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MX-5 v. 135i
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Which would you buy, a new 2016 MX-5 or a ~2009 BMW 135i? Assume the Miata out the door price is close to $30k and the BMW is closer to $20k. I'm assuming the higher cost of owning the BMW over ~5 years would offset the price difference making them effectively financially equivalent.

Obviously the BMW has more power, but is it really better to drive overall? I've driven the new Miata and it doesn't feel as slow as I thought it would.

TL;DR, pick one and tell me why
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>>14295279
The miata.
Cuz I like cars that don't break down and cost more than they are worth to fix
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>>14295286
>dude BMW's are super unreliable, an expert on reddit told me!
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>>14295286
The 135s seems to be pretty good except for the fuel pump issue, unless I'm missing something
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>>14295279
Why do you wanna buy a hairdressers car?

Its fucking slow af, civics will make you look like a turtle
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>>14295367
Why would you visit reddit?
Gtfo
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>>14295279
Your picture is a 3 series btw.

and the bmw is a 300+ horsepower monster if you have to ask this you are a fag. but don't buy the 3 series drop top. if you really want a drop top get a Z4 M Roadster. Trust me. 330hp of straight six sex.

Miatas are for fags.
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>>14295279
Twice as fast as the miata. Interior isn't shit. And since it is used it is far cheaper. This is the car the miata wishes it could have been.
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>>14295367
Lol u retarded boy? There's a wealth of information at your finger tips that can lead you to the conclusion that bmws are expensive to fix. Use fucking Google you backwoods retard
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>>14295554
They are expensive to fix. They also don't break very often. That said that is the cost to drive a car that isn't a slow ass jap piece of shit. Well worth it in the mind of many. If you could afford one maybe your opinion would matter. Yes, they'll nickel and dime you to death but at least your interior doesn't look like it was made by fisher price.
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>>14295514
>>14295367
LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE REAL WORLD AND ACTUALLY OWNING A BMW, DONT DO IT
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>>14295575
>implying i haven't owned them exclusively for over a decade
Did babby get burned on his 5k used car? Also nice gif.
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>>14295589
>5k car
Not all faggots with money own a BMW
Not all poorfags "wish" they have one

I chose reliable. 250k miles on half the repair costs here I come comfy as fuck
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>>14295562
Yeah BMW interior is awesome
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>>14295589
clearly says it's a jpg there mate.

>>14295279
bmw is car ownershop on hard mode and most models aren't worth it. is the 135i the hatch?
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>>14295618
>Lexus
>Reliable
hehehehehehehhhehehehhahshshahhshahahhahahahhahahahahhshahhahahahhahahahagahhahahhahahagahahgaghagahahahhahehhahehaheheehahhaehehaehehehrhahehhehaeheahehahehaehaheaheaghaghaeghaghegehgaeheagheaghhhhahhahahahahahahahahhhahhahahhahahahahhahahaahhahahhahhahahahahhahahaahhahahahahahhaha
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>>14295618
Congrats on your toyota. If you choose reliability thats great but I'd prefer a car that handles better and has a nicer interior. If you wish to travel from point A to B cheaply then a BMW isn't for you.
>>14295621
Thats not a bmw you dumbass.
>>14295627
So a troll image? What am I missing
>bmw is car ownershop on hard mode
isn't that the /o/ way of life?
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>>14295621
>be me
>know your comment is wrong
>look at file name
>Benz
That's not a BMW, you disgusting idiot.
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>>14295634
>Thats not a bmw you dumbass
They do the same thing
Would you like me to find that picture?
>fake wood
>fake leather
>spray painted interior
Such luxury
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>>14295621
Not BMW, check filename
>audi is shilling this hard
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>>14295637
>>14295643
Stfu and see this
>>14295641
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Miata is much better looking to my eye.
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>>14295641
>getting Benz and BMW confused
I guess that's okay. Reading can be tough for those with Down Syndrome, but if you work at it you can accomplish many things!
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>>14295650
DAMAGE CONTROL
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>>14295618
Those are so shit to drive. I drove my bosses girlfriends. Goes like shit, shifts like shit, shit interior plastics there's laggy computers controlling everything. I wouldn't keep that car if I got it for free.
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>>14295641
We all agree Benz are shit.
Doesn't make it a BMW.
What third world country are you shitposting from? Show me the pic fgt.
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>>14295634
I beg to differ friend
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>>14295658
>autotragic
also have you seen that nose lol.
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>>14295657
>>14295655
>>14295654
>>14295643
>>14295637
>>14295634
>fake wood
>fake leather
>spray painted interior
Such luxury
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>>14295641
>ive never owned a bmw the post.
The wood is real
The seats are real
The plastics and composites are molded in the correct color
And mine was a 98

Anything else you wanna lie about.
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>>14295666
Benz from late 80's
nice try
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>>14295652
Get them checked.
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>>14295666
everyone knows cars have "leather look" soft touch plastics
did you really expect anything else on much short of a bentley
>inb4 some shitbox invented before plastic
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>>14295674
That's an E90.
I can post the link
>>14295673
You're delousional
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>>14295666
Thats not a BMW.

Next shitpost please.
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>>14295687
>this much denial
Holy fuck
www.wearetheweekenders.com/blog/repainting-the-back-of-a-bmw-3-series-e90-center-console
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>>14295658
Ive been in that exact car. It looks worse in person.
>Touchscreen
>touchpad
>still buttons everywhere
>Console looks like a stack of 90s home electronics
>cups go where your elbow does
>Cant rest your right hand without hitting a button or some other shit
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>>14295656
but anon, i'm not a boyracer, I like smooth and comfy, while having money in my pocket.
>>14295634
Lexus and Mercedes for the most part, have more genuine interiors. I drove a 335 and being faster in a straight line in no way makes up for the hard stoney feel of every part of the interior. A 2009 335i costs almost 8-10k LESS than a 2009 Lex/Merc competitor for a reason, the fun doesn't last for very long.
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>>14295689
>e90
Fair enough. Those are shit tho. Also it would take an act of god to make that much wear. Try again. That is ridiculous. My family has three e90s and none are even worn there. This fag has kids that kick the console 24/7. what do you want them to do, make tan plastic lol?

That is not even remotely "normal" wear.
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>>14295705
I owned a detail shop for a few years.
All BMWs looked like that mang.
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>>14295701
That interior is disgusting.

And no it is because of their shit turbos. Not their nice interiors. Also autos are for women. And you.
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>>14295678
Im not mine was falling apart and when the lacquer peels off theres real wood under it. Spraypainting soft touch composites doesn't work. Theyre made in the final color. The leather seats are real leather.
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>>14295712
Show me another picture that isn't from a guy on a forum with kids who rested their feet on a center console made of plastic for 50k miles.

Then I'll show you my interior with 60k miles, you show me yours, and we'll decide who's is better build quality.
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ITT
>stop liking what i don't like
>what you like is shit
>no u
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>>14295719
Sorry but my 1988 corolla has better quality interior. And it's at 323,000 miles.
Stop trying to defend your shitty BMW.
>Damage control is real
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>>14295723
>/o/
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>>14295724
I conceded the e90 may be shit. My BMW isn't. Try again. Any IRL experience or just internet tall tales?
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>>14295701
Thats the thing it isn't smooth. The transmission feels like it has no idea what its doing shifting randomly too late or early. Then when you eventually "manualy" shift it is has a delay like it thinks you dont know what you're doing. The suspension isn't good either. Its jiggly and yet not firm enough at the same time.
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>>14295712
They really don't. Past 04 they went downhill for sure.
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>>14295732
Yes
>>14295712
To add to it.
The carpet falls apart when you look at it.
The seats are always cracked.
Buttons are always missing.
The glovebox won't close all the way.
The center console won't close all the way
The cupholders are broken as fuck.
I could go on for days
Detailed 1000s of BMWs m8.
The interiors are shit.
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>>14295724
>Memeing
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>>14295724
the one bmw i owned was shit (mostly my fault for buying in the dark) but it still had a decent interior after 20 years
you can't fuck 99% of car interiors like this unless you spill something nasty or have dogs or kids in there
some do tend to melt bits in the sun though
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>>14295732
>tfw own a twenty one year old E36 and the interior looks almost new
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>>14295747
Women don't take care of their 328s and never have. Its not the car's fault.
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>>14295747
If you detailed a single car, no matter the marque, like that then the owners were terrible people who either blatantly abused or neglected their cars. Probably why they came to you for their services. After all, you are on par with a jiffy lube in terms of customer competence.
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>>14295750
>Memeing
What part of that is a meme?
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>>14295758
seems like your entire life is a meme
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>>14295756
>damage control turns to insults
Classic /o/
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>>14295754
Same. My e36 looks brand new less the drivers seat which wear is wear after 180k. My e30 is amazing minus the cracked dash and my e85 looks like it is a 2015. People like this either deal with the lowest tier of owners or are full of themselves.
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>>14295758
Suggesting a corolla of any year has a better interior than anything other than a tercel. My friend has your car. Its trash.
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>>14295766
Holds up better than a BMW.
In every aspect.
I'll keep my toyota
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>>14295736
You probably drove a neglected base model is250
They also have an issue with the intake system after the throttle body where "deposits" mess up the ratio, comfusing the shit out of everything, doubt it was ever cleaned.
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>>14295763
>implying a quality detail shop deals with shitty cars
nga pls. the car wash i worked at had higher standards. now show me the fake wood et al
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>>14295769
Not everyone can be proud of an appliance car. Then again, that is why BMWs aren't for you.
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>>14295774
You realize you just called BMW shitty
Brb with that fake wood though
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>>14295747
Can't speak for the new ones but my 95 M3 still looks good even with its life in the California desert. The only issue is some of the glue melting.
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>>14295786
dude. clean your seats with leather cleaner. i mean look at that armrest. even water and a sponge will take 90% of that off.

also dove gray m3 ftw. on my someday list for sure. now clean your car dude.
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>>14295786
Those pharoh seats are hella weird when they're not all the way down.
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>>14295618
>driving a lexus and not being a woman or an elderly person
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>>14295786
>dirty door panel
>dirty seats
>worn shift knob
>missing door handle trim
This pic saddens me. Two hours with a sponge and $100 and your car would look like new. What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>14295791
I know, they need to be cleaned badly. Eventually I will. This was my dad's car before me, and he didn't take care of the interior at all. I've cleaned the armrest and seats better since that picture if it makes a difference. Some of it I think is stained.

>>14295792
They do.
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>>14295279
1 series, just because I've always had a boner for them.
Not even from a benchracing perspective, they just look -cool- to me.
But I'd be the kinda guy to get a 1M because I hate convertibles and prefer hardtops.
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>>14295805
Yeah your seat is fucked your dad abused the leather. That said your door panel is vinyl and will 100% clean up as good as new. water and a cloth and scrub.

What a shame. The people who can afford these fine cars abuse them out of apathy. Money in fact, cannot buy class.

I'd recover the seats if I was you. For 1k or so you'd look good as new. Many kits out there for vaders. How many miles anon?
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>>14295798
>not enjoying the reliability of toyota in a more comfortable, smooth and lazy format
It's like you want to feel the bumps in the road
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>>14295811
1Ms are like double the price. They make the 135 in hardtop you know.
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>>14295827
Most people on /o/ like to be able to tell their in a car and not on a carousel.
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>>14295811
Convertibles suck. Roadsters are awesome. A car designed from the ground up to be a drop top rocks. Those that were made a convertible as an after though suck.
>Z cars, boxster, etc.
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>>14295798
>not having one as a balls reliable comfy dd to horrific places such as "the city" and "crowded parking garages" and "mexico"
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>>14295831
I don't, really. They're extremely uncommon in Texas, and I only knew they existed because grid 2 I think.
Most of the time when I see one I write it off as another 3 series until in retrospect I realize it was too small.
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>>14295834
>drives a Lexus
>only listens to carousel/RCTycoon2 music every commute
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>>14295816
75K.

I just got the car last week so I haven't had the chance to recondition the leather and reglue the panels that've come off. Can't be too mad, it was free.
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>>14295839
Literally a camry.
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>>14295846
Dude...
That is awesome. Recondition that bitch back to new. What color exterior? Sorry if you're a bimmer guy but that car reconditioned is worth a shit load of money, you know that right? More pics please.
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>>14295853
Purple. I wouldn't sell it.

Definitively needs some exterior work too.

Did I mention it'd been sitting in the sun for the last two years, untouched. I could take it if I could get it running and I kid you not, I put in a refresh battery and it fired right up. Gave it a tune up and some tires and bam.

For the OP, I'd splurge and get the M235i.
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>>14295872
>fresh*
It's too late at night.
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>>14295872
>>14295879
I hate your dad. I don't even understand how this happens. I live in the desert and my cars wouldn't look like this if I parked them in a lake for a decade.

Either way you def aren't restoring that so clean up the interior and focus on performance. Mad jelly anon. Will own one some day. Best free car ever.

What Dinan shit does it have?
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>>14295879
Last picture, don't wanna hijack the thread for my project car.
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>>14295890
Supercharger kit. Runs great.

I was gonna strip it to the bare paint and reapply the clear coat. Won't be perfect but it'll be better than it looks now.
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>>14295893
Really.

Your dad threw away a Dinan superchared e36 m3 in Daytona Purple. How fucking rich are you? Or is your dad just retarded? Are you trolling me?
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>>14295895
If its cheap. Really you should fix the interior then deal with the paint job. You always paint the car after everything else is fixed.
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>>14295893
>>14295879
>>14295872

>techno purple on ivory

holy fuck

my all time favorite combination.

fix her good, anon.
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>>14295897
Totally not trolling you.

He bought it for me in 2003 after I got my license in high school. I raced around in it, cheated death, you know, normal stuff until I moved out in 2007 to "be my own man" or whatever, moved out of state and bought another car. My dad drove it off and on until about two years ago when he said he the engine wouldn't turn over and he could smell gas. Started right up for me.
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>>14295908
Totally. The paint is my least concern.
>>14295917
Thanks.
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>>14295836
I dunno, always preferred a hard surface over my head, sense of security and whatnot.
Same reason I don't like motorcycles.
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>>14295918
If you two didn't abuse that car it would be worth $16,000+

I mean dude like wax, a garage, maybe an oil change?

I feel sad for your car man.
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>>14295872
Hey I have one of those. My interior is far worse, clearcoat is starting to peel. Mine has 220k miles though. Runs amazingly well and is a blast to drive, so I don't really care.
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>>14295930
desu i didn't "get" roadsters or even drop tops til i rode a bike. its like getting sideways with your windows down X100. all them noises and wind and shit.
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>>14295932
Don't worry I'm mad too. When I left it the car looked and ran great. Now it only runs great, and with a little TLC will look great again.
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>>14295940
That's what I like to hear. A car that runs good but looks bad is better than one that looks good but runs bad.
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>>14295950
Well fixed up it will be worth at least 12,000 USD. So that is a lot of money to refresh the interior and exterior. Being that the car was free this is actually an investment.
>>14295940
bmwsareunreliable.meme
e36s won't die.
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>>14295965
>bmwsareunreliable.meme

Seriously. Before I the E36 I had an E30. This was the odometer when I sold it. I'm a firm believer in cheap high mileage beater BMWs. Both of these cars are daily drivers, never let me down.
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>>14295965
>>14295977
the only thing that will kill an old BMW is overheating, and if you refresh the entire cooling system every once in a while you'll be fine.
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>>14295986
or just replace all the shitty plastic bmw cooling components with aftermarket metal pieces.
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>>14295965
Totally. I have all the tools already to fix everything myself, including the paint tools. I'd only sell it for the down payment on an M235i. Supposedly they've recaptured that compact solid performance fun of the E36 M3 but with modern technology.
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>>14296026
>M235i
>An "M" car
Its cool but anon it is not a real M car. Don't be fooled by BMWs marketing.
Buy an M coupe anon. Used. Appreciating asset.
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>>14296049
I know it's not a real M car, but the handling and performance pretty much makes it one, though the M2 is suppose to debut at the Detroit Autoshow this year.

The M Coupes/Z4s are cool but I like having a back seat.
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>>14296049
They're going for 25k near me. Not really appreciation.
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>>14296067
Buy a 1M then. Seriously. Your resale will thank you.
>>14296071
I ain't goona lie the east coast and so cal is crazy. Where I live these cars are crazy valuable.
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>>14296082
A 1M or 135is (pretty much the same car) are tempting, I just don't see them in a manual anywhere. Not that I'm looking hard right now, the idea of buying a new or newer BMW is floating around my head.
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>>14296109
The 1m and 135 are very different. The m has wider track, a more agressive suspension set up, more power, better exhaust, and probably some more goodies im forgetting. They're both great cars but the price difference is more than justified and 135 are already depreciated significantly 12-13k near me while 1m literally appreciated from the gate.
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>>14296125
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-1-Series-1M-/252257789331?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3abbbc6593:g:en4AAOSwa-dWnoGr&item=252257789331

I see. I think I creamed my pants a little.
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>>14296109
an m1 will pay for itself providing you don't crash it.
look at it like that and why wouldn't you?
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Posting my e36. Got her about 9 years ago. Pic is from a while ago but she's just as clean now. 99 with 130k on the clock.
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>>14295279
I'd go for a hardtop 135, or wait a year for the majority of depreciation to hit that Miata.
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>>14295279
E90 four door 3-series as a DD, NA Miata as a weekend car.
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>>14296278
This. 135s are going for 12k near me. I wouldn't drop double that on a miata.
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>>14296294
Why would you dd a faster car than your weekender?
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>>14295279
The BM any day. Only an idiot would buy The MX-5
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>>14295279
The Miata has the same 0-60 as a 1998 Accord. The 135i is a precision driving machine.
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>proper sports car vs a shit-tier supreme gentleman rwd econobox

why is this even a question
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>>14295279
On one hand you have a sportscar on the other a 2l fagmobile. How do you even need to ask when even the slowbaru twins piss on the Miata by 2.2 seconds a lap?
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>>14296310
A weekend car isn't just about speed. A S63 AMG is faster than just about everything but wouldn't exactly make a good weekend car.

>>14296333
>The 135i is a precision driving machine.
So is the Miata

I'd take the 135 out of the two (and I'm a Miata owner) but I'd prefer a Z4 35is because I like the gay ones
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>>14296350
>all this buyers remorse
kekeke
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>>14296447
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>>14296450
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2016-mazda-mx-5-vs-2015-subaru-brz-comparison/
>1:29.91 for the MX-5, 1:31.27 for the BRZ.
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>>14296454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDYaSwd4mmk
>miata wins this head 2 head
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>>14296305
Around here they are ~20k, and all autos
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>>14296435
>S63 wouldn't make a good weekend car
Tell that to half of Miami
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>>14297163
Shame
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>>14295798
/o/ is literally characterized by car stereotypes rather than actual data and consumer reports
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>>14296447
>>14296450
>>14296454
>>14296471
bump
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>>14295279
IS THAT EVEN A QUESTION?

PITTO KURU IS THE ANSWER.
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I fucking love this car, traded my BMW in for it.
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>>14301103
OP here, I bought the Miata today. Almost that exact car. Gray Club with the Brembo package.

I did go drive the 135i first but it just wasn't for me.
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>>14296350
I love watching the butthurt panic from Miata fanbois as they rush to cherry-pick laptimes where the Mazda is .1 of a second faster than a car on prius tires whenever someone posts that image. I can't believe how insecure they must be in their choice of car.
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>>14302399
Good choice mate, I'm sure you aren't disappointed. I've never liked miata's before this one.
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>>14302830
>lol i trol you

is that what you say everynight to yourself to cope up with the buyers remorse?
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>>14295472
It's a superior to 4chan because everything doesn't disappear after a day or so and there's less shitflinging.

That being said, there is a reason the le reddit meme was created...
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