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http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35354579

> 2015 "shattered" the previous record set in 2014 by 0.13C.

>2015 also was the first full year to break the 1C barrier above pre-industrial levels

> there is no evidence that that warming trend has slowed, paused, or hiatused at any point in the last few decades

/POL/ BTFO!!! SCIENCE DENIALISTS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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inb4 heartland institute
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The world is the warmest it has ever been since it was created millions of years ago????????

Where do these obvious retards come from?
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>>18335
>there is no evidence that that warming trend has slowed, paused, or hiatused at any point in the last few decades
I thought we just had 15-20 years of no warming, and then some science nerds said the sun was set to enter a dormant period by 2030 leading to a mini ice age.

Fucking make up your minds.
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>>18344
> some science nerds

Bro you gotta work out what scientific consensus is, and what the scientific community largely says about global warming. I'm not smart enough to make these models myself, and there is a chance they're all having themselves on, but god damn man, retards who think they are smarter than the well thought out simulations simply because there is less short term evidence than they expect.
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>>18364
All the super computers and the advanced programming skills of the best scientific minds working for national weather departments of countries all over the world and the can not predict accurately weather / climate a week away! So how the fuck can those same scientists accurately predict the weather / climate 100 years from now????

And check the dictionary before you spout the weather is not climate bullshit.
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>>18335
>world is getting colder
>MUH GLOBAL WARMING
also
>any proof man has provoked climate change and not the environment itself
>2016
It is 2016 folks,stop with the eco-activist memes
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>>18366
Because trends are easier to spot.

In the short term, weather is volatile.
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>>18368
Green-House Gases
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>>18366
Weather is a part of climate, it is not climate. Your skepticism, when applied incorrectly, would also question why an average is much easier to determine than a single person's result.

Please say you wouldn't question that Summers, in the north, are the hottest part of the year just because it snowed once in June.
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>>18366
Climate modelling =/= the weather.
You're an idiot.
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Geology student here. As part of our course work we had to sample and create our own models for the North Queensland climate using data we collected in concert with data previous students over the last 12 years collected.

Yeah, feeling pretty sweaty down here. It's getting hot.

Human driven climate change is real man, it's called global warming and any quick perusal of any reputable science paper on the subject will tell you we're fucked....
But going 'Green' is bad for the economy so here we are.
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>>18533
if there wasn't such an insane amount of money to be made from carbon taxes, and pushed by a public figure (Al Gore) who lied to America's faces about how NAFTA would be great for the economy, and just happened to have close ties with Enron, it might be easier to take man-made climate theory seriously.

not to mention the expulsion from the scientific community for a differing opinion, the ad hom attacks, and the supposed predictions that never came to fruition...

Its just the new religion. don't blaspheme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCy_UOjEir0
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Why is it mostly only Americans who have a problem with AGW being a thing?
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>>18364
In a business sense, the more complicated a projection model, the more error prone it is.
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>>18539

Because one party doesn't believe it even exists and the other party's one and only "solution" to it is to raise taxes on the middle class.
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>>18552
From a mathematical sense, relying on a model is a very dangerous thing, too. There are systems that are extremely susceptible to small perturbations that simply don't model well. The modern explanations for models (As CO2 content increases, the greenhouse effect increases, which increases temperatures depending on albedo, which melts ice, which reduces albedo and simultaneously produces a temporary cooling effect along certain ocean currents, which alters the ocean's capacity for absorbing CO2, which ...) sound exactly as if they're describing PDE systems that simply don't model well.

More concerning is the fact that we don't fully know the system. It's only been in recent years that the idea of the oceans absorbing CO2 has been seriously taken into account, for example. This was (from my understanding) a reactionary change: the thought process went along the lines

>Our model works up until five years ago, and then it fails, why?
>Oh, here's a thing we didn't think of, let's add it.
>Now our model works until the current year. Let's make predictions.
>It's now five years later, and we have the same problem again.
>Repeat

How do I know the current model isn't missing something else big? My background is in mathematics, so I'm often critical of the applied side, but I'm not impressed by models unless they successfully predict. Until then, how do I know these incrementally better models aren't (to grossly simplify) a Taylor series, when the real function is sin(x)?

It doesn't help that we've only had good data for the last 40 years or so, and that we're trying to predict a long-term system. It really doesn't help that the data gets adjusted: see https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/06/23/noaanasa-dramatically-altered-us-temperatures-after-the-year-2000/ (the link is a bit alarmist, but my point is "the published data was wrong at one time or another, we don't know why, so who knows if it's wrong now and will need changing later?").
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>>18535
Someone will always try to profit, doesn't change the facts.
I can't change your mind, if you really want to know, read an introduction geology book. Specifically, parts about Cretaceous environments and the impact of plants in later years on this type of environment.
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>>18335
>makes a thread on the>>18335
lamest board on 4chan that virtually no one visits about a vastly superior board
Kek move out of your parents basement already you decrepit NEET faggot
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>>18377
>also
Sun-Spots
Complex-Planetary-Orbital Cycles
China-Pollutes-More Than-Us
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>Global Warming
>Climate Change
>Extreme Weather Patterns

Make up your fucking minds, also, serious shit was supposed to go down by now but it hasn't, so......
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>>18335
I want climate change to be mitigated, so when Florida is underwater, all of its criminally insane inhabitants don't move near me.
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Why should I give a fuck whether or not 'global warming' exists?
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>>18335
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0aFPXr4n4
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>>18626
because it will kill everyone

arctic-newsblogspotcouk

sites.googlecom/site/runawayglobalwarming/the-non-disclosed-extreme-arctic-methane-threat
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>>18340
>US data suggests that 2015 "shattered" the temperature record by the widest margin ever recorded.
>ever recorded

They weren't recording the temperature then you tool
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>>18533
Ok, so what do you say to the actual graduated geology majors that have differing opinions?

You ever pause for a second and think that your professors might give you certain coursework that would lead you to think like them?

>brother has been a geologist in the professional community for over 10 years. >Doesn't believe in climate change
>ice core samples show carbon levels have been higher in the earth's past when dinosaurs and shit were wandering around
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>>18340
>since it was created millions of years ago
Kek
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>>18657
HAHAHAHAHA shit you're dumb
Ice core samples only go back about a million years ago. Despite what they tell you in your Bible Studies class, dinosaurs went extinct over 65 million years ago.

And BTW, ice core samples show that CO2 is higher than at any point in the past million years, and the rate of increase is something like 50x greater.

Sediment core samples go back about 300 million years, and still show that the rate CO2 is increasing is faster than its been at any point in the past 300 million years

>>18539
Because we have a lot of Bible-thumping religious nuts who think that science is fake and only God can control the climate.
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>>18665
>you have to be an atheist to believe in global warming
Dumb humanist non-religious closeted metro-sexual feminist millennial post-modern piece of fucking shit. Go eat your vegetarian food you cocksucker.

Please kill yourself. PLEASE.
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>>18340
>millions of years ago
I think you meant thousands of years ago
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>>18780
Great arguments, fag.
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>>18665
If people care so much about CO2 then maybe we should stop global deforestation so it has somewhere to go instead of nowhere.

Oh but no, instead let's tax the middle class and ignore how the toilets of the world are bulldozing their continents and doubling their population every other year.
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>>18783

Recordings started only 170 years ago...
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>Planet bursts on fire, killing all humans
>Nice
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>global warming natural guys
>lets just keep pumping greenhouse gasses in the air and make the problem even worse!
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Biggest greenhouse gas is really water vapor. Your produce water vapor and CO2 when you breathe. Fix the issues! Stop breathing.
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I live in the pacific northwest and we've been breaking heat records for five years in a row. The famous rain we supposedly get is gone. It's dry and hot as fuck here 3/4 of the year, then winter is about 50 degrees each day with a slight drizzle.

When cunts tell me that they want global warming because they like summer, I want to knock their fucking teeth in. Daily averages of 95 aren't fun at all, especially in a region where nobody has AC because summers were typically 20 degrees below that.
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>>18657
>>brother has been a geologist in the professional community for over 10 years. >Doesn't believe in climate change

You ever think that maybe you just put more weight on his opinions because he's your brother?

Think carefully. What industry does he work in? Why would someone who works in that industry want to deny climate change?
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>>18603
Just keep them there and let them drown.
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>>18799
>I'm the fag
Nice response, socialist.
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>>18835
Yes, but excess water vapor from greenhouse gases aren't good for the atmosphere. When there is too much water vapor the earth will not properly cool.
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hurr all predicitions have been wrong but it's still real

hurr the climate has always changed but now it's our fault

you faggots are the worst
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>>18995
Don't you dare try to confuse us with the facts
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>>18657
> when dinosaurs and shit were wandering around

This is not incompatible with global warming predictions. Ecology would have been different then, perhaps more suited to a warmer client. Global warming will be destructive to the ecology that humans require to live. That's a problem.
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>>19021
You are right actually.
CO2 levels in the past were generally higher, with a higher level of humidity and average temperature as a result. The rise of plants, amongst a hundred other factors (plants are the big one) began to reduce the free CO2, enriching O levels in the atmosphere and reducing global temperatures. This was, of course, over a few million years.

By burning coal (CO2 rich fossils) we're releasing it back into the atmosphere at an alarming rate, faster than the natural environment can keep up with (evolution etc) and thus dooming a vast swathe of species to extinction unless something is done.
It's also going to get fucking hot again.

This is a hugely simplified explanation but will suffice for an anonymous image board.
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>>19030
I'm going to add some more detail before someone gets retarded on my post.... When I said ''a few million years'' I actually mean 300+ million years. So it's a very long time.

Initial content was 2000+ PPM of CO2 reducing to ~200 over 300 years ago. Since the industrial revolution we have now risen to 400+ and rising.

Think about that time span.
PS: on shitter right now. Please excuse inaccurate PPM values. I really cbf looking up exact values but you get the idea.
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>>19031
And before someone goes "we can't record CO2 PPM millions of years ago"..... Yes we can. They're called rocks.
That's why geologist run the climate show, it's all recorded in rocks.

They're like adorable little time capsules, and I love them to bits =3
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>>19034
>They're like adorable little time capsules, and I love them to bits =3
Finally, someone who understands this feeling <3
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>>19034
>and I love them to bits =3

even if it's real, you aren't worth saving

gonna go pollute just for you
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>>18894
Good point
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>>18780
it's not that only atheists believe in global warming, it's that 99% of science denialists are religious, especially Christians. Not everybody who understands science is an atheist, but virtually everybody who thinks science is a hoax is religious
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>>19139
Subjective or objective fact?
Not him, I'm a climate change advocate, but having the source for 99% would be a nice addition to my repertoire.
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earth was literally entirely covered in ice for hundreds of millions of years once and didn't have any oxygen in the athmosphere for most of its history. It's gonna be fine.

We on the other hand.
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>this thread
>american education

Haha humans are so fucked. Thankfully not in my lifetime.
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>>19281
It's been said many times before that nature will always find a way.......... With or without us.
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>>18539
We have rappers who go on twitter and say that the world is flat. I'm serious.
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>>18366
weather is not climate
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>>19971
>dumb nigs
what else is new
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>>21312
Black science man (who is black) gave a good response to all of it, and his nephew (who is also black) made a rap responding to B.o.B.'s rap song.

But sure, keep talking about "nigs" if you have nothing other than your skin color to feel good about
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>>21438
And of course let's not forget that ITT and elsewhere are many dumb white people who believe science is all just part of some government conspiracy
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