Our prayers have been answered. A headunit that is quality and doesn't look like it belongs in a F&F movie.
Boy, I think they know their market judging by that shifter.
Wait, never mind, everyone go home. The damn thing costs 1500 dollars.
>buy 50 dollar amp and an ipod cord
>congrats you now have a hyperminimalist head unit
Eh, I've never bothered tinkering with the head unit on my shitbox, but wouldn't it be possible to recover the front of it with a new plate and knobs, since that's all that's showing? Making that wouldn't be hard with a 3D printer, or better, a CNC machine. It'd be hard to get a precise level of good detail, but that wouldn't be too hard if you were trying to go minimalist.
>tfw you have a cheap $40 car stereo with bluetooth/usb/sd support
I could upgrade that to a touchsystem with bit more feature set for about $50 more if I wanted, but I don't give a shit about touch system. The functionality and the sound quality is all I care about and my cheapo stereo does the work.
Reddit made a very nice box mod, granted it is 3 months overdue, I just got notice it was in the mail.
We follow the same model. Get some pre-orders to cover the tooling and materials and go from there, after we have a few working prototypes to field test.
Injection molded body, an audrino, DAC/Amp a nice power supply.
Wont be more than $300 to the customer, and whoever joins in can get a noice slice of the pie.
We just rent a place and work there for a few months prototyping and designing tooling. A CNC or 3D Printer would be the single most expensive non-consumable.
>WAT - Wat Audio Technologies
>Now with 50% more hot glue
this seems like an excellent opportunity for a kickstarter
like a $200 no frills very minimalist design single din that does aux/bluetooth/phonecall integration and nothing else
I don't think you appreciate how complicated making something nonshit is.
just designing the machines to make the thing will take thousands of man hours
have you thought about doing stand up?
I would try to push the focus on high quality, large buttons that provide positive feedback, and a single large dial.
>Volume + click in as action button
>Context sensitive Phone combo button (Pause play, accept reject call skip song)
>USB out for charging (USB audio for Apple devices?)
>Simple 2x8 char display for Clock, Menu, and Information
It won't be a single board solution, and the most challenging items would be the Board for the face plate controls, rear I/O panel, and the wiring harness to connect the Computer with the AMP buttons and I/O.
Not even beginning on the programming side of things. I can't code for shit.
It's like I'm buying a second shitbox.
Jesus fuck Sony, did you chisel out of rare earth metals? In all honesty, I did a Kenwood single DIN from Best Buy, and after I color matched the LED's to my cars natural button colors, it didn't even look that bad
How much of the body is molded? Just the front? I'm in design and fabrication and I use 3D printing and CNC'ing on a pretty regular basis, never had any experience with injection molding though.
what about a (don't know the word) that works by recycling a specific hu from the 80s with modern internals?
as long as you can supply the old head unit to be modified it can be done on an exchange basis.
obviously it would need to exist in reasonable numbers and look decent.
making buttons and knobs isn't cheap, hence the shift to touchscreens in car interiors
>mfw someone opens it up and the components dont even come to $150
wew modern sony eh guys? QUALITYYYYYYYYYYYYY
There was a really minimal head unit that used to get posted here occasionally. Thing was like $50, no stupid flashing LEDs, looked pretty decent. I cannot, for the life of me, remember what the fuck website it was on, though. I actually put one in my ex's car, but I'll be damned if I get in touch with her to figure out what head unit it was.
I know the website was a .au domain, and it had a .com mirror, but I can't remember anything else about it.
I think we could get away with a plastic body, but stamped metal would be the best (most expensive) And the face plate would be molded of course, and we could publish the specs so 3rd parties could go fucking nuts.
if it could be designed to have removable faceplates + buttons + knob, and those could be swapped out for different kinds of materials like brushed aluminum, glossy black, matte grey (old plastic), matte black, it could work extremely well and blend with many different interiors
I've been looking for OEM style for a while now.
Just want tuner, USB and BT.
This is as close as I've come without picking something from another car:
Fuck I do like the look of that, but...
>No HD Radio
>Can't wire into factory steering wheel controls
>2 channel out
Something that looked like that, but with a 200 dollar price tag and features to match would be amazing
> Can't wire into factory steering wheel controls
I know jack shit about car audio, is this a thing and is it expensive? I fucking hate the speakers/stereo in my 500 and one of the things holding me back from changing it is losing the steering wheel controls.
Yes, and that's a choice that needs to be made. Some people would trade dat dere $100 uber sound quality for not having an epileptic fit from the cyberpunk dildo attached to their dashboard.
Why compromise anything for any other thing? It's all about the individual's priorities. That head unit will work for some people, with some priorities. Other head units will work better for other people with other priorities.
pic related some inspiration
yeah they're usually proprietary systems that are incompatible with anything else.
Yeah i don't get it personally. I'd spend 1500 for the sound quality but I don't sit there taking photos of my centre console and staring at it till i get triggered into a spergout.
As long as the interior is comfy and clean I'm happy.
>I know jack shit about car audio, is this a thing and is it expensive?
It's totally a thing, PAC makes a control module that wires to the radio that lets you retain all your factory steering wheel controls.
I've done it on both my Mercedes that I switched radios in, and it worked flawlessly
I just find it ridiculous people are so obsessed with the visual design they're literally buy a head unit with some of the worst internal specs you can find nowadays. It's like the logical extreme of form over function, and screaming MUH DESIGN doesn't change the fact it's a shit head unit with an OEM-ish design.
And I find it ridiculous that people are so obsessed with having the absolute best audio quality to the extent that they'll literally buy something that looks like it was shat out by the Kool-Aid man and then have that shit flashing in their car like a personal rave every time they turn the key.
But we are different people, and I respect the fact that you want that. I want a head unit that specifically does not do that thing, and this is what I have found, and I decided to share that for the people that have similar priorities to me.
he's right it's hellaflush with dashboards, and you're a disgusting stancefag on a par with GS400 and swagrabbit.
most people spend more time listening to their car stereo than looking at it and taking photos of it to post on instagram or whatever the fuck you scene kids do
>just bought a head unit for my truck
>taking out the chinkshit SD/MP3DVD/Aux
>putting in a high end "Infinity" OEM
>5-band physical EQ, Balance/Fader joystick
>$4 at Goodwill
Anybody know the best brand of tape adapters?
Call me a stance-fag all you want. That lends a load of credibility to your argument. I just want something that doesn't flash bright as shit on my dashboard constantly. It's a distraction, and it's annoying. My truck is a piece of shit. I intend to put a cheap head unit in there that doesn't flash brightly. This is what I've found. Keep being upset that somebody likes different things than you. You're welcome to contribute something that has better specs that fits the criteria of "Doesn't flash brightly colored LEDS constantly" for a similar price point.
We're on the same wavelength with design, I'm just in the market for a nice head unit for my E36 M3 that isn't Kool Aid man's shitty rave dildo but also has good internal specs. It's an impossible task. In a way I envy your compromise.
Hey, if I could find something that had better internal specs and also didn't look ludicrous, I'd be all about that. But not for $1500. I don't drive an M3 though, so I'm a little bit more willing to cheap out on what I put in there, audio-wise.
It's really nice, you just have to make sure the replacement radio supports steering wheel control integration. It's not that bad now, because even Best Buy lists it a sortable feature when you go to look at radio's on their website.
>he doesn't ever argue for the fun of it
>Implying I need a credible argument when calling you a stancefag triggers you into writing essays.
get the rave dildo and use tail lamp tint my man
The best I can come up with is this Alpine one. $199, good internals and a decent, if flashy, design. It'll look significantly better without all the unless text around the display I'd think.
Compromise. Stock deck only has a tape deck, no audio in, and is honestly breaking down. This has audio input, so I can choose what I want to listen to, is cheap, and doesn't look like shit. That's a compromise I'm willing to make. I don't expect that's what everybody wants, unlike some other people here who "MUH WAY IS BEST WAY."
That's actually not too bad at all. Thanks, m8.
fucking hate Alpine. Had two 1K+ Alpine head units die (pic very related). Neither of them even lasted a year. Thankfully Best Buy stepped up and gave me a dollar for dollar refund on both. Went to Kenwood and have never looked back
Because it's a tape head unit. Chinkshit with all them features has shit sound. Decently priced name brand head units all look ugly as fuck and this one is OEM for my car, plus it has physical EQ and fader/balance which are features I want.
The one time I bought something off a friends recommendation, and it turned into a total pile of garbage. Those fuckers ran Windows XP embedded, and after dealing with two of those things, came to find out they had shit loads of problems
The Kenwood I replaced it has been fantastic, and the the navigation is powered by garmin, and you get lifetime maps and traffic through Garmin when you buy the head unit
To me double DIN is only worth it if you do a system that has navigation, and your car has steering wheel controls that let you bypass having to use the touch screen for audio
It's a super pain in the ass having to use a touchscreen for doing normal shit like the radio or bluetooth
Turn all the way counterclockwise to turn off
turn clockwise to turn on/adjust volume
push to select mode AM/FM/Aux/USB
Made of anodized aluminum
push left or right to skip song/ adjust channel.
Hold left or right half second to skip play list/scan channels
center button pauses or plays or selects channel is scanning
gabon ebony or black anodized aluminum or black stained bamboo NOT FUCKING PLASTIC
channel/song name/whatever else displayed in Helvetica Neue light standard
If you have the means to order a batch I'm sure you could find buyers. Give me a cut or I'll sue you.
I'd buy it, assuming the internals are good. Will it have at least 6 preamp outputs at at least 4 volts each and have a good DSP and DA?
A challenger approaches
I'd go with black aluminum for the faceplate, even if your car is luxurious enough to have wood trim, It probably wouldn't match, in which case I imagine it'd just look out of place, good design though.
Another mock-up with different face plate
Ask this guy >>14200998
why must we only have front usb?
howabout rear usb's so we can run cords from behind the unit to wherever we want out of sight. i cant stand having cables dangling off the front of my head unit
That's my biggest grip with touch screen, it's not something you can reach your hand over and adjust everything without taking your eyes off the road. It's great for shit like phones and maybe even computers but in your car it makes every minor task like changing a station or adjusting the sound a danger.
I have a small flash drive plugged into mine with my tunes.
Yup, if you don't have steering wheel controls to supplement it, I wouldn't do it for exactly those reasons
For me, I can still change the source/volume/track/sation/playlist all from the steering wheel controls, so I never have to use the touch screen for anything beyond the navigation or the equalizer.
i have this too, but i also want to charge my phone, and maybe my girlfriend's phone too and she wants to play music off her phone. i don't want cables coming out of my cigarette lighter which clutters up the dash.
my current head unit has dual rear usb's so i have extension cables coming out of that, going under the carpet and coming out in the center console where they are easily hidden while not in use, and things stay tidy.
part of why i do things this way is to keep flash looking shit out of sight. it's a well known thing that cars with messy/cluttered interiors are far more likely to get broken into. when i lock up my car, i leave NOTHING in sight. no cables, no rubbish, no random bits of paper or anything. anyone that happens to look in the window sees NOTHING to suggest there might be something in there of any value.
One of the nice things on my 500, which I think they've changed in newer models, they put an AUX and USB in the glove box so if you have your MP3 player or something in there it's out of the way and you can control your iPod or whatever through the steering wheel controls.
I love it. Like gears said, I would want USB ports in the rear as well, as I don't like cords mucking up my center console. Let me run some numbers and send some emails. I'll send you one for free if it pans out and give you $1 per unit.
functionality & sound quality.
my 20 year old van doesn't have built in usb ports. but with a decent head unit, it does.
i actually have a single-din pioneer deh-80prs, it's actually a damn good unit. it was about $500usd when i bought it in 2012 and doesn't actually look tooo FnF compared to most. would recommend.
Sexy as fuck, I might make this my next microcontroller project.
I've been using nothing but a equalizer and external bluetooth dongle (RCA output) in my car.
Also, you guys know that it is usually possible to add an input/bluetooth to stock stereo systems, right? I've done it a few times for friends cars.
This guy cant hear a difference between component and coaxial speakers, lel.
Why can't they make something OEM looking that isn't complete shit
I don't think that the faceplate on the radio I put in my car looks too bad. It sounds decent and stays crisp at a high volume, plus the bluetooth is pretty nice. Turn the key and it connects to my phone and autoplays from my spotify playlist.
Im about sound quality first and looks second. I can always fabricate something to cover an ugly deck. Also why make it look great if your not going to make it perform great as well. Thats like badge swapping and putting on ground effects, while only being satasfied with basic intake and exhaust mods. /o/ wait...
I'd love to learn how,
Do you have a guide?
O shit nigga what are you doing. This nav is so tiny it can't be useful for anyone.
I'm sorry, but this is about as disgusting as the aftermarket one my car came with... which is to say, rather bad.
> buttons for ants
> cinematic display for ants
> microUSB for exactly no purpose
> that big piece of nothing
> for the price of a well running Toyota
No, fuck, just no. VDO's CD9303UB–CV and TR712UB-BU exist (they already cost much).
Pioneer did have one quite nice looking unit.
top portion is flush anti-glare clear plastic with two line OLED display behind the rest is soft touch plastic
top line is for information
bottom line is for the five soft buttons blow (like older BMW headunits)
the whole unit is canted outwards so the USB AUX plugs in underneath
I've found some knockoff that doesn't look too bad and costs 10 dollars.
I'm sure you could find many similar ones.
Just a shame so few cars have a single DIN head unit as standard now.
The USB port should be hidden and recessed so you don't have a thumb drive sticking out of your dash.
It should sit flush with the dash.
But apart from that why all the whinging about the $1500 price tag? It's not that much given everyone on /o/ claims to drive $40k vehicles.
>mfw my first car (2000 Focus) had just a shit AM/FM radio in it so I literally did just that except these speakers also came with a sub so I just tossed it in the back
Worked pretty well tbqh but it would always blow the fuse in the cheap inverter I had (poor af) since I needed to max out the volume to hear anything going faster than 40mph
Can you guys tell me if these are good or not?
>Also, you guys know that it is usually possible to add an input/bluetooth to stock stereo systems, right? I've done it a few times for friends cars.
Point me in the right direction senpai
Some units like the CDR 220 let you plug in a custom cable with a 3.5mm end to the CD changer port in the back to give you an AUX input
Costs like $10
>can only post one example
The end results is a AUX input for your stock stereo, what's the problem?
Using your car's FM receiver is a step down from a tape adapter in terms of quality. I know people here aren't concerned about quality but they're also not deaf.
That set up only makes sense in a car which you can't swap the head unit or wish not to due to it being collectible/a show car/whatever.
In someone's 90s shitbox they'd have better luck saving a little more pennies and buying a cheap aftermarket one.
I always thought the faceplates on most aftermarket stereos looked like crap, and most of them do.
However, it's something you sacrifice for audio quality.
On that note, I prefer kenwoods. I know there is some audiophiles that are having a seizure right now because I mentioned kenwood. However, I installed radio shit at best buy for about a year. Only saw 1 kenwood head unit take a crap and that was because the jeep owner had the jeep submerged in the water up to the snorkel. I have seen Aplines and Pioneers come back to the store in droves and they broke for no apparent reason.
>Doesn't mount flush
>no screen for information
>insane price, could get full Nav unit+High end stereo for this
Never said it was an FM transmitter, dumbass, but if you understood how wireless works you'd know it still uses the FM receiver. With the exception of HD radio, the sound processing is subpar compared to a proper aux input, USB or even Bluetooth.
What's with these nice looking European radios and not having detailed internal info published?
This VDO looks nice but even its advertising lacks certain attributes.
I'd buy one right now if I knew its preamp voltage, even though it's only 4 channel and doesn't have a good equalizer. Those details can be fix with a good sub amp slaving off the rear channel and an external equalizer/mixer..
>this is literally the ENTIRE list of benefits
inline modulators with those features exist as well
Money has nothing to do with it, If it's worth the money, you pay it. This isn't, it looks like shit, it fits like shit, and there's better options for a better cost.
Rich people don't go out and buy a $100,000 casio watch because it's expensive, they go and buy a fucking Rolex or Another watch that's worth the price for less.
>poor people in charge of knowing how money works
What about Carputers? Windows 10 is great for touch interfaces and i would love being able to hook up an SSD for all that music and the possibility of recording things around the car at all times
an LCD with an RGB backlight would probably be better
Fug I wish Delphi sold their heavy duty truck radios for a decent price.
By Radio you mean DJ? That's the only thing Radio's have over plugging in your device now, between long fucking advertisements, inconsistent signals, and bullshit sponsored content.
For me personally the looks of the unit does not matter all that much. I care about the features, wanting USB, AUX, DAB+ and maybe Bluetooth, and there is one more feature I want that I've not yet been able to find; a proper dimming-function, or maybe even a feature that would turn the screen off after ten seconds of inactivity or similar. Being able to change colors to match the rest of the interior lighting is nice and all, but they can still be too bright for my taste when driving at night
I have one with this design, but sadly the color is bright white and cannot be dimmed, which is a pain in my eyes at night. Due to this I've actually developed a habit of always having my right arm at 2 'o clock as it blocks the screen
>a feature that would turn the screen off after ten seconds of inactivity or similar
I would think most modern headunits should have something like this. Mine has a night mode that turns off the screen if you hold the eject button down for three seconds and it's an old high-end unit so you would think today's units would have something like it.
a $9 (with free shipping from China) head unit looks better than a lot of $150+ head units sold today. Only one set of RCA outputs though.
>Only saw 1 kenwood head unit take a crap and that was because the jeep owner had the jeep submerged in the water up to the snorkel.
Lol i am so guilty of this.
killed my poor jeeps electrics because driving it over the hood in floods all the time
that said my 2 year oil pioneer hasnt taken a shit but it was upmarket model that got replaced with a newer old pos
>my current headunit
Bluetooth skitz out sometimes but its the best sounding headunit ever and you can dim turn the leds/screen completely off and just use the buttons which i wish something every car stereo had, plus its fucking LOUD like louder than most amp'd systems
No, fuck that shit.
What I was talking about is opening up the stock stereo and doing a little soldering.
You find the internal amp inputs for either the radio or tape deck (Usually radio) and solder some wires to that. Add a switch and a headphone jack or an amazon bluetooth dongle and there you go.
One of the downsides is that unless you cut the traces from the radio to the amp and add a switch, you can hear the radio when your music gets quiet.
And unless the input you just added is completely disconnected when not in use, the radio will be extremely quiet. Not a problem if you use a headphone jack, but is an issue if you put a bluetooth dongle in there.
So if I'm adding a bluetooth dongle, I put a switch on the dashboard to disconnect it from the amp input so the radio sounds normal.
I got really lucky on my girlfriends Saab 9-5, the head unit had the ability for an in-car phone built in but was never used.
Added a bluetooth dongle and a small, multi-pole switch to disconnect the dongle and it sounds great.
There's even two wires that if connected will automatically mute the radio and display "TELEPHONE" on the information display.
I'm actually using that screen for my car information display project, pic related.
Here's a guide on how to do it with a Saab 9-5, aside from the "telephone input" part it is more or less the same for every other head unit.
Find internal radio amp, hijack signal, add switch.
Much easier if the board has silk screening telling you what is what.
Someone recommend me a simple-ass headunit that has USB, AUX and radio for 40-100 bucks
Otherwise the slavic man in pic related will beat your ass, steal your tools and sell them at a vegetable market
Some faggot changed mine with some after market one before I bought it
The fucking thing doesn't even have an aux cord. Just a casset tape thing but they still swapped it out.
Fuccking pisses me off just thinking about it
No. I'm also Slavic. We will make friends, get drunk and beat your ass because I convinced him that you were gonna fuck him over. Check and mate.
>proper dimming functions
i've been using higher-end pioneer units for over 10 years and they've always had an extra wire out the back that hooks into the factory lights circuit. you turn your park or headlights on and the whole head unit dims down. fucking brilliant.
as far as i've seen, feature doesn't exist on all the pleb-tier models
I remember aftermarket head units
The same ones that my friends would buy over their stock units because they wanted something that would play CDs and skip everytime they hit a bump in the road lol
i'm liking this
if it was $250, had satellite radio capabilities (antenna purchased separately) and had customizable light colors and brightness so you could match almost any interior, it would be perfect
How's this in comparison? Probably too many buttons but otherwise okay.