Lobbyists Work to Lower Voting Age to 16 in DC

Bad idea m8. Most 16 year olds are retarded and I'm 23 and wouldn't even let people who are my age vote because they're retarded as fuck.

>>17911
sure but they should then be treated as adults in court

>>17911
>>"A lot of young people feel very powerless and they don't feel that their voice matters,


Because it fucking doesn't nor should it

I think it would be great if kids my age could vote since bills and laws affect us too. My main problem is that it wouldn't raise the amount of votes by a large portion, and even the small portion it does raise it will be kids regurgitating whatever bs their parents, friends, or the tv said. But then again it's probably that way with 18+ also

I've heard this since I was that age.

There's nothing wrong with waiting until 18 to vote. If 16-18 year to olds feel under represented; its because that age group only consists of a small portion of the whole.

The 'I can drive' argument doesn't work on me. By most measures, you are considered a minor until you are 18, and really you're not truly an adult until you are 21.

Be patient like the rest of us were. You'll be able to vote for the socialist voluptuary soon enough.

>>17926
>I think it would be great if kids my age could vote since bills and laws affect us too.
What about lettting infants vote, laws affect them too. Won't somebody think of the children?

>>17916
So you can legally have sex with 16 year olds?

>>17911
They all want to vote for Sanders because DUDE WEED LMAO.

>>17936
Also because DUDE FREE COLLEGE LMAO which seems like it would be the worst band-aid for a shitty broken system since the ACA.

>>17911
Why not just let everyone vote? Find yourself in america, go vote .

>>17932

this would be my requirement for this law to pass.

>>17911
So they're trying to get some flexibility to move the age of consent down? It's surprising the pedo rights movement is moving as early as it is.

It also sounds like a way to exploit unprepared voters into voting based on marketing instead of substance. It obviously won't improve participation rates because everyone's first experience with voting will be high school kids going "lol who cares let's go party."

In the UK sex is legal at 16, but 18 to vote

>>17932
Sex at 16 is legal, 18 to vote

>>17932
age of consent is 16 here, i was talking about criminal court i.e no lighter sentences because they are 'children' if you can vote you're and adult

>>17911
>In the 2014 elections, voter turnout among people under age 30 hit its lowest level in 40 years
What young person is going to come out and vote in a midterm election? This, coupled with grandma always voting, is why the legislature always swings right during midterms.

>>17912
Most 16-year-olds are also unlikely to vote. But this means they're encouraged to be active citizens at a younger age, so young voter turnout would probably rise a little bit.

At least, that's what I'd guess. Not sure if I support the move, but I don't feel the "16 year olds are retarded" is a valid argument.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9F5Dl4VZf8

>>17911
So they can vote on national level topics, but cannot drink or smoke?

Voter turn out is low because we think/know our voice doesnt matter. Fix representation, and the voters will come

Age of majority should just be 21 again.

>>17989
Most are just going to be a proxy vote for their parents

>>17932
I can legally have sex with 14 year olds if I'm cute enough to have their parents be okay with it.

If they can be tried as adults for their crimes, they deserve adult rights. A person is either an adult or not an adult.

>>17911
Lower drinking age, raise voting age.

>>17911
Fuck no that's a ploy to get democrat votes

>>17911

>letting people vote who haven't even taken our shitty excuse for a government and economic classes yet

No , FUCK no , The small percentage of people voting are misinformed enough.

How hard is it to pick up a copy of Thomas Sowell's Basic Economics?

How hard is it to realize the constitution is the greatest legal document ever devised and should be preserved in its fundamental ideals

>>18025
Let alone Sowell's Trickle Down Theory, Affirmative Action Around the World, Controversial Essays ... and in retrospect, most of what he's written since 1963.

>>18025
>>18027

lol Thomas Sowell.

>>18023
DC is going to go blue, whether 16 year olds can vote or not.

>>17936
Weed is pretty legal already in DC.

>>17912
You'll find out that your peers are rerarded at any age

>>17911
I'm cool with it as long as they're also legal to fuck.

>>17911
trump would be dead, all the hipster tumblr teens would automatically vote for sanders

Why doesn't anyone address moving the drinking age to 18 while they're at it?

If you can not only join the army at 18, but be forcibly drafted at that age as well, what argument makes sense to say that you can't buy beer until your 21? Where did that number even come from?

>>17912
Do you think that'll ever change? What's that quote again, about the beat argument against democracy being the average voter?

>>18105
Remember that time when moms demanded control of America? MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) said that an unreasonably high number of drink driving deaths happen when the driver is 18-20. At 21 it drops for some reason, that's where it came from. (Brain stops developing at 25 more or less)

Voting shouldn't be allowed until at least 30. And even then, a very large population of Americans shouldn't be allowed. They're too uneducated (not stupid, they just don't know shit about shit) to have any reasonable opinion on the issues.

We still have dipshits in this fucking country who believe in fairies in the sky that speak for a guy who's his own Dad and killed himself. Give me a fucking break.

These people are qualified to have any say whatsoever in our nation's direction? No wonder America's become a shitshow.

>>18131
>>18131

Those dipshits founded and established the USA. Were it not for them you'd be sucking the Queen's toes.

I agree however, that the voting age should be higher. Most kids have 0 interest in politics and simply vote for who looks the best. You can guarantee that if Morgan Freeman was standing for elections he would get the votes in.

Its not because of policy, but appearance and buzzwords that get people to vote for you. I would say that the only reason Trump is getting the support he is getting, is that a lot of Americans became so vastly disappointed with Obama, that they rejected mainstream.

The media manipulates, and they will ALWAYS get what they want.

>>18105
If anything I'd rather drinking alcohol be illegal entirely. All it does is produce brain dead assholes.

>>18147
We tried that once, it fucked things up even worse.

>>17912
Just turned 18 here. I agree, im not that smart politically, but most 16 year olds at my school either think their gay or their just to fucking dumb to realize anything right about "politician goes here".

Only people with some sort of civic or military service should be considered citizens and be given the right to vote.

>>17912
>23
>wouldn't even let people who are my age vote because they're retarded as fuck

That's exactly the point here; your government is realizing that the average American is about as dumb as a 16 year old so why not just let them vote.

>>18154
Your post was hard to read, is English not your first language?

>>18476
Stop being a dick.

I think only white men in their 50's should vote. And I'm Mexican.

Do we get 16 year olds in porn too? That would be awesome.

No, just no.
At 21 I feel like I simply don't really know enough about the political situation to really vote. At 16 I know way way less but felt like I figured it all out, that's not the kind of voter you want.

>>18128
Is there any evidence that's an age thing? Legit question btw, could also be that it drops of because after a few years you might've been drunk enoough to realize it's not a good idea to get drunk and drive.

To be honest, if we're going to prevent youth from voting we should ban seniors as well. What makes an 80 year old with dementia more qualified to decide the future of our country than a 16 year old?

>>17911
Hi, I'm the head of an organization that is currently lobbying for voting rights in the D.C. area. save personally identifying information, AMA.

>>19310
*youth voting rights, sorry. That means sixteen and seventeen year olds.

>>18025
>>18072
>>18027
Milton Friedman. You want them to read Milton Friedman