Didn't see a thread, but what does /o/ think of the Focus RS?
It seems to be getting rave reviews. I'm considering buying one. While buying new isn't the best idea it seems like production will be limited which should help it maintain value over the years.
I'll admit they've been doing well so far, the GT350/R engine is fucking nuts and incredible sounding for a factory engine. The ST's are nice, but otherwise I don't think they've been doing well. Their fodder cars are all kinda... eh in most respects.
Except the TTv6, that's cool as fuck.
The RS is nice but its price puts it in a very competitive place for sports cars and most those people aren't like for a hot hatch.
It starts at what.. 35k? Then it's so incredibly limited in its first year that it's getting +10 attached to it right out the gate and then you have to factor in all of the extras you'll want and you're looking at 60k or more once taxes and shit is all done and said.
Great car, but not when you compare it to what you can get for that dosh.
The 2016 Ford Focus RS starts at $35,730, which puts it just above the Subaru WRX STI in price, but right in line with the Volkswagen Golf R. (Availability in the UK and Australia hasn't yet been revealed, but the US price works out to £23,484 and AU$50,247.) Expect to see it in dealers in the spring of next year.
I can understand how they reached that price point if you look at the price of the Focus ST - but for that much money you could get an M3.
Sure an M3 doesn't have drift mode, but I would imagine both are expensive to run and maintain.
Dealer markup plus options will put easily put it past 45 thousand american dollaridoos, which would be much better spent on an actual performance car, rather than a 350 hp Haldex mememachine.
Saying it's better than the current STi isn't really saying much, considering the Subaru was obsolete eight years ago and has a revamp in the works.
Let the mouth breathers from Jalopnik have the Focus RS, because for that kind of money you really should be looking at Caymans and M2/3s and Corvettes and IS350 F-Sports, not a fucking Focus.
It's nothing more than a decent halo vehicle shat out by Ford in small quantities so idiots in base model Focuses and Fiestas can pretend their cars have some performance heritage.
>better equipped than $36k lancer/golf, $38k impreza
>BUT YOU CAN BUY X USED FOR Y
fuck off you're the reason used cars cost so fucking much
which after almost a year without news likely is getting pushed back until 2018
>explicitly said not to use haldex
a m2/3 is likely going to be ridiculously marked up too, and a fucking is350?
seriously dude? not even in fucking comparison.
I did this and don't regret it. RS is cool but they're hard to find under 40k and even if you do you're reminded by the interior you're driving a 40k econobox with some soft touch and silver accents.
You're right, an IS350 would actually be a good daily driver, unlike a shitcan Focus. And Ford has stated that their AWD system has an electronic center differential that sends power reactively when the computers think you will need it, or when it detects slip. That's Haldex, bud. A spade is a spade is a spade.
They've gone overboard with this euro hot hatch thing
One don't you try reading one or two of the road tests and figure it out. While I bet its good I doubt its up to par with the AWD on a Evo or a STI, but that doesn't mean the rest of it doesn't make up for the fact.
Yeah, and the M3 would be ten years old.
Seriously, comparing used cars to new is ridiculous, and somebody has to buy cars new for there to be used cars in the first place. A brand new M3 costs 70k+ now, and that's for one that's not very well equipped. (My friend's loaded one was 97k OTD.)
I FUCKING LOST MY SHIT
i don't know why but i did until i started coughing and my gf got concerned
>M3 would be ten years old
Lol nope. 2012 M3, $42k.
That's actually a pretty good price for a '12 with only 36k on it.
The RS is 35k though, and it's worth pointing out that financing is much harder to get and much more expensive on a used car than a new one, especially a high-risk car like an M3. If the same guy with decent credit and the same down payment finances both cars, the RS is likely to cost around 42k, while the M3 could easily top 55-60k after interest. The M3 is also likely to be much more expensive to insure and has a higher cost of ownership thanks to maintenance and repair costs. (I used to work at an M3 specialty shop, so I know very well what keeping an E92 running takes.)
ONE HUNDRED MORE HORSES