ITT, extremely invaluable tools that you CANNOT fix a car without.

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>invaluable for removing nuts and bolts in very tight, hard to reach places

pic related OP

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>>11271817
:^)

ratchet set
screwdriver set
torque wrench
universal spacer set
jack + stands
hammer
Zip ties

There are your very basics. But there are many, many more.

ratcheting combo wrenches are great
got one set of gearwrench, they are pretty cool
any other brands/sets i should be aware of/put on list

>>11271825
>very tight hard to reach area
>not a lot of wiggle room
>have to continually lift wrench off the nut, put it back on, move 1/4in, lift it off, put it back on, etc
>not just having a socket wrench and just moving it back and forth for victory

I removed a transmission from my jeep using only a floor jack, an emergency jack and a socket wrench using several extension pieces. Ask me anything

>>11272395
Funny try removing upper shockmounts on a panther chassis ford sometime. No room for a socket, and almost none for wrenchs

>>11271823
10/10
Before, during, and after

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>>11271817
I'm a motorcycle mechanic. This is the flash light that everyone has right now. In the 90s it was the silver energizer bulb end light. These things are 80 lumins and cost around 25$ I use mine every single day. I put some Ikea rechargeable batteries in it for like 10$ and it does bring the brightness down a touch but when you are trying to look through a tiny hole on an aluminium block that is reflecting it all back it might be too bright with a fresh set of alkalines.

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>>11272395
its literally the only option you have sometimes. Unless you wanna throw down on a set like this

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>>11271817
Assembly of a vehicle requires great peace of mind

>>11272493
I fucking hate that book. I'm a motorcycle mechanic and I'm sick of being asked if I've read it. I started it. It's not bad. not my taste but not bad. But now I hate it. Peace of mind is great but you don't need it to work on a machine. My grandfather was a mean drunk/ww2 pow who rebuilt cars in the 10'x10' shed next to his trailer home. He didn't not have peace.

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>>11272483
This is the light from the 90's I was talking about. A lot of old school mechanics will still have this one.

>>11272520
>Peace of mind is great but you don't need it to work on a machine.
depends on whether or not you want to avoid simple mistakes and have to go back and fix something later, or worse damage things or snap bolts.

I agree that different types of people can be good at mechanic work.

I think the reason this book is becoming more popular is because of all the stupid cafe racer hipsters.

>>11271817
what is an extender and those wonky ass little adapters that pivot

>>11272531
the book is popular because neo-hippies think it's life changing

>>11272570
Wobblys save so much time.

Ratcheting wrench set
socket set
screwdrivers
pliers
Jack

If you cant take a car apart with that, dont be a mechanic.

>In b4 fords wonky ass fuel line collars and water pump spanner wrenches

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the ultimate diagnostic tool.

>>11272639
OBD2 RUINED EVERYTHING!

>>11272655
odb2 is a bitch nigger.
I can poke things to see if they're moving when they shouldn't be, or not moving when they should be.
I can touch it to something and put my ear to it to isolate sound
I can poke someone to get their attention and ask their opinion on something
I can wedge it between two things (like the seat and a pedal) to keep them in place
I can scratch my back with it
I can use it to mix things that need mixing

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this bastard

>>11272689
what the fuck is that?

>>11272607
>I'm a bitch nigga with no upper body strength

jk. I can see where it'd be useful. just haven't had a use for one yet. that, and my 1/2 in. ratchet is extendable.

>>11272689
the fuck is it?

on the topic of tools, how doe's /o/ organize their toolboxes? I've got two in my truck right now and running out of room because no garage to work in.

>>11272607
m8 those are great for breaking wheel nuts loose? Are you not using your body weight properly?

>>11272692
>>11272702
it's made to turn cam sprockets I gues

>>11272693
>>upperbody strength

Nigga, I'm a weak ass twig and all you do is use your body weight and have good leverage.

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Some times I have to work like MacGyver

>>11272711
>>11272693
>people who haven't worked on cars much
I bet you guys use ratchets to break things loose, huh

>>11272738
I use wrenches and liquid wrench/PB Blaster

>>11272749
>wrenches
how often do you strip bolts?

>>11272757
not very often, unless it was fucked to begin with. I have snapped quite a few rusted ones, though.

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>>11272738
Heh, have you rebuilt an engine before? Have you heard of the magic of loosening with oil?
>inb4 v6

>>11272769
>have you rebuilt an engine before?
yes. I've rebuild an old tree fiddy cheby, and a few miata 1.6s and 1.8s.
using a ratchet as a breaker bar is a great way to destroy your ratchet.

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I use my teef a lot to fix things.

>>11272779
Why the fuck would I use a ratchet as a breaker bar? It has less leverage, I never implied I do.

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>>11272782
I had a habit of doing that shit with plastic. At least I did not do that with metal, holy shit.

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Not that I can't do without them, but I'd much rather not cause it makes so many things easier. Like things you would have to do with your fingers

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Also these ones

>>11271823
/thread

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>>11272395
>have to continually lift wrench off the nut, put it back on, move 1/4in, lift it off, put it back on, etc
Yes, it gets very tiring but you just have to do it you lazy faggot
>>11272490
Look how fukken wide the gap is between the internal and external diameter there's not many places that would fit

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>>11272779
>using a ratchet as a breaker bar is a great way to destroy your ratchet.
It's not good form but a good ratchet will stand up to a lot of abuse and most of them have lifetime warranties anyway.

>>11271817
Pic related, my most used ratchets. I use the extendable 1/2" one as breaker bar then shorten it and ratchet like normal. The double flex ratchet is 3/8" and just as useful as it looks although the head is not as slim as other ratchets. The best part is both of them have 72 tooth mechanisms. I've had them for 4 years now and no issues at all.

>>11273926
>worrying about breaking tools
Any tool worth buying has a lifetime warranty anyway. Like I understand the concept of not abusing them but still

>>11273926
Times I've thrown a 4' pipe on my ratchet and curb stomped it: many
Times it blew apart: none
Times I gave a fuck because I could go to the store and get a new one for free: never

Now I have had to go get free replacements for a few things that went to pieces, but they typically take the abuse in stride, which is why I keep giving them my money.

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>>11271823

>>11272607
This, especially if you live in the north east US.

>>11271817
10lb sledge

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Anybody have experience with gearwrench 84 tooth ratchets?

>>11274106
My dad has one of they're 84 tooth 1/4" drive ratchets. It's fucking awesome in tight spaces. As with most any ratchet though, make sure to grease it with some lithium or moly paste. Many of them leave the factory dry.

>>11274106
Not the flex head ones but supposedly they're really easy to rebuild. I started using a gearwrench set because of the "side drive" sockets. Haven't stripped a single bolt in months of using it at work.

>>11274292
>>11275500
Thanks
Any opinions on flex head vs. standard?

>>11272520
Peace of mind and quiet are two very different things

The sequel Lila was better

>>11273960
>Going to the store
>not getting a snap on truck to bring you one


One time, my boss stabbed himself in the hand while using a gasket scraper. In a fit of rage, he used a lead mallot on it and beat the ever living shit out of it until it broke. He got a new one, free of chargr

>>11275887
I had one of those telescoping magnets and completely ripped the head off in a fit of barbarism.

I felt so bad about it, and they shouldn't have given me a new one, but I was poor at the time and went down the store and the manager kid went and gave me a new one for free. They scratched my back, I'll scratch theirs.

>>11275887
>snapon
Thanks, but I'll just buy two spares and a steak dinner instead.

>>11271823
MAH NIGGA

>get home from work
>crack open a coors
>start wrenching on the turd gen well into the night

>>11272668
This nigga right here knows what's up.

>>11275887
>working at a shitty job

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Best $8 I've ever spent on tools

>>11276028
Dammit, see that's how a telescoping magnet should be made. Not this bullshit poindexter pencil shit.

>tfw your favorite shop has a grunt named poindexter who always gets told to rebalance your tires.

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>>11272668

>>11276838
nigga pls
Why would you waste your hard-earned time with anything less than MAP gas? Even for plumbing that's what you want.

>>11271817

> Gearwrenches
> Set of picks
> Car Ramps
> Knipex pliers
> Cheap Crapsman or harbor freight socket and wrenches for modifying
> Magnetic Pickup tool
> Back up magnetic pickup tool
> Mechanical fingers
> Bluepoint rechargeable hood light bar
> Roll Cart w/ work surface
> BFH
> Magnetic screw trays

Mfw I'm an aircraft mechanic and all my tools are imperial so I can't use them on my car or bike

>>11272483
pretty much everyone uses led lenser P7's where I work.

I'd seriously recommend them

vice grips, magnetic pickup tools and these little craftsman ignition/midget spanners if you have use for imperial

ratchet ring spanners are forever

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Being able to use a hammer to turn screws = worth its weight in gold.

>>11272607
This for anything suspension related in the rust belt states.

>inb4 just use a 1/2 ratchet

Do you want a broken ratchet? Because that's how we get broken ratchets.

>>11272702
For me, socket rails/trays, wrench stacking rails and pliers organizer.

>>11277117
Never had the pleasure of using this.
Tell me more.

>>11275887
>Snap-on

I can't justify spending more money on my tools than my cars. I have a craftsman set of 1/4in 3/8in and 1/2in sockets and ratchets. I've had it for six years and used it for every car my family owned. I have yet to break a ratchet and crack a socket.

I said this before and I'll say it again. Snap-on is Gucci for technicians.

>but muh hassle free lifetime warranty

Most brands offer same warranty as snap on anyway.

The most expensive tool retailer I'm willing to buy from is Grey Pneumatic.

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I just noticed this shit. No one here, really?

>>11277117
Almost every time i do some work on my car/ bike i wish i had one of these.
Also a small torch is pretty vital most of the time, especially if your garage lighting sucks like mine.

>>11277205
its a "impact" for manual use, does the same action of an impact gun but with your own brute force, works well on screws do to it preventing stripping by forcing it in and turning instead of turning alone.

>>11277269
so do you just hammer it in?

>>11277205
Put a 3/8" socket with a bit of the right type on the end, and turn in the direction you want the screw to go. Bang on the back end of the impact driver with a hammer, and it will convert the energy of the hammer into rotational energy that will "shock" the screw loose (or tight). It's never failed if I haven't inadvertently stripped the screw first.

>>11277240
Snap-on is for shops. Craftsman etc. won't warranty for professional use. Absolutely for an individual, don't buy Snap-on.

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>>11277240
Tool manufacturers like Snap-On, Proto, MAC, Matco, S&K, et cetera are better for several reasons that you may not care for:

Better metal and forging methods, so the tools can be made stronger and thinner, for getting into tight spaces. Compare the cross-section of various brand wrench handles and the thickness of the ends (especially the box end). Chinese ones are thickest, Snap-On has some of the thinnest.
Vastly superior pneumatic tools, impact-rated sockets and driver bits. If you are using 3/4" or even 1/2" drive air wrench you don't want to use a hand tool socket.
Service directly to your shop, just call up the van.
You will be able to use the warranty even if you are doing professional work. If you walk into a Sears with a mechanic's jumpsuit on, chances are you won't be able to get that Craftsman tool replaced.

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nobodies mentioned vise grips? shit mane If you do even a little work on cars from time to time you're gonna need vise grips!

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>>11272702
here's mine minus 1/2 impact and bodywork stuff

>>11277481
We really should have tool box threads. Man, that'd be cool.

>>11277490

That's a good Idea! I have a whole tool chest full of tools

I've got some old spanners branded 'King Dick', some of them are fucking huge and weigh a ton. They used to belong to my grandad so I intend to keep them for a while.

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>>11277481
I think we have the exact same pliers.

>>11277512

oh god, I can just imagine owning "king dick" tools, and everytime a friend sees it you gotta here the penis joke

>>11277490
Somebody start one and I can keep it bumped for a while...

>tfw live in apartment
>no garage
>have a shed locker thing
>every time I need to do something to the car I have to haul all the tools down
>can't go inside for a piss or anything for fear of people/kids messing with my car while jacked up
>have to squeeze between other peoples cars and lie on uneven tarmac with glass shards everywhere
>every cunt who walks past says 'hurr car trouble? HEHEHEH'

>>11277568

get a load of this pleb

>not living with your parents

>>11277117
hell yeah those are good

>>11277517
you know that's like a standard set of channel locks? I also have them.

>>11271823
ITT: Beergut general

Disgusting.

>>11277371
>>11277269
interesting. Thanks for sharing

>>11277517
If you don't have a pair of blue/green handle channel locking pliers, you don't know shiy about cars.

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Easily my most used tool

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three letters:
>B
>F
>H
honorable mentions:
>breaker bar and pipe
>sawzall
>welder
>dead blow hammer
>mini bolt cutters
>all the shit HF gives out for free (except maybe the tape measure)

>>11277658
I find the needle nose not very handy, they never get much grip on the tip. just seems to slip off

>>11277666
That's what she said.

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>>11271817
a good hammer is one of the few tools that really can't be replaced or substituted

>>11271823
agreed though some problems call for Rye on the rocks.

>>11271825
>imperial measurements
kek

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>>11277708

>>11272738

This. using a breaker bar doesn't have shit to do with how strong you are, and if you decide to foolishly use a ratchet as a breaker bar, it WILL damage it.

That being said, just use an impact, makes those frustrating stuck bolts into sobbing little bitches. good feels

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these little babies too

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>>11277732
Sometimes I use this long-handled coarse-tooth flex-head Snap-On ratchet as a breaker bar. Why else put a longer handle on it?

are long handle bendy ratchets really that useful?
I feel like it's length would always be in the way

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my flashlight

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>>11277817
mine has come in handy on more than one occasion even though it is just cheep Mastercraft shit. Canadian tire tools were so much better when they were made in the US, now they are bullshit made in China

>>11277884
Yeah, there was a Canadian lug wrench in the trunk of the Saab when I bought it. Was surprised to see that it was actually made in China.

>>11272465

Late response to this, but I cut holes in my trunk because fuck that noise.

>>11277807

the big difference is that a real breaker bar is capable of being extended (by say a pipe) without breaking.

with a ratchet I can't really see them designing it where it's length would be anywhere near enough to give you enough strength to actually break it. (unless you're he-man or you're standing on it like a fuckwit)

>>11272490
$77 for a 16 piece (SAE, Metric) Mastercraft Maximum set that's regularly 400 at Canadian Tire. They have a sale for them about twice a year. Go to Canada.

>>11277912
I'm fairly strong, I've lifted cars off the ground without using an extension because the god damn hub nut froze.
You're right though, I'd never use a pipe on a ratchet.

>>11277912
Some are fairly strong
Hotrod magazine did some test of cheap1/2'' ratchets. I think the autozone one took like 800ft/lbs before the drive sheared off

>>11277269
that's not the same as an impact wrench at all

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>>11277918

Also, this gorgeous thing.

These.

Undoing hose clamps, fishing parts that fell out, grabbing on to stuff, this tool is a must-have.

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>>11272668

Pleb shit. Step up, son.

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Can't do shit without these. The original power tools.

>>11277987
>Megnet

>>11277977
It kind of is. Pneumatic/air wrenches use a hammer mechanism rather than continuous torque to turn fasteners.

>>11277987
Fucking megnets
How do they work?

>>11278043
Jesus I remember when I first started trying to do car stuff and I was a skinny computer geek with no muscle at all. I tried to change some brake pads and couldn't even undo the caliper bolts. A year of going to the gym really did me some good.

>>11278043
Those are some mint condition hands

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On the beer theme..

>>11278060
why not just use a hammer? couldve saved you a year of not going to the gym

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>>11278060
Gym in a bottle

>>11278060
>Work on cars with friend that lifts regularly
>He always asks me to bust bolts for him because he has beefy arms but babby grill wrists
For real I should lift more tho

>>11272490
ratchet wrenches and a deadblow hammer are 2 non-standard-but-mandatory tools for me nowadays

>>11272465
Rear upper shock mounts?
Use a pair of vise grips on the top of the post with a ratchet wrench on the nut.
Any tool company should have a set of shock post sockets, to hold the post while turning the nut.
Also, use better shocks next time. Sensa-tracs have a nut welded to the post closer to the body of the shock that holds it in place.

If you have any questions at all about working on Panthers, I'm your huckleberry.

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>>11278060
>tfw average
>tfw can barely crack tranny bolts

Nothing a cheater bar can't fix. What sucks is I threw my shoulder out a few years ago, I have barely been able to use my right arm up until this past spring. Feels bad, I don't even know where to start to regain what I had.

>>11277240
>>but muh hassle free lifetime warranty
the reason shops use snap on is because shops use their tools more than you, and break them more. Instead of stopping what they're doing to run to the store and try to exchange the tool, they just have the snap on truck right there.

>>11278168
This is literally the only thing I've ever agreed with you on.

>>11278842
HF and Autozone both have no-questions lifetime warranty. There's many ways to justify fancy expensive things (like tools). Easy, expedient replacement is not one of them.

>>11277412

part 1/2

ok so i'll give you guys a little insight on the whole craftsman/lifetime warranty for professional use because i work at sears in the tools department. this is mostly for the one i work at. i wont say which one but its in the SoCal region.

I have multiple people come by with jumpsuits or flat out stating that they need it to complete their job and none of us really care. neither do the managers. i know its stated that we're not supposed to give it to them, but once again, no one really cares. but since it matters by place, your best bet would be to just go casual and thats it since i am sure it varies by location.

now on the whole "which one is better" debate, there really isnt one. ive had people come in tell me how they prefer some tools from craftsman and for some they prefer from proto/snap on(these get mentioned the most). some even come in and tell me how theyre surprised how the chinese shit surprisingly works well.

>>11278845

I might be the most agreeable person here. How could not?

>>11279793
Agreeable to a fault. You're borderline passive aggressive

>>11279790


and there are actual sockets and ratchets that are sold and made of us metal. especially for the wrenches. they usually are USA made, but you just got to read around the packaging and in the wrench.

also when it comes to ratchets and you got the usa ones that can still be repaired, all we do is fix the mechanism inside. they have 2 mechanisms. they have a usa one and an "asian" one. so if you got a usa ratchet that can be repaired, youre still in luck and wont have to go to the asians one. whats most important is that the person thats going to fix your ratchet actually knows how to fix em. usually when someone comes by where i work at, my co workers direct em to me because i know how to place the mechanism correctly and put the correct amount of oil. if anything is slightly altered, the life span of the mechanism heavily drops.

so in case one of you guys uses their ratchets, just pay attention to that. usually they'll try to give you a refurbished one, but you can refuse it. you can tell them you want a brand new one and we have to give it to you.

actually am going on a 3rd post now

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Knocks hours off of wrenching time.

>>11279818


when it comes to sockets, they usually have a very, very different lifespan. for some people they last years, for others a good amount of months and others just like 1 month. it varies because honestly some people dont know how to use sockets whatsoever. i hear stories of people using em as impact sockets and all sorts of shit.
sockets are still usa made metal, but the thing is that theyre pre-cut. as in the metal is a bit thinner, but still good metal. not as good as snap on sockets but good nonetheless.


it honestly just varies. for example my dad loves his grey pneumatic tools so much but he always carries his craftsman universal ratchets around with him because hes had it since it came out and it still hasnt crapped out on him. he abuses the shit out of it when him and i go to the junkyard and when hes working as well.

so just be on the look out to get the american ones and youre good.

the screwdrivers though are a godsend. those things are really good.

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Die grinders. Whether cleaning, shaping or cutting metal they make shit jobs much easier.

They can also be used to drive pumps..

>>11279811

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

>>11279922
>implying there's a hidden meaning

Exactly what it says ya dingus

>>11279949

I don't get what you're saying. You're implying that, perhaps, I like too many things?

I honestly don't get it. Not to mention, I'm nothing you could call passive aggressive.

>>11279960
>someone calls you a fat stupid loser (hypothetically)
>You: "K..."

>>11279967

I think you're mixing up passive aggressive and not giving a fuck.

I don't care what some weeblord thinks about me.

>>11279988
good
cuz we all hate you

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I have a rachet breaker bar. deal with it

>>11279988
Either that or you're not witty enough to give a good response

>>11280001
>not witty enough

I'm quite the cunning linguist, actually.

>>11280013
And I'm master debater lol

>>11280016

You sure are buddy.

>>11272689
Looks like an ac/delco ac compressor clutch removal tool.

Dont really need it, but i could see it being handy if your in a tight location.

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This tool may not look like much, but if you do any engine rebuilding on a pretty large scale its invaluable. I cannot tell you how much time ive saved by buying this.

>>11280201
I only rebuild blocks, fuck rebuilding top ends, that shit sux.

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>>11280212
shortblock work is a bitch too, but i enjoyed headwork and seeing all of the valves in symphony.

>>11280223
I just hate working on OHC designs. I can play with cranks and rods all day.

>>11280226
>I can play with cranks and rods all day.

>I like cranking rods all day

no shock there

>>11280246
You're reaching so far you might as well give me a reacharound

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>>11280201
What is this, and what does it do?

>>11280255
Valve raper 9000

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>>11280253
take a joke, crabass.

>>11280260
no u

>>11280255
a universal combination slide hammer and valve stem seal remover tool. Its incredibly helpfull in those hard to reach places like the honda b16 heads and toyota truck v6 heads. Pretty much anything with a bucket lifter this tool is a godsend.

>>11280283
I've never done any engine work but thanks for explanation. If I had the space I'd buy some shitty old engine and practice rebuilding it.

>>11280296
You combine it with a block heater. Bear in mind that if its so cold the engine won't start, you probably can't open the doors either.

>>11279848
>grey pneumatic tools
Canada fuck yeah!
Grey is god tier but I never hear of auto mechanics talk of them though a lot of the heavy duty mechanics where I work use them.