ITT: Horseshit car tech

>Skyactiv
Sounds like the shit they advertise jogurts with

Is that start stop?

I'd like to add hybrid tech
VVT
Electric car batteries
'Driver Aids'
Self driving cars (at the moment very limited) cant drive themselves in all conditions (wet weather)
>>14213283
for that smooth creamy starting engine feeling and sound buy skyactive

Eco button

>>14213297

VVT is horseshit car tech?

How so?

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this is pathetic

>>14213298
>mfw my tune has made my eco button useless
straya

>>14213256
It's a dumb name but the shit works.

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>>14213332
turbos are horseshit?

>>14213323
if these dyno numbers coming out are legit then it's some next level shit

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>>14213338

Nah but the MPG claims are

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>>14213343
>can now have fun turbos and still look like you care about the environment
who cares if the MPG figures are inflated a bit?

>skyactiv
>Horseshit car tech
>better power and efficiency than stupidly undersized turbo 'economy' engines
kek

>>14213283
>>14213297
>>14213298
>>14213319
>>14213320
>>14213332

How is direct injection horse shit? It allows you to lean out the fuel mixture without the consequence of knock. Not to mention it's better for performance reasons , because you can increase compression ratio by decreasing combustion chamber volume(Shaving heads, aftermarket heads, check your valve clearances kids) or you can run more boost.

The only one that's complete bullshit is this >>14213348


There's a reason why VW is/was the only diesel economy car in the US

>>14213418
nah its exaggerated af. It's like snake oil tech or something

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Or any other "intelligent" 4wd.

>>14213912
FWD-biased AWD is the best kind of AWD though.

>>14213873
yeah okay bro

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Skyactiv is legit stuff though

>>14214180
>FWD
>best
Pick one.

>>14213256
Please explain why this isn't the best thing on the market today

>>14214230
Because he didn't know what it was and thought it was BS.

>>14214180
What's it like being a fucking retard?

>>14213256
>not enjoying direct injection
>not a fan of 4-2-1 headers
>mfw higher hp and torque
>mfw 900km to the tank
>mfw you're a raging faggot.

>>14214230
>>14214246
>buyers remorse

>>14213256
The only bad thing about Mazda's Skyactiv is the name because it doesn't tell you anything.

The technology is legit.

>>14213502
>carbon buildup

>>14213418
Yeah whatever lol

1.8t VW is 170 HP/ 184 tq. come at skyactive fags.

>>14214934
>needs a turbo to reach 170
Mazda's 2.5 skyactv is 185hp 185tq

>>14214934
And I might add that the full torque is reached at 1500 RPM and held through to the top end. No N/A 4 banger can touch that.

>>14214958
see:
>>14214962

And its 1.8 liters not 2.5 so you cannot directly compare them like that. if my engine was 2.5 liters then fine but its not.

No N/A can beat that torque at 1500 RPM.

>>14214971
nice numbers, but
>VAG
how can you enjoy them when it breaks down every other day?

>>14214971
>has a turbo
>you can't compare them!!!
Shut up fag
Skyactv is lighter more efficient. Breaks less and offers more power than your terrible VW

>>14214979
Ive had mine for 5K miles and nothing was needed other than adding 1/4th of a quart of oil and even then thats just my autism with oil levels.

Got a crazy deal on a lease, $79 a month going to tune it with APR after for easy gains.

> +78 HP and +121 fl/lbs tq.

thats why I went turbo.

>>14214934
>vw
it probably makes 120hp then roflmao


>>14214962
the vw 1.8t doesnt make peak torque that low, and it doesnt hold it all the way
skyactiv 2.0 makes peak torque around the same point and holds it for longer

>>14214985

I highly doubt its more efficient. I get 43 MPG highway.

Besides that, you can plug and play tune these turbos to make crazy power over stock that even some V6's cant touch.

Just check APR's tunes.

>>14214999
>1/4th
>quarterth
>only 5k miles and burns oil
>lease
>tuning a leased car
You suck at life

>>14214999
>he is LEASING a fwd vw shit heap
>he is planning on modifying a LEASED fwd vw shit heap
ROFLMAO
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>>14215013
>I get 43 MPG highway
so does the mx5, and its a sports car not an econo car shit heap

>>14215012
What the fuck are you on?

1st. its know than VW conservatively rates its engines. multiple independent shops have dyno'd the 1.8t at ~190 HP and 200+ ft/lbs of torque.

2nd. How are you going to argue with facts? Its a FACT that it generates peak torque at 1500 RPMS and holds to 4500-5000. its a TURBO.

Stupid kike.

>>14215019
>>14215021

Are you kikes that stupid?

Wouldnt you take a new car for nearly 0 down and $79 a month?

haha holy shit the butthurt is REAL.

I meant after the lease I would maybe tune it if I kept it. Not going to let me warranty be voided....

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>>14215035
>he is actually defending hsi leased VW FWD shitheap

should have bought a mk4-mk5 R32 if you like VW so much dumb ass

>>14215024
>so does the mx5


Hey dildo, how many people have need for a small 2 seater car which on average retails for 5K-15k more than the equivalent Jetta?

Jetta making same MPG weighing a lot more with far more utility purpose/space. lol...

>>14215035
>I will pay the depreciation on a car
>I MAY keep it and magically think I will end up getting it for a better deal
>being this fucking dumb
You lease faggots are all the same. The dealership is going to get paid TWICE by the same sucker.

>>14215035
>Wouldnt you take a new car for nearly 0 down and $79 a month?

No because I don't like long term rentals

>>14215047
>should have bought a mk4-mk5 R32 if you like VW so much dumb ass


I like saving money and not having to worry about jack shit with my DD.

I dont care what car I get I take the best deal. Im not a fanboy of any car but I will speak up against the skyactive meme/circlejerk.


Simple fact is $79 a month for a new DD is a steal.

>>14215059
>I like saving money
>LEASES a car

kek

>>14215059
Prove you are paying $79/month for a brand new lease.
>not taking into account the money you had to pay up front
>paying off the depreciation of a rental car

>>14215051
You DO realize that VW credit (lessor) will take the depreciation hit not me...

$79 a month is a fucking STEAL for a 2015 jetta sport.

I save more on gas than what I pay for the car in a year! Its crazy.

>>14215074
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/ctd/5395448803.html
Why would he, they have the ad's all over.

>>14215074
VW mall of Georgia in Beauford runs year end deals like this all the time. The best deals can be had there since they deal in such immense volume.

Im not kidding, but most people would tell you that $79 a month for a new car is a crazy good deal.

At $79 a month I save more in gas, so much so that its practically free to me since I budgeted out 2016 based on my 98 5.0 explorer.

>>14215086
>http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/ctd/5395448803.html


Also, the deal I got specified the "Sport" model which is far superior to the base "S".

Not sure of they fucked it up but the sales guys were very confused they all though it was the basic "S".

I even got the bi-zenon lamps that move around with LED DRL. Crazy deal.

>>14215076
Not if you decide to buy it idiot.

>also you're literally renting a car if you don't keep it.

>implying you actaully pay $79/month for the whole lease
>implying you didn't put thousands down

Show us proof that the whole term is only $79/month, you lying cuck.

>>14215105
not even the guy you are shit talking but holy fuck m8 why are you so mad?
Trying to justify your $1000 shit box while you work 6 jobs?

>>14215105
Stupid kike did you even take a moment to research?

You can call if you like but in August of 2015 , they(Vw mall beauford GA) did in fact have these(SPORT model) on lease special for $79 a month.

I managed to get the only one with the lighting pack too. They had 3 left.

I qualified under the VW college grad program so the first months payment was made by them and free.

I put $500 down, thats it. They wanted it gone, it was bright red and had been there for some months.

>>14215116
>why are you having a discussion about a liar on a car forum about cars?
>why are you calling out someone on their bullshit so others don't get conned?
>why are you having a discussion on a car discussion forum?

Okay faggot.
>hurrr everyone is so mad!!!! they maff!!!! no one is just sitting on the couch watching tv and the opposite of mad!!!!!

>>14213297
>Electric car batteries
I agree, pussies who can't even hand start their engine.

>>14215128
>did you research Beauford GA VW before getting online?!?!?
LOl srs?

>just keeps talking
>doesn't post proof of his payments
Okay then, enjoy your denial.

I know they had $75 LIMITED leases (which means the price goes up to normal after a bit) and it required just over $5k at signing for WELL QUALIFIED buyers.... So yeah.

>>14215155
>I know they had $75 LIMITED leases (which means the price goes up to normal after a bit) and it required just over $5k at signing for WELL QUALIFIED buyers.... So yeah

Heh, so deluded.

This isnt jewish Direct TV, rates dont fucking change after awhile.....

>Build credit at 18
>graduate and qualify under excellent lease program
>get best deal + negotiate.

This isnt hard. And it was supposed to be 2K down but I managed to negotiate.

>>14215172
>stil no proof
>it's a lease so that paperwork is feet from you
>every phone has a camera
Just take a pic of this amazing $2,800 3 year lease you got.

As I understand "Skyactive" is Mazda's holistic approach to eaking out efficiency from cars without resorting to just sticking huge heavy batteries in them.

A lot of it is pretty neat, like their capacitive brake regeneration system.

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>>14215181
Heres a pic of one of the lease offers they had, I sent this to my friend who at the time was looking for a basic SUV.

The sport model 2015 jetta was $79 with same terms.

If you dont believe me, well...not my problem its yours.

>>14215204
>$2000 + other fees due at signing
>pretending he "negotiated" out of LEASE down payment
>$99 now
>still no picture of YOUR payments
>can't even show an advert for the car he bought

Dude, you know you have online billing. Just show us where you are paying $79 for 3 years and put $500 down. I'll wait.

>>14215204
I found this "The $89 a month it takes to lease a Jetta at some U.S. dealerships is about as low as the price of using an iPhone on some cell phone plans. It’s also a sign of how Volkswagen AG is grasping to turn around its fortunes in the U.S.

The bargain deal -- available after a down payment of about $2,500 on the $17,325 Jetta -- runs over a three-year term. "

>>14215259
mine was $79 for a car valued at $23k or so. IT has the $1100 plus lighting package and this was before diesel gate and all that crap.

Take a look at how others get crazy good lease deals. They do exist.

http://slickdeals.net/f/8406211-lease-deal-2016-toyota-camry-se-automatic-for-135-month-or-less-and-0-down?v=1&src=SiteSearch

And this cruze for $37 a month ZERO DOWN:

http://slickdeals.net/f/8377299-2016-chevy-cruze-limited-1lt-automatic-for-37-month-or-less-and-0-down?v=1&src=SiteSearch

Im not lying, these deals DO EXIST.

Its just that to get them you cant be some NEET or total autist.

>>14214180
Subaru says otherwise.

>>14215396

JUST

Lots of dealerships are starting do do cheap short term leases, especially the luxury German brands. They take the car back after the lease, do the required maintenance and repairs, jack up the price accordingly then they re-lease it or re-sell it to some sucker "who doesn't like to pay for depreciation". Don't worry about dealerships not making enough profit on things, there's a reason why the dealership owners always stay baller rich.

>Skyactiv
>not shit
read for yourself
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homogeneous_charge_compression_ignition#Disadvantages

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>>14215438
>a group of completely irrelevant no name shitters said something once, you should care

>>14215047

>Thinking about a Volkswagen when someone says R32

ISHYDIGGITYGIGGITY

>>14213256
PUSHRODS

>>14213297
boomer detected

>>14215870
im 25 you faggit i just grew up with old 70's-90s cars

>>14213256
Hemispherical heads

>>14214958

Kia theta II 2.4 gdI is 200 hp /186 tq

>>14213256
Skyactiv isn't car tech though. It's a selection of car tech with a marketing name slapped on it.

The combination of that tech does result in one of the most efficient engines currently on the market, if not the most efficient.

>>14213256
>>14213320
>>14213332
>>14213348
Each car manufacturer gives their engines an eco-friendly sounding name nowadays. Skyactiv simply sounds better to the average consumer than, say, ZL-VE.

>>14213297
>hybrid tech
Allows for true torque vectoring and energy recuperation.
>VVT
Allows the engine to perform better across a wide RPM range.
>driver aids
>implying you can out-panicbrake ABS

>>14213343
MPG claims from standardised tests (which car manufacturers specifically design their cars for) are always bullshit. Anyone going by manufacturer's MPG claims is stupid anyways, just google the real world figures.

>>14213502
Direct injection means limited injector size(PITA if you're upgrading), and it usually means carbon buildup on the intake valves. Now, manufacturers could just install a single injector near the throttle body, and squirt some petrol in there every no and then to prevent buildup - but dealerships apparently love cleaning intakes valves (and grabbing your money).

>>14214180
...which is why all high-end Quattro systems (A6 and up) are longitudinal and RWD-biased, right? As was the Ur-Quattro.

>>14215555
Current Skyactiv doesn't use HCCI yet.

>Cold start
>Autoignition is hard to control
Are probably two problems they have fixed. OTherwise, you can't bring that engine to the customer market.

>High wear
>Damage to engine
Mazda needs to warranty these - so they'll have to precisely control the combustion in order to bring these wear factors down.

>small powerband
Which can be solved by letting it use conventional SCSI when you put your foot down.

>>14215870
>>Pushrods
What is
>packaging
>performance density
>weight
>simplicity
>one camshaft per two cilinder banks
>easy to use variable displacement by shutting down lifters
>can rev to 9.5K
>can still use multivalve
Both pushrods and OHC have their advantages.

>>14216169
>valves can be bigger than bore size
>straighter intake and exhaust ports
>greater heat dispersion
Hemi heads can be great. Shame about the lost CR though.

You guys are forgetting the glorious part..
>14:1 compression and rising for incomparable fuel efficiency

Push button start and those huge infotainment consoles that look like someone tried sticking an iPad in a car, I mean how am I supposed to use that while I'm driving? Can't take time to read the screen while I'm focusing on the road can I? As for push button start it's stupid and I imagine someone could start hacking them and breaking in with false codes or however those things work.

>>14216438
>yet
Exactly because its shit
>>14216397
>Allows for true torque vectoring and energy recuperation.
current battery tech adds hundres of kilos of dead weight to the car
>>14216397
>Allows the engine to perform better across a wide RPM range.
Bullshit do you think the LS1 needs that shit cunt? Git fucked

>>14216904
>Bullshit do you think the LS1 needs that shit cunt? Git fucked
are you really comparing the power delivery of a 5l v8 performance engine to a range of sub 2l econobox engines? you git fucked

>>14216904
>Bullshit do you think the LS1 needs that shit cunt?
Maybe not the performance LS engines, but about half of it's family members use VVT.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LS_based_GM_small-block_engine#Details

>>14216904
>dead weight
They eventually add power to the car. Hardly ''dead'' - by that same logic, an engine and petrol tank are also dead weight.

>>14215059
>leasing a vw
That's all you had to say. Now the entire world knows you're a faggot

>>14213332
the words ECO and BOOST should never be in the same sentence.

fucking fred ruining tarbos

>>14214190
That piston shaft looks smaller than the B6 miata rods.

>>14213343
Octane rating too.
>runs on 87
>but it is recommended you run it at 91 or higher

>>14214934
Enjoy getting btfo by k20a civics

>>14220059
>a stock car will get btfo by a modified car
stop. the. presses.

>>14213256
>it doesn't make me go faster
>it isn't louder
>it must be shit

>>14220111
What's the point of a technology that doesn't actually improve your driving experience?

>>14220123
everything else?

>>14215594
>Subaru
>no-name
m8

>>14215059
>I don't care what car I take the best deal

>calls others kikes

Come on, anon

>>14220214
>there's something wrong if you don't let a business arse fuck you
lmao kike detected

>>14215129
>>why are you calling out someone on their bullshit so others don't get conned?
Why would you do this instead of have a raff after they get conned?

>>14220227
>Paying more for what you want

>Take the lowest possible payment on a shitbox

You tell me which one is quite Jewish.

>>14214916
>retard buildup

>>14213256
Direct injected high compression. The name is a gimmicks but the technology sure as fuck isn't. Loved driving those cars around

>>14215396
holy shit those are cheap

>>14214197
>>14214309
>>14215438
>>14216426

I want these Jalopnik loving, RCR kiddos to leave.

>>14215100
>I even got the lamps
Kill yourself

I never understood the hype for this skyactiv/ecoboost shit. Its just another marketing bullshit by car companies, literally i never saw any difference with this new cars

>>14220353
I hate read jalopnik is there any actual good blogs that don't rehash articles and ßort-of-clever ideals? Same with gawker, I hate the leftist shit but the layout and spread of info is tolerable

>>14220678
Sort*

>>14220635
skyactiv means something though, its the name for mazdas line of super high comp direct injection petrol and turbo diesel engines. all tech exclusive to mazda.

not like fords "huur slap a turbo on it, call it uhh yeah ecoboost"

>>14220635
Ignore the stupid name and it's effective tech

>>14220701
Ecoboost just means direct injection+turbo, just like Skyactiv means direct injection+high compression.

>>14220701
so skyactiv is placebo then

>>14221035
what makes you think that?
it's just a brand name for a generation of engines

>>14221049
why market it hard then. Mazda makes it look like snake oil 2.0

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>>14221064
>why market it hard then. Mazda makes it look like snake oil 2.0

What makes you think it's snake oil when the technology actually works? You fucking retarded piece of shit.

>>14221064
>I understand the technology works but why use that fact to sell more cars?

>>14221105
>>14221294
nah, its placebo. Never felt any difference

>b-but mpg

>>14221442
If only there were proper measuring methods to verify whether all that tech made a difference or not....

>>14221476
yeah well they somehow run out of things to market, so why not just call our new engine skyactiv!!! our customers our drooling fucking retards so itll click!!

They shouldve just put anti-rust coating and Im sold

>>14221442
>I can't feel it, must not be different.

The tech objectively performs better - they use that fact to market them - they named it so normies could recognize and repeat it.

If you think the name is a dumb name then just say it. But if you don't understand why they'd name an engine to sell more cars that use that engine you're a hopeless sperger.

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>>14214916
This.

>>14224097
So the intake cleaner that goes through the brake booster vacuum line will be more than snake oil now?

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>>14224575
Most DI are turbos. Do they have vacuum brake boosters? I wouldn't like that carbon in solid chunks ending up in the combustion chamber.

>>14216397
The idea of an upstream jet would be nice. E.g. an idle jet or something less relevant like that. Maybe manufacturers don't like the idea of turning their DI r&d effort into a fucking carb? I haven't heard of dealers making huge profits on intake cleaning. Usually the problem must be noticed at the point when the intake is completely clogged.

>>14213256
actually the skyactiv motor ran the highest specific outpout of the imsa series last year...
Just a 2 liter diesel engine outputting well over 200 hp / liter for endurance racing.
And yes, they used the block you find in your streetcar.

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>>14216898
i think its RFID but yes I wholly agree

>>14226360
No one cares