>these now are 40-50k
convince me to get one /o/
i think they are goddamn sexy, but thats about it
or what other car can i get with that money?
I could see spending 15-25k, but I just don't see the performance there to spend 40k+ on a car thats at least a decade old.
At 3150 pounds, they are just as heavy as a corvette, and the aftermarket that does exist (assuming you want more than 290hp in your "supercar") is small and expensive.
There are lots of other options. You could get a c6 z06 with under 60k miles for 30-35k.
A Corvette stingray
Most cehvy dealerships that specialize in corvettes like Kerbeck or Macmulkin Chevrolet have discounts on corvettes so you could get a 2016 1lt for 51,350
i had this thought the other day, if i wanted a dodge challenger would i buy a brand new one or a mind old '71? both probably around the same price, but when i get sick of it in 5 years and want something new ill probably be able to sell the '71 for close to what i paid for it, whereas id be lucky to get half my money back if i bought a new one.
thats going to make a huge difference in how awesome my next car is going to be. if i continually make bad financial decisions when purchasing cars then im going to be driving shitboxes for the rest of my life compared to what i could have been driving.
I saw one the other day
They are goddman tiny!!
Or mauve im just used to all the fat shitboxes i see every day
Do you want to enjoy reasonable handling and lack of body roll, as well as creature comforts to make for an overall better driving experience?
Or do you prefer to forgo those for nostalgia and resale value?
your biased oversimplification aside, im just trying to make the point that if you dont take these financial aspects into consideration then youll be handicapping yourself when it comes to the kind of cars youll be able to afford in the future. making a slight compromise now in order to set yourself up to be in a much better financial situation down the road could very easily pay dividends in the kind of car youll be able to purchase next time around. the old 'you can have one cookie now or two cookies later' adage.
Twin Turbo Z
With only $15k you can easily get a pristine model. It has as much potential as a Supra but is often overlooked.
> all these projections
The difference between a $50k NSX and a $50k Cayman is that 10 years and 50k miles later, one will be worth $100k and one will be worth $15k. You can still enjoy a car while it appreciates in value.
its a factor for sure, but you have to consider the trade off you are making. Its not 1:1. Do I really want to continually put off the qualities I want in a car so that the next car or the next car after that are slightly better?
i would pay to watch you die.
here let me give you an example. lets say my budget is $30k.
im torn between two cars, both cost $30k, and one has maybe 70% of what i want in a car, the other 90%. the 70% one though will retain its value much better than the other, to the point that i will get $25k when i sell it, as opposed to $15k for the other one. now, 5 years later i have an extra $10k to spend on a car. adding the trade-in value of these cars to my new $30k budget, ill have $55k instead of the $45k id have if i bought the other car.
do this a couple times and im now driving around in an m3 instead of a 328i.
People like you always suck at driving. You are all too worried about muh value and not hurting your precious investment. That doesn't leave anywhere for track days or piling on miles getting good.
Protip: Cars with more than 10k miles on them are not investments, they are liabilities.
>People like you
lol. i mod and track my car, rack up miles and drive like a maniac. dont act like you know me.
No one said you had to be the fastest. Some people prefer the enjoyment. It's still a good track car or amazing for taking out on the mountain roads. It's not always about POWAHHHH. And if it was you'd be stupid to not buy a Corvette every time since it's the best compromise of power, handling, cost, and aftermarket.
Just like the MkIV
Not really. They are just pains to work on because cramped engine bay, so people neglect it.
Handles as good if not better than the Supra.
Seems like you forget the Supra was a GT car just like the 300ZX and 3000GT. The GT-R was less of a GT car. The FD RX-7 and NSX were true sportscars.
It's naturally aspirated, it doesn't have a turbo, and it's slow because it's naturally aspirated and doesn't have a turbo.
Yes, it's just a nice way of looking at things so you don't beat yourself up over missed opportunities in life.
>Handles as good if not better than the Supra.
This is objectively wrong.
Also, they were unreliable as fuck and the VG motors are made of glass.
GTFO Nissan shill.
>Handles worse/slower around a track than the C4 Corvette and the superpigfat 3000GT
>Slow as fuck for the money
>Has an engine out of an accord/legend
And the 300ZX has one out of the Maxima. They're both good engines for the time though, so moot.
>Styling straight out of the future of 1985
This is not a negative.
lel the engine isn't even from an Accord or Legend, unless you're telling me Accords in the early 90s had 3 litre V6s that revved past 8k rpm using titanium con rods and made like 270bhp naturally aspirated
Yes, it's the same engine architecture.
Just like Chebby uses detuned and/or reduced output/displacement performance car motors in their trucks.
Just because you're in denial shill doesn't mean everyone else is.
Doesn't matter that the NSX has an accord motor that made 270hp. It still had an accord/legend motor.
Your denial is strong. Tell me more about how awesome your favorite car is with a motor right out of a fwd shitbox so I can laugh at you more.
No, I'm not a Honda shill that can recognizes that the NSX had a FWD shitbox motor. You're just so in love with this terrible car that you choose to ignore this plain and simple fact because it doesn't jive with your rosey glasses view of the NSX.
GTFO Honda shill.
Reminder, the NSX was not mid engine any more than a Corvette of Miata is "mid engine"
The engine is over the rear axle and partly behind it.
A corvette has a larger portion of it's motor between the axles than an NSX.
If the NSX is mid engine, then so is the Corvette and Miata.
You people are arguing about the stupidest shit. Who cares if it's mid engine or an Accord motor. Either way it's still a horrible buy this day in age. You can get a car much nicer and faster for less than half the price.
Jalopnik posted some shit a few years back about NSX's because they are Honda shills and dumbfucks that don't know anything abotu cars all voer the world started buying them thinking they are good cars.
Jalopnik staff just happened to have bought NSX's up in bulk before the story was published and are now laughing all the way to the bank as retards buy old slow hondas for super-inflated prices.
Give it a few years and the prices will stabilize again.
>what is "muh used car value"
People shill for out of production vehicles all the time. the sooner you can popularly affix the term "classic" to your shitbox, the more money you get for it when you sell to some idiot.
Personally I would respect the nsx, and then proceed to destroy it with my car that cost 1/3 as much while I'm nice and toasty in my heated seats and then drive through a snowstorm with my AWD while not getting lost because of my GPS, all while getting 25mpg.
>A classic car is an older automobile; the exact definition varies around the world. The common theme is of an older car with enough historical interest to be collectible and worth preserving or restoring rather than scrapping.
>Guys why would you buy the NSX when you could get a better and faster car for the money?
>Proceeds to post about how he spent $17k on running 12s and refuses to say what car he bought since it sucks
And AWD, and lower maintenance costs, and better reliability, and better gas mileage, and a million other creature comforts. All for 1/3 the price.
At least it's on topic.
So post what shitbox you drive you cuck
>more reliable than an NSX
That'll be a treat
Why not just buy a base model Impreza hatch?
Comparison of Nissan GT-R VS Impreza hatch:
>Impreza 1/8 of price new
>has more interior room
>has more storage room
>has lower maintenance costs
>is more reliable
>gets better gas mileage
>more comfortable suspension
>AWD designed for snow and shit
Conclusion: Proper enthusiast car is the Impreza
Q5 S-Line I think
So we're dealing with a VAG fanboy. Everybody go home, he's retarded. No point arguing.
Yes, if you put $10000 into it it is probably faster in a straight
In fact in order for it to get up to being 1/3 of the price of the GT-R you'd have to spend over $20,000 on it. It'd certainly be faster than the GT-R in a straight line
Old cars come with old car problems. Something will fuck up all the time unless it's modern custom works in it. Also a new car comes with a warranty sodepending on dealer free oil changes till 60k or for five years.
That's a late 2000's A4 S-tronic
The S4 of that vintage had the S4 logo on the tach and different tach scaling.
Well, A4's aren't really cheap. They just have shit resale like all german cars. And they have a nice interior.
And I would take an A4 over an NSX any day for a fun daily. You can put out 320+hp pretty easily with the 2.0T
>15% depcreciation vs 50%
What time frame are you talking about for this?
Are you forgoing 10 years of driving cars with the qualities you want so that in a decade you can drive an m3? How long do you expect THAT car to be fun and not depreciate?
>What time frame are you talking about for this?
i was going off my challenger example. so basically buying a new challenger for $30k and then selling it for $15k 5 years later, and then buying an old '71 challenger and selling it in 5 years for $25k.
but more realistically it could be applied to something like buying either a brand new base model car or a slightly used (~5 year old) higher-trim model. like a new 328i vs a used M3. both probably around the same price, but the 328i will depreciate much faster than the M3, which has already gone through a large chunk of it's depreciation. plus youre probably going to be getting more of what you want out of the older M3 at the expense of reliability.
>Are you forgoing 10 years of driving cars with the qualities you want so that in a decade you can drive an m3? How long do you expect THAT car to be fun and not depreciate?
well, yes and no. id continue this forever, driving better and better cars as my finances allowed. sure i could break the bank and get 100% of what i want at any point, and then spend the rest of my life either in the hole way over my budget, or i could forever get mostly what i want, getting better and better cars as time goes on.
if i go all in on my first car (or any car), im always going to be in a hole compared to where i could have been, and the cars in my price range will be of a lower quality. by exercising control and making good financial decisions, a car that would have normally been out of my price range could be easily affordable in time, and could well exceed my original expectations for what id want to get out of a car.
like i could always just buy and forever drive a current model 335i thinking theyre the pinnacle of automotive engineering, or by buying either a 328i or getting a used 335i first, a little further down the road i might be able to afford an m3 or m4, which id never have been able to do by taking the 'no compromise, get everything i want now' approach.
Get a stingray. People only drive NSX because they haven't driven anything else
The NSX wishes it were half as good as the stingray.
Are you making an investment or buying car? If you're making an investment, then invest in something worthwhile and not a car that you shouldn't be driving.
If you're buying a car, get something better/cheaper and enjoy it.
i know thats my point. i mean, i get that its sort of necessary due to how the quattro system works, but its still annoying.
pic is for an a6 but its the same thing on all their cars. the understeer is controlled fairly well with some suspension work but its still not ideal.
This is this shittiest bait I have ever read.
HOW IN THE FUCK WOULD YOU MOVE ANYTHING BACK ON SOMETHING AWD?????