NASCAR is better than F1. Prove me wrong.
Protip: You can't
It's a free country, you are allowed to have wrong opinions.
Doesn't matter though, because WRC trumps all.
Indy would be best if they added more street circuits. Ovals are fucking boring.
Formula 1 is better than NASCAR.
If you compare them to musical instruments, F1 is a Stradivarius violin, NASCAR is banging a saucepan with a wooden spoon.
everything you needed to know in a handy infographic
>not a single american to cheer
stay mad cuck.
Touring car masters > All other forms of track racing
Bathurst race 1
Bathurst race 2
Bathurst race 3
>comparing 2 completely different disciplines
You be better off comparing ARCA and NASCAR to each other, they both use the same courses.
F1 is very different from NASCAR and closest to GP2, which obviously no one gives a shit about
Even /ovg/ knows to moderate turnleft because Formula Faggots and >muh left turns will shit it up
Used to be GOAT, now it's just a corporate shell of it's former self.
NASCAR is boring as fuck to watch but I guarantee anybody here would be shitting their pants if they drove one or sat passenger flat out. People here drive sub 100hp cars yet they think 800hp is boring lelz.
NASCAR is far more complicated than you stupid eurofags think. The car is always wanting to slid around and there are no brakes, you have to keep the car stable at very high speeds in very tight spaces without crashing. It is also far more exciting than that shti f1
NASCAR needs to be renamed. Since Homologation ended, they are nothing close to Stock Cars. Touring Car Racing still caries the spirit of NASCAR, with the added benefit of turns. Here's a fun fact, one of the only reasons tracks are circles is so they could build them in smaller arenas and but seats at every angle.
That's one unsophisticated front wing.
What's stopping them from making it better? Not even the small teams in F1 are using wing designs from the 90s.
>/o/ in charge of knowing anything about racing that doesn't happen at a stop light
>engines are not provided by manufacturer, but assembled at teams garages
>this, plus manufacturer specific body kits and now, team specific body kits makes Indy the less-speccy spec category in motorsports.
Reminder that late 90's CART was way better than NASCAR or F1.
>a V4 competes directly against V8s
>they last 36 hours of race (in case of Audi #7 this year) plus all the practices
>while the F1's, while developing about 200hp more, lasts 8 hours of race
>go to an f1 race
>fans holding little teeny flags with their favorite team on it
>fancy snob clothes
>see the cars once a lap for <5 seconds
>can see and hear the cars the entire time
>can feel the soundwaves in your insides as a v8 is sitting at 6,000 rpm blasting past you at 180+mph
>this happens over 200 times in a race
autistic children can't appreciate the history or level of engineering that goes into nascar, but mainly because they DONT appreciate the engineering that goes into F1, they just think its cool because they're literally the stereotypical nascar fans of F1. (see: braindead morons)
And you can really only spectate like 1 corner. At least with NASCAR you can see the whole track, or in F1 you can see a good portion of the circuit if you get seats in the right place.
i dunno what you went to, but when i've gone, the flags are huge, the people mostly not snobs (unless you go in the vip section, and even in there the people were pretty casual when I went) and the cars pas by even faster than 180 at much higher rpms depending on where you are, the noise is enough to warrant earplugs (though it is not >muh v8)
F1 cars use 4 engines for the whole season of 21 races. Each racing weekend consists of a total of 5.5 hours of racing including practices and qualifying. That means each engine does about 27.5 hours of racing, not much less than your audi (did all of the wec engines last that long tho?). These engines routinely rev to over 14000 rpm.
In fact, one of the main problems with wec cars is the engine, and performance without reliability is not true performance.
F1 has a more ideal body to cut the wind and yet, because of all the bullshit they did with wings and limitations, it still has less grip than LMP1s.
>which became 5 at british gp
>and they didn't run 24 hours in a row, turning on and off at pits
>f1 is more advanced than wec
actually one of the major advantages wec has over f1 in tems of aero is covered wheels. F1 cars actually have a drag coefficient of over 1, while lmp1 has less than 0.5.
the idea was to say that f1 is closer to wec than one might think, not that is directly comparable in terms of engine duration.
keep in ind that f1 is at a much higher rpm than lmp1.
just because wec has more radical ideas does not mean that the powertrain is more advanced. F1 has more power/liter. Porsche's 2.0L V4 makes about 500bhp, while F1 engines make upwards of 600 bhp from a 1.6L V6. Audi is worse, with a 4.0L @ 550 bhp. Toyota is 3.7L @ 513 bhp
these figures are not including electric assistance, which is only available for a small portion of the lap. The hp boost is higher for lmp1 but lasts less time, and the systems are heavier.
Rally=Illegal Open Street Racing=Offroad racing>Everything else
Nothing else is actually fun to watch anymore.
Well except the fantastic crashes but thats true for all motorsport, i dont mind watching the occasional drag race if shit goes down
i dont even watch nascar and i think its remained pretty much the same.
>crazy cars that just get faster and faster
>No backwards ass rules like F1 or Nurally post GroupB
>level of engineering that goes into nascar
>implying there even is any engineering to turn left
NASCAR by far is the most boring technologically, its a motorsport stuck in the past with a dumb emphasis on preventing change.
That said I agree that F1 is worse watching as a spectator. On television though I'd rather watch F1 or any FIA motorsport.
Outside of America no one gives a fuck about nascar. I'm Aussie and I will admit I do still enjoy watching nascar, but c'mon now op.. No ones denying nascar doesn't take skill and more then just left turns, but its not even close to the god tier motorsports of f1 and wrc.