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Future of Motorcycles Discussion 2017-07-13 02:46:08 Post No.17527235
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Future of Motorcycles Discussion
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Hey carfags and bikefags, I would like to take a second to deviate from the normal shitposting and attempt to have a real discussion on the future of motorcycles (and by extension also cars) with regards to speed power.
For your carfags that do not follow the industry, buckle up, because it's kinda interesting. Motorcycle manufacturers have intentionally hamstrung the development of motorcycles with regards to speed and power since the early 2000s. As the lore goes, Suzuki put out the 1999 Hayabusa which had a top speed of 194mph and the manufacturers came together to quietly agree not to engage in a "speed war" and catch the attention of governments (European governments were getting nervous at the time) so they agreed to cap their speeds at 186mph/300kmph which is why every street legal commercially available sport bike you see is limited to those speeds. Furthermore, the engine power itself is limited. I think 185 crank horsepower is the limit they have agreed upon as well.
So get this: for the last decade (more desu), there have been ZERO changes to the power production of sport bikes. These companies have managed to continue their sales by making pointless changes year after year to bikes in an effort to make them seem like they are new and redesigned. Styling changes, the addition of electronics, weight reduction, etc... ANYTHING but actually making more power or the bike's faster.
So my question is: how much longer can they keep this shit up before consumers say enough is enough and stop buying their shit? It's not like the physics of the gyroscopic effect changes from year to year. Sport bikes are literally the same geometry-wise today as 10 years ago. There is no reason to buy these new bikes.
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The only way around this I can see (as seen in the Ford GT and some other newer model cars today) is the addition of a "track mode" which is an electronic setting that unlocks more power from the engine. Through servos in the exhaust and probably the intake, a higher air flow is accommodated and changes to the fuel table unlock this additional power. Ducati does something similar with the Desmosedici and the Panigale I think where they can advertise a particular crank horsepower but you have to install the "race exhaust" for the maximum performance which is included with your purchase.
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And a lot of this obviously boils down to emissions and other government regulations. These manufacturers have to accommodate the lowest common denominator when putting out a new model so they don't have to reinvest in redesigning it in a few years. Just imagine how much more leeway these companies would have if they didn't have to meet California's requirements and instead just met the requirements of the 49 other states. Just imagine if they didn't have to meet the requirements of Euro4 AND didn't have to anticipate the Euro5 changes either.
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>>17527249
>California and Europe pussyifying everything as usual
Every board I visit, its quite literally the same thing. /out/, /biz/, /k/, /o/, /pol/, and even /tv/ theres always some stupid bullshit that comes from these hellholes.
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Pics thread time! Nothing in the catalog so....
> Post engine bays
> Post instrument clusters
> Post in-seat shots
> Post interior shots (clean or dirty)
> Post the whole car
I'll start things off with my shitbox...which I never see anyone talk about. Probably not a good thing.
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2.5l V6 DOHC Duratec. Very cramped engine compartment. Not bad to work in once you get a couple parts out.
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And the whole shit box
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What does /o/ think about it as a first car? Gen 8 to be exact
Is 2.4 150HP going to be any fast or would it be slow anyway?
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You'll be slower than my first car Sam you sack of shit
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>>17526929
garbage. get a civic for 3k.
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>>17527082
I would rather still use buses
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Itt post your recent car spots
Pic rel first time seeing a crx, damn that's a neat little car
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Anyone know what car this is?
Saw it driving through my town
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>>17526832
1991 Volkswagen Passat B3 "GL" Tdi
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>>17526832
Toyota Prius
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How can an engine LOSE torque as its RPM goes UP???
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>>17526211
if the valves are closing to quickly for the engine to breathe an optimal amount, for example
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>>17526211
lots of different reasons, its more common in older carborated engines though
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>>17526211
Because the valves open as a fraction of each revolution. As RPM increases, the valves are still open x% of the time, but now that same airflow has to feed more and more combustion cycles. Effectively, it's running out of air.
Also, internal friction increases drastically at higher RPM. It's mainly piston/cilinder contact that causes this, because those need to have a good seal (=more friction) in order to prevent blowby.
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COMFIEST POORFAG MOBILE 2017-07-13 06:04:52 Post No.17525948
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Fuck speed faggots, all I want is a high quality comfy and stylish car. Budget is around 5k could go a little over for the right car. Looking at a Lexus LS400 right now but having a hard time finding a low mileage one in my area. Any recommendations? Pls nobody recommend a shitbox audi that will fall apart a week after I buy it.
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>Pls nobody recommend a shitbox audi that will fall apart a week after I buy it.- 0 post shown.
shut
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all of the LS400s I have seen over the last few years are absolutely hammered to hell.
if you want top tier comfy and a decent car, I recommend any full size 2 or 4 door japanese luxury car from the last 14 years. my acura is top tier comfy, but I think it is lame to drive. That being said, my favorite car I have owned and the number one car I can recommend is a used lexus RX. Any generation will do, they are all extremely satisfying.
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Done
>amerikeks can’t have all this comfy
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>check out a YouTube vid of a guy reviewing his new f250
>he's already had to take it to the shop a couple of times
>heated steering wheel broke during the making of the video
(((American))) """"""""""""""reliability""""""""""""""
Built (((Ford))) """"""""""""""tough""""""""""""""
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Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8 but I have to get to my Rx-8 before this deb8 gets to ir8
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>>17525079
I work at a ford Dealer. The new F150, F250, F350 have tons of problems - do not buy
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> 1900s, ford vehicles were made for the middle class family in mind, including the f150
> 2000s, msrp of new ford's are for the upper class in mind now
Where did it go so wrong? I'll just stick with straight six 90s f150s
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Alright, gonna buy one of these cars. Which one would you recommend?
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None. Get a used Mustang GT
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I think the miata looks the best, so if I were to ever purchase any of those 3 cars I'd get the miata.
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Holden GTO
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Subaru general thread?
Who here actually has one?
Why does /o/ seem to hate them so much?
were they bullied by a subaru owner when they were younger or something?
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I own a V3 STI, and wife has an 04 Impreza TS.
They're solid cars... they have reliability issues because of these idiots who redline them on every gear change.
Our 04 lost the tranny (a single bearing died) at 280k KM... a starter a few years ago.. and I replaced the rad before it started spewing, was $15 for one that looked nearly new at the pick and pull.
/o/ hates them because they can't afford a performance model, and they're sad that their base model Impreza is slow as fuck.
Seriously, our EJ25 is soooo slow... that's probably why /o/ is mad.
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>>17525089
Also, I bought a used tranny, and also bought the parts to repair out old tranny..
$50 bearing, $6 gasket, and $10 oil seal...
So now I have a spare tranny.
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>>17525089
Canada, I'm assuming? Jelly of the STI.
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I flag traffic for a living
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I want to punch you in the face.
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>>17524216
I want to dent your riced out shitbox with my sign
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>>17524207
why do you fuckers never take down your signs when you're finished work and leave a confusion between drivers whether to do 50 or 25
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Does anyone here daily a 90s vehicle? 2017-07-12 06:10:43 Post No.17522529
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Does anyone here daily a 90s vehicle?
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I'm looking to buy a rugged SUV but everything buil in the last twenty years looks like bland bullshit. All the cool trucks and SUVs I like are from the 90s. I see them listed online as running good or whatever, but is it hard to daily a car that old? Do you have to pay a lot for repairs and stuff? First car buyer asking.
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If anything I'd replace the rubber parts and whatnot to try and perform preventative maintnence, I'm not so bad with a wrench and have some mechanical knowledge.
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>>17522529
the good life m8.
I drive two shit boxes. Just did spark plugs on my truck, and shocks on my 80's sedan.
You gotta stay on top of 'em, but the nickel and dime parts on occassion is still less than the regular monthly payments and higher insurance costs of paying off a 'NO INTEREST LOAN'.
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94 Golf mk3. It's good.
90s was the last good decade of car design.
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It's over, Lexus won.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqBex_0U27U
>AMCI Testing, one of the most respected independent automotive testing companies in the world, has conducted a comparison between the Lexus LC 500 and the Aston Martin DB11
>Only AMCI Testing work meets the strictest requirements set forth in Section 5 of the FTC Act, substantiating claims and guarding all parties against unfair and deceptive advertising practices which are subject to prosecution by the federal government.
>As proof of the unassailable substantiation services we offer, no ‘AMCI Testing-Certified’ competitive claim has ever been retracted due to a legal challenge- a record that spans nearly 30 years.
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>uploaded by: LexusVehicles
all credibility: lost.
One of the official Lexus youtube channels actually posted a ''real'' video of the RC-F beating an M4 on a track.
Real life tests obviously proved that the M4 wipes the floor with the RCF on both track and straight line.
I bet this is another case of false advertising by Lexus.
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>>17522575
>This level damage control
Post that video then and with proof that it was done by an INDEPENDENT testing company just like the video I posted.
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wtf? I love Lexus now.
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>live in Texas
>every single road looks like this
>arrow straight
>not a single hill for miles
>no twisties, at all, anywhere
>have to drive around Houston to actually have any fun
>that fun consists of cutting thru traffic that flows af 90+ on a slow day and trying not to die from all the unlicensed, uninsured niggers and illegals
Why don't I live near some mountains or some shit? I'm so bored. I wanna die
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This is literally the sharpest curves for miles around.
It's a 65mph main road so they are long and wide for all the idiots in SUV's. Not interesting at all.
All the country roads are either private and fenced off, or impassable in anything but a 4x4 with fat ass mudding tired
Every time I find a decent looking road on google, I drive my ass up there and it's either boring, blocked or as mentioned, impassable.
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I'd mud wrestle Hillary Clinton for a chance to drive these kinda roads.
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>>17518676
I used to live in Corpus and I feel ya man. Even the Hill Country isn't all that.
If you want roads you're just going to have to move. I now live in southern Indiana and the state highways around here and in northern Kentucky are pretty good. County roads can be good or rough as hell. Thing is there are no jobs. And snow. Never forget the snow.
Donk or Stance?
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bottom pic because I legitimately would be in fear of my life driving around top pic in ghetto areas.
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>>17515277
i'd rather neck myself
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>>17515277
Gaschamber
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/CCG/ - Classic Car General
Classy dealership edition.
Bring your classic and lets all get rust and gasoline in our eyes together.
>Cars are considered classic at 25 years old
>Everybody has their own taste, enter if it's of age or rarity
>Post your classic, your work on it, and get advice
>Any and all discussion about classics welcome
>Any and all classics welcome regardless of nationality
>Rust is a bitch, and not for the faint of heart; tread lightly
>You will inevitably spend twice your budget, no exceptions
>That classic you're eyeing on Craigslist definitely needs a shit ton of work
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Smells like chicken.
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Possibly going to be the next owner if everything goes well tomorrow.
Anyone know how bad a 352 with a 3spd auto going to be on gas?
I had a 66 Dart with a slant6 and 3spd, and I got 8-17mpg with it.