What's a good AWD/4x4 used car/SUV? I have a budget of about $6,000. I was looking at older Outbacks but I'm scared to death of the headgasket issues. I looked at Jeep Cherokee XJ's but the gas mileage isn't too great.
A blazer. S10 for gas, k5 for 4x4 capabilities.
Beware of rust with the k5, and beware the spider unit in the s10 (won't cause catastrophic issue, just loss of power/mileage)
Have owned both, loved both. Currently daily s10 blazer.
and the sparkplugs
and the timing belt
and all the bushings
and HVAC system
and basically 5 grand worth of shit
old subarus are money pits and not as reliable as their legend would have people believe
It's all of the engines, and that first guy was absolutely right about the gaskets. No matter the engine, they all fucking leak. Some of them have problems with burning oil too. I think it's just the stupid engine design. I4 is better if you're looking for something simple and reliable.
I was in your shoes about a year and a half ago. Im an electrical lineman, so I NEED to get to work at any time, espically during a blizzard ( like the one we are getting on fri/sat/sun )
I considered subarus, mostly outbacks and the other lesbian-mobile looking things, but the cheap ones are all pretty dodgy, and the good ones are expensive.
I decided really, anything full AWD isnt going to get great gas milage, so better to go with a part time 4x4 truck or SUV. I chose to look at american models, since they are cheaper to buy, cheaper to gets parts for, and arguably the same or better mechanical reliability and performance.
I chose a 2006 Ford Ranger 3.0 5 speed manual 4x4.
-The 3.0 is gutless, but it will basically run forever. No headgasket issues like the 4.0
-The 5 speed is much more reliable than the auto trans
-I wanted a bed for gear and stuff like my motorcycles, otherwise I would have looked at explorers or chevy tahoes and their ilk. Oh and I looked into XJs too ( I owned one years ago, great machines), but they are all getting up there in years, so its tough to find one that you can trust mechanically.
Reliability, as in, does the car start every morning and get me to work, was my main deciding factor.
i did look at some Ranger XLT's but i have no use for a pick up truck. i suppose i could buy a shell though
thanks for the input~!
Yes and when that happens 100K miles from now I'll buy another cheap winter beater.
In terms of Cherokee XJ's, is this a good deal?
A see a bit of rust and a dent but that's about it. Can these things take me on the road without me having to worry about shit?
Oh yeah, and I also looked into modern jeeps, and decided that they all seem to be true garbage, based on what I see. Jeep died in like 1997 as far as I am concerned.
I would really consider Ford and Chevy SUVs then, as new as you can afford one in good condition. Go for the jap SUVs if you can find one that cheap, but you likely wont.
1st or 2nd gen would probably suit your wants, needs, and price. They all came with 4 cylinders, 1st gen were available with a manual tranny.
I'm assuming you live in North America? Otherwise, international models got diesel options and 2nd gens also had manual tranny as an option. If you're in America or Canada, it was auto for most of its life.
3rd gens are probably the high point for the vehicle, they came with a fairly decent 2.4L I4, or an optional 3.5L assraping V6 with 269hp. V6 models are pretty coveted and wouldn't be in your price range, though. 2.4L is decent, base model comes very well equipped but it has a longer wheelbase than 2nd and 1st gens. Something to consider if you're looking for a smallish SUV.
Cargo space is decent in all of them, especially when you drop the seats. 1st and 2nd gen also have a ton of mods available, lots of people use them for rally and offroad.
You don't HAVE to be from the South, it would just make more sense. I guess people fuck their cousins in Jersey too.
Nah m8 you'll be fucking dead because the engine will explode while you're doing 120 on the freeway and you'll buck over the center median into the face of an 18-wheeler and explode in a hellish disaster of cheap japanese plastics and frail manlet bits.
Oi ya got me m8. Better just kill myself now.
With any type of aggressive tire they will be hard pressed to get stuck. I NEVER got mine stuck in the snow, even off road in the snow. And in mud I only got it stuck when I did something stupid.
I once pulled my buddies 1990 range rover out of the mud when he got stuck.
This one looks pretty decent. Thoughts? Only one in town that really fits my price range
This one as well but it's listed as fwd
So you think it'd be wise to check it out? How's the highway ride?
And for that price that's not bad at all as long as there isn't some shit wrong with it the dealer isn't telling me about
First one looks promising, second one is probably no good. For one thing, there's a disturbing lack of photographs. Probably something they're trying to hide. Secondly, it's only 2WD, so why bother? These vehicles are really only worth owning in 4WD, the system on them is great.
>So you think it'd be wise to check it out? And for that price that's not bad at all as long as there isn't some shit wrong with it the dealer isn't telling me about
Sure, that isnt bad for a dealer price IIRC, ask jeepfags, I dont know an XJs going rate anymore.
>How's the highway ride?
If the suspension is worn out, not great. Some of them get death wobbles if certain bushings are worn. Either way, its not something you are going to feel comfortable driving 90mph in believe me. Its no BMW.
But for the money, they are probably the best 4x4 vehicle you can get. Just getting old, so make sure you get a good one, and be ready to have to fix it if it breaks.
I personally wasnt willing to risk getting something from the 90s, because being on time every morning without calling out is pretty big in my profession. But if its not like that for you, go for it.
Cool. Might go check it out tomorrow after work and give it a spin.
Now the real question: if I decide on this RAV4, how in the hell do I make it look like the pics you posted? Looks like a damn beast.
You'll have to do some shopping around for that stuff, arbusa.com has a lot of rally stuff. King Springs and Old Man Emu make/made lift kits for 1st and 2nd gens, could see if they're still available.
Probably wouldn't be cheap to get it to look EXACTLY like the rally cars. Keep in mind, they have thousands in performance mods too. Exhaust, intake, sometimes turbo'd. If you're not as concerned with that stuff, and just want to give it a bit more height and strength, I'd estimate $2000-3000 to fully outfit it. Unless you can do some of the installation yourself, then it'd be less.
Depends how much you want to change it, really.
I have an 03 awd one, but boy it is slow to accelerate.
I was in your same situation, looking at Outbacks and Imprezzas but just gave up eventually and settled on the Matrix. Though I wish I looked at Suzuki Swifts a little bit more.
>tfw you will never hoon a modded RAV4 through the backroads of Mt. Hood with a qt3.14 navigator
what are common issues to look out for in subaru wagons?
specifically legacy and forester wagons?
because it's a throwaway car, the kind you buy before committing a felony that can be burned/tossed into a river without any care
but which can be used prior to the crime without an active APB, like a stolen vehicle
i think it's just the shitty headgaskets and the fact that the entire engine is lying on its side
gravity will take over eventually
Blazer, tahoe, ranger suv counterpart i forgot the name in .4wd or even 2wd with a locking diff will get you anywhere. Plus you save a lot of fucking money, as they can be found for less than $4k
I have a 20 year old 323 that doesn't leak a drop, and still goes 5,000km between every oil change without an issue.
Subaru engines are fine for the first 7-10 years, after that they're a write off.
Dude these are both fucking SHIT. Tahoes are horrible vehicles that are notoriously unreliable. Blazers aren't as shitty, but they're still pretty shitty.
>Ranger SUV counterpart
Literally wat. How the fuck are you recommending shit when you don't even know what you're recommending?
Pls just go you cancerous child.
Reliable? It'll run until it rusts away
The highway ride is stiff, not horrible, but it's a wagon/compact SUV so it's not going to be as great as a wagon wagon.
I feel like the pre-97s are put together a little better, but who knows. I own a 99 and the interior isn't great by any means, but it's utilitarian, and it'll work. I've never personally had any rattles or squeaks.
Teenager: the post.
Only a fucking idiot teen faggot would try to argue that Tahoes are good vehicles; they've always been mechanical nightmares. Always. Anyone who has owned one will tell you this.
You're full of shit kid. Go to bed.
>good vehicle by any measure
Hahahahahahaha holy fuck now I wonder if he's actually just trolling.
They are extremely easy to work on, and dead reliable. Many of them have been flogged their entire life, and will still go for 250k easy. I've got 205k and I don't burn a drop of oil (just leak it). It starts right up on these nippy 5* days and runs like a champ, just give it a little bit to warm up.
is right, it's not reassuring on the highway. i do 80 comfortably, but any more cuts into my empeegees too far. Then again, i've taken good care of the suspension.
I've run my 04 ranger to 250k miles with no major problems, id call that pretty fucking reliable