So what does /o/ think about the Elio?
>$6,800 brand new
>american made and manufactured
>made for lonely neckbeards who browse 4chan and don't have any friends to take on a ride
It's ugly and no Miata, sure, but so far it seems like the true car of the future. I can already feel Tesla making an electric copy of it any time soon.
i REALLY want this to NOT be vaporware because it seems like a goldmine for mods, some good rubber and stiff springs and a hyabusa swap would do wonders because the chassis weighs basically nothing, it'd be tossable and quick as fuck. Optional factory manual too.
hell forget the hyabusa, anything with 120+hp would make this thing into a rocket ship
they advertise a PROJECTED five star crash rating.
however they're using the top of the line industry crash simulation software, which is actually like 90% accurate now which is deeply impressive in all honesty.
it they do all their crash testing in a computer during development, then do actual physical crash tests with like four or five real models they could get pretty close to that five star rating.
but really, four star is fine for all but the absolute worst accidents
I think there are shitloads of shills, considering that many major independent YouTube stars got paid to promote it.
Yes it seems economical, but getting a shitbox or motorcycle would be a better option.
>haven't released a single car
>geo metro engine
>expecting 6800$ "car" to not be the epitomy of shitboxes
anyone that sunk money into their pre-production shilling campaign is an idiot.
I could get a brand new Yamaha FZ-07 with that kind of money. Gas mileage is still really high except it's way more maneuverable, faster, and less faggy looking.
Don't you need a motorcycle license to drive this thing? I'm pretty sure it's classified as a motorcycle despite being a blatant three-wheel "cart". I'd call it a superlight but I'm not sure how much this thing weighs
Shame, because it looks alright. I'd buy and tune one
I want it to happen so I can pick one up dirt cheap secondhand months after they come out from someone that suddenly needs something practical.
Assuming it isn't vaporwear...which it is
-The 5 star crash test safety is all "projected".
-They will never be able to sell it at 6800 and turn a profit, so it will never actually make to market at a price that low. If it does, bankruptcy won't be far behind
-They won't actually get 84 mpg, the in house engine that they keep saying will make it possible has still yet to seriously materialize
-Who the fuck will they sell them too in enough volume to turn a profit
The entire venture is implausible on it's face, and this isn't something like Musk at Tesla, where he has money to burn to keep things on track
I think it's neat. Gas is cheap right now but it won't be forever. This little guy could make a great second car for commuting or a nice city car.
unfortunately, it probably won't ever happen. they're way behind schedule and don't have the funding. i just don't think they'll ever make them.
They are just now dyno testing the reworked Metro engine that's suppose to get to the magic number. It's not 'all new from the ground up' as they promised in the beginning. They just tweaked the old Metro 3 cyl with more modern tech, and again, the 84 MPG is all theoretical
Also, just a few figures
Mercedes averaged about 11,000 Smart cars sold in the US from 08-2015 (although some years saw as little as 5K units)
Let's say Elio does that in the first year. 11,000 units at 6800 a unit
That's 74.8 Million in sales, when the CEO himself says that the break even point would have to be 200 Million. So that's over 120 Million in toxic debt in the first fiscal year
And this from a company that needed 25 Million in crowd sourcing to develop 25 prototype city cars. Thats a fucking million dollars a prototype. For a 3 wheel, 3 cylinder city car.
The Elio city car is supposed to do 84 MPG and has an 8 gallon tank, but that's again all predicted
Right now, with the regular Geo Metro engine, they have confirmed 65, so let's do that math.
65mpg x 8 gallon tank = 520 miles of range
A 7 grand used Ford Fiesta can do about 500 on a single tank, will be safer, more practical, and have better options, if that's your thing
If you give them the true 84, that's about 680 per tank. A regular Prius with a 12 gallon tank does about 600. So again, you don't see any drastic reduction in the number of times you are going ot have to gas the car up.
You are going to pay less per mile, but it isn't some hysterically low amount. At the end of the day, you would buy this thing because it's cheap, and decent mpg/cheap fuel costs would be an added bonus
The kind of "city" person looking for a "city" car isn't going to be swayed on price, they still have to pay for insurance, parking, gas, etc. And it's a lifestyle for man people. The kind of person this appeals to is already going to use Uber, Lyft, or Zipcar.
The Up! Bluemotion will do 78.5mpg in the 60ps version and 76.3 for the 75ps yes the tank is quite small so you are looking at only 500-600 miles per tank but you do get 4 seats and a trunk like a real car in fact it is a real car.