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>All new F150s now have LCD screens
>The monstrosity that is the 2017 Super Duty is bound to have them standard as well
>All new Chevy trucks have LCD screens
>All new RAM trucks have LCD screens
>All new Toyota trucks have LCD screens

How did this happen?
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>>14245637
O beautiful for spacious skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the fruited plain!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea
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>>14245637
>mandatory backup cameras for all new vehicles
This is happening and all new cars are getting LCD touch screens to double as backup view screens.
Also, its easier for mfgrs to build 1 display and drop it all vehicles than to design a bunch of different dashboards
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>American production car regulations after 1972
Meanwhile it's still legal to sell brand new Defenders, Caterhams and Morgan Three Wheelers in Europe.
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What is your point? Technology keeps going and going and going.

If LCD screens really make you butthurt, imagine what it was like in 1985 when EFI became mandatory and no more Carburetors.
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>tfw can buy cheap utilitarian trucks

feels good to be actually free
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>>14245669
>mandatory backup cameras for all new vehicles
what the fuck
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>>14245637
What the fuck is your problem with LCDs, cunt?
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It's not the end of the world, and I am sure Kenwood, Pioneer, Sony, Alpine, Etc... will adapt as well in the future once that factory LCD screen/radio thingie in your car becomes out-dated and you need something new to connect to your phone because bluetooth gets replaced by some other technology or whatever.
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>>14245686
Carbs a shit.
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its fucking dumb.

>let me buy a new work truck
>towing, hauling, abusing
>im covered in dirt and mud and oil and grease
>lets fill a truck with sensitive electronics and touchscreens everywhere.

what fucking retard thought this would be a good idea?
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>>14245705
Theyre funner though
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>>14245712
You still think people buy these trucks for genuine productive reasons?
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>>14245712
>implying anyone bying this factory donked shitmobile uses it for its theoretical purpose
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>>14245712
Probably the same people who expect you to not be a filthy cunt in a brand new truck, dickhead.
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>>14245686
EFI = good

touchscreens = shit
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>>14245689
>accidentally spin tires at red light in rain
>forced to bribe female officer 600$

nice try m8
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>>14245721
>>14245724
i just want a new diesel that isnt some push button touch screen autotragic nigger waggon.

>>14245727
fuck you, trucks are for work
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>>14245712
When was the last time you saw a civilian pickup truck used for something work related?
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>>14245686
America! America!
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>>14245734
>things that never happened
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>>14245739
>trucks are for work
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>>14245739
>new
Sorry anon havent you heard? New cars are shit.
Get an old hilux or mazda pickup
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>>14245739
No you silly cunt, it's 2016 and modern vehicles are unreliable shit.
Any truck you want to use for work will be an older I6
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>>14245749
I'd link you to the traffic stop thread but its gone now. There were multiple ausfags complaining about dirty cops and accidentally ripping a skid.
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>>14245771
good thing I am not an ausfag then
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>>14245755
>>14245758

then i guess im stuck with a 97 3500HD forever.
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>>14245780
Fuck oath you are mate
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>>14245798
might as well have the interior stripped and replaced with bedliner instead of buying a new truck.

time for an overhaul
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>>14245771
>things that never happened
I am australian and you shouldnt believe everything you read on the internet most cops usually let you off with enough bullshitting and my life is fucked if you fine/impound/arrest me/it, other times you get ones that will actively lookout for hoons but they wont plant evidence or whatever the fuck these cunts are bullshitting about.
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>>14245815
Chandelier, candlesticks and velvet drapes?
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>>14245823
rhino liner, rubber coated heated seats with lumbar massage, fully wash down rated interior.
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>>14245842
This is more complicated than you think due to ecus, tcm, abs and tc, wiring and plugs, ect. All in the cab.
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>>14245868
didn't know mechanical diesels had an ecu.

will have to look out for it when i try to find the other stuff you mentioned.
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>>14245745
Explains why Mercedes is designing a pick up.
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>>14245947
Oh god please no..
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>>14245958
They already have several.
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>>14245637
why would i put wear on anything other than the drivetrain and bed?

it's not my fault you can't keep dirt and your own shit off the dashboard. you dumb asshole
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>>14246152
>Missing the point by over 10 yards
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>>14245637
Is there any downside to just taking it out and putting a flat piece of plastic in the hole?
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>>14246423
no it will be fine
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>>14245637
What a gay hitch.
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Ram 2500 still has a manual shift option, to my surprise
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>>14245669
>muh lives
if kids are retarded enough to stand behind a car then Darwin is doing his job
>inb4 edge
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My mom bought a new toyota a couple years back with a LCD screen/radio. When you turn the car on, the audio starts instantly but it takes several seconds for the electronics to load up so you can turn down/off all that noise. Even pressing/turning the knob does absolutely nothing until everything loads. That shit is the most annoying thing ever when I need to get in her car for whatever reason, I have to listen to super loud shit for several seconds.

I liked the physical buttons and potentiometers that you could even adjust with the entire system turned off.
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>>14246512
Is there anything other than time and effort keeping you from installing a traditional radio system? How long until we see aftermarket dash replacements with a small screen for the backup cam and traditional radio controls?
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>>14246509
yes those toddlers should pay the ultimate price for not knowing their drunk daddy is backing his truck out of the garage during chalk time.

Not saying it should be mandatory but to say the kids are at fault is ignorant.
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>>14246551
>Is there anything other than time and effort keeping you from installing a traditional radio system?
Well there's the fact that it's not my car, cost, practicality, and the integration with the rest of the vehicle. It's hard for aftermarket parts to interface with other vehicle systems like OEM ones do.
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>>14245686
If that's true i'm not sure why I have a brand new 350 carberator on my truck
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>>14245745
I saw a Raptor towing a boat like 6 hours ago, and I'm in southern Ohio. I see people hauling with their trucks all the time.
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>>14245745
I use my own trucks for hauling wood. Other than that I don't think it's very common.
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>>14246557
>"Hummph hur ah shit looks like I spilled my last beer. I only drank five of em better go run out and buy some more, just lemme start this new al-you-min-um Ford truck up..."
>"Where's reverse?" Oh- here it is. I ain't drunk I just a little tired that's all"
>"Slowly back up, slowly..."
>"Oh shit! There's a kid in my way! I was about to run that poor kid over! Dearest me, the backup camera saved a life!"

The only people this saves are people that deserve to die.
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>>14246589
His dash must be lit up like a christmas tree.
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>>14246423

>Replace a part
>"PLEASE USE TOUCH SCREEN TO ACCEPT UPDATED LICENSE AGREEMENT"
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http://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/
Daily reminder
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>>14246573
>Well there's the fact that it's not my car
Well, yeah. I'm asking generally. By the time I'm 40 every car will probably have this shit, so I want a way around it.

As long as you know your wires, you should be able to run power and speaker wire to any old stereo. You'd just have to make due with splicing wires instead of plugging in a harness. Worst part would be fabricating a shelf to weld to the interior and bolt the stereo to, I think.
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>>14246423
Pretty sure it's illegal to remove mandatory "safety equipment."
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>>14246667
post yfw cars won't be able to pass inspection unless the camera works.
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>>14246674
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>>14246674
>inspection
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>>14246643
flaming dash kit because shits so hot yo plus underglow dropped low and two kicker 12's in the back bro.
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>>14246667
That's not a problem. Just install an aftermarket system for less than $100.

Also,
>living somewhere with inspection
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>>14246729
>>living somewhere with inspection
>he lives in a flyover state
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>>14246745
>cheap land
>fun roads
>no one gives a fuck about anything
I can have all the shitboxes, shittrucks, and guns I want, without anyone batting an eye. I'm living the American dream, sir. What mollycoddling nanny state do you live in, socialist?
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>>14246781
>PA
>nanny state
>socialist
Birthplace of freedom my nigga.
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>>14246745
Reminder that Midwest is midBEST and that coastfags will always, ALWAYS have less freedom and more hurricanes/tsunamis/immigrants than Midwest Ubermensch states
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>>14245745
Today.
The roofing company I work for uses cube vans, light duty pickup trucks, and those really tall, old diesel trucks that sound like semis.
Granted, we're using really old trucks. But that's because new, expensive trucks are full of new, expensive shit that gets broken by filthy roofers and equipment that's not tied down.
Every contractor we work alongside (when doing new roofs for buildings under construction) uses shitbox old vehicles for work.
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>>14245724
>not living in Montana
>believing this garbage

Must suck.
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>>14246794
Could be worse.
You at least provide a close source of firearms to NJ residents.
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>>14246811
>lives in Montana
>can't drive in the snow in a car

>>14246822
And Maryland and Delaware.
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>>14245694
You can thank that useless fucking nigger obama.
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>>14246839
im pissed, but at least he got osama.
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>>14246826
>thinks everyone should have a car
>somehow tows other 4 wheeled vehicles, motorcycles/dirtbikes/quads/snowmobiles, boats/jet skis, logs/lumber/bricks/hay/, and cattle all in said car, up and down steep grades, through fields/ditches/creeks/snow.

Ok
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>>14246839
Where does Obama have anything to do with cameras in cars?
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>>14246854
>but at least he got osama.
>americans belive this

kek
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>>14246855
>not building a sedan with 13,500 lb towing capacity
pleb.
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>>14246863
>implying it isn't true
seal team six would like a word with you
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>>14246665
If microsoft can make it illegal for you to alter the kernal of their software, or samsung can sue you for altering their TVs, it's probably not a stretch to assume that car manufacturers are going to make it illegal to alter their gps/telemetrics/data recorder/sending unit in any way that would result in the fuctions of the device being altered/stopped.

That, or they'd just make the dash screen integral to operating the ECU/mechanics. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if pulling a jeep dash system out wouldn't make the jeep inoperable from what i remember reading about those hackers being able to control.
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>>14246877
But they all died in a helicopter crash.

>>14246884
>That, or they'd just make the dash screen integral to operating the ECU/mechanics.
rip out ECU& friends and mount carburetor manifold. shit's easier to hack then a piece of wood.
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>>14246877
pics? proof?
>oh wait we accidentally dumper the body into the ocean

seem legit
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>>14246796
Idaho here,

Stop trying to convince the Californians to move here, it's really fucked up winter driving irreparably. I don't want to lose anything else.
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>>14246884
So, crate engine swaps and aftermarket ECUs are the way of the future?

>>14246893
>rip out ECU& friends and mount carburetor manifold. shit's easier to hack then a piece of wood.
Or this. Soon, I don't doubt we'll be able to 3d print metal from home. Rev up that autoCAD, boys.
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>>14246870
>having to buy/build and haul a trailer to move 1 piece of lumber that doesn't fit in your sedan.
Makes sense to me too.
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>>14246612
But the driver normally lives. I remember a story where a mom was about to back up and her one kid went to run around the side of the vehicle to get in passenger side and the dumb bitch said she thought she heard two doors close and though all her children were inside. Which obviously means she didn't look back to reverse or she would have noticed a kid wasn't in the fucking giant suv she had no reason to be driving. Fucking retards today.
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>>14246923
built not bought friendo
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>>14246910
Californians don't think of Idaho when they hear midwest, and most other people don't either.
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>>14246929
just ban women drivers
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>>14246931
Probably why I put "build" in my reply, huh?
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>>14246940
The fuck are you on about
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>>14246912
>being able to 3D print parts from home or some store

I actually like this potential aspect of the future. Though the whole "You wouldn't download a car" thing would take a very literal meaning if copyrights laws are still shitty.
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>>14246893
>Rip out Dash bling
>"Sir, unit number xxxx-xxx-xxxxx-xxxxxxxx has gone offline"!
>"What was the battery level at when it did?"
>"last battery reading was 5 minutes before signal stop, and read 85%"
>"call the party van to it's last known GPS coordinates, now!"

but seriously, that's exactly how samsung knew people were altering their systems.
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>>14246962
>keeping your GPS.
We're going full mechanical boys.
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>>14245758
>it's 2016 and modern vehicles are unreliable shit.
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>>14246954
The fuck are YOU on about.
>I say why would you want to use a trailer (built or bought) for one piece of lumber
>b-built not b-bought, kkid
>no shit buddy, I even said built.

So really, what's your point.
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>>14245669

>Mandatory backup cameras for all new vehicles.

Not here.

>lcd screens

Not here

>anything more than a tape deck

While not all we still have tape deck only vehicles

>all commercial vehicles have DEF

There is not a single drop of that here. Literally
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>>14246973
You ain't making no sense holy shit
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>>14246967
I love that pic, man.
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>>14245689

>tfw there is a pleb tier2016 d22 with manual windows at the dealer right now.
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>>14246984
Are you seriously this retarded or what?
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>>14246854
>he got osama.
he didn't do shit. the military did. and they would have regardless of who the president at the time was
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>people who think their 50 year old shitbox is proof of "simple = reliable"
>never considered that modern vehicles can go just as long, with substantially less maintenance, while using much less fuel and having better payload capacity and having better features
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>>14247012
Why are you talking in circles what the fuck
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>>14247034
Oh and
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias
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>>14247034
>needs a government mandated computer system to tell him what's wrong with his car
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>>14247041
>scan tool: 30 seconds to tell you what's wrong
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>>14247040
So you're saying that we get the best through buying older cars because the shitty ones have all failed to make it this far?
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>>14247041
To be fair, well made solid state electronics are durable as fuck.
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>>14247048
>not knowing what's wrong anyway
casual
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>>14247048
>exhaust is .0001% too rich
>check engine light for weeks.
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>>14247049
No, that it managed to make it out by sheer luck. How much of that truck is original?
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oomAVdZWAVA
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>>14245637

>spare wheel in bed.

Even in an 18 foot flatbed that would soak up too much load space .
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>>14247062
>How much of that truck is original?
The fact that it's capable of having many parts replaced is a testament to simplicity.
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>>14247034
I DD a 52 year old car and work on new ones 8 hours a day. There is no getting around simple = less likely to break, because there are less things to break. Imagine a current car in 50 years, vs. a 1966 car now, of course the 1966 car is much more likely to survive it's 50 year cycle due to construction techniques and simplicity.
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>>14247072
But not of its reliability. Modern vehicles need much less replacing.
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>>14247082
>Modern vehicles need much less replacing.
Bullshit.
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>>14247036
I can't believe you're not a troll; I'm sorry if you're really this moronic, but it's clear that I implied building your own. Your clarification or disagreement through poor comprehension and continued responses are forcing me to continue to call you out on a shitty troll attempt. 1/10.
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>>14247089
Conspiratards everyone.
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I wanted to buy a new truck for work because my 2nd gen hilux is starting to show it's age and the abuse I've given it over the years but all of this stupid pointless shit is what puts me off.

I need a truck I can get dirty and not worry about fucking something up.
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>>14247103
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>>14247062
I wasn't talking about any vehicle in particular, but if something has made it this far whether by durability or ease of maintenance shows that it's got what it takes. A volkswagen beetle is not exceedingly reliable, but the abundance of new replacement parts still being made and simplicity make up for it .

>>14247082
Sure, but when they do how hard will it be to find parts and replace them?
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>>14245683
Thank Ralph Nader for that.

Fucking Green party members ruin every country they're in.
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>>14247112
This is what stops me from putting much work into my 4runner, I want to make it a beast but it's at 267k and who knows how long it'll keep going. Maybe forever thought, might be worth making it my own.
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>>14245686
>in 1985 when EFI became mandatory and no more Carburetors.

Carbs were going on production vehicles as late as 1994 in the US.
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>own my own business
>work as a contractor for oil companies, shipping companies, cruiselines, tow boats, navy, cosst guard, etc
>have to haul around my own launch boat on a daily basis
>always getting muddy, wet, or covered in salt water
>F-250 King Ranch has a bigass stupid SYNC touchscreen in the middle and electronics everywhere
>salt spray got in my truck and ruined the touchscreen
>had to spend $750 to get it fixed

Fuck.
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>>14246612
>5 beers
>drunk

Fucking lightweight
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>>14247219
>friend has half a bottle of whiskey and says I can't have any since it's just enough to get him drunk
>meanwhile I could get fucked up twice over on the same amount

I prefer being efficient.
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>>14245637
>How did this happen?
Trucks became daily drivers instead of tools for getting work done. I kinda agree, I miss the hell out of my spartan 72 GMC Suburban I had in H.S.
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>>14245637
Who cares first thing i'd do outside of warranty is replace the screen with something with better DPI and have full manual controls fuck touch screens when driving

Unresposive and dangerous.

Do you see racecars with 20" tacky lcd's? NO you dont
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>>14247330
>Unresposive
They're designed like that so you don't fuck around with them while the car is in motion.
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>>14245694
>mandatory ABS systems for all new vehicles
what the fuck
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>>14247345
I never used a touchscreen but ones without haptic feedback or physical buttons fucking suck
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>>14247345
>reach down to touchscreen
>can't adjust volume or whatever

And now, for the $100,000 question, what will the average harried soccer mom or caffeinated wage jockey do when they're driving down the freeway at 75 and they can't make their stereo change volume?

A) Pull off the road, stop, and fix the problem
B) Look down at the device without stopping and attempt to fix the problem
C) Ignore the problem entirely and drive to their destination
D) Grow wings and soar into orbit on fairydust farts

This isn't rocket science.
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>>14247385
>And now, for the $100,000 question, what will the average harried soccer mom or caffeinated wage jockey do when they're driving down the freeway at 75 and they can't make their stereo change volume?
Cars still have volume wheels and some even have controls on the steering wheels but you can't start plotting hyperspace coordinates while it's moving
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>>14247385
Of course not, fairy dust is magic you.
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>implying having a rear facing camera and display isn't the greatest thing to happen for towing trailers
>not realizing that cameras and LCD's are cheap as fuck these days

people who are buying a brand new truck probably want some nice features

>muh basic work truck
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>>14245686
my 1991 b2200 disagrees with this statement.
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>>14247330
>Do you see racecars with 20" tacky lcd's? NO you dont

do you see racecars with stereos? or heated electric seats? etc

you're an idiot lol

>tfw aftermarket head-unit with bluetooth tablet+usb master race
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>>14247432
I have no issue with useful features.
I have issue with sensitive electronics in a work vehicle.
Is that shit going to stand up when 3 or 4 mantanks covered in mud, blood, and shit are rocking and slamming shit around the cab at the end of a 10 hour workday?
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Lifelong truck fag here, back up cameras and lcd screens are not the fucking devil holy shit. Dont want it? Dont buy it.
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>>14247444
>Tablet
Nuh phablet master race
one thingo to rule them all
>>14247449
just you wait till theres full screen ads and viruses on the cunt
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>>14247447
>I have issue with sensitive electronics in a work vehicle.

>digital camera
>sensitive

there is one on your cellphone. ever drop it? still works. right?


>>14247468
>virus
>closed system

you could say the same for the entire network of modules and sensors on a modern vehicle
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>>14247500
Not the camera m8, the screen and shit in the cab.
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>>14247500
>there is one on your cellphone. ever drop it? still works. right?
Nokia is forged in Valhalla nigga
or was..
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>>14245637
I don't see who wouldn't want a backup camera in a truck.

It makes backing up to a trailer a one person job instead of two.

It allows you to see behind a massive truck. (A RAM 2500 tailgate sits at like 5'6" with the tailgate up).

It allows you to see behind the 24' behemoth.
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>>14247600
Don't understand how you couldn't figure out how to back up to your trailer after the first couple times. I can back up to my camper, stop 5 inches away, get out and see what small correction I need to make, and generally stick it without any other motions. I only haul that trailer every other year or so too.
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>>14247944
>get out and see what small correction I need to make


or

>look at the screen on the dash in your $40,000 truck

there's a reason poor people don't have nice things. it's not because you don't want them or couldn't use it, its because you couldn't afford it.

my jeep doesn't even have a passenger side mirror. that doesn't mean i wouldn't drive a new grand cherokee

>not offroad enough
>too nice
>too expensive
>fancy screens and leather etc

hurr durrr
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>>14247972
As far as it concerns me, it's just not an issue...like, at all. I gotta walk out there anyways to lift the trailer up above the hitch anyways, and take the lock off and lift the latch...just getting everything done at the same time.

It's just like hearing people complain about driving a manual, it's really only an issue to you if you don't drive that often.
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>>14246855
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9bhus_1Oos&t=60
>not having a car that can do all that
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>>14246967
>full mechanical
Those cars have HEI distributors, not point type. Still some electrical fuckery there.
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>>14248171
>hanging out at the gas station
topkek why do rednecks and squidbikers do this so much.
Shit i live near philly and they do this.
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It's because backup cameras are becoming a mandated safety feature.
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>>14245637
>How did this happen?

I'm more curious about how you time traveled here from 1954.
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>>14245637

They use LCDs for everything nowadays, man.
Fast food places use LCD screens for menu boards.
At the gas station they have a cooler with see-through LCD as the door which plays ads for Bud Light.
Lots of vehicles use LCD displays for the gauges.
Lots of people carry multiple LCD screens with them every day (cellphone, tablet, smartwatch).
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>>14247123
wut, do you even know what he did?
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