NASCAR is better than F1. Prove me wrong. Protip: You can't

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It's a free country, you are allowed to have wrong opinions.

Doesn't matter though, because WRC trumps all.

>>14155782
No body outside of America has ever seen nascar.
Its irrelevant.

>>14155790
WRC is the shit

>>14155790
You mean Rally Raid trumps all

>>14155782
Nascar is irrelevent outside America.
And I don't even like both.

>a bunch of rednecks running in circles

It should be a crime to compare this shit with F1.

>>14155790

Amerifat here. Couldn't agree more.

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Indy would be best if they added more street circuits. Ovals are fucking boring.

it would be awesome if they raced in the production FF layouts, a bunch of ford fusions and toyota camtys understeering into walls at 180 mph.

>>14155811
>Nascar is irrelevent outside America.
NASCAR is irrelevant everywhere except rural America.
FTFY

>>14155817
Narrowminded Eurofags don't understand that it's more complicated than driving in circles.

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Formula 1 is better than NASCAR.

If you compare them to musical instruments, F1 is a Stradivarius violin, NASCAR is banging a saucepan with a wooden spoon.

They're both shit.

>>14155848
> Everyone except inbred yokels don't understand that turning left takes mad skills yo

IMPORTANT STRAWPOLL!
http://strawpoll.me/6427404

>>14155790
/r/ing the webm of rally drivers fixing a broken axle by smashing it back into shape with a rock

>>14155861
>Implying NASCAR is shit because the fans are hicks
Fucking kek

>>14155782
Super Taikyuu > Super GT > WEC = Rally > V8 Supercars > WTCC/BTCC >>> Nascar >>>>>>>>> F1

>>14155854
it's a shame you can do neither

>>14155854
>Banging on a sauce pan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27LLPANAgzw

>Stradivarius violin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dagrn_9V4jE

>>14155790
as far as driving skill is concerned, it's definitely up there

but it's literally the worst spectator's sport

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>>14155782
everything you needed to know in a handy infographic

>>14155782
drag racing is better than both

>>14155782
Both are shit, rally it all : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OHZHxde8RE

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>not a single american to cheer

top kek

>>14155921
Are they implying an F1 car costs only 7m to build?

>>14155940
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUauZ9UX7J8

>>14155921
This is the most biased piece of shit infographic ever.

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>>14155983
stay mad cuck.

>>14155925
Agreed.
The races are short, and there are loads of different cars.
Always crashes and engine explosions too.

You faggots have done nothing to prove that f1 is better than NASCAR

>>14156123
It's simple, f1 is complicated with complex tracks and interesting cars, Nascar is a v8 with a bunch of left turns

>>14156044
Holy fuck id kill to fuck her.

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>Comparing mighty F1 to turnleft

>>14156268
>her

>>14156288
o no... What? this is a trap?

>>14156330
Iv decided idgaf id nut in his mouth as long as he kept his clothes on.

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>>14155782
Touring car masters > All other forms of track racing
Bathurst race 1
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5itSmkZoIc
Bathurst race 2
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZDb5HSpyeo
Bathurst race 3
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FF_sgavCfE

>>14156268
>her
also he's dead. an hero'd because he was getting too masculine.

>>14155782
Both are shit 2bh. F1 sounds like a fart can now.

>>14156475
I would of kept him as a cum slut...

>>14156422
Lol chevette

V8SC are great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAFRS5r2g8E

>comparing 2 completely different disciplines
You be better off comparing ARCA and NASCAR to each other, they both use the same courses.
F1 is very different from NASCAR and closest to GP2, which obviously no one gives a shit about
Even /ovg/ knows to moderate turnleft because Formula Faggots and >muh left turns will shit it up

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Used to be GOAT, now it's just a corporate shell of it's former self.

https://youtu.be/Ly2vuzs1-As

>>14155945

Lewis Hamilton acts like a 'murrican though.

>>14155782
It probably is, because F1 has been a tiny engine DUDE TURBO Tire management simulator for many years now.

>>14155782
at lest I can say they are equally boring now days
>tfw no v12

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>>14155875
>not responding to the point

>>14155832
>Indy would be best if they added more street circuits.
Same here.

>>14157817
that was kick ass

>>14158598
>DUDE TURBO
fuel management too

>>14155920
explain

>>14155921
So f1 has a retarded huge budget versus nascar and has more technology in it. Who would have thought?

>>14155854
Genuine kek

>NASCAR is better than F1
>WRC is better than NASCAR

>WEC is better than them all and the only thing that gets close is Super GT
>y'all a bunch of niggers

>>14156335
He killed himself already.
>i'd fuck that

>>14155782
>Protip: You can't
yep. /thread right there. no need to even make the thread. just may as well delete it.

>>14158932

NASCAR is boring as fuck to watch but I guarantee anybody here would be shitting their pants if they drove one or sat passenger flat out. People here drive sub 100hp cars yet they think 800hp is boring lelz.

>>14159178
NHRA used to have 8000+hp dragsters. It was still boring to watch.

Motorsport is good because of the sport part of it, not because whatever other reason such as shitting pants.

>>14155782
Sorry what is NASCAR, you will need to explain it to a none retard.

>>14159197

You sound like a soccer fan.

>>14159276
You sound like a redneck obese murrican.

>>14158649
Then what the fuck was the point?

>>14156248
NASCAR is far more complicated than you stupid eurofags think. The car is always wanting to slid around and there are no brakes, you have to keep the car stable at very high speeds in very tight spaces without crashing. It is also far more exciting than that shti f1

>>14159597
>Danica Patrick crashing about
>exciting
Pick one

>>14159604
>ignoring the point
>being wrong
Pick one

>I don't understand motorsports the thread

>>14159597
why not just bank the coarse so you do not have to turn
or run a sting to the centrer
better yet just hook the engines up to a dyno and keep the contest at that level

>>14159680
/thread

>>14159687
ITT: Eurofags ignoring the point

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>>14158598
THANK U!!

>>14156268
No thats a Corpse.

>>14155782
NASCAR needs to be renamed. Since Homologation ended, they are nothing close to Stock Cars. Touring Car Racing still caries the spirit of NASCAR, with the added benefit of turns. Here's a fun fact, one of the only reasons tracks are circles is so they could build them in smaller arenas and but seats at every angle.

>>14155790
>no passing
>cars barely go 100mph
>sound like shit
>most cars are compact shitboxes

the only thing rally triumphs is drift and stance

>>14157817
goddamn i miss speedvision

>>14155848
Yes you have to refuel orf somethin'?

https://youtu.be/TQZgBiiSDao

>>14155835
This

>>14155782
>prove me wrong
OK. F-1 has the most sophisticated and advanced race cars in the world.
>that was hard

Why are Nascar cars so fucking ugly?

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>>14155832
That's one unsophisticated front wing.

>>14164066
>F-1 has the most sophisticated and advanced race cars
WEC.

>>14164572
Indy has the same car for all contestants, so it's purely about driving skill rather than which team has the most money and engineers.

>>14156475

Sauce?

I don`t normally keep a track of camwhores.

>>14164572

I think F1 started to model their aero after dragon dildos at some point.

while nascar is more complicated than many people think, it is still child's play compared to what f1 drivers go through each race.
inb4 muh crashes

>>14165278
F1 is significantly more advanced than wec

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>>14165304
What's stopping them from making it better? Not even the small teams in F1 are using wing designs from the 90s.

>>14165412
>citation needed

>andré lotterer mentioned WEC has more aerodynamical grip
>engines in WEC are much more advanced

>>14158747
spectators get run over

>>14155921
>damage fixed with duct tape during the race
Kek.

>>14165336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rx_WG9AVdA

google m8

Rally events>WRC>F1>Nascar

>>14165530
Who would benefit from an Indy car front wing redesign? There's no reason for them to do it.

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WEC > F1

>>14165304
you could say that about almost all oval racing

circuits: driver vs car vs track
ovals: driver vs driver vs track

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>>14165304
>/o/ in charge of knowing anything about racing that doesn't happen at a stop light

>>14155832
>street circuits

>>14165304
>engines are not provided by manufacturer, but assembled at teams garages
>this, plus manufacturer specific body kits and now, team specific body kits makes Indy the less-speccy spec category in motorsports.

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Reminder that late 90's CART was way better than NASCAR or F1.

>>14162232

Found the faggot

>>14164047
Carl also didn't ski into a tree

USA 2
Yurofags 0

>>14165992
>engines are more advanced
>citation needed

>>14156044
>I can't construct viable arguments so I'll post something so obviously biased and retarded
>stay mad xD lol

>>14155921
a 7 second pitstop in F1 is disastrously bad, this infograph is really out of date

>>14168124
>a V4 competes directly against V8s
>they last 36 hours of race (in case of Audi #7 this year) plus all the practices
>while the F1's, while developing about 200hp more, lasts 8 hours of race

>>14155782
pre-overregulation nascar was.

pretty much all racing sucks anymore.

>go to an f1 race
>fans holding little teeny flags with their favorite team on it
>wine glasses
>fancy snob clothes
>see the cars once a lap for <5 seconds

>nascar race
>can see and hear the cars the entire time
>can feel the soundwaves in your insides as a v8 is sitting at 6,000 rpm blasting past you at 180+mph
>this happens over 200 times in a race

autistic children can't appreciate the history or level of engineering that goes into nascar, but mainly because they DONT appreciate the engineering that goes into F1, they just think its cool because they're literally the stereotypical nascar fans of F1. (see: braindead morons)

>>14155920
>>14158747
>>14166254
And you can really only spectate like 1 corner. At least with NASCAR you can see the whole track, or in F1 you can see a good portion of the circuit if you get seats in the right place.

>>14170343
to be honest id rather go watch some amateur dirt track racing than nascar or f1

>>14170350
>>14170343
>faggots who never been to Interlagos
>what are TV screens

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>>14156268

>>14170343
i dunno what you went to, but when i've gone, the flags are huge, the people mostly not snobs (unless you go in the vip section, and even in there the people were pretty casual when I went) and the cars pas by even faster than 180 at much higher rpms depending on where you are, the noise is enough to warrant earplugs (though it is not >muh v8)

>>14165992
does not ether have severe restrictions on aerodynamic down force ?

>>14170330
F1 cars use 4 engines for the whole season of 21 races. Each racing weekend consists of a total of 5.5 hours of racing including practices and qualifying. That means each engine does about 27.5 hours of racing, not much less than your audi (did all of the wec engines last that long tho?). These engines routinely rev to over 14000 rpm.
In fact, one of the main problems with wec cars is the engine, and performance without reliability is not true performance.

>>14172528
they really get to see and feel the car close up
I'm so jelly

>>14172599
F1 has a more ideal body to cut the wind and yet, because of all the bullshit they did with wings and limitations, it still has less grip than LMP1s.

>>14172609
>4 engines
>which became 5 at british gp
>and they didn't run 24 hours in a row, turning on and off at pits

>f1 is more advanced than wec

>>14172635
>>14172599
actually one of the major advantages wec has over f1 in tems of aero is covered wheels. F1 cars actually have a drag coefficient of over 1, while lmp1 has less than 0.5.

the idea was to say that f1 is closer to wec than one might think, not that is directly comparable in terms of engine duration.
keep in ind that f1 is at a much higher rpm than lmp1.

just because wec has more radical ideas does not mean that the powertrain is more advanced. F1 has more power/liter. Porsche's 2.0L V4 makes about 500bhp, while F1 engines make upwards of 600 bhp from a 1.6L V6. Audi is worse, with a 4.0L @ 550 bhp. Toyota is 3.7L @ 513 bhp
these figures are not including electric assistance, which is only available for a small portion of the lap. The hp boost is higher for lmp1 but lasts less time, and the systems are heavier.

>>14155790
Rally=Illegal Open Street Racing=Offroad racing>Everything else
Nothing else is actually fun to watch anymore.

Well except the fantastic crashes but thats true for all motorsport, i dont mind watching the occasional drag race if shit goes down

>>14157817
i dont even watch nascar and i think its remained pretty much the same.

>Bigheaded drivers
>crazy cars that just get faster and faster
>???
>No backwards ass rules like F1 or Nurally post GroupB

>>14157817
This is what's great about NASCAR.
It has true American heritage.
Brings a patriotic tear to my eye.

>>14155782
Gotta love the sound of a straight piped V8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNTwJsLMVDk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX8Mhhau0SM

>>14170343
>level of engineering that goes into nascar
>implying there even is any engineering to turn left
NASCAR by far is the most boring technologically, its a motorsport stuck in the past with a dumb emphasis on preventing change.

That said I agree that F1 is worse watching as a spectator. On television though I'd rather watch F1 or any FIA motorsport.

>>14175870
>not realising that there is much more to NASCAR than turning left
>being this autistic

V8 supercars is the shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyyh5mbWLXc

>>14174706
I do like that a refreshing beverage does not hurt ones chances

>>14155782

Outside of America no one gives a fuck about nascar. I'm Aussie and I will admit I do still enjoy watching nascar, but c'mon now op.. No ones denying nascar doesn't take skill and more then just left turns, but its not even close to the god tier motorsports of f1 and wrc.

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>F1
>NASCAR
Kek