Crossovers

But they made the freelander years ago...

>>14164431

Women and fags don't want to drive a sedan or a hatchback.

If you make a hatchback with a 1" lift on it, it is now the best vehicle in the world, on road or off road.

Bonus points if it has 75% or greater FWD bias AWD

>>14164431
Have you driven one? It's practical as fuck especially if you live in a big city.

They're comfier

/thread

why would you not want a car that does everything while being rather economical and comfortable

>>14164464
>>14164462
>>14164447
This

Literally the new hatchback.

>>14164431
Mercedes Mechanic here...

Take the GLA for a drive.
Just drive it.
It's fun as fuck.

>>14164488
>driving a Mercedes
Not even once

Not having the length of a sedan while retaining (or exceeding) the cargo capacity is very useful in urban areas.

Plus, SUV's are all the rage these days but not everyone can afford or wants a larger suv so they but the cuv instead because they just want the ride height and the shorter vehicle.

>>14164493
Well no, not on your budget.

They're exempt from automotive emissions requirements and instead just need to comply with the much easier light truck emissions standards.

>>14164526
Right.
>wasting money on garbage
Mazda CX is much better anyway for less money. Then I have more money to put into my business like a smart person would

>>14164541
> money to put into my business

Citation needed.

>>14164541
The CX-3 has such a cramped second row space.

>>14164431
Is there any reason not to just get the A45?

>>14164620
Care? No
There's also other CXs that are bigger if you need it

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>>14164630
The GLA looks so much better.

>>14164641
It looks like an A class that got married and let herself go

>>14164447
>>14164462
>>14164464
>>14164470

samefag

>>14164679
Not even close

>>14164679

Is it too far-fetched of an idea that some people in /o/ like crossovers?

>>14164527
This guy fucking gets it.

My mother buys crossovers, here whole explanation is.

SUV's are to large
Sedans are to low to the ground.
She prefers to be higher off the ground because she fells she can see ahead better.

>>14164447
>bigger cars are more practical in crowded places

>>14164675
That's a terrible description.

>>14164464
Except these things are not the best at anything.

Not the fastest
Not the most fuel efficient
The ones that can go off road don't actually get taken off road

>>14164641
it's literally just a lifted A-class, what makes it look better?

>>14164760
>being this stupid

>>14164431
Once you grow out of the sports car stage (or have the money to have one just for fun) you want practicality. To pick up shit from home depot, go out golfing, take the dogs somewhere, pick up furniture, lawn equipment, hauling bullshit around etc etc etc. A giant yukon denali is just retarded and trucks are so fuck huge now, so you get a sweet cross over. It has ground clearance in case it's needed. They handle better than the big boat SUV's. They get better MPG. they look better. They have more room (generally) than hatchbacks. They basically tick all the boxes. If you guys would stop being faggots you would realize this.

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>>14164488
Agreed.

GLA is the best crossover in the market right now.

>>14164771
being the absolute best in a narrow discipline is not what most people want

the entire reason is higher seating position

>for less difficult entering and exiting
>to see more of the road and above other cars
>to feel more "safe"

only the first reason is relevant, but yeah it's all about seating position

>>14164815
>but mahhhh 0-60
>the fastest car is hte best
>there is no other reason to want something besides speed!

>>14164447
What makes it more practical than a wagon/hatch?

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>>14164809
>implying

>>14164828
FCA a SHIT

>>14164824
>higher off the ground
>more cargo space
>higher load capacity (weight)
>better ingress
>looks better
>taller for superior vision
>more comfortable back seats
>more interior room

>>14164841
nice memm

>>14164849
>>looks better
>>taller for superior vision
>>more comfortable back seats
>>more interior room
>>more cargo space
all questionable.

>>14164804
>They have more room (generally) than hatchbacks
They are literally lifted hatchbacks, they are the same as their normal counterparts, only they look more retarded

>>14164856
Depends on the circumstances. Side by side comparison is always better than generalization.
But like in every thread it comes down to
>personal choice

>>14164828

>bloated 500L
>""""""crosover""""""

>>14164821
>oh no my GLA45 only does 0-60 in 4.8 instead of 4.5 like the A45, how can I show my face in public

>>14164861
>this is not true

>>14164875
it is a crossover.

>>14164879
it's not true.

>>14164890
I know, that's what I said
>using meme arrows un-ironically

>>14164851
Thanks

>>14164849
comparing the A-class to the GLA
>higher off the ground
they both suck at any off road terrain, the marginal ground clearence doesn't mean shit, 99% of these cars will not see a dirt road in their life, let alone off road
>more cargo space
341 vs 421, this one's true
>higher load capacity (weight)
100kg vs 75 kg to the A class
>looks better
subjective
>taller for superior vision
if you need to sit 3 cm higher to feel safer you suck at driving and you should take the bus
>more comfortable back seats
they are the same
>more interior room
again, they are the exact same

>>14164923
s-sorry

>>14164934
>ground clearance only matters if they are mud trucks
Stupid
>back seats
They ARE more comfortable because you have more room, faggot
>3cm
Bullshit, you sit a ton higher

So basically it's better in every way. so....point proven.

>comparing ONE specific vehicle when were talking in general

The vital statistics are 4417mm long, 1805mm wide and 1494mm tall and if you want a yardstick it’s 125mm longer than the A-Class.

The much bigger difference is in seat height because, as you’d expect in a SUV, you sit much higher up in the GLA than you do in the hatchback. -Richard Hammond Mirror review

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>>14164979
Care to show where that extra interior space is? other than the bigger trunk?

>>14165034
# T O L D
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soccermom btfo

>>14165034
>is wrong about everything he said except leg room
>thinks he is right
>buhh buuhhhhhh I was right on ONE thing therefore the 5 things I was wrong about don't matter!!!!
LOL ok faggot. Sorry that mercedes was misleading as to where the extra room came from. But you are still wrong about everything else.

>>14164443

whats wrong with hatchbacks
whatever happened to the focus on the cheapest sporty car you can produce

>>14165073
they realized women dont like to actually drive sports cars. they just like guys who drive them

>>14164824
they're shorter than a wagon. Higher off the ground than a hatch.

Practical. Upright seating position is more comfortable than sitting down into a sedan/hatch.

>>14164809
wtf. out of all cross overs in the world you say the GLA is the best?

You do know that cars as big as Toyota Highlanders, Acura MDXs, and BMW X5s are classified crossovers too?

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wimin driving posture

>>14165148
obviously he's comparing it to things like the macan and x1 which are in it's class

>>14165181
the Macan is Merc GLC Audi Q5 BMW X3 class, one size bigger than the GLA

They're lifted wagons. Wagons are the shit if you want a shitload of space, comfort, and don't want to look like some pussywhipped minivan driver.

Manufacturers lifted them, told the public they were crossovers, told the government they were trucks, and told their hookers that the cocaine's never gonna stop flowing.

They're basically a wagon with all of the negatives of a truck and none of the positives.

Women and fags buy them.

>>14165212
no one gives a fuck lad

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When will /o/ stop denying that crossover is the future?

>>14164473
CUV is just a lifted hatchback.

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My Trax is coming next month. I hope I made the correct choice.

>>14164443
hatchbacks are for gays

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>>14167487
what a pretty car anon! you have such a wonderful taste!

>all this shit tier super obvious shilling in this thread.. im so fucking mad right now. leave my refuge of genuineness in peace you fucking marketers

>>14167487
>1.4 in a "car" this big
>ugly as shit
>no point in offroad because IT will be beaten by a 4x4 panda
Why anon

>>14164760
>tall wagons made on compact platforms
>>14164768
Is it though.

>tfw no RWD hatchbacks that aren't from 20yrs ago

My mom has one of those mercedes, its not bad. I liked her older C class more though, but her buying a crossover was my fault. Her first time riding in a truck what after I bought mine
"holy shit anon you can see everything! You can see over cars making turns and what traffic is doing!"

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>>14167831

>>14164431
>>14164641

>the tiny wing on the back

MUH DICK

>>14169983
GOD thats ugly... why do the newest BMWs look like shitboxes lol

>>14170116
yeah factory rice so the car looks like 8 yrs old toy just to get in minds of potential crossover customer

>>14170151
The X6 is uglier than that

>>14164431
>>14164641
X6's rival?

>>14170154
>implying the a45 amg isnt aviable with factory rice

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>>14170167
That would be the GLE

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>>14164809
Controversial shape aside, I would say that the NX 200t handles better.

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>>14164447
>the juke (which is tiny) is practical
>anything bigger doesn't block visibility
>big cars aren't dangerous in a crash for drivers of smaller cars or bikes
>estate cars have noticeably less interior space
>a big car is practical in a big city
how can you lie so much in a one line post?

pic related: a proper, practical family car.

>>14167487
>drives a daewoo
>"muh badge!"
lel

So does anyone here in /o/ actually use a crossover?

>>14170531
>implying anyone here even owns a license

>>14170531
Most of /o/ is too poor to afford one.

>have to tow 1260 lbs about 3-4 times a year, with a total of 420 miles each trip.
>needed a hitch from the factory to avoid warranty issues
>trucks are way too large and bloated
>SUV's get trash MPG
crossover was my only sensible choice, and it's easy to find one that tows 3500 lbs

>>14164818
This is exactly it. Crossovers are designed nearly the same way as your typical econo-shit-box, but with that high seating position as a first priority.

In other words,
>Muh seating position
>Cheap
>Muh MPG
>Muted and predictable enough for inept female drivers to keep on the road

Actual passenger/cargo capacity, off-roading capability, and sport handling are secondary concerns. That's why comparisons to wagons, vans, or SUVs, or even sedans don't make as much sense.

tl;dr crossovers are taller econoboxes. People just haven't yet figured it out.

>>14165180
It's a trap. A real woman would have a cell phone in one hand.

>>14171109
yup, and it's white mini crossovers are becoming a thing, what people ACTUALLY WANT is a high seating position econobox hatchback, it's just taken twenty years for car manufacturers to figure that out

>>14164849
A citroen ds can do the same while not looking like a pos and so can most hydro pneumatic citroens after it. Crossovers are cancer.

>>14164809
>can't even keep the rear wheel on the ground

Lmao. This is why I enjoy my lifted pickup with solid axles. Independent suspension is PURE SHIT.

>>14164828
>look I can drive through a small puddle!
>muh offroad capability!

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>>14171299
Depends on the independent suspension.

>>14164431
Because regular cars and hatchbacks got over the time lower and sportier, so they're not as usable. oldschool cars literally have everything these crossovers are supposed to be able to do and more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmQWlK8NSdo

I'll jump into the bandwagon when MINI makes one.

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>>14171332
Uh, pardon?

>>14171307
What do fags like you consider off roading?
Because 99% of it is just a bumpy dirt road.
The 1% is climbing massive boulders and shit that takes a mostly custom built vehicle that no one really needs but they do it for fun.

>>14170889
except the same thing can be done by a hatchback with diesel in it

>>14171353
Or a light pickup.
Hell even a light 2wd pickup

>>14164443
>75% or greater FWD bias AWD
>Not just straight up FWD

>>14171357
Or any sedan sold in the US...

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>>14171357
>trucks are way too large and bloated
I'm in the USA. Our smallest pickup is the Tacoma. It's huge, and at 212" long, its about 34" longer than a standard crossover.

>>14171353
>>14171607
>needed a hitch from the factory to avoid warranty issues
If you can find me a new sedan or wagon sold in the USA with a factory tow hitch, I'll PayPal you $10.

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>>14164541
>drives Mazda CX

good luck with that business of yours!

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Posting the best affordable crossover in the market now.

>>14171747

Amerifat here, when I wanted to replace my dakota i wanted a similarly sized truck. Holy fuck trucks got huge in a decade.

>>14173406
More like cuckover

do we really need another crossover circlejerk every couple hours?

>>14171581
a friend of mine has a vw transporter and he talks about its 4-motion thing like it's an STI. it's like 80-20 when shit gets any serious, all fwd otherwise.

>>14164488
>fuck windows lmao
this killed the car for me. I want to see things outside of the car.

>>14176645
It's the future. Even Tesla's next flagship is going to be a crossover.

>>14164431
They are good city cars.

I live in America though, so these things look downright Slav-tier.

>>14164541
Bitch please, if you really made money, you would be driving Ferraris around, not trying to be "humble".

Only a poorfag would be "humble". Even the most humble richfag I know (he donates millions and has a mansion, I kid you not) drives a S63 AMG instead of the S65 because he said "v12 consumes too much fuel."

>Then I have more money to put into my business like a smart person would

>my business

my mom likes hers because it's tall for my grandma and drives through snow good

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>>14177009
>the moment you start running a business you become a millionaire oligarch

>>14171747
The XC70 is almost a wagon.

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>>14164431
The GLA45 AMG is actually only a tiny bit bigger than an STI hatchback. It's a crossover only in name. It's also way more powerful, has a DCT (shut the fuck up manualfags, no one cares)

>>14164431
Would look better without that slav-tier wing on the back.

Also red is a shit color so photo doesn't do it justice. Saw one in white recently that didn't look bad if you were in your 20s making some money, but I think by the time you hit 30 you'd look like a dildo driving that thing.

>>14164707
>getting a cuck crossover
No thanks

>>14177009
richfag reporting in.

depends on the type of rich people. I wouldn't say I know any that would drive a mazda, but I know plenty that won't go above a Range Rover

>live in Poland
>20 cm curbs everywhere
>jacuzzi-sized potholes
>ruts like WW1 trenches
>serious AWD cars cost 100+ mean wages

You say I don't need my hatchback any higher...?

>>14167605
shouldnt you be begging your mom to rider he Taurus?

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I'm currently seriously considering getting a C4 Cactus, they look the business and would be great in town with all that air bubble crap.

Sadly there's not 4x4 like say the Dacia Duster has.. and that its french sadly..but it's a great little thing.

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>>14164809

Nice try mercedes. Those trees on the left aren't growing sideways. Here's the real photo.

>>14167788

Considering that the only competitions in my country are the HR-V that somehow only comes with the ancient 118hp/145nm L15A7 engine and the Outlander Sport, the Trax is the more reasonable choice I felt.

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Thoughts? New Jag F-Pace

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>>14165034
uuuuhhh

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get da fuck out of my way eurokeks.