Can't box the Fox

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First car, not a picture of mine but mine was identical except I had flaming eagle decals on the side.

Mine was also a 1982 not a 1980

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>>14318627
Foxes that arent Shitstangs or Crapis are the best

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Any Chevyfags want to tell me how great the LS1 is again?

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>>14318644
>>14318627
I said fucking AWESOME.
It's neat that there are sleeper foxes but you could at least post awesome examples thereof.

>>14318679
This guy desperately needs some wheelie casters

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>>14318679
but maybe I think stuff like this is more awesome than drag cars

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I like this one tho

Modular swapped

>>14318701
>thinking that ugly pos is awesome
Giggity

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>>14318733
thats how I feel about people who like Mustangs and Capris

>>14318729
>>14318738
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dimkuSsPLRo

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>>14318757
dat fuel pump whine

must be a Walbro kek

So does anyone here actually own a foxbody or is this just a bunch of edgy children who like turds?

>>14318817
use to own one, it's an acquired taste.

>>14318817
had a shitty 4 banger Mustang hatch

it was Calypso Green thats about where the positives end

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>>14318817
Tons of us do but this thread seems weirdly Fairmont-focused. It's the edgiest fox, you know.

>>14318842
That what I was referring to, how can you like Fairmont's and shit talk capris and mustangs.

>>14318849
Capris and Mustangs are repulsingly ugly

>>14318852
That's subjective child.

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Why can't we all get along?

>>14318852
>>14318627
>>14318644
>>14318701
>>14318729
> Fairmont: boring and worthless but also rare

>>14318849
It's like the edgy millennial trifecta

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>>14318908
Fucking mobile posting

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>>14318918
>>14318908
God fucking damnit I give up

Here's an engine bay

>>14318918
>>14318908
Third time's a charm, ol'foxwagon

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>>14318881
you asked how I can like them but not like Mustangs and Capris

I gave you my reason

>>14318945
Fox is just becoming classic and you're already splitting the constituency

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>>14318908

>>14318990
Thanks anon

>>14318852
>capri
>ugly
Them's fightin' words

>>14318945
Well I would expect any less from a child.

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This thread hurt muh feels

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>>14319075
Here's one for you

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>>14318613

>>14318701
I want those wheels

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>>14318817
There cheap why would nobody here own one

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>>14324774
Because nobody on /o/ actually owns cars we're all video game playing bus riding plebs.

Got a new phone and lost all pics of my car. You guys didn't happen to save any pictures of a calypso green fox with a white hood?

>>14325048
Check the archive

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Bump

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>foxes
>when you can get a new edge for around the same

why

>>14325048
>not putting them on an SD card
>>14326545
5.0 > modular, and the weight. A notch fox is light as fuck.

>>14326692
SN95 has a better chassis, weight is cheaper to lose than to improve a chassis

Modular is easily better

>>14326699
I guess engine vs engine is kinda personal preference, but you can greatly improve the fox's chassis without adding (very much) weight.

>>14326545
>straight, sharp lines vs. bar of molten soap
>lightest iron block V8 vs. early, heavy as balls Mod motor
>light as fuck chassis
>huge aftermarket support
>easy to find documented engine swaps

>>14326699
BBF>SBF>POWER GAP>SOHC 4.6 Mod motor

>>14326746
BBF is literally shit tier

opinion discarded

Foxes are the ugliest excuse for a Mustang ever made too

>>14326754
>>14326746
New Edge > Fox >>>>>>>>>> Bubble stang

>>14326754
I think foxes look great. And I like how small and convenient they are.

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>>14319198
My wagon > your wagon

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>>14326746
>>14326692
>not buying a v6 new edge swapping a 351 windsor

pleb-tier as fuck families

>>14326754
>BBF is literally shit tier
0/10 family

>>14318653
!woo

benis

>>14327331

Can any stock bottom end, stock block, stock cylinder heads BBF reliably make 2,300 hp with a pair of snails? The 4.6 can all the while being better in almost performance category (weight, power, cost, and so on).

>>14327349
all stock BBF heads are shit

also, stock bottom ends and stock are pretty strong

>>14327362

Let me put it this way. If you want to reliably make 2,300 hp from a BBF for cylinder heads you need P51 heads from Kaase. Those are going to run you $2,500. Running at stock block with a stock crank and aftermarket rods and pistons might be an option, but not a reliable one. So full custom block and bottom end. We'll say very conservatively $5k. Then you still have the intake, fuel system (pretty much going to have to be port EFI for this), the snails themselves. So maybe a DIY guy could build a 2,300 hp twin turbo BBF for $20-25k. Instead they could just go get a production 4.6. Change the pistons and rods. Add a fuel system, intake, and some snails and make 2,300+ hp in a light package. No exotic aftermarket cylinder heads, blocks, or crank and 1/2 the cubes or more. Man modern tech like DOHC and stronger materials are great!

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>>14327325
>not buying a bubble stang and swapping in a 351 cleveland
baka desu senpai

>>14327441

>351

absolutelydisgusting.jpg

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>>14327411
>stock 4.5 block making 2300 hp wih just new rods and pistons
sir what the fuck are you smoking

I love my OHC tho, but I cant belive you

>>14327441
the only good cleveland engines are the aussie ones, the americans are rare and overpriced

>>14327453
0/10 family

voodoo>coyote>351>BBF>anything else

>>14327471

http://www.accufabracing.com/john-mihovetz-mustang/2-uncategorised/34-john-mihovetz-mustang-2

Car was built for Drag Week to drive thousands of street miles and then cut 6 second passes. Instead converted to full drag spec and reliably cuts 5s @ over 250 mph.

>>14327485
>cobra block
>lincoln head
>stock crank

holy shit that is fucking impressive

I will never doubt modulars again

>>14327507

Yeah they are built fucking Ford tough. For a cast aluminum block to take 52-60 psi of boost no problem is amazing. What Mod motors lack in head to head naturally aspirated competition with LSx engines they make up for in handling boost. They have a huge advantage with the massive cylinder heads that have much more clamping force to handle the high boost/nitrous. Most production LSx blocks could handle 1,800 hp or more under boost, but you have to mitigate cylinder head lift at those levels. I worked with a guy that had a stock 2v 4.6. He put a huge Kenne Bell on it and upped the fuel pressure had the ECU flashed and that car made 625 to the tire no problem.

>>14327441
>actually buying the ugliest mustang ever
I'd rather a mustang II

>>14318926
Hahahahahahahah

>>14327411
>get a production 4.6. Change the pistons and rods. Add a fuel system, intake, and some snails and make 2,300+ hp in a light package

You forgot the part where you need to fill the block with cement, have a custom billet crank, cams and professionally ported heads.

Also, that fuel system is going to need to flow like a firehose from tank to intake port, and custom intakes aren't cheap.

But, other than that you're not all that delusional.

>>14327645

The block is full water. No Hard Blok in the engine block. Like I said the engine was originally built to be a dual purpose street strip engine for an unlimited Hot Rod Drag Week fastest street car. The crank is stock production. I believe the heads were CNC ported, but that's not a huge thing in today's world where you can buy off the shelf CNC ported heads of have it done at a competent shop for cheap (taking the skill out of hand porting actually drives the cost down once you get past the fixed costs of owning a very expensive CNC machine and tooling up the 1st example of a cylinder head). For sure the cams are going to be custom grind. You can get those from Comp Cams or a similar place for about $1,400 (keep in mind that's 4 custom grind cams). Sure the fuel system is built, and those CNC intakes aren't cheap. But you'll need a similarly priced fuel system and intake for the BBF. Basically with the BBF you need aftermarket everything. For the 4.6 you can at least use some stock parts. It's going to be cheaper, more reliable, and make more power than any BBF you can build for the same cost.

>>14327723
>It's going to be cheaper, more reliable, and make more power than any BBF you can build for the same cost.
Not at the $500 and a weekend price point

Can anyone give me some ideas for what to do next as I'm adding power to my fox on a budget? I just put in 373 gears and redid the exhaust. I was thinking GT40 heads and explorer intake next along with mass air conversion, then a cam.

>inb4 nitrous
No. I don't want to put that strain on my engine, and I want bolt-on power rather than temporary boost.

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>>14327560
Ugliest are definitely early fifth gens.

>>14329204
Supercharger then I guess but the cam will get you the biggest single gain cheap

>>14329223
Someone is offering to sell me an e303 cam for $80. It's probably used. Should I buy it and will I need to replace my rockers? I expect to have to do a mass air conversion.

>>14329223
Nah man a set if iron gt40 geads off an explorer will get you the biggest bang for your buck than any mild cam letter cam. You could get a good set for $100 at a junk yard or on craigslist.

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>>14326545
>liking the New Edge Cuckstang design

>>14329895
>gt40 heads
>iron
>>14329204
If you don't already have a MAF I'd consider carb unless you know what you're doing.

>>14329922
You're thinking of the gt40x heads. The regular gt40 or gt40p heads that came off explorers are indeed iron.

I've got a shitty smog era 302. 135hp from a v8 which is pathetic. What's the easiest thing I can change for more power and what can I expect?

>>14330189
Heads 165 to 170cfm. Intake and cam that make power in the rpm range you want. And exhaust(long tubes or nothing). Don't forget bigger throttle body, MAF, and injectors. Now you have a 302 that makes around 300whp or more depending on how serious you get with the heads and cam.

>>14330351
>smog era
>only 135hp
Chances are it's got a carb.

>>14330189
Fuck figuring out fuel injection so just get a performance carb. E303 cam for maximum ford respect, valve springs to run it. Headers like mentioned before. Those 3 things will turn it from a mule to a mustang

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Pissing of purists since birth

https://youtu.be/Whgcqwfm3mk

>>14331363
I would love to open the hood of my Ram D50 and see that but if I opened the hood of my fox body and saw it, I'd probably call the cops.

>>14331282
Then a good card 650 holly then

Got an 84 hatchback behind the garage. Going to start working on it when it gets a bit warmer outside. No idea what the previous owner did to it, so it should be fun. It's also been sitting for a few years.

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>>14318817
I have one, owned multiple

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_2Z8W2rUk

I wish winter would be over sooner so I could start working on mine sooner. Plans are being made. Gonna rebuild the motor,refresh the diff and get some decent subframe connectors welded in this year, work on handling stuff the next year.

>>14335910
Oh shit, I forgot my actual question: Anyone have experience with GT40X heads vs the stock heads? I know the stock ones are garbage, but most forum people are comparing them to ported gt40s or gt40ps.

>>14335833
Noice

Post more

>>14335940
the stock heads are way more restrictive than stock GT40s or GT40Ps. If you get them ported they will come out similar to GT40s or GT40Ps. Where did you hear that?

>>14335940
The gt40x's are gonna be a bit better on the airflow and also lighter since they are aluminum

I want new tires for the best handling on my foxbody, and I'm prepared to roll lips to get 'em. I'm thinkin' 245/45-17 front, 275/40-17 rear. Remember, my priority is cornering.

What are your experiences with bigger tires on foxbodies, and what do you think of my numbers?

>>14339182
275 wont fit on the rear even if you roll the fenders i dont think

>>14339184
I think you're wrong.
305s on 17x9.5 wheels fit rear, if you roll the fenders.
>>14339182
Get new rear control arms and delete quad shocks, then if you roll, you can fit a fuckin house in there.

>>14339184
You have to hammer the inner fender wells a bit. And get new control arms, and get rid if the quad shocks that you dont need because of the new control arms.

>>14339182

You're going to want to go for a square setup or close to it for handling unless you've got your Fox to 50/50 weight distribution. With an all aluminum engine and light weight k-member the Fox is about 52% nose heavy so running more than 10-15 mm section width out back over the front will cause you to have to tune the understeer out first, which can limit overall adjustment.

So how lightweight can you get one of these without stripping out all creature comforts?

>>14342413

I'd say 2,900-3,300 lbs is possible if you have a full interior. Most of the drag cars I've seen that are fully stripped interior (cage added back in) with lightweight front suspension, lightweight wheels, SBF with aluminum heads, T5 transmission, Ford 8.8" rear end weigh around 2,950 lbs or so.

>>14337146
Oh aorry, I meant I couldn't find any stock vs gt40x comparisons. I'm shooting for 300+ crank hp, I figure like 700 dollars for a brand new set of aluminum heads with good valve springs already in them is a good deal. I can make up for not porting them with a decent cam.

>>14343000

Where can you get a set of new aluminum SBF heads assembled with springs for $700? I can almost guarantee you're buying into Chinese junk that's going to perform terribly.

>I can make up for not porting them with a decent cam.

No, you cannot.

>>14343032
Disregard that, it's $700 per head. I think I'll be going the pick-and-pull regular GT40 route and porting them as well as rebuilding them.

>>14343060

Honestly, you'll get great results with that especially for a street engine. You want those smaller runner heads to create velocity. Port them out a bit to smooth the ports up, gain a small amount of flow without losing much if any velocity.

>>14318738
>when that ugly pos beats your nice looking shitbox
CLASSIC

>>14319198
My home province!

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Anyone from the NY area?

Not a bad deal for a road race/autoX Fairmont. Looks like you could go run in it in a World Racing League or Optima Ultimate Street Car event the week after you bought it.

>>14345157

http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/5416184322.html

Probably would help to include the link.

>>14343082
Since you seem like you know what you're taliking about, what cam(s) have you had any personal experience with? I've been told there's way better options than the e303 out there, but streetability is still key.

>>14345420
Or I suppose I could not be a fucktard and Google things for myself.

>>14345450
>>14345420

I honestly don't do too much SBF stuff. Figure out what your engine setup is going to be. Call Comp Cams. Tell them about your engine and how you plan to use it. For free they will give you a decent recommendation. Look for cams with similar specs if you don't want to buy a Comp. I often do that and I also use Dyno simulation programs to pick SBC cams. Would work for SBF too. I have a custom grind in my SBC because I wanted to run a lift rule style cam with a bunch of duration which wasn't available off the shelf.

>>14327325
>I am become Cobra R