I just found this gem
Nah, this is /v/ trying to /o/.
meh. id offer like $1300. the 980 is nice but I dont see where that high end ass i7 is going to to take you for gaming/streaming or anything most people that arent already inclined to require that kind of power dont already have
I've tried both. I ran Western Digital for a few years, that thing was a brick. The last 2TB Seagate I used failed as well after a year or so. lol fucking money pits, I used Maxtors for years and they still work as of a couple days ago.
I've been running a Toshiba 512 SSD since 2013, it's been the best SSD I've had to date. I have another WD 1TB HDD, but I have no idea how long that one will last now.
>only one CPU
>no SSD RAID array
>no custom loop liquid cooling
>can't stick to a color scheme
Gigabyte's X58, X79, Z97, and X99 boards are trash. Wish I would have done research before wasting time buying and returning the X58 board I bought before going with Supermicro.
>$1900 of used parts
>PSU is over-powered and over priced
>a 3TB HDD as the only drive
>lists a bunch of shit that comes free with other hardware, like video connection adaptors
>USB 2.0 wifi
>still asking $1800
>a $90 air cooler
Holy shit, it's just as bad as a car on craigslist. I literally just priced an equivalent computer for $1660, all new hardware and Rise of the Tomb Raider for free.
Go home, please.
nah /g/ is too stupid to buy good shit, its typical of them to waste money on ddr4 and get a weaker gpu instead of going for bang for buck, skylake is just like them too
but then again there's this>>14265523
/g/ would definitely most assuredly not hold w10
so lets just say this guy is the worst of both worlds, pretty fucking funny
Hitachi is typically cheaper and they have one of the lowest failure rates. For example think of how many consoles have sold in the last two generations, Xbox and PlayStation used hgst and the amount of hard drive failures in total were very low
is hitachi underrated as fuck? pretty much every single source on failure rates I ever read puts them as lowest yet no one recommends them
its always wdblue or some shit that gets recommended
I still have the four Hitachis out of all my Xboxs, they're still good. Once the WD that I have dies, that's the way I planned to go. Plus, I've noticed WD's speed has decreased since this last summer, so that can't be good.
They have to fair better than what I have. It's slower now, but wasn't always that fast.
gigabyte offers the fastest stock cards considering overclocking your graphics card is pointless thanks to gpu boost 2.0
not to mention the looks and clever use of leds
Hitachi deskstar is only slightly slower than the seagage sshd. Their speed is really good compared to normal platter drives. I would only buy a Hitachi HDD, personally; never would've known how good they were but between a Walmart prebuilt and an Xbox 360 hard drive lasting me 12 years its hard not to be impressed
Maybe one day you can build a workstation like an adult and stop worrying about plastic covered "gaming" motherboards.
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I made this a while back. I'm quite positive i could get his setup today or comparable for about 1k
>op posts gaming computer for car
>gaming motherboards confirmed bad to use for gaming workstations are better
stick to cars buddy you're not impressing anyone with the hack job water cooling you did by dismantling a h100 and adding different tubing and or a radiator that the pump is not designed to work with on a platform that isn't meant for gaming which is the literal point of this thread
Anyone else wish they had more friends in real life that were into computers and cars? I was into computers first, and then cars after.
Yeah used this thing is only worth $900-1000 from OP. There's a limited market of people who will buy used computers this expensive too who wouldn't just built it themselves or be willing to pay a tad more for someone else to build it.
>someone has a stock Scion TC
>puts stickers of shit characters on it
Turns out it was my friend's boss's car, aka the manager of the arcade that I play wangan midnight at. Too bad he has shit taste.
>implying /v/ can even computer
>majority of /g/ is actually windows 7 & 10
try actually going on /g/
>pump is not designed to work with
Hence it being a custom loop. Believe it or not, there is no certification that pumps or radiators have to go through in order to work with one another. One pumps the coolant, the other dissipates heat from the coolant. A block/pump combo adds redundancy and simplifies the loop while saving money. It's a win/win no matter how you cut it.
>platform that isn't meant for gaming
Please tell me how painting a PCB a color other than green and adding plastic covers improves gaming performance more than having eight cores for an application that's designed to take advantage of eight cores. Performance per dollar is what I'm looking at. For an 8 core "gaming oriented" solution you'd be looking at a Core i7 5960X and an LGA 2011-V3 board. $900+ for the CPU, around $250 for a decent motherboard, and 16GB DDR4 kits are running around $100. That's $1250. I'm $330 into Motherboard, CPUs, and RAM. That MIGHT get you a used 4770k that's been OCed to hell and half decent motherboard, but no RAM and you're stuck with half as many cores.
I don't encode video and 1080p is is for plebs.
>cooler master V8 garbage heatsink
>some massive single monitor
it's not a very good build, honestly.
>there's actually people out there repurposing old xeons
makes my dick throb.
Repurposed two Xeons before this build, two Opterons before that, and I'm about to repurpose two low power Xeons for a home server.
> Keyboard, mobitor and mouse not include.
nigga i just want a computer for browsing the net and storing my photos, who the fuck needs those crappy lights and some bits and pieces i've never heard of
i can give him my impala's rear bumper for that
>Hence it being a custom loop. Believe it or not, there is no certification that pumps or radiators have to go through in order to work with one another.
believe it or not the pump was designed to flow water through the radiator it comes with, adding a bigger one will give issues and is just generally retarded to do to a $100 cpu cooler
>One pumps the coolant, the other dissipates heat from the coolant.
putting a pump on top of the cpu block where ALL of the heat is made is stupid. It's always been stupid. Adding another point of failure in a cooling system for little to no gain to worse in some cases for what? it to look cool when you don't even look at the thing most of the time anyways
>Please tell me how painting a PCB a color other than green and adding plastic covers improves gaming performance more than having eight cores for an application that's designed to take advantage of eight cores.
please tell me how a workstation workload is similiar to a gaming workload. Workstations generally have more cores because the workload is lighter that way. In a gaming scenario a gaming mobo with a desktop cpu is going to out preform workstations all day. Not to mention most of the workstation cpus are locked and produce an enormous amount of heat and power drain
>For an 8 core "gaming oriented" solution
No one with a brain wants an 8 core gaming oriented solution because no games are using 8 cores, most dont even use 4.
>I don't encode video and 1080p is is for plebs.
Then what's the point in having a workstation?
it seems you fell for the more cores better experience meme
its because he fell for the skylake/ddr4 meme
FOR FUCKING GAMES nonetheless, coulda had a 4790k and a 980ti for the money, with a cooler big enough to keep the 4790k at stable 4.8ghz
>No one with a brain wants an 8 core gaming oriented solution because no games are using 8 cores
Fallout 4 does
Imho a 4690k is more than enough for gaming but if you can afford the minor extra the 4790k is not bad in any way
Granted games that you would expect to run better on the i7 run worse lol (eg arma3) and the ones that you'd expect to run worse on i7 run better (the already mentioned fo4)
>believe it or not the pump was designed to flow water through the radiator it comes with, adding a bigger one will give issues and is just generally retarded to do to a $100 cpu cooler
>two H100 pumps
>radiator 1.5x larger than an H100 radiator
I'll let you do the math there...
And I paid around half that for each of the AIOs.
>putting a pump on top of the cpu block where ALL of the heat is made is stupid.
And all of that heat is quickly carried away via the coolant. That's literally the entire point of the liquid cooling system.
So yes, if BOTH pumps fail outright, they'll be exposed to a lot of heat if the CPUs are being stressed. But at that point I doubt it will much matter.
>please tell me how a workstation workload is similiar to a gaming workload.
By stressing 8 cores.
>In a gaming scenario a gaming mobo with a desktop cpu is going to out preform workstations all day.
Because workstations generally don't have gaming GPUs.
>Not to mention most of the workstation cpus are locked and produce an enormous amount of heat and power drain
The chipset is locked so I could care less about the multiplier being locked by the CPUs. 3.2Ghz is fine and turbo will boost up to around 3.47 on 16 threads. They're 95w TDP and idle around 3-4 C over ambient.
>No one with a brain wants an 8 core gaming oriented solution because no games are using 8 cores
It's not 2008 anymore. GTA V is optimized for 8 cores.
>Then what's the point in having a workstation?
Things other than encoding video. Encoding video is the go-to activity for people that don't know anything about workstations to bring up because it's the only one they know of.
I'd say early 2020s
The push for 8 cores has just begun after all, but expect more and more titles to have a required high end i7 for the ''advanced'' physics effects that ran on a e8400 in crysis a decade ago.......
Or replace physics with some other gimmick bcuz that's gpu based nowadays, but either way you get the point
>fallout 4 literally cannot get stable 60 fps on a 980ti at ultra
>a game that barely looks better than fo3 from 2008
Makes me sad but such is gaming nowadays, and its not even better with consoles
Granted between my 3 platforms I got enough old shit to keep me busy for a decade so I cant complain
>By stressing 8 cores.
>Because workstations generally don't have gaming GPUs.
clock for clock they are going to be slower, gaming workloads do not take advantage of the extras workstations have to offer and you are literally throwing out performance for more cores
> 3.2Ghz is fine and turbo will boost up to around 3.47 on 16 threads.
great 16 threads all of which is being wasted
>They're 95w TDP and idle around 3-4 C over ambient.
there is still two of them
>It's not 2008 anymore. GTA V is optimized for 8 cores.
Runs fine on dual and quad cores(provided they aren't amd) the 8 core thing is probably more centered around the babys first build who fell for the AMD FX MOAR CORES meme
>Encoding video is the go-to activity for people that don't know anything about workstations to bring up because it's the only one they know of.
GTAV runs like shit on standard ultra on anything but 4790k/980ti ++++
And if you only got 1 ti you better not even think of touching the advanced settings for the actual ultra config
Granted MFAA helps a lot, at least on my single 980/4690k, but I still have to min max some shit for best details/performance
And to think a year ago I was thinking my 4690k was futureproof
Granted people who got a 2500k/2600k on release never had any issues until now, I wonder if there will ever be an era of the flawless gaming CPU again
>muh interest rates
>muh muh muh
I dont get it, its an old corolla, why not just put the money together to outright buy it?
Or is this not allowed in america?
>cores still being stressed
Workload difference makes literally zero difference between Xeon and i7. This has been proven multiple times. The Xeons aren't designed to sacrifice gaming performance in favor of a different workload type because there is no single workload type they're designed for. Clock for clock, Xeons perform the same as comparable i7s under the same workloads.
>there is still two of them
And? You were arguing that the CPUs run hot and draw tons of power. They don't.
>3970X has a 150w TDP
>most of the i7 lineup is 95-130w
I'm averaging around 55 FPS with a 780 @ 4K with a mix of high and very high settings. Turning a few up to ultra has minimal impact but I turned them down for flight school.
>And to think a year ago I was thinking my 4690k was futureproof
It's not even hyper threaded, bro.
If you don't mind using hardware a few years old and not overclocking the CPU you can get a lot more bang for your buck out of old server/workstation hardware. I'm $60 into my CPUs and my motherboard was less than many of the "gaming" motherboards of the same era.
I've been using dual CPU boards since before memes were a meme.
Based on the story, my guess is the neckbeard got the car that died so he could work at target. That car dies, his either father or mother has to drive him to his job until he gets new car so his dad goes out to get a car for his son because he's tired of driving him around, but also wants him to get a job so he can get his shit together.
Seems like a pretty good deal to me. Someone wants a decent gaming rig, but doesn't have the cash. They have a shitbox sitting in the yard not getting used. This cat has a rig, and needs that car. Make a clean swap, everybody wins.
Sounds to me like that kid was trying to be responsible. Went to college, made a bad choice. Shit happens when you have an abusive father that gets angry because you're not perfect. So he got a job, then another when the first didn't work out. He kept his expenses low, and saved some money to buy his own car, to take the burden off his parents. He got a bad deal, shit happens. Then said abusive father once again flies off the handle, berating his son for not being perfect.
So to sum up, the father is a piece of shit. The kid is trying to be responsible, but he makes mistakes because he has no one to help him.
Of course that story is complete bullshit, but still.
>Of course that story is complete bullshit, but still.
Like pretty much everything longshitposter has ever posted?
I still remember how butthurt he got when I messed with his silly polls but he detracted actual genuine votes as well because he couldnt stand his favourite car losing
>cheap upgrade from onboard audio
Unlike the Razer controllers I had which lasted about a year each, the AC1 has been running fine for most of a decade.
I'd highly recommend it if you can get it for under $40.
Does it? I mean everyone makes up a story to post on the internet for a quick laugh but when people try to build themselves an entire different persona under the guise of a trip you have to start wondering
Does the 780 have problems cooling with it? Because I got a ref 980 and shit runs hot as fuck, cant even imagine with more restricted airflow
I mean yeah, doing that means there are serious issues to be dealt with. But as far as you and I are concerned, that's all that matters. He doesn't know who we are, and the chances of us getting caught in the crossfire when he snaps are pretty slim.
The 780 runs fine. The AC1 doesn't cover the intake fan and the 700D has the 140mm fan just below blowing in cool fresh air.
I like that the layout with this board offers the PCI slot between two dual slot GPUs. With reference coolers you can run a short card in between them and still have an extra slot open below the fan for airflow.
Out of curiosity what's the highest you reach running demanding video games for a couple of hours?
I'd ask people on /v/ but they're a bunch of lying faggots trying to one up each other over who bought the better hardware, so of course they're gonna tell me it runs 40 celcius at 100% load
In my country established psychologists get paid well to laugh at rich people problems all day
That's not to say they aren't considered a meme medicine but point still stands
>Out of curiosity what's the highest you reach running demanding video games for a couple of hours?
Off the top of my head I don't even know. I don't monitor it any more because it's never given me issues.
The 480s I used to have ran a lot hotter.
>but do try everything at pure ultra
cranked everythign up to ultra that would go to ultra, everything else is at very high, still at 4K.
Without touching the advanced settings, it's choppy as hell but playable. I wouldn't want to play online with it though.
Reinstalling Fraps, I'll see how FPS and temps look with the settings up.
Why wouldn't I?
Topping out around 79-80C with a "cinematic" 24-26 fps 99% of the time.
>have 2 980 ti's in SLI and 4790k
can confirm that gta v runs like shit, with everything maxed (2x msaa and no advanced settings) get dips into 30 fps
i can max out any other game though
Expanded connectivity, extended performance ability through overclocking, the latest technology for gaming (which is exactly what you're doing), etc. Workstation and server boards aren't geared toward these things but do have a bunch of shit that is of no use to you like ECC support and Intel/Broadcom networking chipsets.
Like two full speed PCIe x16 slots? Check.
Spare PCI and PCIe slots for expansion? Check.
SSD support? Check.
RAID support? Check.
USB support? Check.
Upgrade whatever is lacking via expansion slots? Check.
Do you even know what it is you think my board doesn't have that comparable "consumer" products do have?
The workstation boards are designed to be able to handle whatever is needed regardless of what type of load it is. What type of load you're putting on the system just decides what you do with the expansion capabilities.
>extended performance ability through overclocking
IF you buy an unlocked CPU, which pulls a premium.
$30 locked Xeon
$150 locked i7
$230 unlocked i7
When you look at the price, the Xeon makes far more sense even without overclocking. You're not getting seven times more performance out of a CPU by overclocking it. Buy two Xeons, you're not getting 3.8x stock performance from overclocking the unlocked i7. Will an overclocked i7 outperform a single comparable locked Xeon? Sure. Is that worth paying seven times more for the i7? Not to me. I'd rather just buy two faster Xeons because they're cheap as shit thanks to people like you that not only have no idea how they work, but swear by your false assumptions. I want to thank you for keeping prices down for me.
>the latest technology for gaming
Like 3D audio and DX12?
That comes down to the audio hardware and GPU. A workstation board doesn't prevent you from using gaming oriented expansion cards or prevent those cards from using any of the technology they contain.
>Workstation and server boards aren't geared toward these things but do have a bunch of shit that is of no use to you like ECC support and Intel/Broadcom networking chipsets.
ECC support and an Intel networking chip aren't hurting gaming performance. Not using free features doesn't take value away from something. It would be a different story if I were paying a premium for those features, but I'm not.
Were you under the impression I was arguing price to gaming performance for two hyper threaded 12 core Xeons? $1200 each is the cheapest you're getting E5 2697 V2s
There's literally a speccy screenshot in my first post in this thread. You know, the one that got you on this already proven false "Xeons are bad for gaming" argument?
I never said they were 'bad for gaming'. I said they were pointless. You're stuck many generations behind when you could get current generation stuff for not much more than you'll pay for enterprise equipment. The name of the architecture doesn't tell me anything. You could have anything from a dual core E series to an X5690 in that family. Of course, I know you don't have anything worthwhile because even the L series quad core Westmere-EP chips will cost double what you claim to have paid for a matched pair.
Speccy shows 3.2 GHz and you already know they're locked, that leaves one X series quad core and one X series six core as possibilities. They're X5672s. I bought one for $54 shipped and one with a heatsink for $56 shipped, I then sold the heatsink for $50.
$60 into two X series hyper threaded quad core Westmere chips. The cheapest you'll find a six core desktop counterpart is generally a little over double what I've got into both chips.
Go ahead and tell me how two extra cores (which are going to be made use of) and cutting CPU cost in half is a "pointless"
>L series westmere cost $120
You can get a matched pair of L5630s (fastest L series quad) for $20. If the dual 1366 boards were cheaper that's the route I'd be going for my home server.
For $12 more I could have gotten a Pentium G3258 dual core without hyper threading. 8 cores vs 2, 16 threads vs 2. But I'd be able to brag about it being "current gen."
There's not even a modern hyper threaded quad core available under $300 new.
Actually it is worth a little bit more than $1000 USD, but the choice of components is poor. Wouldn't be surprised if he bought it pre-built or called a store and told them to build it for him. One could have saved some money and matched the performance, or spent the same amount of money and increased the performance of the components. He basically bought an apple product if you get what I mean.
well wouldn't he know more about the kid than you then and make his opinion more valid?
How does a kid with parents that are still living buy a car that's shit? Why would he not ask his father?