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Anything applies. Muscle, landbarge, trucks, European, Japanese. If its older than 25 years post about it here.
ayyyy lmao. check out this cadillac I saw in vegas.
I am kind of tempted to get some pin striping like this done on my truck, before I end up painting it again. thoughts?
In a couple weeks I'm gonna buy a classic, budget's about 3k but I have a decent paying job and I live in Commiefornia so I'll have a good selection. I'm really drawn to this 67 Tempest because of reasons, even though I could get something else that's actually drivable for the price. Wat do?
Sent out the old block to get align bored, honed, and bead blasted a couple days ago. We found out we have full floating Keith black pistons, forged rods, and a cross drilled eagle crank. Sorry about my shitty instagram screenshots
What's your guys favorite pre war classic? Personally I'm a huge fan of the Plymouth roadking
But I also really like the Pontiac Torpedo, although that was kind of late.
What are some other cars that almost were technological breakthroughs but then faded into obscurity because they innovated only a single thing or their innovations weren't industry firsts, only combined cleverly?
>1961 Pontiac Tempest
>for once not a giant barge
>transaxle for 50/50 weight distribution and no transmission hump in cockpit
>arched, flexible torque shaft to eliminate vibrations
>independent suspension on all four corners
>standard engine was a clever, spiffy I4 that was basically half a Pontiac V8
>optional engine was Buick's brand new, superlight alumin(i)um V8
One of the better things about 2016 is that I can also post Miata '90 in this thread.
I feel like the 56 fury checks some of those boxes. It might have been a year too early for the torsion bar front end but it did have one of the first V8s offered in a Plymouth. An engine Plymouth pretty much built themselves too.
It really kicked off Plymouth's muscle car heritage
duesenberg SJ. the most powerful and fastest car at the time, had a 320hp supercharged I8 in the 20s and early 30s. I recommend doing some research on them, they were technological marvels and are still fascinating today.
Tough one to answer because not only are the lines of the era blurred, technically it means every car from before the war but most people only think of the last decade, but also because it's tempting to simply drop a go-to name for technological innovation or beauty.
My easy answers would be Tatra 87 for the European market and Cord 812 for the American market, but in order to pay dues to something that probably no one else will mention I'm going to nominate the Graham Hollywood, which is the product of licensing the Cord after its discontinuation, making the features list much shorter, converting it to RWD with a Graham-Paige engine, thus eliminating the need for the long front and designing a shorter, different looking front onto it which in my opinion still makes the car look gorgeous. Yes, stripping a revolutionary car this much is an atrocity before the Lord, but I can't help but still like it. And it's much cheaper and considerably more plentiful than the original Cord which means I'm in reach of owninf one someday. Graham were also the ones who made the eccentric looking sharknose in the late 30s.
...do this! tracking headlights in the 20s! not even the GTR has these!
wow that is gorgeous
>how did the car handle that much power
well they weighed like 2.5 tons. they were p fast though, 0-60 in 8 seconds, with an unsynchronized transmission. comfy AF too.
It really sucks I will never have a real chance to own a nice pre-50s car
nice as in good clean restored condition or nice as in an expensive and super high end classic?
>my dick when mercedes 540k
No, was going to try to today but the dealer is closed. There's one for sale locally that I want to test drive but in true craigslist form the guy never emailed me back.
I really wish I had the budget for a decent WRX
Just not sure what's a good camera to start with and a starter dslr is 2x here what they cost in burgerland for example
>talking to a group of JDM tyte guys
>they're talking about their S chassis' and shit
>"I want to get a fucking 240 man, but they're all beat to shit here"
>"What do you guys think about old muscle cars? Like Novas and shit"
>"My buddy owns a Nova, I think its a Nova, and that shit's mean. He starts it up and you can hear it from like two blocks away"
>"Would you ever own one? They're fucking awesome right?"
>"Nah man, I'd rather build my own car"
>"besides those old Nissans the aftermarket is really cheap"
When are old muscle cars going to lose the "old folks" stigma? Everyone loves them but it seems like nobody wants them because >implying bad aftermarket for SBC's >only old guys drive them.
>when are old muscle cars going to lose the "old folks" stigma
never. but that doesn't mean it is a bad thing.
I'd kill for an early 70's Camaro RS. None are affordable in euroland. Will settle for a 77-81 model. They're still bad as fuck. '
I hope 2016 is the year, bros.
>tfw getting closer but still so far.
Think about those muscle cars. Think about those same guys, doing those tasteless and shitty modifications... not to 90's ecoboxes, but to 50+ year old muscle cars, trying to drift them, and slapping bandaids (because steel doesn't crack, so no zipties) or some dumb shit they think is a badge of honor because they hit a fucking tree trying to drift or something.
It doesn't really bother me so long as they aren't being destroyed out of stupidity. At least it's in good condition, it can be saved, later. I don't even really like ferds, or mustangs particularly, but I'm not trying to dump on anyone else's fun, either.
I would do ANYTHING that allows me to still be able to drive and enjoy this car:
that's a beauty. probably one of the prettiest and most imposing cars I have ever seen was this bad boy.
>this will be considered an american classic in our lifetimes
Years of browsing this website.
What makes that car more appealing than any situation in a porno could ever hope to be is the engine swap it received.
That's a 1,000+HP Rolls Royce Merlin engine.
It really won't. If at all, it'll be remembered as a turd like the AMC Gremlin.
I would like to criticise, but deep down I know I'm just jealous of America's lax modification laws.
it's got a bitching LSX in it though, and yeah it is nice. only some times I get pissed off, like when a guy put a traction avant body with a corvette running gear and terrible chromed wheels.
bruh. it's a caricature of classics.
An Excalibur has beautiful classic looks in the same way a mansion style American residential house looks like an English manor, by which I mean it doesn't if you know what the originals look like.
I only like the looks of the Series III; it's the closest thing to daily driving a '30s Mercedes.
Though, if the deal with it falls through, I'm going to get a '60s Rolls Royce.
Get the 60s Rolls or Bentley, they are pretty cheap for what they are, rides better than any new luxury car (aside from newer hydraulic suspension cars)
I used to own pic related, but I sold it before I moved to Texas because it wasn't cost-effective to transport and restore.
All my friends make fun of me for my barge. Does it count as classic yet?
I would captain that ship so hard.
My buddies drive a focus and a beetle so the dynasty is pretty barge tier.
Are there any good resources/tools to find fixable classic cars for cheap? Every time I search for them I find really nice restored cars but I'm just looking for an abandoned one to bring back.
My Valiant is my daily driver
The biggest worry i have is the car being defected or breaking down. To an extent, the police can defect your car for anything so theres not much i could do to prevent this so long as corrosion isn't excessive
How can i make my car more reliable? something that has a 99.9 percent surefire that its not going to break down or fail?
That's pretty much what ya got. If you want the reliability of a new car, it has to be a new car. Parts aren't meant to last forever in any environment.
But if you're broke as hell like me, just take care of the essentials when they come up best you can and hope you don't get screwed.
well, the truck is finally back on the road
Now I need a new stereo, cause the old one decided to just not work, when the truck is running.
Now I just need to find out what jet size the carb is going to need
I'm at the next chapter with my build and I am unsure of how to proceed. I am on a budget and trying to keep this as cheap as possible, but also want to get it driveable.
I installed the wrong oil pan, and now the exhaust doesn't clear and can't connect to the manifold.
Drop oil pan
Replace with oil pan that will clear exhaust. (gaskets ~$30)
Buy an exhaust kit $300
Drive with headers to exhaust shop
The driver side can connect. But the passenger side wont reach.
Ghetto rig a flex connection to go from manifold to exhaust. $30?
Muffler is rotted out on stock exhaust and it will eventually get replaced. Although, I kind of want to just change the exhaust. As my man-hours to pull the engine out, reinstall everything, re-time, will probably be about the same as just a new exhaust kit. I'm guessing it will take me 2 days to complete as I have no helpers to help pull engine and reinstall. It was a bitch last time.
The oil pan also has a pretty bad leak that I need to fix. My research told me that GM still says a plug that has sort of a gasket built into it. That plus some of that string stuff to fix it.
Hopefully that will stop my leak.
Sweet, glorious, succulent Apaches. Reveal yourself to me at a price that I can afford, shine your light down upon me and carry me to Valhalla.
One day you will be mine.
those are some pretty white looking chinese people.
feels good man
Just like pic related.
The '30s had the best luxury cars.
In Wisconsin it does in a legal sense. Honestly though I'm not sure the Dodge Dynasty will ever be a classic though anon. Maybe if your into that kind of car you'd like a Dodge Aspen? They ate starting to gain a little more cred as a classic, and they are in a similar vein as the Dynasty.
man fuck me if its not impossible to tell the difference between an 80 Aspen, an 80 Malibu, and an 80 Fairmont. Malibu is easy because of the angled chrome headlight bezels
Before like 73/74 it was easy, just by the car's lines you can tell if it was Chrysler/GM/Ford. In the 80's it was just squares and rectangles.
>That kinda looks like a supercharger at the front.
that's because it is a bentley with a blower on the front.
fuck mang, check it out or at least get pictures. that is a dank breed.
I feel the Corvair using a 6 cylinder air cooled boxer engine, rear engined positioning and swing axle suspension design was pretty amazing for a conservative American company like Chevrolet
True, all cars did get kind of samey, but it wasn't a bad design. What was the deal with that anyone? Did everyone just shamelessly copy each other?
I've always disliked the 78ish monte carlo though, that body line is pretty cartoonish
>What was the deal with that anyone? Did everyone just shamelessly copy each other?
friend I am going to tell you something, but this is not just an 80s thing. it has always and will always be like that.
fair enough. snow looks cool at junkyards though
I know man, I was on my way to a junk yard when I saw it, the junk yard was awesome, they even had a 71 roadrunner.
Too bad it was one of those places that doesn't let people walk around
The hood mounted indicators are a dead mopar give away. I love them so much though.
I really feel like the cars just had more originality in the 60s/early 70s. Thats the one time you could pretty much tell almost all of them apart from each other
It's one of my favorite things to walk through junkyards.
4 door, but it is a 265 cid V8 with the 3 on the tree. damn shame.
oh wait that one was a 2 door sedan, I think it was an I6. the 4 door was a 265 and a 3 speed.
Junkyards make me feel nostalgic, relaxed, and sad.
Junkyards filled with old classics makes me so sad
Am I the only one who loves boxy 80s cars? I don't know what it is but when I saw my first 80s caprice I fell in love. I have now owned 4 cars and all of them were from the 80s and I have enjoyed all of them. I'm even in california where they have to pass emissions standards. Yes they are slow but it's not too hard to change that. And I'll still get thumbs up everywhere I go. Yes, my dream is to own a car from pre-smog car from the 50s to early 70s but something about ugly boxy rectangles gets me.
it is sad, I just want to bring a truck and save them all.
I like certain of them.
I like 80s Cadillacs, and maybe some others. The 80s wasn't all that bad for style, just engines.
I definitely wouldn't mind have an 80s caddy
I get you on that, the engines were horrible. The engines where they implemented the first "computers" like the cadillac 8-6-4 were terrible. But I would still love a 80s cadillac as well
So how the hell do I go about jetting my carb anyways? I know the 64 jet is too rich right now. How will I know what the perfect jet size even is?
even by reading plugs, I would only know if I found the proper-ish jet size, then after that I don't know if plugs would tell you the difference between one jet size up or down.
Why would I, nerd?
Cuz you're a nerd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>family used to have heirloom 60's camaro (don't know year or trim)
>family business closed
>selling the camaro was the endgame
One day I hope to be able to find that same camaro again, to buy back; not anytime soon, but eventually.
If you had restored a 60's muscle car and someone came up to you saying they previously owned it and wanted to buy it back for a price you couldn't refuse, would you part ways with it?
Got the engine lubed up and broken free
Fucking struggling to figure out how to get the goddamn E-CLIP that holds the brake drums out, however. Picture coming soon.
1948 MG TC
I need to remove the kind of E-Clip or Circlip shown in the top picture. I also need to replace the wheel bearing but can't figure out for the life of me how to do it. I know it is in there, how does it come apart though?
body is in dry storage. It is in good shape but is not being dealt with at present while I work on the major mechanicals.
Only rust is on the rear inner fenders. I also have all the new wood components upstairs.
I plan on doing that a little bit for shits and giggles with a lawn chair bolted to the frame and old school driving goggles on.
Seriously though, how do I get that circlip off and that flange apart, this has been bugging me for weeks now.
you did not sell the 59. tell me you did not sell the 59.
No, sold it for $19,500.00. I paid $17,500 a few years ago, spent a couple hundred on parts, and about $1,000.00 on miscellaneous items for it.
I'll take pictures of it when it's leaving, but I now have $24,000.00 to spend on a new fun car.
I sold it to try something new. For once, I'm going to buy a car that doesn't require any significant work to be driven daily.
I'm probably going to buy the Excalibur I've had my eyes on, but, if not, I'm open to any suggestions on what to buy for $24,000.00.
A pair of snap ring pliers should do the trick. And as for the wheel bearings, if it's like the Jaguar wheels it's just a castle nut that you have to take off inside the splined hub. The annoying part is the removal of the cotter pin through a small hole in the side of the hub, then the hub comes off. The bearings look to be open ball bearings which mean you have to pack them well with grease and might possible need heat and a press to get them out and in.
I'm going to miss the old girl...
You better take lots of pictures of the Excalibur
If you wouldn't mind skipping that first stipulation, I would get a MINT mercedes benz 500E
I wouldn't mind a Mercedes-Benz 450SEL 6.9; maybe another Silver Shadow?
Sedan or sports car?
For $24k you could get a nice Triumph TR6 or Datsun 240Z.
I imagine a nice New Yorker or Corvair could be had for that money. And If you want something a little different a Saab 99 turbo is always a good choice.
I'm half tempted to type "hot rod" into the local Craigslist and start lowballing boomers, then use what's left to buy a nice truck.
Probably another barge. The DeLorean is a competent European tourer and nothing beats the comfort of a classic barge.
I think the real answer here, if for whatever reason you didn't get the Excalibur, is a 1959/60 Lincoln.
Just look at dat ass
How about an oldsmobile? A great barge would be a 1963 Oldsmobile Starfire.
>Probably another barge.
Then my vote would be for a early to mid 60's New Yorker, Imperial or Continental, but I think the latter 2 are going to be more than your price limit.
How about a Checker Marathon?
I love it, but it's out of my price range. Maybe a mid-'60s Continental?
I hadn't even thought of that; something with a 455 could be fun.
I kinda want to buy pic related.
For $1k more you could have yourself a cool as hell Plymouth Belvedere
Cool as hell, but all that rust O.O
I need to get my Cadillac over to the shop so I can get going on the restoration. I'd love to go crusin' around in it.
They're a dealer, so they'd take less. Though, I could try for pic related, leave it looking like it does, and add a modern drivetrain.
I had a 79 ford camper with a 5 liter straight 6, till the government here decided it wasn't an oldtimer and charged us 970 euros a year in road taxes. :'D
Sorry but that's just too much.
I also own a BMW e30 we re-built as a racecar.
Not bad. I wouldn't mind a Delta 88, either.
Are you aware of how much $15K can get you for classic cars? If you're not super picky, you can get a really nice DD classic for $3000-$6000.
not him but where I live the prices and cars are kind of all over the place
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/5393307466.html (67 Valiant - $7K)
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/5399226214.html (65 Barracuda - $18K)
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/cto/5367618072.html (71 Valiant - $3K)
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/5382722225.html (64 Dart - $5K)
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/5391359053.html (74 Dart - $7K)
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/5375117122.html (74 Duster - $6K)
just gotta look man
I am in favor of you getting c body fueselage chrysler product. preferably a plymouth fury.
truth. one of the prettiest cars I have ever seen, and one of my favorite photos I have ever taken was of this beautiful 66 (65?) imperial convertible.
>tfw 62 or 63 Chrysler Imperial Le Baron was for sale near me for $3200 and it was in very good shape with $1200 recently put in to engine to get it running well
>tfw no money and already own 3 vehicles
I'm a professional mechanic and I have never heard of anybody bending snap ring pliers, so I'd say yes. Also I'd suggest buying a TC workshop manual, Moss Motors should have them.
the 59 cadillac will always be a magnificent sight.
I know that the 59 Cadillac has become an icon of car design, and I appreciate them, but for some reason I've always preferred the styling of other years. I think the lower fins of the 1960 fit the body better and make a much nicer, clean, sleek looking car. And my '58 is a good looking car that I don't think gets the attention and recognition it deserves.
I personally prefer the 62-66 more. slab sides are best sides.
Not a bad looking car
Personally if it's American I'm a mopar guy. I'd love to get an Imperial at some point, to me that's the pinnacle of 50's-60's American luxury. Good looking designs, be it the Forward Look cars of Virgil Exner or the later cars of Elwood Engel, they always had style, comfort, and were well engineered. There's a reason the Imperials are still banned in demolition derbys, you can't kill them even in an accident.
I think almost all manufacturers (save for AMC and a few others) had gorgeous designs from the era. personally, I love Mid 60s ford, and early 60s GM the most.
this was on highway 89 in southern utah, between mt. zion and bryce canyon.
don't worry it's just a four door (unless they made 4 door SS's
1966 Acadian Canso Sport Deluxe 2 Door, SBC 327 Built, Munci 4 Spd Manual (With Super T-10 Internals) 10 Bolt Rear 3:73's Posi Trac. 2,800lbs Weight.
iktf, I'm ~20 and I drive a '64 Cortina and a '74 Manta A, normies don't understand why I drive "old cars".
so why do you drive old cars? their prime were past your time, they require alot more maintenance, expensive, scarce and uncomfortable
theres no nostalgia, how could you want these old cars?
Yeah but with the Corvair it's like they went all out in exactly the least effective ways. There was no real need to develop a flat six, the engine made no power, and the suspension layout paired with the weight distribution made for absolutely horrid driving characteristics. If they had gone a little further on the Tempest instead of developing the Corvair seperately, the Tempest could've become an auto engineering milestone.
Welp, at least the second gen looks good.
On the other hand auto history is lucky to even have gotten the Tempest. Originally GM didn't even want to grant Pontiac a seperate model and instead wanted to badge engineer the Corvair as the Pontiac Polaris, but John DeLorean (yes, that DeLorean) and a few other high ranking Pontiac engineers were very well aware of the Corvair's shortcomings and managed to convince headquarters to let them develop a car of their own on the same fundamental platform as the compact Buick Skylark and Oldsmobile Cutlass GM were about to release to save some of the costs, and then they saved more costs by cutting a Pontiac V8 in half as the base Tempest engine.
>so why do you drive old cars? their prime were past your time, they require alot more maintenance, expensive, scarce and uncomfortable
>theres no nostalgia, how could you want these old cars?
Specifically speaking for American classics, they are not past their prime, they have huge potential. While you're right, they do need a bit more maintenance, the maintenance is cheaper. a new timing chain and gasket set for my car is around 30 bucks.
As for comfort, I have never driven a car that was as comfortable as my classic, while still handling well.
>dat magnificient ass
>front is so utterly generic you could mistake it for any number of cars from the era
I don't even get angry when cars look great on one end and bad or forgettable on the other end, I only get sad.
I got my intake manifold resealed, I haven't had a chance to see if the oil leak has been cured by doing that. I've been fixing some odds and ends type stuff, just generally making sure everything is ready for it to be driven more frequently.