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I have a problem with a mechanic and I need some advice /o/.

I took my car in to have to have heads resurfaced, the block bored and milled, the gaskets replaced, and put back together.

While he was dragging his feet to get all this done, he filed for a lien on my car for a total of around $6400.

And so went to go pick up my car because it was supposed to be done. And he said he was waiting on a coolant pipe to come in because it was leaking.

So, I asked for a bill. He refused to print me out a bill. And wouldn't let me pay for it. So, I called the cops and they argued for over an hour and then he said he's closing up a. That I can pay for it Monday.

The cops got me a bill and it has numerous parts one there that I never agreed to and he never once told me it needed to be done or that he was going to do it. And pparently he is saying it was done two weeks ago and that I never came to pick it up and it was considered abandoned an now he's trying to get a possessory title for my car. He never told me that my car was ready an never called me to come an pick it up.

I've come to find out that he is a registered sex offender and had multiple judgements against him that he refuses to pay and no one has been able to force him to pay since he owns his own business. So, if I pay the full amount, get my car, take him to court, and he's judged to reimburse me. He just won't pay it and it'll cost me a few extra thousand dollars for an attorney.

How do I handle this shit storm?
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>>14311351
>block bored and milled, the gaskets replaced, and put back together.

Why didnt you take this to a machine shop in the first place? Who visits a mechanic in the first place
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>>14311351
Break his knee caps.
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>>14311351

Get an attorney. It's going to go there might as well get the ball rolling now.

Also try to sue him for everything you possibly can, emotional distress, say you lost wages because you couldn't get to work or some shit.

Also might be time to visit him in the middle of the night with a lead pipe and I'm not talking to fix the plumbing.
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>>14311351
Steal it back if it's parked outside and you have an extra key
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>>14311351
One of you is lying. Until you get that sorted you are wasting your time.
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>>14311365
>machine shop
nigger what
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>>14311403
That's what a machine shop does you idiot
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>>14311365
I didn't to do that until now.
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>>14311351
Tell them he raped you
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>>14311369
>>14311374
I want o break his legs. But, I'm too nice of a guy. I don't mind paying what's owed, but I don't want to get cheated like this.

>>14311385
He has it in his garage with the doors closed. I could t take it out if I wanted to.

>>14311403
>>14311424
A machine shop would have only charged me $1200 for a long block assembly and machine work. But, I have to have someone pull the block for me. I don't have a picker or a truck to haul the engine.
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>>14311442
Lawyer up, threaten with a lawsuit if it isn't resolved, have him give your car back and all that good shit, and then sue his ass anyways.
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>>14311452
If I do that, it's just going to cost me money and he will just refuse to pay the judgement and they cannot garnish his wages since he owns his own business. Though, his wife's name is the primary name on the business and he is secondary. I don't know if that helps any.
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>>14311525
You can't just not pay when a court orders you to. If you don't you can take him to criminal court, not small claims.
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Out of curiosity, what car was it, OP?
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>>14311537
Probs a shitbox
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>>14311351
This is fraud, the police can do more than just tell you he's in the grey area.

Produce paperwork that proves he's full of it. Emails, text messages, invoices, everything. SAVE EVERYTHING TOO. BACKUPS.

Either the police intervene based on evidence you provided that clearly indicate fraud, or you bring him to a civil court, lawyer up, and he's be legit fucked. If he loses, which he will, because he's counting on you to not lawyer up, he has a court order to pay YOUR lawyer too, which your lawyer WON'T harass you for, because they have all sorts of little tricks they can pull on people and fuck up their lives.
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>>14311536
Actually, they can't do anything if he claims he doesn't have the money to do it. Hospitals go through this all the time. He already has tens of thousands of dollars in liens against him after judgements. And since he owns his own business, they can't garnish his wages. The only thing someone can do is keep taking him to court and keep extending the lien.

>>14311537
A 69 Mach 1.

>>14311550
A mechanic wouldn't go through all this for a pos.
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>>14311536
If the person has no money, they can't pay. The court will usually find a way to garnish, but now he'll have no car, legal fees, and he's getting $20 a month for 20 years.
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>>14311525
At best you will get the car back and not have to pay anything.

Get the police report and also if he contacted you get a contact report from your phone company going all the way back to when you first handed this sleezeball your car. That will show if his claim is true or he's a further shitbag.

Other anons have already said this but lawyer up good.

Good luck.
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>>14311565
As for parts and services you never agreed to, he has no legal recourse for implementing them without prior consultation without a quote for costs or permission. That's illegal.

I'm basing this off Australian law, which is similar to American and UK law. You'll find these most likely apply.

Just lawyer up now, and let the lawyer figure out how to nail the cunt.
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>>14311587
Why did you want it to get the block bored? Why didnt you mill the block yourself?
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OP, let me make this very simple for you.

Gain all phone records you can in regards to him, grab any paper work you can, text messages, voicemails, etc.

Speak to a lawyer, ask the lawyer to go with you to his shop and explain to him if you do not get your car back, you will be pressing charges. You will not pay for any of the parts he put on without your permission, etc etc.

He should give it back to you, and you will incur little to no lawyer costs.

Then, instead of paying thousands to a lawyer with a chance of losing out on it, give that money to Guadelupe and his boys and have the guy cemented 10 feet beneath a tree.
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>>14311525
>they cannot garnish his wages since he owns his own business.
This is horseshit. If you get a court settlement they can't choose to never pay it
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>Use mastercard or visa to pay the bill
>immediately send him a certified letter disputing the amount
>at the same time send mc/visa a letter disputing the amount
>make sure you include evidence
>more than likely he won't even respond to mc/visa
>charge gets taken off your account
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>>14311587
Then break in at night, take your car back, and break the nigger's legs. Or cut his achilles tendon.
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>>14311434
>2015+1
>not enjoying a good anal ravagIng
Faggot detected
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>>14311351
I would tell you to lawyer up but you seem to have already decided that it's useless.
So lawyer the fuck up, sue the fuck out of him.
OP, you sound like a 16 year old faggot who's never gotten into an argument with his dad, let alone confronted someone for attempting to scam him.

So here OP, if you do nothing and lose your car, it's not his fault, it's yours.
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>>14311442
You know you can rent an engine hoist and even a truck, right?
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>>14311596
Yes an no. At my shop, the paper you sign on the bottom has info that says we will do work that is necessary to complete the repairs that may not be on the quote. Happens all the time. we need some parts that we find are bad once we get into it. Sometimes we can't wait for hte customer because they don't answer, call back etc. Now having said that, we won't ever do this for more than a couple hundred $ MAX. And we always try to call first. But most shops have this on the paperwork to protect themselves.

>>14311351
Don't waste the time. He didn't do anything illegal really, just shitty. You will end up in court for a while and with a bunch of lawyer fee's. Get your car back, work out the correct price with him. Then blast him online with FACTS (provable facts) and never go back. Sometimes you cut your losses and learn a lesson. This is one of those times. He's a shit, but you won't get anything out of this.
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If all fails, break his legs.
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>>14312143
I know that here you need to ask for anything above $50.
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>>14312143
If it's related to the orginal job in a justifiable way, sure I'd buy that.

>replacing the serpentine belt
>that idler looks sketchy, better replace that as well.
As opposed to...
>replacing serpentine belt
>throw a brake job in because why not

The really sketchy part here is the guy claiming he contacted Op to say it was done and then claimed it wasn't and then claimed it was abandoned. This isn't including the 6400 dollar lien put on the vehicle before an attempt to pay was even made.

A lawyer's advise in this situation is invaluable to ending this matter swiftly and properly.
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>>14312247
True, but we can't rule out that OP is retarded. I don't know where he is but here you have to send CERTIFIED letters to the owner before you can file for a lean. AND there is a pretty long waiting period before it's a lean. NO ONE would let him put a lean on it in 2 weeks. No way.
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>>14311525
Fuck his wife
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OP here. Slight update. I went to the shop with a police escort and the car was not even at the shop. He put it in a storage. So, I paid him what he asked for, the officer went to the storage with him. While I went to the police station. They delivered my car to the police station. He gave me the keys and left immediately. I then checked the oil and the dipstick is clean and dry.

What does anyone suggest? Use this in court against him?
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>>14312995
Yup.
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>>14311525
If he refuses to make court ordered payments he can be held in contempt of court which is ACTUALLY punishable by locking the person in jail until they are no longer in contempt.
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>>14312261
This is what I was thinking..

I'm a Canadian, so the rules may be different, but we can't just go throwing leins on things willy nilly. There's huge processes, usually a lawyer, certified mail, etc etc. Something doesn't add up here.
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>>14312995
>I then checked the oil and the dipstick is clean and dry.

So you are saying he left it dry to purposely ruin the engine? Or did he drive it there with little to no oil?

This all sounds extremely shady and suspect. I really wonder what the real story is or if the mechanic did have some form of ulterior motive.

Filing for a lien on your car wtf? clearly he wanted the car and was willing to see if you'd let it happen.

If he really does have judgments against him then I wouldn't even question the fact that hes a known scammer/thief.

This is a situation in which you show up in the night armed and with body armor on with a lvl 4 plate front and back and TAKE what is rightfully yours. I like to consider myself a rational person but theres a really good chance that "mechanic" would have been put in the hospital with a permanent disability.
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>>14312995
Fucking firebomb a quarter of his workplace in 6 months. You don't want to cause a write off
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>>14312995
I hope you had an officer write a statement saying he saw that there was no oil and it was delivered like that.
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>>14313114
Wanna bet he didn't actually do any work on the car too? OP, have it towed somewhere reputable to see if he did anything to the car.
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>>14313166
>have it towed somewhere reputable to see if he did anything to the car.

Yup, exactly what I would do no telling whats surprises he may have left.

Mechanic claims to have done work on car, claims OP never called and abandoned, files for lien on car, waits until last moment to give car back and only after a hefty extortion fee is paid (i.e. "work done") .

Pretty good scam and he probably only does it sparingly but man whats a grade A piece of shit.
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>>14313215
It's a 69 Mach 1, probably tried that shit so he could sell it to a boomer at discount price.
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>>14312995
Now that you have your car back Chuck a Molotov through his window on a weekend.
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>>14313231
OP can you post a list of parts and repairs?
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>>14313114
He has been driving it with either no oil or less than two quarts in it. And this is the fact that he has been test driving it. Then drove it to the storage. Then drove it to the police station.

And I haven't made any of it up. And the only thing I've left out is me calling to get updates on everything.

I agree that I think he was trying to get my car. And I think cops being there is the only thing that resulted me in having my car.
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>>14311351
>I have a problem with a mechanic
I'm not even going to read the rest

Stalk him, and his family if he has one, torture and kill them all, but save him for last and use the longest screwdriver you can find and you ram that sonofabitch down that worthless con artist with a wrench's throat over and over.... all the while screaming "WE GOT A LITTLE PROBLEM THAT"S GONNA COST YOU SOME MORE MONEY!!!!!!!"
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I think op is lying. post the guys name and business so we can look him up. As far as the estimate>invoice goes if you checked the box that authorizes repairs not on the estimate or didn't check the box saying he needs authorization before additional repairs (depends on the form) he was in his legal right to continue without notification. I also think you're full of it because an overbore would require oversize pistons and rings. A complete teardown usually gets new main, rod and cam bearings at a minimum, as well as crank turning and rod resizing if necessary. the heads would also have new valve seals, possibly guides installed and the valves lapped. either you're full of shit or stupid, I think both
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>>14313158
I asked them to, but they said they can't make a record of it. But, one of the police officers that I had been there last time and today is the one that I talked to about there being no oil. So, there is at least someone who knows. And I have pics and video of the dipstick being dry and being infront of the police station. So, there's that.

>>14313215
Oh, I am towing it to a dealership or a renown shop and having it inspected. I'm not leaving anything to chance.

>>14313398
I'll post a couple of points pics.
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>>14313398
Pic 2.

>>14313454
I provided Pistons and piston rings. He stated the piston rings were the incorrect size and bought some himself. And I'm not lying about any of it, friend.
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>>14313489

you tried to go cheap and ended up getting a deep dicking.
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>>14313520
>>14313489
Give us a this con-artist' name.
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>>14313454
$6400 would cover all of that for what sounds like a 4 cylinder
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>>14313547
Juan Ricardo Peña
I believe he lives in Shawnee, Oklahoma. His shop is 8400 S Western Ave, OKC, OK. It's called Tom's One Stop Auto.

And there is no Tom. Te business is under his wife's name as primary and his name as secondary.

And apparently he has done this to other people as well. He's a registered sex offender and has 10 or 11 counts against him.
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>>14313585
This guy is fucking up your car?
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>>14313585
Also, he goes by Rick. And he has other convictions under Rick Pena, John R Pena. Ricardo Pena. And Riccardo Pena.
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>>14313603
Yes.
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>>14311374
>visit him in the middle of the night with a lead pipe and I'm not talking to fix the plumbing.
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>>14313489
thats not for a 69 mustang though. it has no timing chain tensioner or guides its a duplex chain with only a cam and crank gear. there is also no seperate intake manifold and plenum. this looks to be for a modular engine if its a ford engine at all. you are bullshitting I knew it
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>>14313632
Most of the shit he charged me is literal bullshit. I know it is, he knows it is, and I'm taking him to court over it.
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>>14313632
And there is a separate plenum for the shaker intake.
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>>14313652
timestamp or bread the car. otherwise fuckoff.
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>>14313632
Also, it's not a normal Mustang. It's a Mach 1 with a 428CJ.
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>>14313676
No can do. Not only would I not do that for a car that is about to have a lawsuit concerning it, but I am towing it to a shop and leaving it there overnight. I don't trust this guy to not find where I live and do something.
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>>14313696
>>14313674
Responded to the wrong post.
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>>14313603
>OP went to a sex offender to get his car fixed

LMAO
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>>14313719
Yeah, I didn't know this until I started having problems with him.
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>>14313719
do you do background checks on your mechanics?
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>>14313664
no there isn't its a scoop that feeds the top of the air cleaner. there is also only one timing chain on a 428. if you had said car you would have posted it many times on this board, you know how replies and such work so I don't think you're a first time poster. this is fishy you're lying about the work, the car or both. anons got you
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>>14313739
I do now.
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>>14313739
this info can be found with a google search of his name lmao
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>>14313741
who cares if he's lying, unless your name is juan

its a good story nontheless and i got a giggle out of it
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>>14313749
not sure how it works in 'murica but over here you generally don't know the name of the guy working on your car
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>>14313741
Or do you just think. I'm sorry that you don't believe me, but I'm not lying about any of it. And a lot of these parts are bogus crap that I never authorized or was even told needed to be replaced.
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>>14313632
>>14313664
>>14313741
Also, I should note that before I got the car, it had a SOHC conversion from the 427 Cammer engine.
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>>14313851
mmhmm, piss off lying faggot. we know your bullshit, your mustang is bullshit and this story is as fabricated as your online persona. damnit /o/ we used to have actual people and actual conversations, now its memelords and bullshit fuck guys like you for making me dislike something I enjoyed. way to be enthusiasts.

thread hidden
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>>14313886
I don't get why you're so angry. If he's lying and he actually drives a fucking twingo it's still a good story
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>>14313886
Then don't believe me. That's fine. But, I just came here looking for advice on a bad situation.
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>>14313886
Also, if it makes you any happier, when all this is settled in court, then I'll post some pics for it for you with a timestamp and calling myself a faggot. Want it in pink highlighter as well?
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>>14313886
Why would he be lying dude?

This isn't some ebin ruse story
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OP, why not just post a photo of your car?
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>>14313959
Giving the mechanic's info and posting a pic of my car would give enough info for someone to find me and my car. So, I'm good. When all this is over and done with, I'll take it to a parking lot and take some pics for you all.
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My neighbor had her car fall off of a rack at a stealership,wouldn't even let her look at it,but offered her a honey of a deal on a new car.
She reported her car stolen.
Have teh guy arrested, annon.
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>>14313987
I'm going to try and get him for extortion and fraud. If I do get him convicted and him still being on probation, he won't see jail. He'll automatically get prison.
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>>14311351
beta faggot getting scumed.
you deserve it.
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>>14314070
why all the vitriol senpai?
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>>14313603

>dat moustache
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>>14313728

Where did he touch you?
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>>14313782

Nice stock image from Google.

Now post your own shit with a timestamp.
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>>14314233
The wallet. Haven't you been reading the thread?
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>>14314256
Actually, this was just a reference from wiki. I have never had the engine apart to show the SOHC setup.
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>>14313851
>427 SOHC conversion

Oh just stfu already. Christ.
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>>14314438
You act like that's hard to do.
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>>14314347
You dont have to, you can tell by the timing cover and unique intake manifold. Well you can't since this is fake but someone that owns one can.
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>>14313520
>>14313664
>>14313676
>>14313851
>>14313934
>put it in D for damage control senpai

>>14314438
I don't think he's saying it would be hard to do but nobody would do that to the most valuable american v8, they would have built a matching numbers 427 cammer or at least used a date coded 427 block to reman it if it threw a rod or for some reason had an unusable lower end
http://www.dragzine.com/news/original-ford-427-sohc-crate-engine-on-ebay-for-65000/
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/ford-427-sohc

and if someone had a cammer they sure as hell wouldn't take it to joe schmo for a rebuild

>>14314469
you left out the valve covers
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>>14311351
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahhahahahahaahaaabababababababhahahahahahhahahahahahaaa, that''s what you get for letting someone else do the work for you with out research before hand.
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>>14311525
if he refuses to pay because he doesnt have money, then doesnt that mean he's bankrupt? and the bank or whatever can repossess his entire business and properties?
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>>14313603
>manlet

they never learn do they
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>>14313603

>sexual battery of person of 16

So bullshit charge then.
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Blow up his shop with him and your car in it. Nobody will be surprised or saddened to learn that some shitty crack-head scam artist mechanic's shop burned down because he can't store fuels and oils properly; the cops won't expect you to destroy your own property. Insurance will likely cover your car at that point. It's a win-win situation.
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>>14311351
I just finished watching Dexter last week. Not even kidding just kill the guy, he's already guilty as shit. Nobody will miss the fucker, and youd prob get your car back.
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>>14316385

He could burn the shit down to make it look like insurance fraud.
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>>14313603

>chinless

Absolutely disgusting.
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>>14316383
Does he have the face of someone others will willingy have sex with?
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>>14311351
>ITT No one has a clue what has happened,

OP, that mechanic fucked your engine up. Should have dragged it to a machine shop. Now he is stalling you out to see if he can unfuck himself, unfuck your engine and still get your money. Thats what the lien is about. I guarantee it.
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>>14316383
>over 16
Check out this pedo, he can't even read.
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Make sure legal/lawyer fees incurred during the lawsuit are included in your suit against him.
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