What's a good AWD/4x4 used car/SUV? I have a budget of about

cherokee, gas mileage isn't that bad if you get a 5 speed with the straight 6

>>14280708

I'll be needing to make 500 mile trips every two weeks plus some in town. Reliable enough for that? Also, how's the highway drive? Loud and rattles?

Toyota Matrix

subaru

>>14280708
>manual
>inline 6
>4x4
>thinking he'll get this lucky

A blazer. S10 for gas, k5 for 4x4 capabilities.
Beware of rust with the k5, and beware the spider unit in the s10 (won't cause catastrophic issue, just loss of power/mileage)
Have owned both, loved both. Currently daily s10 blazer.

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Toyota RAV4 is the correct answer here.

CRV A SHIT.

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>>14280702
Bam!

>>14280917
all ot takes is patience and a quick look through cl a few times per day

>>14280945

he said he wants something reliable you assface

$5000 Subaru and immediately replace the head gasket

>>14280983

>those blurred wheels

How fucking fast was that nigger going when they took the picture?

>hold the fuck on we're gonna get some air!

>>14280996

and the sparkplugs
and the timing belt
and all the bushings
and HVAC system
and basically 5 grand worth of shit

old subarus are money pits and not as reliable as their legend would have people believe

>>14280702
For what, exactly? Off road? Fire roads? Camping shit?

>>14281010

Camping, road trips, maybe off road if that's where life takes me

>>14280983

My neighbor has an old rust bucket Tercel he's been driving since I was a baby boy

>>14280989
Both are reliable you dip.

>>14281028

10 years isn't that long to be driving a car, especially a Toyota.

>>14281006

Is that just the 2.5 l engine? I see lots of nice looking older Subies but they all have that same engine

>>14281030

>old crusty Chevrolet shitbucket
>reliable

Fucking lol, S10s are objectively unreliable you shit covered dildo.

Please go back to fucking your cousin.

>>14281032

xDDD

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>>14281037

It's all of the engines, and that first guy was absolutely right about the gaskets. No matter the engine, they all fucking leak. Some of them have problems with burning oil too. I think it's just the stupid engine design. I4 is better if you're looking for something simple and reliable.

>>14281038
Tell me why none of the 5 chevys I've owned were unreliable then?

>>14281051

Same reason you've never gotten your cousin pregnant: luck.

>>14280996

TFW I paid $2800 For a one owner 98 Outback legacy with 120K miles on the body and 20K on the motor.

You just have to look faggot.

>>14281050

Damn that's a bummer

Any other good alternatives to Subaru? Any particular years of RAV4's? I like to hoon on dirt and winter roads too

Get the bug eye wrx. Fun, fast, reliable.

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>>14281032

>>14281061

enjoy a 5k repair bill down the line

>>14280702
I was in your shoes about a year and a half ago. Im an electrical lineman, so I NEED to get to work at any time, espically during a blizzard ( like the one we are getting on fri/sat/sun )

I considered subarus, mostly outbacks and the other lesbian-mobile looking things, but the cheap ones are all pretty dodgy, and the good ones are expensive.

I decided really, anything full AWD isnt going to get great gas milage, so better to go with a part time 4x4 truck or SUV. I chose to look at american models, since they are cheaper to buy, cheaper to gets parts for, and arguably the same or better mechanical reliability and performance.

I chose a 2006 Ford Ranger 3.0 5 speed manual 4x4.

-The 3.0 is gutless, but it will basically run forever. No headgasket issues like the 4.0

-The 5 speed is much more reliable than the auto trans

-I wanted a bed for gear and stuff like my motorcycles, otherwise I would have looked at explorers or chevy tahoes and their ilk. Oh and I looked into XJs too ( I owned one years ago, great machines), but they are all getting up there in years, so its tough to find one that you can trust mechanically.

Reliability, as in, does the car start every morning and get me to work, was my main deciding factor.

>>14281067

https://omaha.craigslist.org/ctd/5372950373.html

like this?

>>14281074

i did look at some Ranger XLT's but i have no use for a pick up truck. i suppose i could buy a shell though

thanks for the input~!

>>14281055
So because I drive Chevy, I must be a cousin-fucking southerner?
Because the jersey Shore is so south, right?

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>>14281070

Yes and when that happens 100K miles from now I'll buy another cheap winter beater.

In terms of Cherokee XJ's, is this a good deal?

https://lincoln.craigslist.org/ctd/5379096637.html

A see a bit of rust and a dent but that's about it. Can these things take me on the road without me having to worry about shit?

>>14281074
Oh yeah, and I also looked into modern jeeps, and decided that they all seem to be true garbage, based on what I see. Jeep died in like 1997 as far as I am concerned.

>>14281081
I would really consider Ford and Chevy SUVs then, as new as you can afford one in good condition. Go for the jap SUVs if you can find one that cheap, but you likely wont.

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>>14281066

1st or 2nd gen would probably suit your wants, needs, and price. They all came with 4 cylinders, 1st gen were available with a manual tranny.

I'm assuming you live in North America? Otherwise, international models got diesel options and 2nd gens also had manual tranny as an option. If you're in America or Canada, it was auto for most of its life.

3rd gens are probably the high point for the vehicle, they came with a fairly decent 2.4L I4, or an optional 3.5L assraping V6 with 269hp. V6 models are pretty coveted and wouldn't be in your price range, though. 2.4L is decent, base model comes very well equipped but it has a longer wheelbase than 2nd and 1st gens. Something to consider if you're looking for a smallish SUV.

Cargo space is decent in all of them, especially when you drop the seats. 1st and 2nd gen also have a ton of mods available, lots of people use them for rally and offroad.

>>14281084

You don't HAVE to be from the South, it would just make more sense. I guess people fuck their cousins in Jersey too.

>>14281087

Nah m8 you'll be fucking dead because the engine will explode while you're doing 120 on the freeway and you'll buck over the center median into the face of an 18-wheeler and explode in a hellish disaster of cheap japanese plastics and frail manlet bits.

>>14280730
Perfect choice. Those fuckers stick around forever and are perfect in size.

>>14281112
You just jelly you're not manly enough to own a Chevy, eh?
Its okay, maybe your balls will drop one day, friend.

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>>14281112

Oi ya got me m8. Better just kill myself now.

>>14281120

...but chevys are driven exclusively by small-dicked manlets

also pls stop shitposting the quality of posts is extremely important on 4chan

>>14281088
With any type of aggressive tire they will be hard pressed to get stuck. I NEVER got mine stuck in the snow, even off road in the snow. And in mud I only got it stuck when I did something stupid.

I once pulled my buddies 1990 range rover out of the mud when he got stuck.

Subaru Outback ffs I just bought one and its titties in the snow provided you have good tires

>>14281098

https://lincoln.craigslist.org/ctd/5371440895.html

This one looks pretty decent. Thoughts? Only one in town that really fits my price range

https://lincoln.craigslist.org/ctd/5370740280.html

This one as well but it's listed as fwd

>>14281131
>projecting

>>14281132

So you think it'd be wise to check it out? How's the highway ride?

And for that price that's not bad at all as long as there isn't some shit wrong with it the dealer isn't telling me about

>>14281131

nah dude i drive 100 chev my dik is larger

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>>14281139

First one looks promising, second one is probably no good. For one thing, there's a disturbing lack of photographs. Probably something they're trying to hide. Secondly, it's only 2WD, so why bother? These vehicles are really only worth owning in 4WD, the system on them is great.

>>14281156
>So you think it'd be wise to check it out? And for that price that's not bad at all as long as there isn't some shit wrong with it the dealer isn't telling me about

Sure, that isnt bad for a dealer price IIRC, ask jeepfags, I dont know an XJs going rate anymore.

>How's the highway ride?
If the suspension is worn out, not great. Some of them get death wobbles if certain bushings are worn. Either way, its not something you are going to feel comfortable driving 90mph in believe me. Its no BMW.


But for the money, they are probably the best 4x4 vehicle you can get. Just getting old, so make sure you get a good one, and be ready to have to fix it if it breaks.

I personally wasnt willing to risk getting something from the 90s, because being on time every morning without calling out is pretty big in my profession. But if its not like that for you, go for it.

>>14281023
Just get a Subaru or a RAV-4 or something.

>>14281207
>and be ready to have to fix it if it breaks.
But if it does, cleetus the redneck can do so for $500 and a trip to vatozone.

>>14281205

Cool. Might go check it out tomorrow after work and give it a spin.

Now the real question: if I decide on this RAV4, how in the hell do I make it look like the pics you posted? Looks like a damn beast.

>>14281207

I'm not really mechanically inclined but I heard XJ's are easy to work on. This true? My main worry is it breaking down on the interstate between Nowhereville and Shitfuckistain

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>>14281252

You'll have to do some shopping around for that stuff, arbusa.com has a lot of rally stuff. King Springs and Old Man Emu make/made lift kits for 1st and 2nd gens, could see if they're still available.

Probably wouldn't be cheap to get it to look EXACTLY like the rally cars. Keep in mind, they have thousands in performance mods too. Exhaust, intake, sometimes turbo'd. If you're not as concerned with that stuff, and just want to give it a bit more height and strength, I'd estimate $2000-3000 to fully outfit it. Unless you can do some of the installation yourself, then it'd be less.

Depends how much you want to change it, really.

>>14281267
XJs are crap that got treated like crap. They are NOT comfortable, you'll hate it on a long trip.

>>14280730
I have an 03 awd one, but boy it is slow to accelerate.

I was in your same situation, looking at Outbacks and Imprezzas but just gave up eventually and settled on the Matrix. Though I wish I looked at Suzuki Swifts a little bit more.

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>>14281297
>>14281252

>tfw you will never hoon a modded RAV4 through the backroads of Mt. Hood with a qt3.14 navigator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhD7Fm4QSbs

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what are common issues to look out for in subaru wagons?

specifically legacy and forester wagons?

>>14281343

faggots in the driver seat

>>14281343

From what I can tell, head gasket issues that are expensive to repair

I can get a 2002 Subaru Outback with surface rust and a busted tail light for $836 canadian dollars. Should i do it?

>>14280702
4runner

>>14281438

Are you planning to do a drive-by?

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>>14281450

>4Runner gas mileage

>>14281453
Bitch maybe? I dont get it

>>14281050

I have a 97 Outback and it leaks oil at an insane rate.

What exactly makes these Flat engines so weak?

I was just assuming the valve covers. I hope it's not a head gasket.

>>14281450

too bulky and it gets 0 mpg

>>14281474

because it's a throwaway car, the kind you buy before committing a felony that can be burned/tossed into a river without any care

but which can be used prior to the crime without an active APB, like a stolen vehicle

>>14281505

i think it's just the shitty headgaskets and the fact that the entire engine is lying on its side

gravity will take over eventually

>>14281505
>I have a 19 year old car that leaks oil
>omfg why is this car so shit

>>14281715
I didn't say the car was bad, I love it. It just leaks oil more than any car I've ever seen.

Every single car I've ever had/driven has been pre-1999.

>>14280702
Blazer, tahoe, ranger suv counterpart i forgot the name in .4wd or even 2wd with a locking diff will get you anywhere. Plus you save a lot of fucking money, as they can be found for less than $4k

>>14281715

I have a 20 year old 323 that doesn't leak a drop, and still goes 5,000km between every oil change without an issue.

Subaru engines are fine for the first 7-10 years, after that they're a write off.

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>>14281730

>Blazer
>Tahoe

Dude these are both fucking SHIT. Tahoes are horrible vehicles that are notoriously unreliable. Blazers aren't as shitty, but they're still pretty shitty.

Also

>Ranger SUV counterpart

Literally wat. How the fuck are you recommending shit when you don't even know what you're recommending?

Pls just go you cancerous child.

>>14281726
Fix it

>>14281758
I was just at a loss nigger relax, andthey are NOT bad cars you're just a meming faggot.

>>14281730
>ranger suv
its the fucking EXPLORER
its probably more well known than the fucking ranger itself

>>14280726
Reliable? It'll run until it rusts away
The highway ride is stiff, not horrible, but it's a wagon/compact SUV so it's not going to be as great as a wagon wagon.
I feel like the pre-97s are put together a little better, but who knows. I own a 99 and the interior isn't great by any means, but it's utilitarian, and it'll work. I've never personally had any rattles or squeaks.

>>14281784

Teenager: the post.

Only a fucking idiot teen faggot would try to argue that Tahoes are good vehicles; they've always been mechanical nightmares. Always. Anyone who has owned one will tell you this.

You're full of shit kid. Go to bed.

>>14281791

>Explorer
>reliable
>good vehicle by any measure

Hahahahahahaha holy fuck now I wonder if he's actually just trolling.

>>14281772
Thanks, anon, that never occurred to me.

>>14281808
So silverados are shit too? Because they're the exact same cars just different bodies

>>14281267
They are extremely easy to work on, and dead reliable. Many of them have been flogged their entire life, and will still go for 250k easy. I've got 205k and I don't burn a drop of oil (just leak it). It starts right up on these nippy 5* days and runs like a champ, just give it a little bit to warm up.

>>14281207
is right, it's not reassuring on the highway. i do 80 comfortably, but any more cuts into my empeegees too far. Then again, i've taken good care of the suspension.

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>>14281808
I've run my 04 ranger to 250k miles with no major problems, id call that pretty fucking reliable

>>14281850
>ranger =/= explorer

>>14281858
how?
they were literally on the same frame for the first 10 years of explorer production

https://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/5399607478.html
Damn this looks nice for a winter beater. Wonder what's wrong with it.

>>14281891
>https://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/5399607478.html

Take that 3k and get an XJ bitch

>>14281735
Not really. Although you do have to put new rocker cover gaskets on them occasionally

http://www.marinamitsubishi.com/exotic-used/Mitsubishi/2009-Mitsubishi-Outlander-050cfb870a0e0adf153af8902333a2f9.htm
Should I pull the trigger?
inb4 cvt

>>14282030

Buy an XJ for 2k and use the 6k for new tires and a laptop

>>14280917
Kek, I have two XJ's.

>Both manual
>Both I6
>Both 4x4
>Both 2 door.

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>>14280702
Saabaru