Outside of Snek, is Dodge any good? I'm thinking about

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>>14193442
>fiat

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>>14193442
>scat pack
kek

its the only modern muscle car that looks like a muscle car
>>14193452
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>>14193469
>implying Fiat had anything to do with the Hemi™ or the LX platform

>>14193470
>pigfat cant turn
>good

>>14193478
dont worry he's just upset he got a dodge shart
>>14193490
>implying classic 60-80's muscle cars are any better
Whoever buys a stock new muscle car for handling is an idiot of the highest displacement

>>14193490
He never mentioned turning. He mentioned having a comfy car and being able to go phast. I love the shit out of Subaru, but of all things I would describe it as, comfortable is not one of them. It's alright, but it's nothing special. And yes, I have driven a 2015 WRX. Not an STi, but I assume that would be even more uncomfortable.

>>14193507
This.

Goddamn i hate bench racer JDM fuckheads.

and ive owned JDM cars from 80-90's i know what their like
>slow
>underpowered
>unconformable
>shit stock
>limited overpriced aftermarket

>>14193442
Yes Dodge is and the Scat Pack is a mini hellcat

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>>14193507
>>14193500
>objective bad point
>"d-doesnt count"

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2014 Dodge charger RT awd. Great car on the highway. Quiet and comfortable. Would buy another one in a heartbeat

>>14193527
He said he wanted a comfy cruiser that he can occasionally hoon down some backroads

The Subie will hoon down some backroads, but will not cruise comfortably.

SRT anything will pleasantly surprise you. Go ahead and check it and see.

>>14193555
>awd
Why?
>>14193560
This
>>14193527
Your a faggot

Awd why .live in michigan

>>14193527
you're right, it doesn't count. well done.
you just achieved the level of logic expected of a 5 year old.
so that's progress

>>14193589
rekt

>>14193560
>backroads

enjoy understeering off a clif

>>14193589
>no u

flawless 3 year old logic

>>14193636
It doesn't matter how legitimate the "bad point" is if that's not what OP cares about. It's like saying McDonalds isn't healthy. Everyone already knows and no one asked.

>>14193665
are you comparing the new challenger to mcdonalds?

because you are right, they are equally bath

>>14193679
no one gives a shit what you think though

tell me how does that feel?

>>14193679
They're kinda similar, quintessentially American, not especially sophisticated, highly enjoyable.

Europoors wouldn't understand.

>>14193694
the challenger not being able to turn is not a feel, its a fact

>>14193701
>mcdonalds
>enjoyable

>>14193452
>480 hp RWD coupe
>"no anon get a 305hp awd sedan instead"

>>14193745
You can lie to yourself but you can't lie to me.

>>14193782
>unironically beliving mcdonalds is enjoyable

>>14193452
faggot car with faggot unreliable engine
also pigfat in recent models

>>14193788
Most people like the taste of junk food, that's how it's designed. Pretending to not like it doesn't make you look sophisticated it makes you look like an edgy teenager.

Like your still in that phase where you pretend to not like some movies because "they're for kids".

When the subject of Muscle cars comes up all people care about is how fast it can go around a corner.

When i mention Caddy being faster than (insert other luxury brand here) people try to bring up everything but cornering.

>>14193942
cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.

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>>14193850
there is a difference between junk food and fast food


I like fast food, not junk food

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>>14193745
>the challenger not being able to turn is not a feel, its a fact

>this was him trying to be clever

>>14193955
Shouldn't you be swabbing a deck boss?

>>14193850
I don't like junk food, makes me feel slow/tired

>>14193966
>a base serie 3 with 3 times less the power is faster around a track
>not a fact that it cant turn

>>14193981
I'll ask you again. How does it feel knowing no one gives a shit what you think?

>>14193960
It's all processed, good tasting, garbage. You can categorize it if you want.

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>>14193981

>>14193997
>implying people caring or not about me somehow makes the challenger able to turn
nice mental gimnastics

>>14193998
>not making a good hamburger with organic and non-processed ingredients
plebeian as fuck

>>14194011
google it

>>14193981
The challenger isn't a track car. No one said it was. No one wants to know how well it corners. The only one talking about it is you.
Do you realize how autistic you're acting? Serious question.

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>>14194024
oh fuck it's mentally ill anon again

>>14194038
no one is calling it a track car, but when its slower than a bse model 3 series there are some issues needed to be fixed

>>14194024
Hey, I love Shake Shack as much as the next guy but I'm not going to come on the internet and pretend I don't enjoy the taste of Sausage-egg McMuffin.

>>14193490

>Implying that thirsty-ass Boxer engine.. rod breaking, AWD having, lookin' ass Nigga can turn.

https://youtu.be/S5NWcdq4Wf4

>>14194055
>unironically liking mcdonalds junk

>>14194047
>ill call him mentally ill, that will make the challenger turn
hmm

>>14194050
no one cares about it's laptimes. if the base 3 series is that fast that's nice for bmw, i doubt any base 3 series owners give a shit either.

so why do you care about the laptimes of anything other than the bus you ride?

>>14194038
>this new fag dodge cocksucking trip getting mad because someone said the challenger cant turn
roflmao kid fuck off back to another site if you cant handle it

>>14194058
>impreza
>24H nurburgring class victory
>several rally production catefories victories

>somehow cant turn

you didint even post an impreza

the challenger hasn't

>>14194038
>No one wants to know how well it corners
>"Back road hooning" specifically stated in OP
oh wait in america all the back roads are dead straight, nvm

>>14194059
>STILL thinking anyone gives a fuck about whether challengers can turn
lmfao what is wrong with your brain? i bet you failed so hard at school.

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>>14194062
no one is arguing about laptimes, that was something I mentioned to back up my statement about the new challenger

the challenger is pigfat cant turn, this is a fact

>>14194073
hasn't won any production categories*

>>14194071
He's an Otaku stationed in Japan, he's an annoying faggot from /int/

>>14194090
>no one cares about it!

this still does not make it able to turn, also, what this guy said >>14194084, OP mentioned back roads driving, which usually involve turns

>>14194093
no one gives a shit what you think and never will. this is also a fact.
how does it feel to know this?

>>14194107
>hey op let me tell you about your own back roads
just shut up

>>14194111
thats ok, i dont really think about it

but the challenger still cant turn senpai

>>14194116
are you OP?

challenger cant turn? ROFLMAO, it cant even drive straight!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BzlW3a6XYc

>>14194118
you should think about it, you can start now

>>14194124
are you OP's mum? why are you telling him what he should like?

>>14194118

It doesn't have to. Nobody with any idea what a Challenger is gets one for its handling. That's not what it does. If you want to corner all day get what does that best. If you want to drive around in the mud get that car. If you want to go fast then get a car that goes fast.

Repeating that "can't turn" shit is like complaining about how the frosting on you steak isn't sweet enough.

>OP asks if dodge outside of the viper is any good
>anons give their opinions
>"NAAH THAT DOESNT COUNT STOP SAYING THAT! A SPORTS CAR NOT BEING ABLE TO TURN ISNT A VALID CRITICISM!!!"
kek

>>14194155
Put your trip back on you autist

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>>14194140
why should I care if other people think about me?

>>14194155
OP wants a backroads car, therefore he wants a car that can turn, the challenger cant

>>14194118
even if it turned like a caterham it wouldn't matter.
all it needs to do is look, sound and burn rubber like a challenger.
if they wanted to improve it reliability would be the place to start, not appealing to weeboo thickos like you by making it """"turn""""

>>14194167

"autist" "cuck" "meme" "trip"

same shit every day. Learn to speak faggot.

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>>14194182
>mustang and camaro turn better and are doing much better in sales because they can turn
>"appealing to a bigger customer base does not matter"

explain that

>>14194188
>autism

It's OK the Navy has you painting boats, they have to give the mentally handicapped a job too Strawboss

>>14194181
>why should I care if other people think about me?
learn some english you foreign cunt

>>14194164
>A SPORTS CAR

But they're muscle cars..?

>>14194196
im pretty sure that sentence was correct

please ifx it if you want to grammar nazi at least

>>14194194
>implying ford and chebby haven't outsold chrysler since forever
>implying it has anything to do with handling
>implying anyone has ever said "i like handling, i should really get a mustang"
god damn.... you are one dumb fuck

>>14194209
thought about it, then decided you're not worth the effort :^)

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>>14194211
>we dont sell many cars
>I have an idea, instead of appealing to a bigger customer base to boost sales up, lets make mustang and camaro competitor but worse

and you are calling me dumb

>>14194228
>is too autistic to read correctly
>hurr durr that sentence was wrong
>"prove it"
>cant

hmm

>>14194238
>>14194231
M E N T A L I L L N E S S

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>>14194251
>not even trying at this point

>>14194164

Challenger isn't a sports car. It's a muscle car.

>>14194260
see
>>14194228

>>14194315
im not that anon dumbass

>>14194211
>cross shopping the big 3 murrkan muscle
>mhmm, i cant see out the camaro, no thanks
>mhmm, the challenger is good
>mhmm, the mustang is also good but it handles much better than the challenger, ill go mustang
HUUR FUCKING DUUR

now try say handling doesnt matter. why would you buy a piece of shit cant turn muscle car when you can buy a piece of shit can turn muscle car?

>>14194361
maybe you should go stand outside a dodge dealership and tell challenger customers the mustang exists?

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Co-worker owns one, and he loves talking about it. He drags it and has drag tires for when it takes it to the track.

Its a great DD because the good mileage it gets. So yeah OP, if you want a solid muskle car get it.

>DAT honeybee v8
>dat 4 cylinder mode for city driving

>>14194380
dodge challenger customers are stupid, but they surely know the mustang exist, they cant be that dumb

>>14194395
>not getting the manual so 8 cylinders are on all the time.

>>14194402
according to your argument they must not know, therefore you should tell them. i can't be fucked

>>14194361
Mustangs and camaros aren't muscle cars.

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Buy it. Don't be a cuck

i'm a security guard. my company's patrol fleet is made up of various dodges.

like avengers and whatever. i dunno even know models or years. i guess they're all between 2005-2012.

all i know is they're all completely awful. every one is riddled with mechanical issues. everything is falling apart.

and they're so uncomfortable too.

>>14194195
wrong guy, m8

How do you drive RWD in the snow?

>>14194539
Sandbags in back
Winter tyres
Easy on acceleration
Very easy I've been doin it for 20 years

>>14194562
alright you fucker im buying a challenger and if i cant handle this utah weather im gonna hunt you down

>>14194633
Are Mormons allowed to have fun cars?

>>14193442
Go for it.

>>14194858
ill tip my fedora to that man

>>14193442
it's great and real fun to drive

only real issues with it are
>mopar electrical work
>driving in the snow

If you're going to get one and you live somewhere where there is a winter, be sure to budget in snowtires or you're going to have trouble getting out of your driveway with 3 inches of snow on the ground

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>>14194058
When you said boxer I just assumed sti. MFW they pulled this up is a picture of the car. I was also wondering how a car would randomly flip at that speed/angle turns out it was a shitter in an suv for no real reason.

>>14195270
>and you live somewhere where there is a winter, be sure to budget in snowtires or you're going to have trouble getting out of your driveway with 3 inches of snow on the ground
>if you live somewhere where there is a winter, be sure to budget in snowtires or you're going to have trouble getting out of your driveway with 3 inches of snow on the ground
Fixed.

>>14195340
>I applied the brakes softly in an effort to keep the back end from sliding out, but, combined with a bump and rough switch in surface texture from concrete to asphalt, I lost traction. I began sliding to the left, the car oversteering, rotating counter-clockwise, over the center marker. I counter-steered, turning the steering wheel all the way to the right, but kept sliding to the left into the turnout. It was at this moment I knew, I had fucked up.

Naw nigger, you fucked up and didn't straight line brake when you exited the tunnel and realized you messed up. You also were at a speed where you couldn't slowdown if there were hazards outside of the tunnel.
Also why the fuck are you speeding in an suv?

>>14195034
Why?
>In 2010 Utah was 62.1% Mormon (members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints). Salt Lake County, was 51.4% LDS. The county with the lowest percentage of LDS was Grand County at 26.5%. The county with the highest percentage of LDS was Morgan County at 86.1% [16]
Utah is literally mostly Mormon and they don't let you drink caffeine or alcohol, most Americans would consider that odd, as such would label them as anti "fun"

>>14193442
Grand caravans are badass

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>>14193793
>Boxer
>Unreliable

>>14196247

Whoa what the fuck? is that real?

>>14196245
Headgaskets

>>14194105

he was here first, newfriend, then he joined the navy and deployed

>>14193442

Disregard faggot bench racers. I've owned and daily driven my R/T Challenger for three years. It is the comfiest cruiser in the world, I swear to god. You will not find a better highway car on Earth for the price. The Hemi is a great engine and doesn't have problems. The only advice I can give you is to avoid the new automatic until they sort out its issues. The old five speed is good, it's what I have (since my left knee is fucked and I can't kick the clutch), and I've never had an issue.

Test drive one. It will sell itself to you.

>>14196245
What are eating head gaskets? What is rod knock the earlier ones suffered, what is a complete shit transmission

>>14197625
>defending strawboss

KEK
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>>14193442
My only issue with the Hellcat is they give it a fucking Cuda AAR hood. They should have just made it look like a modern T/A challenger or make the rest of it look like a Cuda.

My friend is on his 5th transmission in his

>>14193442

Made in India.

>>14198250

Your friend probably drives like a tard.

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>>14193636
>>14193527
>>14193490

Their trucks are shit

>>14198250
my friend drove to the moon and back with his.
all original except brake pads and oil changes

>>14200353
So 500k miles?

>>14200314
Straight up awful driving.

>>14194024
>organic
Meme shit retardation. Organic is not healthier and is undetectable by taste in blind studies.

Buying "Organic" just mean buying animals that suffered though disease instead of getting proper care, because you can't give medicine to organic livestock.

>>14194194
Ford and Chevy outselling Dodge has to do with Dodge's inferior dealer network, shittier quality, and worse economy, way more than it has to do with benchracing (though it can't be denied that benchracing is a factor for many musclecar owners).

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>>14193442
i had a srt8 befor it got wrecked, it was my first car.
most fun in a car i ever had, sure it was heavy and did not corner as well as other cars in its price range, but god damn when u floor it going around a corner feeling the fat ass slide out on you.
so much fun.
plus i just loved the way it looked, tell this day when i see a random challenger it brings a smile to my face.

mechanically nothing ever went wrong with it, i had it for 2 and a half years and i was pretty hard on it.

>>14200374
IN ZERO GRAVITY

>>14200333
I've owned several of their trucks. started in the 80's. had a ramcharger, w250 pickup, Dakota, a couple caravans. I currently own a 09 ram R/T and a 13 ram 1500. Not a single problem with any Dodge trucks I've ever owned. the older ones made it into the 200-300K mile range easy. sold the Dakota at 100K for a chevy, that was a mistake. My R/T has 76K. and my 13 has 36k

>>14197369
What do you mean?

>>14194361
The challenger is a full size coupe, you can fit an adult in the back seat comfortably. Not even a manlet can fit in the back of a Mustang or camaro comfortably

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>>14197369
Yes, the cars were actually talking to each other.

>>14194334
how does that matter?

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Go for it op, but get a 15-16 for the redesigned interior. Pre-15 models had straight up truck interiors

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>>14200452
>Implying mustangs don't have the best back seats

>>14200541

And you might as well take them out because no one is going to be fitting in the back seats except for really small children

>>14200541
>0 leg room
I mean if you are an amputee then I'm sure they are great

>>14200494
this
http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/dodge/challenger/2014/photos-360-interior/sd-AAbLz5B
vs
http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/dodge/challenger/2016/photos-360-interior/sd-AAeuLLc

>>14200541
implying u have to have no legs to fit back their.

>>14200550
>implying the camaro's any better

>>14200555
>>14200569
>being fat

>giving a shit about 2+2 insurance job seating
so what

>>14200576
You are retarded.

>>14200576
>having legs means you're fat
Unless the driver and front passenger are both 5'5 manlets you aren't fitting anyone in the back seat

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>>14200576
>Being short

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>>14200576

>mustang shills

no one is saying the Camaro's is better mongoloid

>>14200589
I'm not retarded, I'm resmarted.

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>>14193490
Guess this is terrible as well

>>14201043
i know, these faggots need to git gud amirite anon

>2012+4
>not dd'ing a top fuel dragster

i shiggy my diggy, lil niggy

>>14200541
>>14200555
>>14200569
Everyone always talks about the leg room, but what about the lack of head room in the back? I sat in the back of a 2015 mustang with my fucking head tilted sideways for an hour and a half and when we hit bumps I hit my head on the rear windshield.

>>14201066
Nah it's terrible because it's pigfat and lolcantturn

Buy a mustang