>All new F150s now have LCD screens
>The monstrosity that is the 2017 Super Duty is bound to have them standard as well
>All new Chevy trucks have LCD screens
>All new RAM trucks have LCD screens
>All new Toyota trucks have LCD screens
How did this happen?
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>mandatory backup cameras for all new vehicles
This is happening and all new cars are getting LCD touch screens to double as backup view screens.
Also, its easier for mfgrs to build 1 display and drop it all vehicles than to design a bunch of different dashboards
>American production car regulations after 1972
Meanwhile it's still legal to sell brand new Defenders, Caterhams and Morgan Three Wheelers in Europe.
>tfw can buy cheap utilitarian trucks
feels good to be actually free
It's not the end of the world, and I am sure Kenwood, Pioneer, Sony, Alpine, Etc... will adapt as well in the future once that factory LCD screen/radio thingie in your car becomes out-dated and you need something new to connect to your phone because bluetooth gets replaced by some other technology or whatever.
its fucking dumb.
>let me buy a new work truck
>towing, hauling, abusing
>im covered in dirt and mud and oil and grease
>lets fill a truck with sensitive electronics and touchscreens everywhere.
what fucking retard thought this would be a good idea?
>accidentally spin tires at red light in rain
>forced to bribe female officer 600$
nice try m8
I'd link you to the traffic stop thread but its gone now. There were multiple ausfags complaining about dirty cops and accidentally ripping a skid.
>things that never happened
I am australian and you shouldnt believe everything you read on the internet most cops usually let you off with enough bullshitting and my life is fucked if you fine/impound/arrest me/it, other times you get ones that will actively lookout for hoons but they wont plant evidence or whatever the fuck these cunts are bullshitting about.
why would i put wear on anything other than the drivetrain and bed?
it's not my fault you can't keep dirt and your own shit off the dashboard. you dumb asshole
if kids are retarded enough to stand behind a car then Darwin is doing his job
My mom bought a new toyota a couple years back with a LCD screen/radio. When you turn the car on, the audio starts instantly but it takes several seconds for the electronics to load up so you can turn down/off all that noise. Even pressing/turning the knob does absolutely nothing until everything loads. That shit is the most annoying thing ever when I need to get in her car for whatever reason, I have to listen to super loud shit for several seconds.
I liked the physical buttons and potentiometers that you could even adjust with the entire system turned off.
Is there anything other than time and effort keeping you from installing a traditional radio system? How long until we see aftermarket dash replacements with a small screen for the backup cam and traditional radio controls?
yes those toddlers should pay the ultimate price for not knowing their drunk daddy is backing his truck out of the garage during chalk time.
Not saying it should be mandatory but to say the kids are at fault is ignorant.
>Is there anything other than time and effort keeping you from installing a traditional radio system?
Well there's the fact that it's not my car, cost, practicality, and the integration with the rest of the vehicle. It's hard for aftermarket parts to interface with other vehicle systems like OEM ones do.
>"Hummph hur ah shit looks like I spilled my last beer. I only drank five of em better go run out and buy some more, just lemme start this new al-you-min-um Ford truck up..."
>"Where's reverse?" Oh- here it is. I ain't drunk I just a little tired that's all"
>"Slowly back up, slowly..."
>"Oh shit! There's a kid in my way! I was about to run that poor kid over! Dearest me, the backup camera saved a life!"
The only people this saves are people that deserve to die.
>Well there's the fact that it's not my car
Well, yeah. I'm asking generally. By the time I'm 40 every car will probably have this shit, so I want a way around it.
As long as you know your wires, you should be able to run power and speaker wire to any old stereo. You'd just have to make due with splicing wires instead of plugging in a harness. Worst part would be fabricating a shelf to weld to the interior and bolt the stereo to, I think.
post yfw cars won't be able to pass inspection unless the camera works.
>>living somewhere with inspection
>he lives in a flyover state
>no one gives a fuck about anything
I can have all the shitboxes, shittrucks, and guns I want, without anyone batting an eye. I'm living the American dream, sir. What mollycoddling nanny state do you live in, socialist?
Birthplace of freedom my nigga.
The roofing company I work for uses cube vans, light duty pickup trucks, and those really tall, old diesel trucks that sound like semis.
Granted, we're using really old trucks. But that's because new, expensive trucks are full of new, expensive shit that gets broken by filthy roofers and equipment that's not tied down.
Every contractor we work alongside (when doing new roofs for buildings under construction) uses shitbox old vehicles for work.
>thinks everyone should have a car
>somehow tows other 4 wheeled vehicles, motorcycles/dirtbikes/quads/snowmobiles, boats/jet skis, logs/lumber/bricks/hay/, and cattle all in said car, up and down steep grades, through fields/ditches/creeks/snow.
>but at least he got osama.
>americans belive this
If microsoft can make it illegal for you to alter the kernal of their software, or samsung can sue you for altering their TVs, it's probably not a stretch to assume that car manufacturers are going to make it illegal to alter their gps/telemetrics/data recorder/sending unit in any way that would result in the fuctions of the device being altered/stopped.
That, or they'd just make the dash screen integral to operating the ECU/mechanics. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if pulling a jeep dash system out wouldn't make the jeep inoperable from what i remember reading about those hackers being able to control.
But they all died in a helicopter crash.
>That, or they'd just make the dash screen integral to operating the ECU/mechanics.
rip out ECU& friends and mount carburetor manifold. shit's easier to hack then a piece of wood.
So, crate engine swaps and aftermarket ECUs are the way of the future?
>rip out ECU& friends and mount carburetor manifold. shit's easier to hack then a piece of wood.
Or this. Soon, I don't doubt we'll be able to 3d print metal from home. Rev up that autoCAD, boys.
>having to buy/build and haul a trailer to move 1 piece of lumber that doesn't fit in your sedan.
Makes sense to me too.
But the driver normally lives. I remember a story where a mom was about to back up and her one kid went to run around the side of the vehicle to get in passenger side and the dumb bitch said she thought she heard two doors close and though all her children were inside. Which obviously means she didn't look back to reverse or she would have noticed a kid wasn't in the fucking giant suv she had no reason to be driving. Fucking retards today.
>being able to 3D print parts from home or some store
I actually like this potential aspect of the future. Though the whole "You wouldn't download a car" thing would take a very literal meaning if copyrights laws are still shitty.
>Rip out Dash bling
>"Sir, unit number xxxx-xxx-xxxxx-xxxxxxxx has gone offline"!
>"What was the battery level at when it did?"
>"last battery reading was 5 minutes before signal stop, and read 85%"
>"call the party van to it's last known GPS coordinates, now!"
but seriously, that's exactly how samsung knew people were altering their systems.
>keeping your GPS.
We're going full mechanical boys.
>it's 2016 and modern vehicles are unreliable shit.
The fuck are YOU on about.
>I say why would you want to use a trailer (built or bought) for one piece of lumber
>b-built not b-bought, kkid
>no shit buddy, I even said built.
So really, what's your point.
>Mandatory backup cameras for all new vehicles.
>anything more than a tape deck
While not all we still have tape deck only vehicles
>all commercial vehicles have DEF
There is not a single drop of that here. Literally
Are you seriously this retarded or what?
>people who think their 50 year old shitbox is proof of "simple = reliable"
>never considered that modern vehicles can go just as long, with substantially less maintenance, while using much less fuel and having better payload capacity and having better features
Why are you talking in circles what the fuck
I DD a 52 year old car and work on new ones 8 hours a day. There is no getting around simple = less likely to break, because there are less things to break. Imagine a current car in 50 years, vs. a 1966 car now, of course the 1966 car is much more likely to survive it's 50 year cycle due to construction techniques and simplicity.
I can't believe you're not a troll; I'm sorry if you're really this moronic, but it's clear that I implied building your own. Your clarification or disagreement through poor comprehension and continued responses are forcing me to continue to call you out on a shitty troll attempt. 1/10.
I wanted to buy a new truck for work because my 2nd gen hilux is starting to show it's age and the abuse I've given it over the years but all of this stupid pointless shit is what puts me off.
I need a truck I can get dirty and not worry about fucking something up.
I wasn't talking about any vehicle in particular, but if something has made it this far whether by durability or ease of maintenance shows that it's got what it takes. A volkswagen beetle is not exceedingly reliable, but the abundance of new replacement parts still being made and simplicity make up for it .
Sure, but when they do how hard will it be to find parts and replace them?
This is what stops me from putting much work into my 4runner, I want to make it a beast but it's at 267k and who knows how long it'll keep going. Maybe forever thought, might be worth making it my own.
>own my own business
>work as a contractor for oil companies, shipping companies, cruiselines, tow boats, navy, cosst guard, etc
>have to haul around my own launch boat on a daily basis
>always getting muddy, wet, or covered in salt water
>F-250 King Ranch has a bigass stupid SYNC touchscreen in the middle and electronics everywhere
>salt spray got in my truck and ruined the touchscreen
>had to spend $750 to get it fixed
>friend has half a bottle of whiskey and says I can't have any since it's just enough to get him drunk
>meanwhile I could get fucked up twice over on the same amount
I prefer being efficient.
Who cares first thing i'd do outside of warranty is replace the screen with something with better DPI and have full manual controls fuck touch screens when driving
Unresposive and dangerous.
Do you see racecars with 20" tacky lcd's? NO you dont
>reach down to touchscreen
>can't adjust volume or whatever
And now, for the $100,000 question, what will the average harried soccer mom or caffeinated wage jockey do when they're driving down the freeway at 75 and they can't make their stereo change volume?
A) Pull off the road, stop, and fix the problem
B) Look down at the device without stopping and attempt to fix the problem
C) Ignore the problem entirely and drive to their destination
D) Grow wings and soar into orbit on fairydust farts
This isn't rocket science.
>And now, for the $100,000 question, what will the average harried soccer mom or caffeinated wage jockey do when they're driving down the freeway at 75 and they can't make their stereo change volume?
Cars still have volume wheels and some even have controls on the steering wheels but you can't start plotting hyperspace coordinates while it's moving
>implying having a rear facing camera and display isn't the greatest thing to happen for towing trailers
>not realizing that cameras and LCD's are cheap as fuck these days
people who are buying a brand new truck probably want some nice features
>muh basic work truck
>Do you see racecars with 20" tacky lcd's? NO you dont
do you see racecars with stereos? or heated electric seats? etc
you're an idiot lol
>tfw aftermarket head-unit with bluetooth tablet+usb master race
I have no issue with useful features.
I have issue with sensitive electronics in a work vehicle.
Is that shit going to stand up when 3 or 4 mantanks covered in mud, blood, and shit are rocking and slamming shit around the cab at the end of a 10 hour workday?
>I have issue with sensitive electronics in a work vehicle.
there is one on your cellphone. ever drop it? still works. right?
you could say the same for the entire network of modules and sensors on a modern vehicle
I don't see who wouldn't want a backup camera in a truck.
It makes backing up to a trailer a one person job instead of two.
It allows you to see behind a massive truck. (A RAM 2500 tailgate sits at like 5'6" with the tailgate up).
It allows you to see behind the 24' behemoth.
Don't understand how you couldn't figure out how to back up to your trailer after the first couple times. I can back up to my camper, stop 5 inches away, get out and see what small correction I need to make, and generally stick it without any other motions. I only haul that trailer every other year or so too.
>get out and see what small correction I need to make
>look at the screen on the dash in your $40,000 truck
there's a reason poor people don't have nice things. it's not because you don't want them or couldn't use it, its because you couldn't afford it.
my jeep doesn't even have a passenger side mirror. that doesn't mean i wouldn't drive a new grand cherokee
>not offroad enough
>fancy screens and leather etc
As far as it concerns me, it's just not an issue...like, at all. I gotta walk out there anyways to lift the trailer up above the hitch anyways, and take the lock off and lift the latch...just getting everything done at the same time.
It's just like hearing people complain about driving a manual, it's really only an issue to you if you don't drive that often.
They use LCDs for everything nowadays, man.
Fast food places use LCD screens for menu boards.
At the gas station they have a cooler with see-through LCD as the door which plays ads for Bud Light.
Lots of vehicles use LCD displays for the gauges.
Lots of people carry multiple LCD screens with them every day (cellphone, tablet, smartwatch).