So in my area the minimum wage increased, so jiffy lube bumped the price of an oil change to 41.99. So my current idea is I create an ad offering to change oil and oil filters and a less exorbitant rate. Meet them at an auto shop, drain the oil, swap the filter, fill the oil with the pan back on, turn the car on, check to make sure it's sealed with oil pressure, turn the car off, check the oil. I can check washer fluid, brake fluid, steering fluid and their tranny fluid while it's running. But I don't have a shop. Best two bets are the little wheel ramps and changing them in the parking lot of the autoparts store... Did I miss anything? I mean obviously I'm gonna need to get some tools but is this a solid idea? I could add detailing etc too, have a compressor at my parents house I can borrow with impact wrench and plenty of jacks (my brother is almost done rebuilding his MK3 supra). so I mean I could do tire rotations too. But first, just a basic oil change ad. What should I charge? I mean I'll charge them parts and then what about labor?
Sounds illegal. Maybe if you had your own driveway and garage.
dafuq, why? I'm making sure I dispose of the oil properly. I mean i can make them drive the car back to my apt, and do it there, people work on their cars all the time here. Or take it to my parentals house which is nearby but why? The parking lot is just as good mang, I'm catching all the oil. but yeah I don't wanna get sued or some shit.
>> Get's sent to rape prison for doing an oil change
It's illegal because you're making money in a way that is hard to tax, the government doesn't like it, you have no insurance if you fuck up someones car or they claim you did, and the EPA might decide to fuck with you.
I would try your detailing service and possibly mention you can do oil changes. In my opinion keep the oil change stuff by word of mouth only for now instead of advertising it. Normies have it in their mind that places like Jiffy Lube are professional and quick compared to a normal person doing it. Again also no insurance, it makes it harder than it looks to steal away customers.
you do know you can just claim the cash you make when you do your taxes right? Or just go a bank and ask how you can do this legally (you really dont have to do any of this thpugh)
what kind of faggot are you really?
>its illigal to do oil changes for others cause you arent an auto shop
this is you, fuckwit
Knowing what I do about business in my area, there's probably some certification you have to maintain yearly (with a big fee of course) to be able to run an auto shop. I doubt anything would happen via Craigslist though.
Check the price of several quarts of oil and a filter at the local Autozone. Even doing your own oil changes, where labor is free, it's tough to beat the Jiffy Lube, especially if you use a half-decent oil and filter, more so if you run synthetic.
Changing your own oil only really makes sense for people who know what a shitshow chain lube shops are and want the job done right. You'll find it damn near impossible to make any money worth talking about.
I don't think it's illegal, but I also don't think it'd make for a good business.
First, you ever do your own oil changes? In my area, Oil Changes (from places like Firestore/Wal-Mart) are right at $27~ USD. That's including oil disposal and tax. At that rate, if I go to Autozone or Wal-Mart and buy my oil/filter, it's JUST shy of that. I'm virtually saving no money. The only real benefit of doing my oil myself is just that, doing my oil myself. Which I still do, because I don't trust anyone else to touch my vehicle. If you can get prices lower in your area, that's fine. Anecdotal evidence speaking here.
Second, the big one, you're probably gonna need some kind of permit and insurance. You'll need to check your local laws, but you're basically running a business. There are costs in that alone before you do your first cents worth of work. Also, as an aside, what happens when you get some idiot who is absolutely convinced 'their car hasn't run quite right since you did their oil change'. I don't care how good of a job you do, there WILL be some idiot who follows you up on that.
No, it's not. There is nothing illegal about doing oil changes like this, you just report your earnings to the IRS or other applicable financial body like any other small business does.
No, they are putting recycled oil into your car and a fram filter.
Doing oil changes on someone elses property like the parking lot of autozone is illegal, Especially for profit. You are using property you do not own for profitable gain.
That is illegal.
>security in quotes
Shops are registered and generally required to have insurance you dumb motherfucker, so if your engine pops a couple hundred meters down the street you're not trying to sue an individual in a civil court.
Did you completely miss the part where I said "benefit is doing the work yourself". Are you too retarded to deduce that I was referring to a situation exactly like this?
>Doing it at Autozone. Illegal.
Alright, you got me there, however; the easy solution would be to either do it at his house or the customer's. Make customers get appointments, make them tell you their car, have supplies at ready.
OP doesn't have a house, he has an apartment. Thus illegal there also.
And OP wanted to do it without a permit.
Which is ILLEGAL.
>doing the work yourself
There is far more to it then that.
>New non recycled oil
>a proper oil filter
>knowing the job was done right
Also this. A low cost shop is buying fucking 200L/55gal drums and dozens of filters at a time.
That's some serious cost savings, and if they employ 15 year olds the hourly is low enough that you're fucked trying to match them with 20Ls and retail on filters.
Now these are ausfag prices, but let me put it this way:
1x 6L + 1L Nulon full synthetic + ryco filter from autobarn/repco/whatever: $85-90
7L of the 20L + ryco filter bought through my brothers shop: $45-50
You will have to ask the autoshop if you can use their lot to charge people to change oil.
Then you will also have to have proof of the agreement between them and yourself.
This won't be done through the building, but if you want it legal you will have to probably go as far as district management.
Don't forget how the engine suddenly cut out as he was pulling into his drive way so he went through the wall of his garage and twisted his neck while scratching all along the side of his porsche/ferrari/etc.
This is whey even small shops have multi-million dollar coverage.
Which I think makes sense. Use a house or go to the customer, I'll just set up appointments on my off days and predetermine necessary supplies. Then go to them and don't have them move the car at all... I mean I could definitely still get ripped off so I should be extra careful about taking work... so they don't drain the pan after I leave and rev the engine...
okay I won't suggest the option where I don't mention I'm charging.
Lol noob do you even car?
>> Needing a permit to change your own oil or for a friend you met on the internet and he pays you for it. I mean the fucking prostitutes are edgier in their ads asking for donations and gentlemen. Shouldn't you be dealing with real crime instead of this person whose doing oil change work trying to make money the way he knows how?
>mention that I'm charging
That would be illegal.
And probably even a higher chance of them telling you no because of liability on their property.
Charging someone to change their oil would be money gained.
Yes if you don't report it you are breaking the law and it is illegal.
Does that mean uncle sam is going to go after you for changing someones oils once every 2-3 months and making 20 bucks off of it? fuck no. but it is still illegal to not report it.
Oh child, if you actually think the government/police give a single shit about laws at this point you're fucking delusional.
Let's spell it out for you:
You want to work on cars for money, they have regulations and licenses and other shit that means you pay them lots of money
You don't pay them lots of money, you get fucked harder than a child killer.
Welcome to the modern world.
Please tell me which one it is, I don't see vehicle maintenance or car care, or oil specialist. I can change any oil I want as far as I know.
Like story time
>> Little old lady asks me to change her oil
>> I say sure, show up with oil and filter
>> do work real quick because it's simple shit
>> she insists on paying for parts and my labor
welp fuck it I broke dem dern laws. The money goes into my bank account anyway.
on a scale of 1-10 how fucked harder than a child killer am I?
Unless you start making real money or someone like a faggot in this thread reports you, you will be fine. Though it's technically illegal, the government won't try to come after you until you make more than a certain amount (I'm going to guess $5k, since that is what the number is for income tax) or until the old lady's son decides you fucked her car up and takes you to small claims court.
also, idk how youre gonna get the price down to under 40$ diy. changing your own oil is often more expensive than just letting a shop do it. i mean like cheap as shit synthetic oil is what at least 20$ for a 5l jug, then the oil filter another 5-10$ then the labor? youre back yo 40$ and you dont even have a shop to do it in, and will probably take longer.
idk man, i get castrol gtx and its like 60$ for a 5l jug, and i could just take my car to a shop but i dont need billy bob fucking my shit up, so id rather just pay more and have it done right.
What ship do you think your goig to go into that would be okay with you taking their business right from the lot...not to mention environmental, liability.....and it doesn't sound like you NO much about changing oil why did you say with the pan on and checking if its sealed with pressure that's not how it works
cause I wrote it in 5 seconds not like a detailed guide of perfection. lol. Making sure it's sealed and has pressure after you change the filter is kinda important? so you know you didn't fuck something up?
be careful who you work for and don't fuck up.
You know why oil changed cost that much? Because that's what shit cost. OP how are you just going to show up at random shops and do oil changes? you think the owner would allow that?
>cost of oil
>car maintenanace driving around
>cost to get new customers
Who would let you change their oil? they would save what $10? not worth it. We do some "regular" oil changes at my shop. I have to charge enough to cover all cost and make a small profit. Rent and bills aren't free. We might make $5-$10 profit on an oil change, hardly huge margins. Do you think shops are secretly buying all this shit and getting the labor for $1 an oil change or something?
About $18 cost for this shit oil
between $3-$8 cost for this shit filter
>labor (by the time he gets it in, does it, cleans up)
Call it half hour $7
>insurance (based on about $500/month)
$2 for that half hour
That's $34. That doesn't take into account things like lights, taxes, management pay, profit etc etc etc.
You catch all the oil, use shop rags etc. Auto parts shops don't offer oil changes, do they? Also after the fact you take the oil you've collected to a recycle center?
While the person who goes to a shop expects the shop to pay for any damages it may cause, the person looking for somebody to do come to them and change their oil is either looking for better service than oil change shops. It's all about providing a better quality experience then they would receive from the oil shop. I'm a dude with a good head on my shoulders that's gonna show you how to change your oil if you want or just do it for you etc. Obviously if the car has damage when I inspect it I have to warn them the dangers of potential damage, metal flakes in oil, trans fluid looks funny, weird noises from the gearbox etc. Just tell them I can't do it because if their car breaks I don't wanna be the last person who worked on it.
>> Cold Cash for a private transaction
>> Uh I'm not trying to do so many cars a day that I'm actually gonna fuck up.
>cost of oil
>> Not my problem it costs what it costs.
>> Currently working minumum wage, just getting more income on my days off would help like 1-5 oil changes not 20-50 like I'm a shop or some shit.
>> I mean obviously I'll be somewhat localized in how far I'm willing to drive to do an oil change for you and if it's really far I'll let them know I could but it will cost travel fees.
>> I pay my taxes, I'm not some illegal pot grower whose bringing in 10k-100k a year I'm just looking for a few hundred a month to try and help with life
>car maintenanace driving around
>> your car wears it's a fucking tool, maintain it and it will take you where you need to go.
>cost to get new customers
>> a CL ad and friends. I already have one friend who thought this was a good idea and asked to be my first oil change. Which prompted me to write this thread.
If they want me to come to them it's for their convenience probably and probably not completely about cost. But in some cases it could be entirely about 10$ measly dollars.
>> We can't all get a small loan of a million dollars from our dad...
Lol you can keep making excuses or you can listen to a business owner. The prices of things are brought up because you still have to buy them, so you'll end up costing the same but you'll be some shady dude on CL. Who would be your clientele? Anyone who would troll CL for that would either want it done for $10 or is already proficient and can do it themselves, oh but you also want cash. It's a poor idea because the major places already do it for such little profit but they make up for it in volume. And insurance exist because accidents always happen no matter how careful. You can ignore all the very real down sides or you can try it and make $1.hr after everything. Also car maintenance had to be calculated because of you're driving back and forth it cost money. You seem really young and horrible at finances. Also I opened my first shop with cash I saved. It was 2000 sqft, my partner already had all the customers and tools. I brought some cash and business experience. We bought ONE used lift. And as we grew, literally all the profit was put into bigger and better tools. I took $500/month for the first two years. You HAVE to have your cost of things nailed down. You might take cash and think you made money, but you'll quickly end up negative.