be in favor of a law that says if a crash gives you an injury that would otherwise have been avoided by wearing a seatbelt, you cannot get government funded assistance for said injuries. Of course, then you'd have people complaining about what is considered an injury that is vs is not avoidable with a seatbelt.
How are all of you this stupid? Go online and buy one of those seat belt extenders that Walmart-Americans need. Get the shortest one they have. Put it into the seat belt buckle, then epoxy it into place.
Congratufuckinglations, you now can still use your seatbelt like normal but the overprotective nannystate bullshit is permanently bypassed.
So how do I get the taxpayers to pay for my medical care? Because I can't afford insurance even through Obongocare, and when I go to the doctor's office the bills get sent to me. Not "The taxpayers of X state", me. And then I pay my bills.
Dude, if you can hook me up so I can get the taxpayers to pay my medical stuff for me, that'd be fuckin' awesome.