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off road thread.


Posts your Jeeps, trucks, stock or lifted, 2x4 or 4x4s
>dumping pics of my jeep from yesterday
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>>14173312
Will lift in a week or so.
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>tfw Jeep is down for maintenance
>tfw waiting on parts in the mail
It says it shipped but no tracking updates
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>>14173341
Fuck wtf, i posted it why didn't it go through?
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>>14173312

Have some more pictures but need to resize after I shower
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Mine is the dark blue one. It's stock. My buddy's is 1.6 swapped.
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>>14173386
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>>14173386
Nice Samurais bruh
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>>14173342
My car has been waiting on parts for 2 months. Shit sucks.
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>>14173492
I tried fixing mine with some parts store o-rings that looked to be properly sized, but that made it worse, so I bought the genuine Mopar O-rings for too much money.
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the extent of my "off-roading" is usually just making my way to remote campsites because lol 157" wheelbase but it's still fun.
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Sup guys pretty new to the offreading scene. I drive a 99 wrangler sport I6 4.0L

All the money I've put in has been repairs not a single upgrade. I plan to bedliner my fender flares and side steps, install an aussie locker in the front, lift 3 inches since my shocks and springs are completely worn anyways and put on 31 inch tires. I like mostly just driving trails and dirt roads. Absolutely terrified of rocks and mud is kinda meh.
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>>14175688
Keep us posted. I did the lift on my JK last May.
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>>14175697
How long did it take you? What I'm looking at is just shocks and springs, plus adjustable track bar and a transfer case drop. I'm afraid of stuck bolts needing to be drilled out an whatnot though
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>>14173312
Just got my truck. Planning on throwing an LED bar behind the grill, skid plate, and a bull bar soon. Before that I'm getting some all terrains since the tires I have now are pretty meh.
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>>14173312
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I cant wait to get a project 4x4.
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>>14175922
I'd love one too, but it's too social. I just want to be alone with my wife and/or dogs and not deal with strangers.

Used to have a glorious lightly modded xj on a 4" and people are just too friendly.
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>>14175943
Then don't buy a Jeep. Jeep is the social 4x4.
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>>14175718
Being that I know nothing about cars, it took me all day with the help of another guy
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Not really sure what I want to do with my YJ.
I think I'm just going to do SOA with d44s.

I barely drive it anymore, can't really sell it, lost interest in offroad a bit since none of my friends are into it so reluctant to drop money in it.

My dad wants to SBC swap it, but if we're doing that why not just go all out with 1 tons and 4 link t b h

pretty much the crux of motorsports. wheres my lotto win.
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>>14175955
That aftermarket though.
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>>14175943

I want a k10 chevy. Or a k30.

I would love to find a 4x4 medium duty truck (like the c50s) but good luck if I ever need to pull the motor out
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>>14173553
i'll be doing that once I lift, and get a flat deck put on this, wanna get a quad and an aluminium boat as well one of these days
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m8icKZSizU
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i'm gettin one of these soon

jdm tite

haven't decided all what i'm gonna do to it yet
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My dad's a big jeep guy and picked up this '85 nissan 720 for $1k as a project for us after I showed interest in his neighbor's toyota. Previous owner rebuilt the top and bottom and totally gutted the thing. We have it running with a weber conversion and mostly back together now except for tail lights, seatbelts and other lesser important things.

Planning on doing a solid axle swap and bobbing the back 13" or so, already have a toyota front axle waiting to get swapped in.

It's sitting on 33s right now and it does ok offroad for IFS, probably gonna go 34s or 35s when we're done with it.

>>14173386
neat
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This company makes nice bumpers, too bad they're so expensive.

http://www.jcroffroad.com/SFNT.html
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>>14177330
Fun trucks, my old one took a beating. Bought an 83 toyota and will never look back, parts are 100x easier to find around me
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDaS2EnzWsE
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>>14177367
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Off road people, say I buy something maybe like third gen 4runner. Then I buy bigger tires and fit them to fitting steelies and repair any issues with my suspension, outside of rock climbing or specialty stuff, it can handle most terrains?

I dont know anything about off road, i have lived little sedan life
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>>14177385
Sure. Get one with a rear locking differential.
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>>14177367
i love these.. rented one in cuba, had a blast
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>>14177388
>rear locking differential.
thanks
anything else?
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Stock '89 Comanche
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjtUFhpd9Nc
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>>14177357
Yeah I kind of wish he had scored a toyota instead just for the aftermarket. It's all good though, gonna have to fab pretty much everything for this build, SAS shit, front and rear bumpers, cage etc.. My dad did welding for a living so it'll be a good exercise to learn on.

Digging that flatbed btw, might do that instead of bobbing the bed.
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>>14177398
That's it. Also 4Runners are pretty limited on tire size, even with a lift which I'm not a huge fan of. See what you can do with the largest tire you can fit with full suspension travel at the stock suspension height and see if you need more.
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>>14177403
That flat bed was horrible, the logs were there to help keep the ass end on the ground as much as possible. My yota has a nice fullsize aluminum flatbed, so much better riding
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>>14175688
>3" lift
>31" tires
Don't do that. You'll regret it. A simple budget boost with shocks is all you need to run 31's. On a TJ you can run 33s with no rub on 3.5" of lift. I personally know a couple guys running 33s on a zone 3" lift.
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>>14176708
are you me

I've been wanting to flatbed this, ive already swapped a 1980 front clip onto it.

Specs on yours? mines 5.0/5 speed
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Do any of you guys use your offroader as a DD? If so where do you live and what is your commute like? Once I get commisioned I'm planning on getting into offroading/overlanding but I don't think I'll be able to afford 2 seperate vehicles on O-1 pay. Seems like a lot of the guys on forums other than this have 2 vehicles though.
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>>14178072
I daily my toyota. it get's 20+ mpgs and drives in a straight line, but it would be nicer with AC and more storage room. Not gonna lie, it'd be nice to have another truck so I wouldn't be as worried when I take it out to the woods on the weekends
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>>14178072
My JK is my DD. Live in downtown LA. I have to drive far to go have fun in anyplace lol. But when I don't feel like having to spend $50 go fill up my gas tank, and I'm not going wheeling, I'll just use my wife's 08 civic if me and her are going out
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>>14178129
>it'd be nice to have another truck so I wouldn't be as worried when I take it out to the woods on the weekends
This is one of my main worries, I don't want to fuck my vehicle up and then not be able to make it to work on monday.
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>>14178148


Just drive carefully and to the best of your ability. Safety is important. It's best to bring others with you too if for at least to get you out if you're stuck
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>>14173312
Cleghorn?
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>>14178072
Yes, I drive my LX470 every day. You could also have a cheap shitbox if you buy some POS like a Jeep that can't handle the abuse.
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>>14178129
>>14178139
>>14178175
>>14178198
Thanks. I'll look into buying one decent 4x4 instead of 2 shitboxes.
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>>14178197
That's right. Went with a couple of other people who wanted to off road.


My first time out there, it was very fun.
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My new 4wd project, 1990 Toyota 4Runner. It'll be getting the drivetrain from my suburban after summer is over. 350 TBI, 700r4, 241c, Dana 60 and 14 BFF with 41.5" PitBull rockers. Also gonna 3 link the front with ORI air struts and leafs in the rear. Can't wait to chop it all up and make it into a super crawler. Later down the line it'll get a 4 speed Atlas transfer case, also a 5.3 LS motor.
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How about AWD?
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>>14178319
I hear AWD is fun in the desert
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>>14173312
xterra > jeep
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>>14178464
Definitely not that Jeep. Maybe an XJ.
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>>14178505
xterra > typical bro doush jeep
nicely modded well cared for older jeep > xterra
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>>14178562
any jeep > xterra

especially your shitter stock one. please go.
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>>14178464
>>14178562
Hah, fuck no.

Your IFS xterra would get BTFO by practically any solid axle jeep retard.
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>>14178576
>hurr durr IFS
Stop. His Xterra is trash, but that's not why.
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>>14178567
>>14178576

its a bad picture but that's a 3 inch lift limited slip dif 4wd super charged xterra

>b..but there's not fog lights its ssstock
some of us can actually turn a wrench on /o/

enjoy your shitty dodge transmissions
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>>14178611
Oh wow an LSD! Amazing. The supercharged VG33 is still a fucking dog.
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>>14178610
can someone please explain how a first gen xterra is trash? or is there some Japanese cars can't off road meme
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>>14178072
>>14178129
>>14178139
>>14178148
>>14178175
>>14178198
>>14178235
What do you guys use for tires? Do you switch them if you go offroading or do you just use mud tires for everything?
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>>14178618
there's a reason its called rock crawling you never need to go fast when off roading
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>>14178623
It's a slow, unreliable dog of a vehicle with no lockers available.
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>>14178611
whoa a 3 inch lift and an lsd watch out guys
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>>14178637
I use Goodyear Duratracs and Cooper Discoverer STs. Depends on which is cheaper when I buy them. They work great off road and aren't obnoxious on road. You'll hear the Duratracs during hard cornering, but they are otherwise pretty silent.
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>>14178645
first gens are reliable as fuck senpai the manual trannyz never die and it litterly has the same motor as the 300zx also I have no idea what a locker is I'm just shit posting my xterra everywere :3
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>>14178610
>IFS faggot detected
It's only good for the highway, solid axle shits all over IFS and I have an IFS truck.

>>14178611
>3 inch lift limited slip dif 4wd super charged xterra
Is that supposed to be impressive?

A TJ with the same lift and tires would destroy your shit.
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>>14178623
IFS is dogshit don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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>>14178670
>>14178662
idk what ifs even is see>>14178657
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>>14178674
Independent front suspension, also far less durable than solid axles.
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Anyone here have any expensive vehicles they offroad with? I couldn't imagine taking a $70000+ gwagen or range rover out overlanding. I'd be way too worried about damaging something.
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>>14178637
Really depends on what you're going to go through. 31 inch all terrains will get you anywhere you need to go in the woods by me, but there's some places you need at least a 35. Tire pressure matters a lot too, I'll bring a compressor and air down when I'm playing in the sugar sand
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>>14178662
No, it doesn't. You're just an idiot.
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>>14178734
I bought my LX470 new. I didn't go off road with it for a couple of years because I was living in the city and was too busy. Then I moved and now it gets used off road just about every day. I'm not worried about damage, but I've never had any real damage to it. I'm careful about how I drive.
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>>14178670
>>14178662
Having owned both solid axle and ifs trucks, they can take a hell of a lot more beating. If it's a weekend warrior that I drive everyday and take out twice a month, I'd rather have IFS for the ride quality
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>>14178670
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>>14178756
Weak shit is weak shit, there's nothing that makes independent suspension inherently weaker.
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>>14178739
Yes, it does. IFS has shit flex, they basically have two tiny axles, one for each wheel and that's what limits the amount of flex. They're also weak as fuck.

Ever wonder why people who are serious about offroading never use IFS? Go look at pure offroad builds and 99%+ use solid axles. Shit, guys go through the expense and trouble of cutting IFS crap out just so they can weld in link or leaf shackles for solid axles.

It's fucking trash for offroad.
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>>14178801
>MUH FLEX
Overrated bullshit desu senpai. Same niggas caring that much about not having 2 feet of suspension travel still have open diffs.
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>>14178773
That photo impresses you?

Look at how horribly humvees flex, you could literally flip this truck over by hand. Now take a cold hard look at that SAS tacoma.

>>14178785
Is that what you really believe?

>>14178820
Articulation is an important aspect of offroading, anon. No matter how retarded you act your IFS truck will always get shit on by solid axle trucks.
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>>14178858
>Articulation is an important aspect
No, it isn't.
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>>14178820
Look at this faggot, Flex is everything when you're offroad. It keeps you much more stable while crawling over uneven terrain. Also since you can keep all 4 tires on the ground you have more traction for moving forward. Lockers help no matter the suspension design, but flex and lockers is the way to go.
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>>14178861
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>>14178869
It adds some perceived stability, but traction gets reduced due to removing weight from the tires. Most solid axle setups have about the same flexibility as their independent counter parts, anyway. Of course you're going to argue about some super modified thing, though.
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>>14178861
How is articulation not important offroad?! Speak facts not just spew bullshit...
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>>14178801
>ifs shit flex

how cute
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>>14178885
Have you ever heard of unsprung weight? It actually helps offroad. Solid axle trucks have more unsprung weight which helps keep the tires against the ground to give traction while flexed out. Also stock for stock a solid axle vehicle will always outflex a IFS truck. But who leaves their 4wd stock and goes offroad seriously? Also the bigger the tire the more weight, the larger the axles the more weight is helping keep the vehicle moving forward while flexing out.
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>>14178885
>It adds some perceived stability
>perceived
Video very related.

>traction gets reduced due to removing weight from the tires
This is such a silly statement I don't even...look at the photo of the hummer on the ramp with one wheel just all hanging out. Now look again at the tacoma, think about how the weight is being transferred in these vehicles.

The tacoma has more evenly distributed weight all around, the rear tires are damn near even while the front right tire has the brunt of the weight the front left still has a substantial amount. You can tell by the compression of the tires.

The humvee has the vast majority of its weight on the rear right and front left, it's also about to tip the fuck over.

Right, you're starting to get it now!

>Most solid axle setups have about the same flexibility as their independent counter parts
That's simply not true.
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>>14178904
>>14178932
Where did you people learn physics?
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>>14178900
Try using that in the real world in the rocks, it has a lot of travel yes, but it wont flex the way you want like a solid axle. That setup is for desert racing, not 4 wheeling in the rocks.
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>>14178932
forgot vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl9PxGF6jD4

>>14178900
That's likely one of the most extreme examples of IFS flexing and it still isn't all that impressive.
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>>14178900

And thats when price comes in to the picture. You get equal results with a tenth of the money spent with SA
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>>14178946
Clearly this is a troll, no one is this stupid. Because apparently all the 4wd experts in the world are all wrong and you're right is that it? Thousands of solid axle swaps each year and all of them looking for more flex, to say they are all wrong when the results prove themselves.

It is you who has no understanding of physics. Because in the real world solid axles and flex beat shitty IFS.
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>>14178670
>>14178689
>>14178858
>>14178869
I'd just like to point out you never posted a pic of your amazing triangulated 4 linked solid axle truck
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>>14179494
That's because I have an IFS truck, I stated that earlier.
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>>14179494
My suburban has leaf springs front and rear, and still outflexes IFS trucks. Pic related, back when I had the 37s...

My 4runner I just picked up will have a 3 link in the front, leafs in the rear with full width 1 ton axles. It will flex with the best of them.
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>>14178885
>It adds some perceived stability
Having all four wheels on the ground is more stable than trying to balance on two or three.

End of story.

>but traction gets reduced due to removing weight from the tires
The vehicle does not become heavier and improve traction when one wheel lifts.
Your net weight is the same. Dividing it up between four wheels instead of two increases your chances of one of the wheels being driven of being on a surface where it can make traction.

>Most solid axle setups have about the same flexibility as their independent counter parts
Except it's far easier to gain articulation with solid axles than it is with independent suspension.
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>>14179623
Still have 47s and 52s? You'd get even more out of it with leafs going with 52s and 63s.
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>>14178637
I just have the same bf Goodrich tires I've always had. Used for everything. 20k miles on it and no problem. Have never been stuck in anything either.
Question: some American company based in Lancaster is offering to five me a full exhaust system.


"This system has a Helmholtz chamber instead of a muffler so you get all the benefits of a straight thru exhaust system with out the noise and with no DRONE!"


Should I do it? They'll want my jeep for a week.
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>>14173506
O-rings for what, quick-disconnect fittings?
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>>14178956
Holy shit did that retard purposely roll his shit?
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>>14179653
It has 52s up front, with the B52 kit from DIY4x, and 56s in the rear which are factory w/ shackle flip. It wouldn't flex that good if it had the 47s... Haha
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>>14179653
With the 52s front and 56s rear it flexs amazingly offroad, the RTI ramp doesn't do it justice.
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>>14179754
I can't wait to see what mine will do with 52s and 63s. But from the looks of it I'll need to build yet another pair of 52" packs. Too soft, too tall, and now too stiff. I'm thinking the dodge 5 leaf packs with an AAL should get me about where I want to be though.
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I hear these are really affordable.

http://www.uaz.ru/en/cars/hunter/models/trophy
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>>14179988

And the Combi would be a cool camper van.

http://www.uaz.ru/en/cars/commercial
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Why is it that every off road thread gets shittered up with SAS/IFS debates. We wheel our shit, can't we all just get along? Nothing on the underbody of that JKU behind my jeep is stock. Dirty old beast with ORIs, 42s and one tons.
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>>14177524
Won't I need to re gear to run anything bigger than 31? Also I need to swap my shocks and springs anyways. It's the oem suspension from 1999 it's sagged Luke 4 inches
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>mfw I want to offroad but have no clue where to go that I won't be trespassing
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>>14180120
Just trespass dude I do it literally every day. There's a lumber yard and another big empty dirt lot full of mid, hills, bumps and shit a block from my house. Usually every night on the way home I hit that shit up
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>>14180140
Don't listen to this fucking retard.
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>>14180119
Depends. Auto/Manual? Base or Rubicon? 4.0l or 2.5?
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>>14180120
Where do you live?


If you have Facebook search your state for an off road club.


Check dirtopedia (sp?)
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>>14180147
It's cool because I'm a police officer. Lol jokes on you dumbass
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>>14180177
That's even worse, hope you get shot.
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>>14180160
Automatic 4.0 sport
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>>14180140
And this is why the public has a bad outlook on off roaders and awesome public trails get closed down. Thanks fuck head.
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>>14180163
WV. There is an off road park 20 miles away but it's closed for the season.

Could also go out to where my parents live but that's 45 minutes away, maybe I'll just have to go there until spring
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How much trouble can I get in for driving on service roads? There are a ton of logging/service roads owned by the city or county down here in South VA. If the land isn't posted as no trespassing, can I off road on it?

Here is a video of me using my WJ on one of the service roads:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nD5vE8nh4c4

I have plenty more videos if /o/ is at all interested. My WJ doesn't have any real performance mods, yet. I intend on doing a 2/4 inch lift with 31's sometime this summer. I'm not a big fan of crawling, more so just want clearance for high level water and holes/ruts. I've already bottomed out a few times on things I've seen stock TJs make it through flawlessly.
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>>14180189
You will definitely need to regear, question is what size tire you see yourself ending up with. In some cases it may be cheaper to find an axle set with 4.10 gears in it then to buy new R/P gears and install it.
If you plan on going bigger then 33s, you'd be better off going straight to 4.88s with the automatic trans.
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>>14180264
Stay off the land regardless. If its a public road/unmaintained road/unassumed road, then it is acceptable for use in most cases. If there is already a trail and no signage, go on it at your own risk and stay on the trail. Don't be a dick and go blazing your own trail and tearing up someones property.
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>>14180235
Thats pretty awesome, the majority of our trail system is closed for the winter. And they are all about 5 hours away from where I roost :(
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>>14180345
I didn't even know it was there until recently, I didn't have a truck for 5 years, I definitely want to check it out. It's King Knob, apparently fairly well known.
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>>14180004

Fuck this gay earth. I want it but america wont let me have it.
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>>14180283
That's why I plan on staying with 31 so no reason to re gear
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>>14180264
>>14180327

You can call some logging companies and ask, half the time they don't care as long as it's not business hours.
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>Ferd Ragner 5 spd mañuel
>electronic 4wd
>won't go into 4x4 low
>kicks out of 4x4 high occasionally
>clunks and jolts coming from the transfer case

W-what's going on guys
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The Renegade shitposter has arrived.
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>>14180686
Your actuators are on the fritz.
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>>14180787
Can I fix that without removing my transfer case?
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>>14181093
Depends. Consult a factory service manual for diagnostic and repair procedures.
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Quick pic before winter set in.
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>>14183087
>redneck sticker
m8, that is something a fag would do.
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All dat flex
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>>14183077
rear diff less than a foot clearance. nice work.

how many fb likes did you get
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>>14183116
momcore ftw
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I think I'm done now... Too many vehicles
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Its perfect for what I need it for.. Dirt roads at 70 + mph and a fun truck when I wanna play... A sas truck might flex better... But I use my trucks every day and I don't like the harsh ride of a axle I also use to pull 2 tons with a tacoma... Your not going to do that in a crawler. Not too mention I only have 1500 into the tacoma "buying it included". & for your information I dont do how you say "face fuck book".

Pic is of the day I got my taco
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>>14183123
Is that Sierra college?
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>>14183160
nah that was back in my high school.
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>>14180762
This is one of those cars I will always dislike because of the FOOKING COMMERCIALS M*
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Whoops lol
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Can I get dirty too senpai?
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K now I'm done... Too much fucking coffee
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never fails.

these threads always degenerate into a bunch of redditors posting their stock crossovers and momuvs or their car parked in a dirt lot.
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>>14183208
This car is used exclusively for off road.
It's seen more dirt than my truck did.
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>>14183223
that not offroad. thats a dirt lot.

please dont be autistic.
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>>14183228
That's the only thing I have of it doing anything.
Besides towing logs around.

I don't get anything of it when I'm in the desert with it cause I'm usually too busy driving it.
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my taco on this trail I sat and watched a bunch of bought not built jeep fags try to climb up for 20min before I cut in front of them and made it in a "mostly stock" taco
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>>14183238
>things that never happened
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>>14183256
Eh. it might have. Last year i was at an ohv park with my brother and a friend, my brother in a 2012 outdoorsmen my friend a 2010 h3 and i have a jk rubicon 2015. We were doing a trail that goes up pretty high and is a little tight but is not very hard or technical and while we were parked at the summit 3 jks came up all with lifts 35s and other mods and they were talking about how hard the trail was.
It really could just be people with mall crawlers finally learning to off-road. But at least they are trying.
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>>14183277
Citiots is what we call em
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>>14183277
Forgot to say we are all running stock ride height besides leveling for winches/bumpers
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>>14183256
Its about balls and not giving a fuck about breaking, scratching, denting or wreaking your shit... People who park their "bad ass off road toys" in the garage and put a car cover on them just dont got the balls or knowledge for 4wheeling. They see the shit on the idiot box and go drop 30 grand on a rig. when they dont even know how to change a tire without AAA.
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>>14183302
Not him but there's a pretty big difference between a $3500 already beat up truck and a new jeep.
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>inb4 gay
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>>14180283
>you will definitely need to regear
No. Would it be better, yes. Your jeep will just be a dog on 33s and stock auto gear ratio. Which is 3:06 I think.
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>>14181198
Y'know, a part of me really wanted the Renegade to be a really good off-roader
It reminds me so much of the small Japanese off-roaders
Are Renegades at least easy to modify?
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>>14178820
Fuck off with your nigger speak and get the fuck off out of here. You clearly know nothing.
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>>14178900
>defends shitty xterra with low a fuck front bumper, open frint diff and soccermom tier ground clearence
>gets called out for being fucking retarded
>L- look guys! I cherry-picked this one extremely rare and expensive example of a competent ifs, so my point is now validated!

/o/ in a nutshell
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Last year some faggot and his wife thought it would be a good idea to take his honda pilot shitheap up a real trail and backed us up for three hours because his shitbox was too trashed to move on. When we finally were able to pass him, he had replaced one rear tire with a spare donut. Later some retards came to their rescue in side-by-sides. Fuck these idiots.
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>>14183480
When it comes to muddy/rocky trails it goes pretty well, better than your average AWD SUV, forester, etc. In terms of actual rock crawling its not awful, but by no means good. That's probably because I'm a huge faggot and I'm afraid to destroy a new car. We won't really know if it's easily modified as there's no aftermarket. The exception being a few lift kits at <2".
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>>14183531
All part of armchair offroader culture on /o/. But hey, if the bus ever gets stuck these guys are on it.
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>>14183851
The armchair off roaders are the ones that bitch about independent suspension
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>>14183858
Quite the contrary. The armchair offroaders are the ones defending their cheap IFS DDs that they don't even wheel by saying they're just as good as or better than SFA.

Then they'll defend their point by comparing travel between a $100k 2WD IFS prerunner and a stock $3k SFA shitbox, as if the travel they get out of their stock torsion bar IFS is comparable to that of the prerunner or even has the remote potential to be.

>>14183594
Lack of aftermarket mods that support a vehicles intended purpose generally implies it's not easily modified.

You can buy bolt on coilover conversion kits for 80s chevy trucks. There's obviously more market for 3-4" lifts for a new Jeep. So if you can't buy them, there's probably good reason for it.
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>>14177401
I wanted to make this capable for a camping rig and light trails. Does 31's with a cheap 2 inch lift sound good enough? 4.0, 4x4, 3.55 on the automatic trans
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>>14184813
...or maybe there's not a huge aftermarket because the vehicle has been out for 1 year.
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>>14183099
Kit Kat is an expert on faggotry. You really should get rid of that sticker.
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>>14185060
>new chevy comes out
>there's a dozen 6" lifts available within 6 months

>new jeep comes out
>no lifts after a year
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Made this thread for everyone to enjoy and appreciate off rod culture not bitch about axles
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beepe
>>14184871
Depends on your definition of light trails.

You may be able to get by with just a cheapo LSD for the rear and 30s all around on stock height.

The best way to go about modifying is to 'modify by necessity'

Take it where you take it as it is now, and see where your weak points are, are you bottoming out a lot, have traction issues etc?

First investment would be a hi-lift jack/ other recovery equipment while you're still figuring out what you need exactly, and then eventually it wouldn't hurt to have a winch, but a hi-lift does a winches job just fine, albiet much slower.
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so many XJs
yus
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>>14185139
Crappy lifts, mostly.
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>tfw I will never own a chopped rally-spec FJ
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>yfw a compact mallcrawler is more durable than a modern Jeep Wrangler

How does it feel to get cucked that hard by Chrys- I mean, FIAT? Why do Americans continue to buy brand new Jeeps of any kind, when they are all objectively shitty vehicles?
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>>14185655
You're retarded as fuck. The JKs come with new gen D44s.. basically a ford 9". and lockers front a rear for the rubicon. they are more than capable stock. certainly more so than that lifted corolla you bought you fucking infant.
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>>14185697
>he took Mohammad's bait

dont respond to muslim posters.
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>>14185697

No one said anything about capable, they said durable.

Jeeps break easier than most vehicles out there, they're just making them too cheap these days. Low-grade alloys and poor quality control. Not to mention the death wobble.

Sorry you bought a cheap piece of shit, should've done your homework.
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>>14185697
D44s are adequate, but they aren't to the level of the Japanese off roaders.
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>>14185709
>>14185711
Absolute morons.
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>>14185750

>muh Jeep
>muh trail ratings
>muh murrikan steel

Absolutely retarded faggot.
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>>14185778
>ive never been offroad in my life
k thanks for sharing europoor.
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this thread went down to the shitter quick
>expecting any less here
I know, I know.
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>>14185799

>hit some gravel roads with your rusted XJ
>WE'RE OFFROADING NOW BOYS
>HOLY FUCK
>WATCH OUT BOYS
>INCOMING POTHOLE
>HOPE MY 49" LIFT CAN HANDLE THIS EXTREME ABUSE
>ALRIGHT BOYS LETS DRIVE IT THROUGH SOME MUD PUDDLES
>GET OUT AND SPLASH MUD ON IT SO IT LOOKS DIRTY
>THAT WAY STRANGERS WILL KNOW WE TOOK THIS BABY OFFROAD
>YEAH
>OFFROADING BOYS.
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>>14173386
ayyyy 500$ shit box specials
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>>14173386
>>14185833

UNSAFE AT ANY SPEED
N
S
A
F
E
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>>14185709
>death wobble.
lol

what a good meme
you don't even know what that means or why it happens.

Don't you have some white women to beat down with your muslim friends?
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>>14185862

It happens when a shitty car company improperly designs a vehicle with a SFA, then refuses to amend their awful engineering despite multiple high-speed accidents.

There are plenty of vehicles that use SFA and don't suffer from this problem nearly the way shitty Chrysler products do. Other companies properly design their tie rods, stabilizers, etc. to work under a variety of conditions, whereas Chrysler does not.

It's not a meme unless you're SO inbred and poor that you don't even know how your own shitty vehicle works.
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>>14185697
>new gen D44s.. basically a ford 9"
[citation needed]
>>14185711
Truth. Unless you're talking about a Rav 4... But then they are no more an offroader than a Jeep Patriot.
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>>14185892
I am not talking about a RAV-4. I'm talking Pajero, Patrol, LC, LC Prado, etc. D44 is slightly weaker than the Toyota 8".
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>>14185892
>citation needed
well lets see.. it has 32 splines, 1.6" diameter, and wait for it.. a 9" ring gear.

go look up specs yourself you retarded ape

a stock jk with chromoly shafts will handle 35s all fucking day long on actual challenging trails.

your shitty jap soccer mom suv will highside just getting the the first obstacle. they arent made for offroad.. neither are stock jks or any stock suv for that matter but they are definitely more capable. it's not a debate you're just a fucking no experience idiot.
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>>14185906
Not the new 44's in the JK.
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>>14185936
A stock JK isn't made for off road? A stock Land Cruiser or Pajero isn't made for off road? Better tell all those people driving them off road, then.
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>>14185906
I understand that perfectly, as I've had my share of Cruisers and Pajeros. This is on reference to the Rav anon claiming his shitbox is more durable than a Wrangler.

The only downside to the Cruiser axles is the earlier 8mm floating axle locating studs were a bit of a potential weak point. Toyota however rectified that with the 100 series and the later coil cab 70 series with 10mm studs.
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>>14185936
>9=8.9
Top lel.
And the 9.5", 33.5mm and 31 spline rear end under the back of my Paj is more than adequate.
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>>14185982
The biggest issue with the D44 and other axles Jeep likes to use are the weak shit axle housings. That's why the Pajero II suspension was able to do duty in light duty CoE trucks.
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>>14185890
lol
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>>14185843
Go away Ralph Nader.
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>>14185998
so truss or sleeve it.. which is what everyone does anyway
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>>14186033
Or I could buy a vehicle that doesn't need that. Which I do.
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>>14186038
Yet you have weaker shafts.
a 3/4 axle is weak in general for actual enthusiast level offroading. You will always have to take steps to help them.

I mean I'm pretty sure you consider camping trails offroading so it's not like you even need a strong axle in the first place.

pic related is jk on factory non-trussed axles with chromo shafts and 35s seems pretty capable to me. enjoy your fire roads.
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>>14186049
>Yet you have weaker shafts.
But, I don't. Cool projection, though.
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>>14186064
lower spline and smaller diameter, so yes you do.
>projection
you must not know what that word means.

you think stock suvs are "offroad" capable so I can only assume that you're definition of offroad is fire roads and camping trails because thats about all stock suvs are good for.
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>>14186073
You're an idiot
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>>14186100
Wow what a brilliant retort!
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>>14185630
The same as any other torsion bar IFS lifts...
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>>14176137
>don't get this in the states

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>>14186164

>FIAT

Why would you want it? FIAT makes nothing but shit, every single vehicle is fucking garbage quality.
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>>14186049
>3/4" axle
Good thing 3/4"=/=33.5mm then...
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>>14186317
>3/4"
>"
>not ton
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>>14185114
Yea but it makes people flip their wigs. Specially when I go into town
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My crusty '85
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>>14187033
>All those rusted out panels
My OCD could never take that. I'd be out in a junkyard with a sawzall getting new quarters and rockers. But then it would need to be repainted.
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Op never said if 6x6 is welcome too, am I welcome /o/?
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>>14188279
I didn't include it but it IS an off road thread man, show that fucker off
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>>14188279
Duece is always welcome. Fucking love em.

>>14188245
It looks like a bush toy, who cares?
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>>14188279
How is it owning a Deuce?
Does it require constant wrenching?
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>>14188368
She's street legal now. I will bring it to an /o/ or /k/ meet one day in phoenix arizona.

>>14188389
It's a 5ton, not a duece. It's got a cummins cta(8.3 single turbo), a 5 speed allison with a 2 speed transfer case. has 14r20 michellin xzl tires(22ply, 50 inches tall). 6.72 axle gears, etc.
It's never needed low gear, occasionally I will pop the front axle in though.

>>14188417
It's not mine, it belongs to my friend/dad's friend. Funny you say that, all it's needed is a new haldex air dryer and the fuel system lost prime once. I've put 1000 miles on it prolly. I have free access to it whenever since I am the one who gets called to fix it. You'd be surprised how easy it is to change the tires. 10 bolt 2 piece wheels.
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>>14188460
Are the M939s equipped with locking differentials or nah?
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>>14179698
Oil filter adapter
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>>14188460
My mistake. Sounds awesome though.
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>>14188573
Not as far as I know. It doesn't seem to need it. I have no switch that would lock one. Only thing I could think of maybe in 6lo it locks them by default. It does air it's own tires up though!
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>>14188245
Yea winter in utah is harsh on steel. I plan on changing them soon
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>>14188460
I'm going to be buying a few acres outside innasticks and would love to keep a Deuce out back in case of the Happening™.
Was just wondering how they are reliability wise, thanks for the info.

I know they can be found for a few grand.
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>>14188707
See I really don't know shit about the duece. This is not a duece, it is a 1994 or 95 am general m923a2. It is not a multi fuel engine, it is not a manual transmission, etc
Shit is heavily reliant on it's air system. Without air you don't have a truck.
It does share driveline parts with a huge amount of semis however. Transmission is Allison 5 speed, medium duty. Engine is an 8.3 cta(medium duty again). Parts are easier to find.
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>>14188676
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>>14178773
HMMWV's suck for off road. I drive them at work... They roll over all the time, and get stuck all the time because they're so damn heavy.
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>>14188933
Theres a guy that goes out with a few others in a group I'm in, Humvee is loaded to the tits, looks badass as all mighty hell. Struggles over obstacles that mostly stock wranglers and samurais just waltz over. He gets hung up a lot.
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>>14189023
>looks badass
>struggles offroad
we call that a mallcrawler around my area. Sorry sacks actually spend money on that shit.
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>>14189960
We have a lot of mall crawlers in my area. A lot of fully kitted out JKs/JKUs whos owners think going down a muddy road is 1337 offroading and look down on my jeep cause I make my own stuff for it instead of spending as much as I paid for it on top tier parts. But I'll actually drive the five hours to hit up a proper rock trail.
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Desu desu senpai


Back when my JK was stock
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>>14190954
Cute lmao.

First proper outing. All stock, the crossmember took a helluva pounding that day.
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The more I play with it, the bigger it gets.
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Riding dirty
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Bumping because IFS minivan fags BTFO again
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>>14185833

Jelly.

The most fun I've had offroad was my friend launching his rusty little Zook on tractor tires up a slippery super steep trailhead, and ending up smacking the bumper into a sapling so hard that it locked the steering (pushed into the front tire). After unsuccessfully trying to bend it back using a come along strapped to an F250, he ended up taking an angle grinder to that corner of the bumper and was all set. I really wish I had an old 4x4 beater like that and 60 wooded acres bordering state land to goof around on.
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Whats the best locker to get for a D44 on a Jk?
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>>14193253
Two door or four door? Front or back locker? Also street driven much or trail rig? These all are important bits of info to consider when choosing a locker for your jeep.
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>>14193408
It's a 2door JK and it would be for the front. I probably go twice a month. My little weekend warrior. OP is my JK.
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>>14193685
And by front I of course mean my rear axle which is the D44.
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>>14193690
ARB or Yukon zip locker. Selectable is best for a daily driver.
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>>14193690
For the rear I'd go with a Detroit locker, they are very quiet and unlock on the street when you make turns, unless you mash it. For the front I'd go selectable like an ARB or E-locker so you could unlock the front to help with steering in the rocks.
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>>14193811
A selectable isn't needed in the rear, even on a daily driver. Just have to get used to it. No point in wasting the money when you can install one in the front
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>>14177385
i have a third gen 4runner. it doesnt have the locker which sucks, but ive still outperformed a bone stock 2013 2 door wrangler sahara offroad. ive pulled a bronco, a ranger, a mid 200's F150, and a 2015 sierra out of the mud. i have a 3 inch lift and33's, but other than that its stock. its great offroad. the locker would be a big plus though. if you don't plan on doing anything too extreme, not having lockers is fine and you can always retrofit some.
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>>14193957
A lot of it comes down to the drivers skill. I've seen open/open jeeps go up the same obstacle with more ease then a rubicon with front and rear lockers engaged.
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>wanna be prerunner goes south
Fuck me
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My mallcrawler
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>>14183155
what the hell happened to it?
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>>14185833
>$500 shitbox specials

You're an alright guy
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>>14185843

Hilux is much much more tippy than Samurai and no one gives a shit about it.

Drifted my Samurai all the time and I'm still alive. It's still my favorite offroad toy.
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>>14194138
And that's what happens with a wanna be 2WD prerunner.
Gotta go fast everywhere to maintain momentum
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Mine, 13 rubicon.

Took it around the west (CA-NV-UT-CO-WY-MT-ID-WA-OR-CA) to do Moab, Ouray, the Oregon trail in Wyoming a couple of years back.

Last year I took it to Alaska and back, doing the Alaskan, Dalton and Dempster highways among others.
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>not american
please no h8 m8s
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>>14196421
>no h8
Hate? As an American I'm super jelly of the fact that thing has no rust. Toyota has made some god tier 4X4s
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literally just had my buddy get my xj stuck
then i proceeded to rape the shit out of the transmission till i got out.
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>>14196459
>what is a tow strap
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>>14196463
he has a fwd corolla.
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>>14196468
>not using the strap and pulling it out by hand
Do u ebin lyft bro?
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>>14196446
>no rust
no much but its enough to keep me busy
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>>14196494
actually we used the roof rack i ripped off to break the snow apart
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>>14196497
Nice yota
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>>14196497
I know people who would trade a lot of money and body parts for a clean yota like that.
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>>14178139
>>14178175
List of mods? Thinking of upgrading my sport JK when I get the money, but I'd prefer to err on the "mild" side of things that give the most capability-per-dollar without sacrificing too much everyday practicality.
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>>14178820
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>>14178869
Haha you guys are pretty narrow-minded when offroading. It can literally be anything that is not on a paved surface.

Yes, solid axles are ideal for vehicles that have to navigate wildly un-level terrain, but only about half of vehicles built for prerunning use solid axles. IFS is just as useful for that sport, which is also legitimate off-roading, except they're going through terrain at ~40+ mph. It can absorb terrain better at high speeds, and can offer slightly higher ground clearance than most solid axles with the same tire size.
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>>14185145
Welcome to /o/
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>>14197307
Well, how big do you want to go? 2.5" budget lift, 33s, sway bar quick disconnects and some skid plates and you've got a pretty decent weekend warrior for $2000-2500 worth of parts. May be more depending on your tire selection
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>>14197407
>dem arb lights

How does it feel to be god?
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>>14197495
they are pretty bright, a friend of mine has them. i wanna get them to replace my old KC's
>tfw KC's are 20 years old on stock bulbs
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>>14197517
>MFW KCs have 29 year warranty

I run KC fogs and spots on mine, they are alright.
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>>14197533
mine work pretty good for how faded they are
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>>14197542
Mine are about a year old. Next to leds my light output is abysmal. Nice having all of them on while cruising down empty highways late at night though. Stock JK headlights suck balls.
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>>14197307
OP here.
I got a Rubicon express 3.5" (no shocks) for $500 after taxes
$1k for king off road shocks
Stinger bumper from Dv8 off road
Side steps that are strong as fuck for rocks also, by DV8 off road.

Not sure if I should go for control arms first or lockers.

I drive well enough to so obstacles that others would use their lockers for, mainly by airing down to 12psi and driving slower than old people fuck
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>>14200013
I don't get it?


A JK
A patriot
And le angry Ute
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Just bought a 2003 rubicon.

Pretty stoked. Should be here next week.
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>>14200520

Wait, you already paid for a car that is not in your possession?


Hey bro, I'll suck your dick if you send me $300 in PayPal. I'll do it in a month I swear.
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>tfw I had to drive through six inches of virgin snow on a dirt trail for 20 miles today
San Isabel is fucking beautiful in the winter but god help you when mother nature decides to have some dandruff. Also fucking Pueblo, this is the worst snow storm we've had in years, was crawling in 1st/4WD for like ten miles.

Pic is some kind of Wrangler for those interested.
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>>14200566
My friend owns a car lot and I used Manheim to buy it at the price a dealer would pay.
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>>14197341
The only solid axles that can compare to the amount of clearance independent suspension gives have gearboxes attached to the ends.
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>>14197495
Those things are trash.
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>>14185826
Hey man, that's just mall-crawlers. Don't lump those jackasses in with the rest of the colonies
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>>14200591
Damn, thanks for the image. Have any more like it? Preferably from 2014 and up JKs? I know hey updated them a bit after 2012
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>>14196394
How are trips like that? I want to live that life once I'm not crippled by the whole "Im in college and my job is terrible" thing. How long does it take to make one of those trips? How much does it cost you, would you say?
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>>14197335
Yes!
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What's /o/'s opinion on portal axles? I'm thinking of getting a set
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>>14201032
I hear they're pretty expensive and are shit for highway use.


Basically, don't out em on something you DD.
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>>14195864
story from the tow truck driver who picked it up is that the lady who owned it put it in gear with the "key on" and it bump started down a hill and went threw a 6 inch pine tree off of a 3 foot embankment into the lady's living room... she shoulda used the parking break.. just saying... oh and i had to clean her dogs blood off of everything
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Going to pick up a 94 zj for 6-800$
Has 212k miles on the inline 6 but just passed emmisions so that's some bullshit I don't need to deal with

Suggestions on what to do with it? I want to keep it cheap as possible
Not going to do any super serious offroading but dirt roads, some paths, and general farm work aswell
Also will be a DD for a while
2 inch lift and some trimming?
Coil spacers for maximum cheapness?
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>>14201150
spacers. good tires, sway bar quick disconnects and recovery hooks should be good for what you want
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>>14200919
That looks to be a rubicon model undercarriage(D44 front axle). They're all the same really with the exception of trim specific items. Not much difference between the 2012-2014s
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>>14201045
Verrrry expensive lol.
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>>14201171
What are some decent tires I could get? Something that's dd able lasts a while , is decent in snow and slush and handles dirt /grass well enough
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>>14201410
BFG A/T KO2, Cooper discovery, General Grabber. I got about 75,000km out of a set of BFG a/t ko 70/30 onroad/off
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>>14173342
Hey m8

I just picked up a 1998 XJ Sport
170Km, chrysler 8.25 rear, high pinion d30 front, np231 tcase, autotragic

1500 bucks. How'd I do? Minimal rust, couple dings here and there, different coloured tail gate. Doesn't leak anything but currently doesn't heat up all the way. Replacing thermostat and water pump in next couple days. Thoughts?

P.S, Stock, no lift or anything. Learned not to buy other peoples nigger rigged shit like the last XJ I had
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>>14201410
im a huge fan of my general grabber AT2'S ive had them on 5 or 6 of my trucks and jeeps, the discoverers are popular too but i dont have much experience with them
>AT2s are amazing in deep snow compared to most other all terrains ive used
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>>14203047
Surprised anyone here has grabbers. /o/ likes to call them meme tires.
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>>14203236
/o/ likes to call alot of things a meme. they are quieter than most other AT tires, they are great in snow, pretty good in mud, and are cheaper than most good tires
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