Asking all Euro's, what is your opinion on the 2016 Camaro?

shit

>>14196012
Are they going forward with that? It doesn't even look like a sports car at all. It just look like "Car". The back is an abortion. Children would have done better.

>>14196012
would rather have the challenger, but better than the moostang.

Looks terrible.

Previous gen wasn't that bad, but this exaggerates every bad aesthetic it had.

pig fat disgusting

>>14196012
Front end is okay, the rear is unforgivably disgusting. The rear side windows are a joke as well. They do however, apparently handle fantastically.

terrible looking
lolnowindows

>>14196012
Chebby should have gone with a retro 2nd gen.
This doesn't look drastically different from the 5th gen

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>>14196165
Any chance they handle better than the 350R?

>>14196012

Front looks OK, but nothing special.. Rear looks like a v6 impala.

>Real human bean

>euro opinion

LOL WHO CARES

>>14196176
No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtdtGgf1BF0

Regardless of how it drives, you'd look like an obnoxious prick driving around in any muscle car in the UK, the type of person who wears leather vest jackets and bandanas unironically.

>>14196195
We are discussing the 2016 camaro, not the previous.

>>14196200
What if the person driving it IS an American?

>>14196200
Doesn't seem so in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H83d9fTsMcY

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hideously american

>>14196213
It is honestly seen differently then. There's an american airbase near me and a lot of the guys there had their cars imported over, a lot of mustangs and challengers, they get a concession.

>>14196217
Of course people are staring, it's loud and obnoxious and you don't see many of them. Guaranteed not a single one of them would buy one over a Cayman S.

American here. It looks like a big tall family sedan. It's not sleek and sporty at all. The Mustang and Challenger are the same way but that's just how pony/muscle cars are supposed to look I suppose. I actually love the look of the Challenger and 2013-2014 Mustang (but not the 2015-2016).

I'd like more options for small sports cars like the Miata and FR-S. I think one of the American big 3 should build a Fiero successor.

>>14196212
Is there a difference I'm not aware of?

>>14196012
I liked the previous gen. they actually sell, or did sell camaros in the UK but I think literally nobody buys them.

>>14196222
Probably not, because they live in Europe and like most people from there country of origin prefer the products that come from wherever. I real like European cars for the sophistication and performance, however, I absolutely hate European designs because they look boring or too feminine.

>>14196225
Supposedly Dodge is going to be coming out with a new smaller muscle car riding on an Alfa Romero platform in the next few years. They're probably going to bring back the Barracuda nameplate for it.

>>14196222
That actually kinda gives me a warm fuzzy. Like muscle cars have a certain kind of mojo that's exclusively American.

>>14196227
You shittin' me son?

Lighter, smaller, more aerodynamic, better chassis, better engine, more power etc. etc.

Literally everything in the car was re-done, not a single piece of the 2016 Camaro is the same as the previous EXCEPT for the badges.

>>14196241
I think you are suffering under the mistaken belief that what's in the video is a 5th gen.

Windows too small, too high, too angry, too fat.

>>14196252
>2016 Ford Mustang Shelby GT350R vs. 2015 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
>2015 Camaro
>2015
We are discussing the 2016 Camaro so comparing the older gen when talking about the new has no validation.

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When I think of a Mustang, I think of American exceptionalism and the American dream.

When I think of a Challenger, I think of harmless jokes and banter about America.

When I think of a Camaro, I think of a redneck product of incest fucking his sister on top of the Confederate flag.

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>>14196232
>because they live in Europe and like most people from there country of origin prefer the products that come from wherever.

nope. japanese cars are popular in europe because they have a reputation for being reliable.
most american cars are seen as cheap garbage, this stigma also exists in america, all the best selling 'luxury' cars are imports.

To me at least it goes
America:big amd comfy or overpowered
Europe:luxury cars or 2l diesel hatchbacks
Japan:cheap and reliable or drift tax

>>14196332
>let's market these vehicles as two distinct models
>except when we release sales figures, then they're the same but not

>>14196266
And all of this just points to a very flawed thought process. Thanks for sharing you obviously broken person.

>>14196012
No opinion, it won't hit the roads here for quite some time because it's too expensive for the people who would want it.

>>14196266
Mustang is the white trash vehicle of choosing.
Camaro is an all around, it isn't really favored in any part of America
Challenger is popular mostly among cities with ghetto's etc. but is still popular in the south.

I live in Kentucky and I can tell you that for every 1 Camaro there are 20 white trash rednecks driving a Mustang. They are a plague here. In my tiny city I see roughly 30 Mustangs a day and I'm only on the road in the city for 10 minutes to and from work.

>>14196012
It looks the same as the 2015.
Cheers

>>14196012
Kinda digging it. Looks bettter than the new Mustang in my opinion, but I kinda dislike Ferds anyways. Now it's just a matter of waiting untill Dodge shows up with the new Challenger, see if that has any better styling(probably will) and if it'll be any lighter than the 6th gen Camaro (probably won't).

Belt line could be a bit lower though, and the LT ones look a bit sharkier (?) than the SS models. Kinda digging the LT ones more - the front end design look a lot cleaner, and removing the spoiler off the rear end of the SS does make the butt-end a bit more attractive. Too bad you can't have a loaded LT, with all the option, and of course a V8.

Main issue I'm having is that Chevy is pulling out of my country (out of Yurop from what I'm hearing). We've got Opel anyways, so I can import a Chevy and have it serviced there (with a bit of luck), but still, not the best situation. Also, they don't offer any cheap cars with pickups beds, which would get huge amount of tax incentives here (because work vehicle), and those would make their purchase price tolerable, and their running costs pretty low. Also, why aren't they moving the SS to the Alpha platform yet? They should. And then they should also offer what is now the SS as a ute. Just call it the El Camino, give it a big honking V8, done. It'll get tax incentives here (meaning it'll sell), and I think they'll do extremely well in the USA, too.

>>14196176
5th gen Z/28 is slower than a GT350R, so the 6th gen might be a bit faster. And then the next Mustang comes out, and that's faster. You know the drill.

All I'm waiting for is for Ford to finally release the GT500 - and for Chevy to stick the LT4 into the Camaro.

>>14196012
The car's amazing. Your ability to form plurals not so much.

Yes, I'm an European, living in Europe.

>>14196012
rear is a bit nasty, rest of the car is ok

I always liked camaros, not so much mustangs which I always felt were more feminine, so I'd totally get one if I had the euro shekeles and my country didn't have displacement taxes up the ass

I wonder how GM will price it here anyway, the ecobooster is a bit more expensive than a brz and GT at 44k, which all things considered isn't THAT bad. hopefully camaro will be similar or cheaper

>>14196012

Gen 4 Camaro was the prettiest one.

>>14196015
/thread

>>14196535
You are fucking retarded

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>Pony car is an American class of automobile [...]
>The term describes an affordable, compact, highly styled car with a sporty or performance-oriented image.
>affordable
>highly styled
>performance-oriented image
Note how nowhere it actually says sporty, it only needs to be cheap and -look- sporty. As expected from Murrika, where style always trumps substance and bigger is better.

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>>14196798
It's not a pony car.

Also the numbers on the vehicle are pretty damn great and the car is all around an amazing performance car. Just do some research before spouting gibberish like an idiot.

Never really liked either the new Camaro or Challenger.
5th Gen Mustang looks masculine. Charger looks masculine.
Camaro and Challenger, not so much.

>>14196012
Ugly.
Retarded badge placement.
Taxed to shit.
Poor value.
People would rather buy M3s.

>>14198279
>The Chevrolet Camaro is an automobile manufactured by Chevrolet, classified as a pony car[1][2] and some versions also as a muscle car.[3][4]
Also nobody cares about muh hp apart from burgers because it's the only thing that even attempts to redeem their shitbarges. Enjoy your traffic light pulls, you homo, because that's all your bucket will ever be able to do.

>>14196012
you didnt have to call out the euros
you could of just made a thread "what do you think of the 2016 camaro" and all the shitposters are from yurop

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>>14198279
this fucking autist right here lmao

Like all things american, too big, tasteless, gaudy, obnoxious and flashy without any substance underneath.

>>14196012
it looks like garbage

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>>14198304
>"I just proved his point"
> classified as a pony car[1][2] and """""some versions also as a muscle car."""""[3][4]

>>14198352
I say the same thing with European cars. They all look boring, feminine and most of the time either have outrageously hideous interiors or brilliant interiors. Enjoy your cobblestone roads that are 3 inches wide.

>>14196332
>BMW 3 and 5 series
>MB C and E class

are they really considered luxury over the pond? i mean pretty much everyone here just considers them as... normal cars?

>>14196193
/thread

>>14196012
>yuropoor opinion
>relevant in any way, shape or form

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>>14198630
they would be 'premium' according to the ACRISS classifications used by rental firms

>>14198707
>Luxury
>Chrysler 300
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>14198716
>implying anything better than a 1.2l diesel hatchback isn't classed as "luxury" in europe

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>>14198707
huh. i mean at least where i am from if someone says luxury it most likely means 7/S/A8

>>14198732
you are from the country claiming a regular 3 series is luxury

>>14196012
It looks like a pigfat 2 door version of a pigfat sedan.
The proportions are so fucked up.

>>14196012
I thought muscle cars were for highschool badass/ bad guys? what kinda faggot would drive such a contraption wtf?

>>14196012
RUINED

>>14196263
It's the same gen.
"Gen" isn't the same as model year.

>>14198814
cardudebros?

Flat top wearing, protien bar eating mother skulling cardudebros who play xbox one and always grunts menacingly at the gym

Cardudebros

>>14196012
Id get one if I could afford it. Camaros are GOAT.

What the fuck euroshit kind of car can you buy new under 45k usd that runs 11 second 1/4 mile on factory settings?

Top kek euros, this car would be 80k for you. Enjoy your shit boxes and small roads while I'm doing burnouts all over the place.

Fucking faggots.

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>>14198846
totally not. I said badasses, not faggots.

leather jackets over white t-shirts, jeans, pompadours, attitude.

Why would you own a muscle car in the 21st century? They handle like a boat, go like a pushbike

>>14198875
>dis uninformed nigga

>>14198884
Prove me wrong :)

>>14198875
Except they're faster than whatever you drive. Hell, you gotta spend like 200k to get something faster.

>>14198886
>2016 camaro

>>14198887
I run 10s quarters, £14K all in

Find me a 20k burgerbucks car that can do 10s

>Protip: pre-emptive :^)

>>14198891
>Having a curb weight over 2500 burgerpounds

lol

>>14198887
>>14198891

The burgerexperts have had 15 minutes to reply, so I'd say we can confirm this

BTFO
T
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>>14198916
>>14198968
These posts make me ashamed to be european.

Go find a new Audi under that weight.

>>14198975
Audi make very nice cars, but why would you buy an Audi for performance, unless you were a millionaire?

Jesus this board is full of fucking babies and retards tonight

>>14198859
No i meant cardudebros would be the only sort of sheeple car buying faggots to like this
>Durr its soo agressive nobody will see my microbenis
>DO U EVEN FUCKEN LIFT?

>>14198995
>RS4/RS6/R8 are millionaire's cars now
Are you even trying?

>>14198995
>Audi make very nice cars
You wouldn't recognize a nice car if it drove straight right across your face.

>>14198843
>5th-gen '10-'15
>6th-gen '16-
are you some kind of moron?

>>14199026
You misread my point senpai :^)
>>14199077
Forgive me for forgetting that shit cars have Alcantara headlining, massage seats, walnut dashboards, automatic gate openers, fridges etc.

>>14199218
And everything else a car doesnt need, yes.

If I wanted to drive a Rolls, I'd buy a Rolls.

>>14199236
What's your point?

>>14199121
Hmm, I guess you're right. It just looks a lot like the new Camaro.

>>14199245
That you're an idiot for liking pigfat eurocars.

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>>14199001
oh I see now
>dad's financing this for me
>new cars are objectively and quantifiably better!

idk I think they should be much simpler and meaner, not just the camaro. the last iterations of mustangs and challengers all look like shit to me

In my experience American cars, especially old ones have a pretty big following in Europe with some muscle car meets even bigger than in the U.S

The only people who say otherwise are butthurt BMW fanchildren.

>>14199271
wow great argument fagtron you sure convinced me with those hot opinions

>>14198968
>people must reply immediately

>>14200104
It took camaroboy 63 seconds to type out his butthurt response before. Why should it take so long now?

I'm sorry you feel moving the goal posts is the only way you can help your fellow shitposters

>>14199267
The styling is pretty "evolutionary", but looking at them side by side, the difference is at least as clear as the difference between the various recent generations of Audi or Porsche.

>>14200171
This post is a spitting cliche example of

>"pssh, nothing personnel kid."

i think the new camaro is ugly
i would rather pick the stang or challenger.
would rather have a ecoboost stang or v6 challenger than that fuckin camaro interior.

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>>14200419
>not liking that sexy ass interior

>>14198630
>>14198748
The Mercedes and BMWs in the US have different trim and interiors then in Europe. It's why Mercedes singlehandedly lobbied the US to create the 20 year import rules, as people would by a regular E-class from a European exporter for cheap, which lowered their brand power and potential profit. On my last trip to Europe I was surprised on how spartan the interior of the E-class that picked me up from the airport.

>>14200657
its those fuckin windows man, they are just shit

>>14200817
why

shit car

>>14200787
that is defenately new to me. so US MBs come with all extras from start?

I'd rather a Challenger to be honest with you family man.
Also, way too overpriced over here, like every murikan car is.

>>14199267

the new SS beat the gt350
the old z/28 beats the gt350
the gt350R beats the new ss and old z/28 by barely seconds.

The new Z/28 is going to stomp it.

looks like a bunker

might be popular in albania

>>14196012

Really, really ugly. Camaros were never good looking, but that is just hideous.

>>14204997
Maybe. The gt350r hasn't been out that long so they probably didn't use it as a benchmark while they were in development.

It's terrible USA quality + plastic bomber garbage.

>giving a shit about a bunch of backwards ass europoors opinions

Top fucking kek, who cares? Also they can't give a valid opinion because none of them have never stepped inside an American car.

>>14205766
you say it like its a bad thing, why would anyone want to sit in a GM product?
http://fortune.com/2015/08/24/feinberg-gm-faulty-ignition-switch/

>>14205776
>says the yuropoor driving a 1l diesel shitbox

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>>14204978
no. but you can't buy a 130hp stripper merc in the US

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>>14205776
>he drives a Peugeot

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>>14205794
lol he got butthurt GM is fucking garbage

>>14205826
>yuropoor
>calling anything garbage
top kek

>>14200787
Mercedes did that to destroy competition against the foreign manufacturers who didnt meet US standards.

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>>14205823
>>14205834
so much analhurt lol

>4,343 claims filed with the GM Ignition Compensation Claims Resolution Facility.

kek amerifats will defend this

>>14196213
Then it's even worse

>>14198857
>being this mad over an automobile
top kek, I think I know why people in the usa die so early, you are always so fucking angry

>>14205871
>4K women have(had) too much shit on their key ring
>the world is better without them
What's the problem?

>>14198857
drag racing goes on >>>/lgbt/

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>>14206155
>amerifats actually defended that

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How do you even see out of a Camaro? It looks like one giant blind spot