What does /o/ think of the

>>14306023
anon? are you ok?

the is a pretty nice article desu, it makes our language sound better

>>14306023
op died

>>14306036
shouldnt text while driving

rip op

>>14306023
2015 dodge challenger srt hellcat

My only real complaint is from the side it just looks like a kids hot wheels car to me. Other than that it is what it is.

>>14306023
overall, it doesn't pretend to be anything other than what it is. Which is why it still looks like the classic. Ford and GM seem to be trying to pretty up the Mustang and the Camaro, trying to make them more modern and shit. the Challenger just doesnt give a fuck and says "yeah I'm a muscle car, you know damn well why you want me and it isn't because I'm modern"

>>14306023
Oh cool, Candlejack thre

>>14306023
THINK OF THE WHAT

>>14306096
>2016
>still using the Candlejack meme
wow, how stu

>>14306118
>implying noobs know how Candlejack threads wor

>>14306133
>implying Candlejack even exi

>>14306023
Mfw I actually read filename, unlike the majority

>>14306137
>You guys are seriously using an 8 year old meme
Get with the times, old peo

>>14306096
>>14306118
>>14306133
>>14306137
>>14306263
Candlejack is just a mem

Pigfat
Can't turn
Slow
Consumes more gas than what the arabs can produce in 50 years for a single mile
Loud
Obnoxious
Can't drive a straight line no matter what

its kinda shi

>>14306263
>>14306137
>>14306133

??? what are you retards doi

>>14306023
I think the world would be a better place if Ford and Chevy both made something a bit more like the Challenger, and also did something a bit smaller, lighter and more focussed. I kinda get the feeling that the new Mustang and Camaro don't really know if they want to be sharp, driver-oriented sports cars or big muscly cruisers like the Challenger.

So pigfat I can only respect it. If you're going to make a car that is heavy and can't turn, go all the way.

>>14306023
The is pretty decent.

>>14306023
neighbor has one in all black. See him driving that thing all over the place for the hell of it. In shitty Miami too

>>14306023
I really like the challenger. Maybe its not as lithe as its competitors but unlike the camaro and mustang the dodge challenger fits the perfect definition of muscle car. The hellcat variant reigns supreme over all muscle cars and is even faster than many superca

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op tried to corner at >40mph and died
rip

>>14306023
Challenger is the best modern muscle car. Charger is awesome too

>>14306023
WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF GROUND IS IT ON???

>>14306023
I fucking love the chally. I love any muscle car really.

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>>14306023
I have a 09 R/T, bought it out of the 3 current muscle cars because of the way it looks, a lot more comfortable than the camaro (I still like them too), and haven't ever really been a mustang guy (but dat gt 500 from Gone in 60 secs tho!). I plan to drop a different motor in it and I'm shooting for 1000+ hp and to join the 200mph club.

>>14310271
What did it cost you?
Would you recommend it?
Any mechanical issues to be aware of?
Does it count as a muscle car?

>>14310271
Got it from one of those used car lots (look around for awhile and find a good deal, those guys will always go lower), got it (around 2 years ago) for I think around $23,250? (before tax) and about $25,000 (after tax) and it had only 27,000 miles on it,
I would the only problem being the camaro ss is about the same price and it has about 35 more hp,
none so far, the 5.7 hemi is in just about every chrysler vehicle and runs fantastically, I did get a letter in the mail for a recall on some hose for the air bag so no big deal as soon as I get it replaced (dealer doesnt have them yet),
I would say it is, it's loud has a bunch of horsepower and you can take it aroud a corner sideways from a standstill (haven't tried taking it around a corner at speed, will report if I don't die when/if I try it)

>>14310317
Thanks lad.

>>14310277
Any other questions? Seriously look into what kind of car you want, price range, power, and if you even like it. Seriously, the reason I choose this over the camaro is because I test drove both at a local dealership and the challenger was more comfortable to sit in, I could see out of it better, and the suspension was as stiff (which I understand it's supposed to be in these kind of cars) but if I drove the camaro on anymore than an hour trip my back would probably start to bug me.

>>14310325
np brah, I love talking cars (especially if it's mine haha)

Midlife crisis mobile

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>>14310334
>any more questions
Get ready son
How much has the car depreciated?
Will it still be a good car in 5 years when gas is more expensive again?
ANY and I do mean ANY issues that might be more serious in the future? I'm a poorfag in college atm and I want a muscle car once I can get a degree+job
What's the range on a single tank?
Is it any good beyond being a muscle car? I mean commuting, luxury etc.
Thanks in advance, you seem chill af.

I have a massive hard-on for the Hellcat Challenger.

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>>14310355
Not that anon but I have a '15 R/T
>How much has the car depreciated?
Bought mine new so a lot
>Will it still be a good car in 5 years when gas is more expensive again?
I get 16mpg, I don't try to save gas though, I floor it pretty much all the time
>ANY and I do mean ANY issues that might be more serious in the future? I'm a poorfag in college atm and I want a muscle car once I can get a degree+job
Not that I know of. There were a few recalls iirc
>What's the range on a single tank?
Like 200ish miles
>Is it any good beyond being a muscle car? I mean commuting, luxury etc.
The 15 models have the newer interior, not too fond of the dash on pre15. It's larger than the mustang/camaro so more comfy. Full sized trunk too.

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>>14310388
Thanks breh.

>>14310355
What this guy said >>14310388
Depreciated, KBB says about a grand

I think It'll be a great car when gas is more expensive (E85 actually gives more horsepower, 93 is just better for your motor, burns cleaner, ect.) I have a manual trans so it really depends on how you drive it, the dealer swore it got up to 26 on the highway because it has the EMS (turns off 4 cylinders when in 6th gear and at highway speeds) I think he's full of shit like the other guy said I drive it like a 24 yr old would, I imagine if I drove conservatively I'd get around 18-20 mpg

Issues, none so far. The transmission is a tremec 60-60 is tried and true, again the 5.7 liter V8 has been around for awhile. If you do have the extra cash get a SRT8 ('11 and later models) it has a 392 (6.4 V8) literally the best big block out there right now (470hp 470 ft/lbs torque), otherwise read forums about issues I couldn't find any as of yet (dk how it'll perform when it has 100,000 miles on one)

Tank I would agree 200 miles, I did a lot of highway driving in it over the summer and I think I got 250 miles out of it,

I would say so, you can fit 5 ppl in it (not comfortably mind you) the interior varies year to year (obviously) BUT the model is where you'll see the huge jumps, the SXT (not a real muscle car in my opinion, has a V6) all cloth interior, not a ton of features, prolly no heated seats ect., the R/T has half cloth half-leather interior, mine has a sun roof (nice in the summer i guess?) higher quality interior accents better suspension, the SRT full leather seats, prolly comes with sirius radio, heated seats, brembo brakes, and some other stuff I didn't bother looking up. if you live anywhere where it snows or gets ice it will be useless, I've seen people drive them in the winter please don't do that. It'll rust exponentially and if you need to just buy a beater for the cold months

I mean just go test drive a few of them, see what you like, what you don't like and go from there.

>>14310501
The cylinder deactivation shit is only for auto, I have a manual as well and it doesn't work. I didn't want it anyways as they had problems with timing belts snapping on certain models. Fca had to replace quite a few motors for that fuck up

>>14310501
Also since you have a rt look into tazer (transformer on early models I think) it plugs into the obd2 port and unlocks some srt features as well as some nifty gimmicks like light show

>>14310501
I can get 26 out of mine cruising in 6th at 80mph, after the sc it's looking like it will be 1 or 2mpg more. Manual doesn't have MDS which is the cylinder shutoff BTW.

>>14306038
yeah poor OP shame he h

>>14310932
>>14310973
Thanks, I forgot what the acronym was for it and I had a pamphlet left in my car when I bought it so I just assumed. My mistake

>>14306280
But everything you listed is wrong.

>>14311046
I'd give him loud aaaaaaaand that's about it.

>>14311046
>>14311056
eh, i'd give him pigfat and obnoxious. unless you go aftermarket exhaust or straight pipe they really aren't that loud

I'd rather get the Charger HellFat. Looks cooler and has 4 seats.

>>14311079
Either one, I just wanna die from 700hp in a blaze of glory instead of like 150hp

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>>14310501
>>14310944
I have the base RT and I get about 15 mpg. I don't do a lot of highway driving. I have the tazer from z auto tech and it does unlock some of the performance pages that come on the higher trims.

>>14311167
wheels?

>>14306023
I think it's nice to look at but I'd rather just have the real '69 challenger.

>>14311177
the retro challengers are based off the 70-71 models

>>14311167
Might be a really stupid question but is the Charger RWD?

>>14311322
Yeah it's rwd. The 15s don't come with the v8 and awd.

>>14311175
They are 22x9 onyx 908s

>>14306280

I put a deposit on one, the owner of the stealership bought it out from under my deposit, which is another story, but I'll tell you what I experienced of it.

The power is fucking intoxicating. Roll into the throttle, and it just keeps on pulling forever. The interior is very nice. Not Mercedes nice, but it makes the interior of the Mustang and Camaro look like a cozy coupe. It is a very tame car when you're not balls deep in the throttle. It doesn't drone when cruising like the mustang and the ride is very comfortable. It is a heavy motherfucker, but it's much lighter on its feet than you would expect form bench racing spec sheets. The 6 speed is great. It should be, as it's the same unit from the Viper. The throws are a bit longer than the pony cars, but it's very precise. Revs are easy to control and down shifting is easy as pie. The clutch is heavy, but not uncomfortably so. I'd imagine that it has to be considering the clamping force that you need to hold that much power. I'm still trying to buy one as it is by far the most practical muscle car. The trunk is massive, and people can actually ride in the back comfortably which is just not possible in the Mustang and Camaro.

>>14312119
I agree with everything. My experience in the muscle car group goes as follows

Interior: Challenger > Camaro > Mustang
Performance: Camaro > Challenger > Mustang
Fun: Challenger > Camaro > Mustang
Looks: Camaro <> Challenger (tied) > Mustang
Best Deal: Camaro <> Challenger (tied) > Mustang

Challenger is a great car, I love them.

Note to everyone I am not hating on the Mustang, I just think it feels cheaper and less of everything.

>>14306023
not a fan. 3rd gen or nothing.

>>14314134
i guess you hate mustangs huh

>>14314581
No I don't hate the Mustang, however, my expeirience with them hasn't been as enjoyable. The 2015 Mustang is a dramatic improvement though.

>>14314134
Holy fuck this is so unbelievably wrong

Interior: Mustang > Challenger > Camaro
Performance: Camaro > Mustang > Challenger
Fun: Mustang > Challenger > Camaro
Looks: Mustang > Challenger > Camaro
Best deal: Mustang = Camaro >>>>>>> Challenger

You also don't get to accuse the Mustang of feeling cheap when you're comparing it to a Challenger. I'm using 2015 models (GT/SS/RT) for the sake of these ratings, by the way.

>>14314653
>wrong

It was my opinion so I get to say whatever the fuck I won't. Hit opinions, anon.

>>14314992
You didn't say it was your opinion at any point.

>>14315039
>"My experience goes as follows"
>My experience

I stated bright and clear that it was an opinion piece.

>>14314653
challenger owner here, so i'm biased but:

>Interior: Mustang > Challenger > Camaro
pre-'15 model challenger would have been dead last, post-'15 is no.1, love the retro dash.
>Performance: Camaro > Mustang > Challenger
yup, the ss is a 6.4 iirc, the 5.0 puts more power down than dodge's 5.7, though with the new scat pack (base model with 6.4) i think it would be camaro=challenger>mustang
>Fun: Mustang > Challenger > Camaro
cruising challenger is king, around the track camaro is king, at the strip depends on the model.
>Looks: Mustang > Challenger > Camaro
the challenger is the only one that stuck to the retro muscle look, the mustang now looks like some euro car, and the camaro keeps getting angrier
>Best deal: Mustang = Camaro >>>>>>> Challenger
challenger rt starts at 32,000, mustang gt starts at 32,400, camaro ss starts at 37,300. so it would be mustang=challenger>>camaro

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>>14306044
it's a good thing it has 700hp because it weighs 450 pounds more than an AWD crossover

>>14314653
>Performance: Camaro > Mustang > Challenger
Let me guess you get your *facts* from Motortrend who are biased and splooge over GM

>>14315823
Well I can't argue on a fun/looks basis since that's subjective.
>>14315870
No, I'm just not an edgelord who shits on GM because it's cool to.

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>>14306023
I think it got beat by a Honda Civic Type R on the Nurburgring...

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>>14315870
The SS is lighter than the GT and the R/T. The Camaro has the most horsepower and torque of the three. It has an LSD, dual/mode exhaust, the list of shit it has that the others don't is endless.

>>14315862
>hellfat
4449lbs/707hp=6lbs/hp
>equinox
4007lbs/182hp=22lbs/hp

why the fuck are you trying to compare the two?

>>14315870
straightline performance he's right, on a track the gap widens even more

>>14315899
not disagreeing with you but the ss is also 5k more than the gt and rt. the challenger scat pack is ~3800 so only 100 more than the ss and is more comparable in hp and torque. it would still lose on a track though.

>>14315896
nah i think it was that nordschlife or whatever track

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>>14315903
not in a race. just look at that.
Their high power """sports car""" is 450 pounds heavier than a crossover / small suv with all wheel drive. it's an LTZ too so it's the heaviest one. Power lift gate and all the other options that add weight.

I mean shit man you can get a Ford Explorer as "light" as a hellfat

>>14315968
Why not compare it to things that it is actually comparable to?

>>14315968
again the hp to weight ratio is going to be ridiculously in the hellcats favor. Why are you trying to compare a muscle car to a suv? They aren't even in the same class.

Just because its heavy doesn't mean its slow.

>>14315968
compare it against the older GT500, and make sure to note that the GT500 was cheaper, faster, lighter, and could turn better.

And then we roll in the tears.

>>14315990
>it is so much heavier than everything else in it's segment that I am comparing it to larger vehicles like these suv's to lampoon and poke fun at how large and heavy the hellcat is.
thanks for making me explain the joke

>>14315945
How autistic are you?

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>>14316011
>Just because its heavy doesn't mean its slow.

>>14310932
>timing belt
> on a chained motor

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>>14316071
Guess we can compare the Equinox and the Veyron then too

>>14310351
You people are just as boring as those who use dick size to judge all modified cars
Non-sense and boring
Thank god the world doesn't give any fuck to you faggots. Otherwise there will be no more interesting car and the car culture would be died.

>>14316145
you could always compare the veyron with the hellcat, then.

oh, wait.

>>14316145
this just makes the hellcat look even shittier.
The Bugatti has a huge 16 Cylinder engine with four turbos, big hydraulic active aero, and is capable of 240+ and STILL weighs 450 less than the hellcat

>>14315823
How does mustang look good? It looks like some import try-hard cheap super car wannabe
The stunning effect coming from camaro and challenger is nothing can compared off

>>14316081
He is right.

>>14316183
>This just makes a $70k car look shittier than a $1.5mil car
K

>>14316080
married with kids, so pretty damn autistic

>>14315823
Just my opinion but whenever I see a challenger or a Camaro on the road I tend to lean over and take a long glance before it moves on. Also when I'm with friends I will say, "check out that challenger!" Or "check out that Camaro!" I never find myself caring about Mustangs, they don't look unique enough for me to care or sound good enough. Completely opinionated.

Challenger - retro look whilst being modern and stands out.
Camaro - brings the anger and noise with a sleek looking body.
Mustang - cool tail lights and that is about it.

>>14316210
there's no doubt that the fact that ferd sells 12809123749012374081237482385 mustangs a second means that they blend in with other traffic.

I still love them, though.

In any case
>giving FCA money
please, let this stop. let the pain stop. let them die in peace.

>>14316183
>comparing a 2 million dollar car to a 70k car
>the hellcat still comes close to beating the Fastest car in the world on a drag

You are comparing apples to oranges faggot. Also the Challenger is a retro look, not a super car.

Why spend 2 million on a soulless car that goes fast when you could spend 70k on a car that will wax nearly every street racer and has a lot of soul.

>>14311440
Tragic because the v8's with awd are fun af in the snow.

>>14316230
>giving FCA money
while I agree that FCA is fucking retarded, coming out with the hellcat and scatpack (base model with biggest engine), plus having snek, I think they are really trying to get the enthusiast back. though they are killing snek which pisses me off

Fucking yanks never making rhd models of their cars!
Mind you we do get lots of neat old jap shit.
Anyway, is it true that in Murica you have to buy cars from dealerships, you can't buy them online and the dealerships aren't owned by the car manufacturer? I saw it on that Adam ruins everything show and it seems odd cos in NZ we can do all that shit, and have toyota/Nissan/whatever dealerships that are owned by those companies, and can buy brand new cars etc straight from their websites.

>>14316300
yeah adam was right and dealerships ruin everything

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>>14316230

>going to buy a challenger eventually

feels comfy

>>14306023
perfect design because of the 3 line theory

>>14316375
>3 line theory
esplain

>>14316378

Not him but i believe Aston martin will be mentioned