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Will the Corvette Racing C7R be able to take down the Canadian built Ford GT tomorrow?

http://www.imsatiming.com/Results/2016/WeatherTech Championship/00-Roar/WeatherTech Roar Daytona Practice 1.pdf
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If they made a race-car out of this would it count as murrican?

I don't care which car wins so long as either the Ford GT or the C7R wins over their euro and japanese opponents
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well, one of the corvettes burst into flame during practice 1, for whatever that's worth.
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>v6 ecoboost engine
c7r pls win, I don't want to be represented by the faggotry of that name at le mans
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>>14198900
Ford/Multimatic was an automatic shoe-in for participation at LeMans. They won't lose their spot on the grid in June.

Perks of being a factory team.
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>>14198915
Oh. The vette will get knocked out if it loses though right?
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>>14198799
Corvette beating GT?
Highly doubt it, one's a vette, and the other was made for gtlm and has much more engineering into it.

GT vs Ferrari is the only thing anyone should care about.
>##RematchOfTheCentury B>)))))

Also built it canada
>Built by Multimatic in Canada
>----------Ford designed it

All you're doing is putting it together. Stop trying to steal your big brother's car you faggot, its American.
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>>14198945
Ford should build an LMP1 car and BTFO yurop's pride.
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>>14198956
Ford is the most European of the big 3 by a country mile, I don't think yuropoors would mind if Ford won considering hundreds Focuses get sold there every day.
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>>14198956
Maybe one day Cadillac will get back in.
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>>14198945
>tfw America will be represented by v6
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>>14198966
The shitposting here would never end though.
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>>14198983
I'll take what are displacement restrictions for 200
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>>14198966
>I don't think yuropoors would mind if Ford won considering hundreds Focuses get sold there every day.

Well not exactly, if Ford built an all american LMP1 car with american engine built in the US with american racing team. they couldn't claim it was European in the slightest which would give us bragging rights.

That's just if Ford ever did something like that but i won't hold my breath.

>Ford GT40 MKIV
>Most american of the Ford GT and won with american racing team and drivers.
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>>14199014
>Over 400 pounds heavier than the p4 330/340
>Only ran two races
The MKIV was fucking shit.

>>14198799
The GT is a mockery. It's derivative of the shitty GT40 Mk. III. I hope it fucking explodes.
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>>14199080
>Derivative of MK III
No its derivative of the GT in general you urokek, and that's only in regards to styling cues
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>>14199080
>Over 400 pounds heavier than the p4 330/340
>Only ran two races
>The MKIV was fucking shit.

It still won heh..

>The GT is a mockery.
>I hope it fucking explodes.

My sides are fucking burning lmfao! its like you're Enzo Ferrari back from the dead pissed off at the Ford GT.
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>>14199362
>its like you're Enzo Ferrari back from the dead
I lel'd

Also though,
What engine is in the Corvette C7R, like isnt the GT's v6 because of displacement rules? So what's in the vette, is it still a v8 and just not gonna be at lemons or soemthing?
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>>14199488
Destroked last-gen engine, iirc.
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>>14199362
And it was immediately retired.

Wanna know why? It won by a fluke, as proven by the 1967 24h of Daytona.

I'm a huge fan of the Mk.II myself, but the MkIV was a piece of shit and if you knew anything about the GT40 or anything about 1960s prototypes besides /o/ memes you'd understand why the 330 P4 is better.
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>>14199100
>Hey guys let's make a race car
>But you know instead of actually putting the effort in, let's just give it a turbo v6 for homologation reasons
If you have high hopes for the GT prepare to be disappointed.
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>>14199544
>let's just give it a turbo v6 for homologation reasons
>proven endurance racing engine
>for homologation reasons
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>>14199578
>Implying the engine has been proven at all
It's going to flop.
Also most v6s/i6s are used in the actual prototypes, not GTLM.

Also GTLM is fucking boring and all of the cars are shit. They should've made the racing one a top class prototype in the vein of the old GT40 and throw in some wacky-ass experimental shit.

Instead no, it's just them milking a legendary car with a watered down shit GT car that will place top 10 and then retire the next year and never race ever again because it's a miserable failure of a car.
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>>14199615
As long as it beats its yuro competitors, like when they put Ferrari in their place.
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>>14199666
Ferrari doesn't give a fuck about 24hLM anymore.

Ford will need to get into F1, which they can't.
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>>14199705
>"Ferrari doesn't care about Lemons"
>New 488 GTE unveiled to compete
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>Chevy
>caring about any wins but LeMans
The .R series has always been built with that race in mind. They win on reliability and excellent pit management.
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>>14199524
>the MkIV was a piece of shit

Yea he told me that, others have told me that. I admit to not knowing a lot about 1960s Le-mans prototypes but i don't care about it being shit or even winning for that matter.

My original comment was about Ford making another All-American race car for the highest racing class in Le-mans not so much it being perfect or even a winner.

If America entered Rally (another favorite motor-sport of mine besides Endurance Racing) id be one happy fucker. I don't necessarily care if they win (its great if they do) i just want America to get engaged in more international motor-sports.

The GT-R LMP1 Nismo was a complete failure but Nissan (japan in general) is trying. They've only ever won once with a all-japanese-car (Mazda 787B) and for some that was enough. but Nissan is still trying as well as toyota.

If America could simply get involved more like they give a damn that'd be nice.

>this pic of the 787B with all japanese racers could be us one day...
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>>14199517
Last gen block with DFI heads.
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>>14199826
>highest racing class in Le-mans
LMGT is absolutely not the highest racing class in the WEC at Le Mans. LMP2 is more prestigious and LMP1 is the cream of the crop.

Also the new GT is canadian.
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>>14198966
Chrysler is literally owned by Fiat.
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>>14199488
The Corvettes have to use restrictor plates to make up for being a 5.5 liter motor in a 4.5 liter formula.
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>>14200170
>The GT-R LMP1 Nismo
>(Mazda 787B)
>Le-mans prototypes

I mentioned it several times in my comment.. how did you miss that..?

>Also the new GT is canadian.
I wasn't even talking about the GT at all just the GT40 and LMP cars in general.

Also the new GT isn't really canadian. if anything its European as the designer is Scottish. (i'm not sure which country the engine or transmission belongs to)

The only hand Canada had in it is assembly sadly.The Challenger/charger is also built in Canada but they aren't Canadian cars. Same goes for Crown-Vics Or japanese cars like the Civic built in the US.

Don't know if that's how it goes but that seems to make sense since some people barely considered it American less known Canadian.
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>>14200307
Chrysler still based in America as its own brand, with employees/etc working for Chrysler. Its not like all Chrysler models will be rebadged as Fiats
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>>14200325
Oh aiight tybb I get it now
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>>14200170
Another Canadian tryna take our car again cause they don't actually have a car company that isn't a subset of another countries copanies lel B>)

IE Ford Motor Company of Canada.
>Still Ford
>Still Murrican
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>>14200488
You know being american still does not make it "you're car" kek

you had nothing to do with the car, do you work for ford or something?
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>>14200757

Lel the Canadian is this buttmad that he has to resort to this pitiful argument;
Do you work for ford of Canada then canadaCuck?? B>))))))))))))))

Also
>"Our"
>Didn't say "my/mine"
>I'm American
>"Our"

You just blow in from stupid town?
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>>14200806
>"Our"
>Didn't say "my/mine"
>I'm American
>"Our"
Yes, "our" as in yours and fomocos car :^)
So tell me son what role did you play in the creation of the new GT? Must have been a big one to claim it as your own.
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>>14200806
>>14200806
even when you say "our" referring to all the people in america. nah i dont think so.
the only people that can take credit for that car are the people who buy one, and the people who built it.
thinking that a car is yours just because it is made in the patch of land u live in, is the type of thinking a cave man would have. the ford gt has nothing to do with you or me any more then it has to do with some sand people on the other side of the world.

if anything you are the butthurt one.
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>>14200830
Our = American Identity
The car = American
The cars design and bragging rights belong to = America
I identify as = American

Our =/= Your

Shit Canada is this illiterate?
B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>)

Doesn't matter anyway tho 50 years from now nobody will think of the Ford GT as canadians except you KEK
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>>14200866
American Flag,
I didn't make it, but it is considered OURS
Comeon canada this isnt a hard concept, you guys consider a shitleaf flah to be "yours"
B>)
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>>14200872
so an automatic v6 ford is the identity of your nation? roflmao
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>>14200879
>placing as much faith in an automatic v6 ford as you do your own flag
sorry we dont do that in the civilized world
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>>14200883
>>14200887
Still more than you got, Leaf

Also
>Can't stay on topic so has to misquote
>Toppest Shelf Lad

Canada BTFO
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>>14200896
>>14200872
>>14200896

>comparing a national flag to a car.
kek

.
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>>14200952
kek
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>>14200952
>Canadians don't know what analogies are
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>>14200896
Im not canadian. i just joined in to have a dig at the american trying to claim the creation of a private team of engineers and designers as his own just because he was born in the country where the companies HQ is at.
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Claiming credit for other people's work is as American as getting shot
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>>14200990
I guess all the "post cars from [country]" are bullshit then Ye? God stupid fucking canadas meng
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>>14200990
>>14201039
>>14200896
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>>14201080
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god i hate americans, so fucking ignorant.
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>>14201237
>Ignorant
>Stealing another County's entity as your own because you put it together.
>Canada
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If you're gonna shit on Canada, dont bring up space shit. They may be America's hat, but it's a fine hat indeed.
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>>14201268
he still dont get it.
i give up.
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>>14201304
But who indeed didn't get it here Leafman.
Because both conceptually, and as a part of speech, the point still stands that it is possible to refer to something as belonging to your country even if you didn't take part in it. Nobody disputes that if a Canadian tried to say, "The Eiffel tower belongs to us" and a Parisian said the "Eiffel Tower is ours" - that the Eiffel tower is in fact Paris' belonging even if the anon didn't directly build it.

Once again, just an angry Canadian that he can't claim the GT to be his county's idea.
But gee thanks for puttin' it together for us, Maple.
B>)
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>>14201353
ok.
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>>14198945
My guess is Multimatics did most of the engineering on the GT themselves. That's really their wheelhouse, not Ford's. Ford would be responsible for the engine mostly.
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re: Multimatics, anyone know how many of pic related were ever built? Gorgeous car.
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>>14201547
I wouldn't be surprised if they at least contributed in designing in some way, but from the Road and Track article, "..construction of race and street GTs outsourced to Canadian company Mutimatic." To me that sounds like they game them the task of assembling it. My guess would be it started off in Ford's SVT or Ford Racing division before those all got lumped under "Ford Performance"

>>14201566
I found this bit of info, but that was all i found
"The car, which will be made in extremely low numbers (think double digits)"
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>>14201566

Cor I love that, it's a perfect mix of Retro and Modern.

Also, you can never not love Gullwings.
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>>14200369
>if anything its European as the designer is Scottish.
That makes pic related American

Also the Ferrari 599 and F12 are now American according to you.
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>first GT was british: was succesful
>second GT was american: not succesful
>third GT was canadian: ???
pls win so we can banter about americans not knowing how to make GTs
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>>14201353
TL;DR: America can't into build quality so they just pretend they're good at things
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>>14200872
>B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>) B>)
I could have sworn the Christmas break was over and elementary school was back in.
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>>14204605
>third GT was canadian: ???
>pls win so we can banter about americans not knowing how to make GTs

Are you going to banter about americans not knowing how to assemble GTs? cause at least americans got as far as actually designing the engine and body on the second GT

The first GT they got as far as designing and building the engine and the british built and designed the body.

hence why its sometimes referred to as british-american/american-british
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_GT40
>The Ford GT40 is a high performance American-British endurance racing car, built and designed in England (Mk I, Mk II, and Mk III) and in the United States (Mk IV), and powered by a series of American-built engines

Don't shoot me though i really don't care what nationality the car comes from.
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>>14204605
There were successful Mk VII Ford GTs. They were built by the Germans at Matech.
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>>14204873
>Don't shoot me though
dont worry i am not american
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>>14204630
i dont know, we are pretty good at freedom
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>>14204918
>25 years to import a car
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>>14204924

You can thank Mercedes for that one.

>not the guy you replied to
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>>14204918
>spies on all its citizens
>police force equipped to fight russia

kek
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>>14199615
>implying it hasn't been proven
it's ran in DP cars for two years now. If it can last petit le mans, daytona, and sebring just fine, it can do le mans.
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>>14204936
>it was those pesky non americans
you are just as pathetic as the other guy
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>>14205052
Mercedes of America is American and responsible for fucking everyone over.
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>>14205078
blame that administration for listening to them
then subsequent administrations for keeping that law in place
because those governments are supposed to be there for you the people
MBUSA and every car company that quietly supports it and every other law that limits your freedom to choose what you will drive are to be expected to act in their own interest, why blame them.
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>>14205052
>tries to answer comment
>didn't quite give the answer you were looking for
>you are just as pathetic as the other guy who's overly patriotic

My mistake, would this burning murican flag make up for it?
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>>14205327
stop embarrassing america
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>>14205327
>stop embarrassing america
>on a tread where americans are arguing about a car being american or not.

I think some of the comments may have beat me to it sadly.

see
>>14200488
>>14200806
>>14200872
>>14200990
>>14201237
>>14204630

and finally the classic
>>14204918
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